Rachel's hitting on all of this week's hottest topics in the Bravoverse with her publicist Juliette.
This is Rachel gos Rogue. Welcome back to a juicy episode of Rachel Goes Rogue. This is your host, Rachel Savannah Levis, and today we are talking about the headlines that have been popping up very consistently this past week or two. I have my producer Juliet here, who has background in publicity. All right, Julia, let's get into these headlines.
Yeah, there were just a few this week, weren't there. This is busy, okay, past members potentially filming other shows. What do you think about that?
What do I think about that? I mean, what else are they going to do?
Right?
Yeah? Good point.
I mean vander Pump Rules isn't predicted to come back anytime soon, so it only makes sense that Schwartz is making a cameo on season nine of Summer House and Sina and Lala are going over to the Valley. So yeah, it makes sense.
So do your best guess right now?
Do you think VPR is coming back and in the same format or differently? If it's coming back at all.
I heard that they are recasting the whole cast of Vander Pump Rules, So if it does come back, it's going to come back with all new characters and cast members.
That's just what I heard.
So interesting, Okay.
And then I think from my perspective from PR, I think about it like VPR had great numbers still, so I think for Bravo, how do they not Now they do have new slates of shows, so it'll depend on, you know, their overall budget and stuff. But just from a simplicity point, the numbers were good, so why wouldn't they bring them back? And then to your other point, I think what people have to remember is it's a network and it's their talent, and so if they don't have them on that show, some of them might have contracts that they.
Still need to fulfill. I don't know.
But even still, these people have been there for a long time, so it makes more sense if they bring if they're making the network money, and because they're likable, they're going to put them under the shows.
Yeah, and every year with vander pump Rules, we never knew if there was going to be another season or not until right before filming got started, Like right before production got started. We would get a call and you know, give them the download of what's happening in our lives and we wouldn't know until that happened. So the fact that they've announced that they postponed production so far and that they don't see a day in time of picking up again, it seems like it's not likely that we're going to see vander Pump Rules the same as it's been.
Yeah, that makes sense.
And then what about some of your Ormer castmates saying they would never go on the valley, and then now they're filming the valley.
What do you say to.
Say it's wild that they said that they would never go on the valley. Of course, of course they're going to go to the valley. I saw this happening from a mile away, Like as soon as they announced the valley, I was like, oh, I can see Shina going over there, and I can see Lala going over there. And I think the reason why it makes sense is because Sheen and Laala have babies and they're in a different stage in their life. They're practically in their forties now, which is nothing wrong. It's just, you know, Vanderpump Rules is set based around these people who are trying to make it in the industry, and they're taking up jobs to make it by in order to like get their name out in this entertainment world. And I think that is now the issue where I think vander Pump Rules wants to keep its authenticity with that type of portrayal in the characters, and it's just not that anymore. Everyone on the show has evolved in some sort of way, you know, maybe not evolutionary involvement for the best, but nonetheless, like it's not vander Pump Rules is not really the best platform for these characters that we've seen throughout the years, or that you guys have seen throughout the.
Years, those same drama New neighborhood.
Yeah, it seems like it okay.
And Jax was very vocal and told you to stay away from the valley when you announced you were leaving the show. Do you think he's he said that because he's protective of the show. Do you think he was just riding the let's be angry at Rachel bandwagon?
What do you think?
I would think he was probably riding the bandwagon let's all be mad at Rachel, I would guess.
You know, firstly, Jax came at you and told you to stay away from the valley. Now some of the girls have filmed La La and Sheena and he's kind of going back at them and telling them to stay away from the Valley.
Why do you think is he being protective over it or what do you think it is?
I don't know what makes him think that he has the authority just to determine who makes the cast of the Valley and who doesn't. So I don't know if he's just trying to like throw his two cents into the universe and like dictate who gets the spot, or just make it known that, like if you come on the Valley, you're not welcome here and he might make your life a living hell. Who knows.
Yeah, I'm not sure his strategy there.
Okay, And did you watch a last season? Did you watch The Valley last season? I?
Did? Yeah?
And will you watch again this season?
Not if I don't need to?
Okay.
So, Also, in addition to Sina and La La making a move Shorts, I guess was rumored to or did Summer House? Do you think that's a good fit or what do you think about that one?
Yeah? Didn't he do winter House?
Was it Summerhouse or Winterhouse that Tom Sandoval and Tom Schartz were both promised to go, but then when scandival hit they took it away from Tom Sandival.
