Poet, musician and cultural visionary Saul Williams joins Yorta Yorta artist, writer and activist Neil Morris for a conversation that traces the colonial logics hidden in plain sight. From Wall Street to Boundary Street, they unpack how empire is built through naming, branding, borders and memory, and how these structures continue to shape the worlds we inherit.

Together, they explore racial capitalism, Indigenous sovereignty, solidarity across occupied lands, and the role of art and language in imagining futures beyond colonialism. Spanning Turtle Island and so-called Australia, this is a conversation about refusing inherited narratives and creating new ways of seeing, speaking and belonging.

This episode was produced and hosted by Wiradjuri baddie, Ethan Lyons for Race Matters on FBi Radio.

Poet, musician and cultural visionary&nbsp;Saul Williams&nbsp;joins Yorta Yorta artist, writer and activist&nbsp;Neil Morris&nbsp;for a conversation that traces the colonial logics hidden in plain sight. From Wall Street to Boundary Street, they unpack how empire is built through naming, branding, borders and memory, and how these structures continue to shape the worlds we inherit.
Together, they explore racial capitalism, Indigenous sovereignty, solidarity across occupied lands, and the role of art and language in imagining futures beyond colonialism. Spanning Turtle Island and so-called Australia, this is a conversation about refusing inherited narratives and creating new ways of seeing, speaking and belonging.
This episode was produced and hosted by Wiradjuri baddie, Ethan Lyons for&nbsp;Race Matters&nbsp;on FBi Radio.

Race Matters is an anti-racist show that explores the values and complexities of race, culture and identity. In-depth interviews and unique story telling and spanning arts, music, politics, global and local events, plus experimental audio and community takeovers.

Listen back to all our episodes on fbi.radio including radio exclusives, and stay up to date on our instagram 

Listen to our Solidarity Syndicate series - sharing across airwaves and borders and our Liquid Homelands series - an experimental, queer audio offering

We honor all hosts, producers, storytellers that have made this work possible as well as the long tradition of storytelling, resistance and resilience that has taken place on Gadigal Country, where fbi.radio broadcasts out of.  

Our logo design by Jessica Mulet, our theme songs was composed by Mateo Baskaran 

Race Matters is made possible thanks to the Community Broadcasting Foundation

Race Matters is an anti-racist&nbsp;show that explores the values and complexities of race, culture and identity. In-depth interviews and unique story telling and spanning arts, music, politics, global and local events, plus experimental audio and community takeovers.
Listen back to <a href="https://www.fbi.radio/programs/race-matters">all our episodes on fbi.radio</a> including radio exclusives, and stay up to date on our&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/race_matters/">instagram</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://soundcloud.com/fbiradiosydney/sets/race-matters-sol-dar-ty-synd">Listen to our Solidarity Syndicate series</a> - sharing across airwaves and borders and our&nbsp;<a href="https://soundcloud.com/fbiradiosydney/sets/racematters_liquid-homelands">Liquid Homelands</a> series - an experimental, queer audio offering
We honor all hosts, producers, storytellers that have made this work possible as well as the long tradition of storytelling, resistance and resilience that has taken place on Gadigal Country, where fbi.radio broadcasts out of.&nbsp;&nbsp;
Our logo design by Jessica Mulet, our theme songs was composed by Mateo Baskaran&nbsp;
Race Matters is made possible thanks to the&nbsp;<a href="https://cbf.org.au/">Community Broadcasting Foundation</a>

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Beyond representation. Anti-racist radio with in-depth interviews and unique story telling spanning arts, music, global politics, local events + more