Trevor Jackson

Published Aug 10, 2022, 10:00 AM

On this week's episode of R&B Money, Tank and J Valentine are visited by actor/artist Trevor Jackson. Trevor will reminisce on his journey as a young child who was fascinated by tap dancing which led him into staring roles on Broadway at just eight years old. Fast forward, Trevor is one of the stars of Grown-ish, has a budding music career and is putting people to shame with his hoop game. Listen and Enjoy!  

 

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Money. Well, we are the authority and ladies and gentlemen, what's going on? I am take and we are the Army Money Podcast, the authorities on all things R and B in the building. Yeah, I'm I'm getting passionate. You know what I'm saying because because sometimes we have family members in the building. You know what I'm saying. You know the guys who who we've watched go from boys to men, saying you shout out to those guys. We've watched them go from boys to men and they've done it with class, they've done it with excellence, and they've been successful at this thing. Ladies and gentleman in the building. A little bro who's not tallering us, hey honed to be here for all seriousness legends. Man, I've looked at you guys like basically my whole life and then being able to work with you guys, like you said, since I was very young and hopefully we can do it again. How that I'm older, But you guys man paved the way many ways, brother, many people, So thank you for having got jury and a kind of ship. No, no, he had no jury. Man lash out of Indiana, like, man, it's crazy, that's what you gotta respect about what Trevor's doing right. Okay, Trevor is doing right? Is I care? But I don't care. But I don't, But I'm gonna go surf. I'm probably surf after this, I don't know. Maybe a little parkore on your fake grass, I don't know, shoot a couple of jumpers on into the pool, backflip into the pool. He's prepared, He's prepared for all things. But then he says, don't get ship twisted. I got ice, I got it, I got it on me. It's very new, it's very new. I just funny thing is I said I would never do it, and then I was like, man, explain that. So this I got this first. This is just a little link to get cuping, a little link. I didn't want it to hang too low because I like to be shirtless. So anyways, you right, you under saying yeah, no, so I wanted that, and then born artists my company. This is like the imblements of sharks. Sharks will die if they stopped moving forward, stop swimming, to literally die. And I feel like that's why I'm with music when it comes to entertainments. Yeah, he's got crocks on. Hey, man because I don't care really but still kind of and he's bodying a paintbrush meaning arts and all things art like we want to suck the art name up in a good way. Wow. So so, Trevor, you're one of those You're one of those rare human beings, um who can do anything. Like everything that I've mean you do or whatever task you've taken on high level, high level, you done it and done it well. Well, we looked at what we love to do on Army Money podcast is we like to start at the beginning, even though we need the people need to understanding back to Indiana. We want on the journey. We want to we want to know the first day you said as somebody said, he got it, and then we want to go from there and get to the shark with crocs on because I didn't always have always You're a first to put crocks on the shark, you know. And if Disney cos your ship, if you niggas make a shark feet, if y'all come out with a shark feet, I know sharks, Dad, I just want to wear shark feet. Were we together? It? Okay? So the beginning. I started tap as when I was three years old, I remember Gregory Hunt alright, alright, see the young man. No, it's history to tap dancing. At three three years old, I remember I was my mom. This is what she claims. She says that I was flipping around and she didn't want to hear myself. She took me to a gymnastics class and I walked by the room and think it was happening. I was like, whoo, so I want to do that. And then I just remember, like anything I want to do. I'm like just trying to study and like who's great? And I just remember seeing Gregory Hinds. And it wasn't just that he was happening. He was just like when he was on screen, everybody else was like, who is that? Why is he The way he walked away, he spoke um, and he's sang and whatever. I saw her. Forget what the movie was, but he was singing in it, he was tapping in it, and you know he was on TV s he was acting. So I was like, I want to do that. Whatever all of these things are I want to have. I want to do all that. That's kind of where it started. I started, like, uh, competing in different places and stuff. And then I remember I went to some workshop in New York and some guy, his name is Lane Napper. He worked for Nickelodeon at the time, and he was like, yo, we know he could dance, but he's got something like just put him into up else, make him do something else. Did a local Broadway show called even Boards Christmas Show, and then from that