So is that a thing do they like?
If you're good on VPR, do you get sort of promised the spot to go to Summer or Winterhouse?
Is that how that works?
It was Winterhouse?
So yeah, Shorts went on Winter House and they promised a spot to both to Sandoval and Tom Shortz, but when scandival hit, they took that away from Tom Sandoval.
Got it okay?
Now, so Shorts going on Summer House, is that a good fit or what do.
You think about him going on it?
I guess again, yeah, I think the popular cast members often do you get an opportunity or it seems like they've been giving them opportunities to do these other spinoff shows or shows.
That are kind of like related with Vander Pump.
Got it okay? All right?
Next, Stossi is back joining vander Pump Villa and lands her own show.
Nice you think about that?
So you've said before that she gave you the advice that bad behavior is rewarded on reality TV.
Do you think this is an example of that?
I mean, first of all, I think her joining vander Pump Villa is going to get ratings up for Vander Pump Villa. And I know a lot of fans have been asking for Stossy to come back, and I think that this is a smart move on her part to entice the fans by joining vander Pump Villa. Not only that, but then start her own show. It says her first project is developing a comedic half hour docuseriies called Stossy says, So, I'm not quite sure what that is, but if she is starting her own show, in her own spinoff, then it is kind of giving her more of a creative position of power, way more than she would get by rejoining the cast of vander Pump Rules. She's consistently said that she's not interested in coming back to join vander Pump Rules. And she told this to Jeff Lewis. She was asked to join the cast of The Valley Right, and she said, every single fiber in my being said not to film that show. When I heard that, I was like, good for her, you know, like she's taken this time away from this reality TV world, and she's been very transparent about how reality television stunts your emotional intelligence. So I was like for Stossy, like she sees the matrix and she's choosing to step out of it.
But now I think she just sees this as an opportunity.
To kind of take back her power a little bit in a way where she gets to create her own show.
Yeah, well, everything in Hollywood is you give to get right. So in this situation, it looks like she did or probably agreed to do vander pump Villa in order to get her own show right, So she kind of went into a place maybe she didn't want to go, but could tolerate because she knew she'd bring them ratings and then she gets her show.
Or yeah, it could be a means to an end as well for her publicity whise.
Just as her brand as a whole.
So now when you look at everything and you say, Okay, they brought back Jacks, they brought back Kristen, and now they're bringing back Stossin no matter what dramas proceeded, do you think they should have all been brought back or you know, this sort of seems like there's a.
You're fired, but come back. I don't know what do you think?
Yeah?
I think everyone deserves a second chance, And it seems like maybe like people have this period of public shaming and then when the next scandal breaks, people forget.
And then you're freed from the chains.
It seems like like it was pretty quick after a scandalval hit that Jacks had his whole redemption and starting his own bar, and then the Valley.
Yeah, it's it's very very interesting, for a lack of a better word.
I will say too, when you think about your situation, no matter how dramatic it all was, and pretending we didn't know all these things that happened thereafter, production certainly didn't skip a beat in coming back to you. So you know, I look at that from a standpoint of again, it's television, and they're not mad at anybody whoever's.
Bringing in ratings, whoever's bringing money, drama. It's drama.
It's television, and so you know, I look at all of that and I think it's all means to the end.
Everybody wins.
The network wins because they get great content and clicks, and the individual wins because they get a paycheck and a platform to do with it what they want. Tom's girlfriend has come at you for speaking about it.
She came at you kind of hard. How do you feel about that?
So, Victoria says, the girl leaves vpr ruins people's lives, but then lives and breathes vander Pump Rules after still continues to try and ruin people's lives. If you were genuine, you would reach out on a personal level, but instead you post it for attention and relevance. Also, this is so obvious you had your publicist reach out to TMZ for a pity party and attention.
Gross, where do you want to start.
Let's break it down line by line, shall we? Okay, let's go for it since we're talking about it. So this is basically in response to my post to Jack's Taylor wishing him the best in his recovery. So she says, the girl leads vander Pump Rules, ruins people's lives, but then lives and breathes vander Pump Rules after still continues to try to ruin people's lives. I would say to that, maybe look at who you're dating right now, and if it's quote unquote ruining people's lives, then there's two in that to make that a reality, and you're dating the other person. So I don't know why you're focusing on me and I'm not continuing to try to ruin people's lives. I really don't know how I have the power to ruin other people's lives, especially now.
