Katie thinks Rachel should keep quiet, Lala and Katie are officially donezo, and is TomTom getting a rebrand? Rachel and her publicist Juliette are back for another round discussing this week's hottest Bravo headlines.
This is Rachel Go's Rogue. Welcome back to another episode of Rachel Goes Rogue with your host Rachel Savannah Levis. There's so much going on in the Bravo sphere, and I feel like we have a lot to talk about, and so I'm being joined by Juliette today to get into part two.
Go to Katie.
Okay, Katie kind of coming at you again and then telling you to go away, like.
How do you how do you feel about her and her comments?
Oh?
So what did she say?
I think it was because you had made the comment that it's a bit surprising and disappointing that even though you know you made a mistake, friends make mistakes in the real world all the time, even horrible ones, and their true friends kind of still come in and check on them. And so you had made the comments you were disappointed that nobody has ever has reached out to you since like these supposed true friends have to date not reached out to you or checked in on you.
And then you know, so she was like.
No, if I was exactly saying that, because I kind of don't expect anyone to check in on me, and I don't have a desire to speak to anybody. But when it happened, I did expect for my so called friends to like at least hear me out and at least like want to know my perspective and how we got here. So that's what that comment was addressing. To be clear, it actually wasn't addressing Katie at all. So I'm not sure why she's feeling the need to address that specifically because we were never friends.
Well, I have a theory as to why she brings you into the conversation.
Do you remember when right when you came out at the facility and we were talking about how there was supposed to be an embargo on the cast talking about you at all or talking about anything, and the cast never stopped talking about you, And I told production that I basically dare them to keep you out of their mouth. I think that at this point, if people drag you, they drag you for clicks.
Yeah, look at Nick Fayel I study number one.
Because if you really want somebody to go away, if she wants you to go away and she wants you to disappear, right, that bringing you up. Yeah, but that's not what happens.
Well, this is the thing about what we're doing right now. This is the matrix that we're living in. When we are commenting on each other, we are driving up views for each other's platforms. So in knowing that every time I say Lala's name, every time I say Sheena's name, every time I say Katie's name, every time I say Nick Vielle's name, I know that I am driving traffic over to them, and they know by now every time that they say my name, they're rallying up their viewers, their fans, and they're driving traffic over to me. Now, what the people are saying in the comments is influenced by what we're talking about for each other. But it's this weird matrix that like, yeah, if you know the name of the game, you strategize by talking about each other, and that that right there is the strategy and the premise of a show like vander pump Roles.
Yeah, that's a very good point.
So as much as I'm like I want to get out of this matrix, I also recognize that clearly this is like some sort of game, and I have a bigger message that I'm sharing with other people, and the people that get something from listening to my podcast that is the most rewarding thing for me.
Yeah, no, I think that may perfect sense. Okay, okay, so a much lighter conversation.
Okay, Anne, So you know, she went to work for Ariana's assistant and then she ended up working at the sandwich shop, and now just recently she posted that her hours were cut and said something to the effect of, well, now my podcast better work because that's kind of where I'm making my living, right.
Same girl, same yeah, right.
So what do you think about that?
Do you think it's weird that Anne is continuing to work with arian and Katie to begin with?
Do I think that's weird? No? I shape that Anne found herself in the vander pump Zegeist and it's worked for her. And I think that she's been able to like come across as this very like charming character that is refreshing for a lot of viewers because you know, she's not a conniving girl. She's just kind of there and put in these awkward situations and is doing her best to make it by. So, you know, I don't really know her her work relationship with Arianna and with Katie. It is wild to me that she's started working for Arianna to begin with, after being years and years of Tom's personal assistant. So like that's a huge betrayal in itself, but like, you know, like it makes sense. It's a good opportunity that she took for herself. And I'm not sure her involvement with something about her. I actually didn't know that she was working for the Sandwich Shop at all, so I'm not sure, but I mean, we signed an NDA. It's a very funny podcast, and I think it also gives a very refreshing take on the entertainment industry from people who are personal assistants to those in the entertainment world like Vile and Tom Sandoval. So and let's take a shot for every time I say Nick Viel Yeah, okay, drinking game, except for take a shot of water, because you know that's not drinking well.
And they actually the criticism kind of went went towards Katie and Ariana, so the fans were really supporting Anne. But then, you know, something I was thinking about too is that I'm not sure if everybody out there has followed the Blake Lively stuff.
But you know, this could be real drama, or this could be drama to stir up viewership. For the podcast.
Right, celaborate on that. So you believe that the Blake Lively stuff is kind of like all to stir up drama to get viewership for that movie.
I think a large part of it has to do with that.
And you know, it's like in the rap game, the rappers will have their beefs and some of them are real and some of them are blown out of perspective because it makes headlines. And so Blake has and her director have gone, well, it's really Blake going after the director. The directors seemingly taking the higher road. But that I'm not knocking Blake Blake.
I don't know her.