I did Lion King the Broadway show for like three years, and that that changed my whole life. I told when you when you was eight years old eight to eleven, Simba, I was Smber. Yeah, I was the whole first hour of the show and um at eight at eight, yeah, And I remember I can remember at that time, I never thought about being on. I mean, I was just like, I'm just having a blast from a backflips, I'm singing. Didn't even think about what it was doing. He didn't think about it as work either, No, not at all, not at all. And I remember there was a day and I don't remember what day, but some day I wasn't performing, and I remember just you can only really see the first row when it's like that, Yeah, the life. Yeah, I don't know. I've never done broad Away, you know, No, I don't you know, you know, you can only really see and I only see everything's blacked out in the SUPERCI perform multiple concerts in the right right. Okay, cool? So Mr burns from me. That's so. Yeah. They're in the front row and I just remember them being like like that, and I was just like, why are they smiling? And I looked on stage. I was like, I'm only one up here. So I was like, oh wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait, completely by yourself. Yeah. Yeah, there's like numbers where I'm just singing it's just me, and I'm like, they're all smiling like happy, And I was like, is that because I'm it's me? I was like, all right, that's what I want for life. If I can do that, and it doesn't have to be just on stage. Is anyway that I can like affect someone's day, make them happier. It's done something, you know what I'm saying. So after that, I told him, I mean, I was like, this is it. I'm I can't go back school. I mean, I gotta I gotta perform. I've gotta dropped out of eight. Yeah, I wish bro The wars that me and my mom had about he dropped out of eight never looked back, never never looked back. Um. Yeah, So then that people were like, okay, so we should go to New York. L A. I'm an l A guy. No respected it in New York. I love New York. I love people from New York. New York as the place is just not my I don't think I would thrive there. So we have a thing when when when you put out the disclaimer of no disrespects, no disrespect, I love New York. Uh yeah, A was just the place that you wanted to be. Yeah, I want to be I like ocean, you know, I like water, and I like I like open you know. Aaron moved out here in two thousand and eight and been shipping away man since then. That's from fifteen years up in the Iron. So but during that time, right from Lion King, I remember when your label Reps came to that's the thing, right, like, no, that that was the thing because people don't understand the music business. You have to have certain bullet points for people to even be interested, right because from the outside, people just like, oh well, if I gotta check you work with me. You know a lot of people gotta check a lot of people, you know what I mean, Like, and you get to a point in a business where you've had enough success where you can pick and choose who you want to work with if it makes sense for you, right, Because one, everybody can't work with kids, and you were a kid, you know what I'm saying, Like you still hyper, but you was even more hyper then, right, Like, so it's like all of those factors. That's why people like Jermaine dupri have the utmost respect for Jermaine Dupris for being able to work with multiple kid acts. That's tough, right, because you gotta write the right record too, right, It can't beat or to that. We've experienced that with you, right, So, and that's that's what that's what I'm getting to. Like, I remember having a conversation and then seeing you in the lobby and of course every as soon as the first thing they do all kids acts. If you can sing, it's a it's a young boy, not even just sing, but it's Michael Jackson. Everybody's Michael jack You're gonna either sing Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder. So listen, if you guys are watching this, If you sing my Chael Jackson and Stevie Wonder from me I'm kicking you out the studio. Now, I'm putting this this their a legends, their legends. They are who they are, right I am. I think it was Who's loving you might have been it was, but that was years ago. But that break out into that I'm kicking you your mom or your uncle and your daddy out the studio. It's one more song to added to that though, too. Which one is that the kid Alicia Ki? Yes, yes, something. I was like, okay, because they find songs that the kids can push. I've heard at least not kids singing at that point. You're on Atlantic Records. Yeah, okay, Wait, before that, I met with everyone, and you know, everyone says what they say, awesome, cool, Atlantic said the best stuff. So I went with them. Um and yeah, I was fifteen years old. That was crazy, crazy experience, very green at the time, you know, but it's very dope. Um yeah, and then we met right, yeah, yes, what the heck? That was ten years ago. That's at uh yes and yeah yeah yeah dude, And I still remember some