And you reach out to Jack's was sincere.
Yeah, and she's saying I should have reached out to him on a personal level. I don't have a way to do that. I don't have his phone number. He has me blocked on Instagram, So unless I wanted to buy a cameo from him and tell him through a cameo message, there was no way for me to reach out to Jack's on a personal level. And she's saying, I post it for attention and relevance. Well, the truth of the matter is, I don't know how else to say this without coming across a certain way. But like, I guess I am relevant, honestly, Like, I don't understand how Victoria is telling me that I'm putting this out here to be relevant.
Jack's checked himself into a mental health.
Facility, and so did I, So, like, I don't know who else is more qualified to talk about this specific topic.
Yeah, that's very true.
And you were on the show and your perspective is what you know. I'm sorry, but hers isn't. I mean, maybe she's trying to get on the show, but she wasn't on the show, so not sure hers is relevant.
I mean, I'm not seeking relevance by any means. I made a comment. I shared my perspective, and ultimately it is well wishes to Jack's and his recovery. So the people trying to spin it and say that I'm doing something wrong in this specific situation, I don't know what to say to those people.
It's just not that's not the case.
But it's also very ironic because it's the same sort of drum we've had to keep beating is somebody says something and brings you in, you defend yourself, and then they say you're your you can't let go of under rules that you're.
Trying to hang into, right, It's that cast it.
Well, yeah, in all fairness, like vander Pump Rules is non it's not airing anymore. So like, yeah, I do understand the perspective that me talking about vander Pump Rules now is spending my time and energy on this subject. But I think maybe to remind people that, like there are reporters out there, like quote unquote reporters like the nick Vials of the world and the up and atoms of the world reporting on this stuff weekly, saying their opinions and their two cents and this quote unquote factual evidence, and need I remind you, like I am one degree removed from the situation, and therefore I feel like my insight and my perspective has some relevance. And so if you're interested in knowing what that is, then that's that's the purpose of me talking about it now.
And I don't remember did you did you tell me to call TMZ?
Did TMC even report on this? I don't remember that.
Did you call TMC?
Did you absolutely did it? I read it like everybody else. We aren't We don't need to drum up publicity on this stuff.
We are not.
So yeah, And that's the thing too, Like with that, with the statement that I put out, it was very much like matter of fact. It's like kind of stating obvious and reminding people of the situation of what happened, and not wishing ill will on anyone, right, I know.
So let's just talk about the fact that.
The main reason that you're you're talking about this particular thing at all is because.
You lived it. You were the first in I think most of reality television.
To go through what you went through, you set a precedent for what Jacks is going through right now and anybody here afterwards. And let's also remind people the time we reacted to somebody leaking the news, and that's why we told them where they were. His people came out and they are talking about where.
He is, and I feel like, what do you mean believe?
So when you when you went into the facility, our plan was to not let anybody know, and my plan in particular was to give you time to get into treatment and heal. The only reason that we put out a statement saying where you were is because somebody from the meadows leaked it, and then the whole cast went into the fact that you're at a spot right and took it lightly and made it all a pr thing and minimized it. So we had to come out and put out a statement. Now fast forward to hear where his reps actually put out.
The statement he was in treatment for no other reason, right.
And and I'm not wishing ill on him, But then everybody jumping on why are you talking about it? Your entire platform This plan is so that you can talk about what you went through. What you've learned from it mental health, how to avoid the caveats. Your whole platform is built on this experience because you were the one of the first ones that actually went into a mental health facility, and you were in there for three months. So how does it make you feel to have all these people still you know, here we are a year later, and they're telling you you don't have a right to speak on it and double standard.
Let's praise Jacks for taking care of his business.
My whole platform right now is speaking from my experience, and my mission is to keep this from happening. Like the mental health aspect in the reality TV world is really what I've been talking about for the past I don't know, six months, And so when I am speaking about the situation of Jack's checking himself into a mental health facility, it's coming from a place of genuine concern and I do have a unique perspective, and frankly, no one else is more qualified to talk about this topic than I am. I don't know why people would think that I wouldn't talk about this. Like when I heard the news, I got so fired up, Like I was like, Okay, when are we podcasting next to you guys, because this is important, and if you guys tuned into that podcast like that, I feel like that was the most firing and passionate I've ever recorded. It felt really good and it felt like I had a lot to say because this is what I've been talking about this whole time.
Totally, I agree with that.
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