I'm just saying the way that it's coming out in the press is that this drama, I'm not sure that it's sincere. The fans are upset because the original book was about domestic violence and then it's appearing a little.
Bit less about that.
So in this situation, I look at it and I was like, oh, you know, it could be that same sort of a scenario. You know, is she really making her living out of what she's making at the Sama Chop and if not, or if so, is she now using this drama to point to the podcast because the podcast has a real shot being success for her.
Well, you know, it's it's kind of all in the mix because she's also getting brand deals with partners and she wasn't she in the big Razor commercial to something like that. I think she was at the I'm not sure. I think she was involved in some of the advertisement gigs that Ariana was getting as well. So I think it's just mutually beneficial to create some sort of drama maybe around something about her and podcasts well.
And that kind of that leads into the next question too. So Ariana apparently seemed open to the idea of having something about her spin off. A do you think that's a possibility and B do you think that A that could be why Ann's working there?
Okay, if that's the case, vander pump Roles is definitely not coming back unless they're recasting with a whole new cast, which is you know what I heard through the grapevine. So yeah, it seems like everyone's probably pushing for a spin off or to like transfer over to another spin off show. Okay, the Valley. I think maybe that is the end goal here.
It would make sense, right if Lala and she go to the valley and Arianna gets her own show.
That all kind of is possibility.
And then arian and Katie would have their own thing, right, something.
About her and Anne could possibly go there.
Which leads us to the next headline about Lala saying that her and Katie's friendship is over, and that it says Lala Kent claims Katie Maloney's friendship ran its course after feud. So that's the headline, you know, and it's like, Okay, My thoughts on it is that, like, I don't know, there's no reason for Lala to be friends with Katie at this point if they're not filming a show together.
Yeah, that's a good point.
It's just like not beneficial. So I don't know why she needs to announce it and like feel like, yeah, that friendship ran its course and we're no longer friends. That's like in classic La La fashion. She probably announced it on an Amazon Live.
Yeah, she's very good at the shock jock and grabbing the headlines, So kudos to her for that.
I think she's pretty good at that. Actually, what do you think of that?
I think a lot of it right now because just the way that the cycles work with Bravo is that, you know, it's kind of quiet, and then everybody jumps in the publicity, So so yeah, things are stirring, right, So if that's kind of helping set the stage for letting people know that they're moving on the friendships have changed, it makes sense why they're going to the valley because this friendship's no longer and this friendship annow, you know, I'm having baby number two. So I think it's kind of framing. I think she's framing for announcements yet to come. So yes, it makes sense that that relationship has probably run its course.
Yeah, she said. There's quote here she says, there's not a lot to talk about anymore, and we're just in different stages in life.
She concluded.
So, no matter why we fell off, I don't really give a s What I do know is the time we had together I really enjoyed and I wish them all the best. Lala and Katie were in a good place when filming kicked off on season eleven, or so fans thought blah blah blah blah blah. So you know, I don't know if this is just like a headline making something out of nothing.
I think it's framing. I think it's setting up for what's next. Yeah okay, so what's next? Do you think?
So if they're framing it, Lala's basically saying, oh, see this, we don't have this friendship anymore.
There's not a lot left.
I'm going over to the valley like so I think she's setting it up for the viewers that that move it's not just a one time filming scenario, like they're moving over there. And then it also sets it up if indeed there is a show that's just Ariana and Katie's, you know, the story becomes the friendships couldn't be repaired.
We've all outgrown.
Band, the punt rules, we're moving on to the next career stage of our life. So I feel like they're setting up for the what's next.
For sure, and you know that NBC and Bravo has the budget for that. They're like, yeah, let's all the spinoffs. Yeah without a doubt.
Yeah, there formerly seems to work.
Oh okay, I'm just getting news now that this was from Lala's podcast. So Lala deliberately said this and announced it on her podcast.
I guess, yeah, but that's still to me, is framing right, like she's still telling the fans this, we're moving on to this next stage and giving them more info as to why what comes.
Next makes sense.
Yeah, okay, okay, so let's go on.
I think this is our last headline shure Peter and Lisa Vander Pump. So, Peter was in the headlines actually a couple of times saying that they were rebranding Tom Tom is Pump. And then Lisa came out and actually set the record straight that I believe she said that in the back they made that call Pump Gardens and that he's absolutely wrong and he should stick to what he knows. Wait, Lisa said this to Peter, Well, she said it to the press addressing Peter.
Oh, that Peter's wrong and he should stick to what he knows. Yeah, geez, it's hard should we.
Get First of all, do you know anything? Do you have any insider info there?
All I know is what we saw us where Lisa decided one day to put the pump lettering Pump over Tom Tom, and they had Tom Sandoval walk in and see it for the first time and get his reaction. That was also the scene where Lisa told Tom that I had a phone call with her.
Why do you think Peter would say that publicly? I mean, Peter came out twice.
Saying, you know that there was this rebrand from Tom Tom to Pump. He's a real he's a real manager at sir, He's a real employee of Lisas.
So why is he risking his job?
Is he risking his job? Why would he come out and say something if he didn't know it? Why was he so sure and confident enough to do it? But yet she came out very strongly slamming that down.
So would you know, do you think that Why do you think he's doing that? Because he's got a lot to lose, He's got something at risk here.
I don't think he would like speak publicly about something unless he had inside intel, And he's not the type of person to just like throw stuff out there just for a headline like this is Peter that we're talking about. He's been, I'm sorry to say it, like a background character in all the years that Fander Pump Rules has been filming because he's he's not about the drama. So I I think when Peter has something to say, maybe listen the fact that Lisa is shutting it down immediately. This isn't the first time that Lisa has done that. And I had things at risk and I chose to speak out, and she's flied about certain situations with me. So you know, I don't see Lisa as an honest figure at all. I've caught her and lies, and so I'm curious to know what Peter has to say.
And once again, it can also be framing here she is, she's launching new restaurants and new shows, and she doesn't want the bad publicity on the existing so that could be why she shedding.
So do you think, yeah, so Peter's not working with Lisa in these headlines?
No, well, we don't think so.
I mean, you know, go another level and sure again, you know you feed this and I'll feed this and your job is safe.
But I don't think so. I think that makes us extra paranoid. But I feel like, I mean, it's possible, for.
Sure, but yeah, because why would he be so confident to just say something like that too, But unless he knows.
So basically he's saying like Tom Tom is being rebranded as Pump Correct, which you know, I haven't been to Tom Tom. But I can't phone a friend, right now who works at Tom Tom to your lifeline phone, a friend, a friend, you can get him on the phone right now, I.
Swear, yeah, But I mean, but that's right.
There is the point is if it's happening and he and there's indications and he goes out there and says it, and then she shuts it down and then sort of makes fun of him for saying it, right, so not meanly, but like you know Lisa.
Well yeah, I mean Lisa, she wants to come across a certain way and she doesn't want the perspective that she is rebranding Tom Tom as Pump. I guess like that's not the vibe that she wants.
Yeah, because is that a failure?
Well, yeah, Tom Tom isn't a failure pump. I mean they had to close down Pump and there's a whole slew of drama with that whole closure and saying that it was Lisa said that it was like a raise in the rent and then the landowner said no, it wasn't. But you know, like with the whole Tom Tom name, I think that there is some risk to that and you know, like it's not the best look right now because it's controversial and people don't want to support Tom and Tom, so it would make sense why she would kind of put the Pump letters up and be like, Oh, it's it's Tom Tom Impump. But need I remind you guys, the Tom's only owned five percent of that restaurant.
So do you think that a VPR spinoff where they're recasting the whole show?
Does that not jeopardize his job if it's at Sir, No, it doesn't.
Oh you know, they keep hying.
I would think that. Well, actually, they asked Peter to come back and said it would be for zero pay basically, and so he turned down the offer. So I don't know. I don't know if there's like bridges burned there already where he wouldn't film again. But I think that it's only fair to compensate people that are working for you. And Peter has been a staple character, even though he's not the most dramatic, he is like a well known character that people go to Sir to go meet because he's the only one that actually works at Sir.
Still, then if they're recasting, isn't it make it smarter to put a twenty something year old manager there too?
Like you know what I mean like, either he's the.
Wisdom that usher's in the new talent, right, or they get the younger guy that fits into the vibe and has an opportunity to mess up because that makes good TV too.
Well. I mean, if that's the case, then they're casting for a new manager because I'm pretty sure the two managers that work at Sir are Diana and Peter. Okay, So I don't know how that's going to work.
All right, Well, I guess we're gonna stay tuned and see what happens, because that one's pretty interesting.
I mean, unless they're like recasting this show for the Pump and Tom Tom restaurant and not Sir.
Good point, Well, that's just it.
They could use the location, or it could be I think the idea is more about the people, right, and finding a good group of young people that can date and drink and have drama and maybe go back.
And forth between the restaurants.
Who knows, right, because it's a vehicle to publicize the restaurants. But it's about the people's lives and relationships. So it could be any of those things. But it'll be very interesting to see because I think, you know, from the business standpoint bar Nune, Lisa uses the television as a promotional tool for her restaurants, right, so for him to go out and say something is quite brave, right against his boss. And then on the other hand, she doesn't want bad publicity or bad looks because she's opening new restaurants and putting on new shows.
So I think we're gonna have to wait and see you on this one.
Yeah. But then also like, no publicity is bad publicity when you're talking about somebody like Lisa Vanderpump. So I don't think she could be.
That mad at Peter No, And she didn't, like I said, in Eliza way, she wasn't angry when she slammed it down. She's like, uh right, thanks, thanks for the good idea, right, you know the way she does right, Yeah, yeah, all right, cool. Well, I think we covered a lot and that was very interesting. Let's see what next week brings. Maybe they'll be a little quite loll no headlines, let's hope.
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