of the stuff we did, some craziness. We did some and still needs to come out. I still sing hold up. And we wanted to put you on a level because you had the tools right and and there of course, he said, there has to be a fine balance between you being a kid, you know what I'm saying, and you being an adult and what you can um actually conveyable. That's you know what vocally, no, no, no, we met you at fifteen at UM the studio hard that that. Oh, but but what's the one that I can't think of it, but that's we got you maybe seven maybe around seventeen eighteen, which we felt like was a perfect time because it was like the coming of age thing. Obviously, we spoke about that off camera, like him, you know, us doing a Mario when he's like eighteen, you know what I mean. Like we had already worked with Chris Brown, different artists that we had worked with that were like young men, right, fifteen young boy, seventeen eighteen young man. And for us, we were like, oh, this is the pocket, this is where we're going to. We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna give him that ship, you know what I mean, because because you know, you become very aggressive eighteen or will just say eighteen for the for the sake of what I'm gonna say. After that, at the age of eighteen, you were, you know, young lion. Sure man, they know. I remember who was coming by the studio. Yeah, those are those are amazing times for real, honestly, And I remember you guys, uh just like pouring in man, and then you'd be like, Yo're like going there, I'm gonna come back, have the vocals done, and I want him to sound like this was to sound. And I was like, because you at the time, you know, you were still doing a lot of stuff yourself, like you were vocal producing yourself, and so we were very impressed that at seventeen eighteen years old, you were like really tapped into the quality. Yeah, make sure that it's good, man, it's all you have left. I feel like, you know, I'm going like, yo, this record it is um. But it was the fight right like you were like explained that because I mean, obviously we have our side of how we saw it from the outside looking in, but explained being seventeen eighteen years old, coming of age, young man, wanting to get your ship off at that point, you want to get your ship off, Yeah, and it's hard right now, you're trying to tell a label that you've been signed to since you were fifteen that no, no, I'm grown now about to be grown? Right? Um. I think it was you know what, To be honest with you, I think it was partly me. I don't think I understood the beauty of honesty until I got a little older, because even at eighteen, I felt like I was still under I feel like I was still under the mask of like we were just talking about Michael, and I was always like, Michael wouldn't say that, or no, I was like trying to hold myself to pretty sure you said that to us. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I did. They're like, we can say that. I was like, Michael, Michael wouldn't say that. Whoever even met Michael. You met Michael, You're Michael. Look look at it. Look at Michael. Oh, Michael beat up bubbles for him. Hey man, we do a drug. I'm sorry I didn't know that. Wow, But you never told me that everything. Um, I thought you were told me that we're not gonna but no, that was mine. That's where I was at that time, like, oh I got to do this, I do this right. Um. So I think I was partably part of the problem for that too. Um. And like I said, it wasn't til later that I was like, oh man, I just gotta everything feels better when it's real, or at least it's something that you want, you know, um, because people can tell you to do a certain thing and you can do it, but it won't be as good as if you're like, hey, I love that thing and don't want to do it, like yeah, it's it's it's I mean, we can pitch it to pitch it all day, right right, but I think we saw something in you and about you that you knew, probably probably scared of it, probably were like I mean. And then add add to the fact that you know, Mom's is heavily in the so good, so good a spot. Moms was heavily in the building. Yeah you always yeah, right right right in the studio in the Bible right for she's like now traveling, now come on, even now, I'll be playing to it. I'm like, let me let me cook. I understand, I understand it. And then you know, trying to you know, manage it from an image standpoint in terms of where you and what you think, and it's all about and that's what I'm saying like these image things are only from people that have been have existed already, and if you're trying to do something to or create something, you realize that, hey, this path hasn't been made yet, you know, the footprints in the same haven't been made. So maybe I can, you know, but it takes time, you know. I used to have a kind of like a spirit of like, oh I wish, but now I'm just like, everything is purpose, So everything is happening at the time is supposed to happen. It makes sense now, So you you, you're acting was developed in a space that I think, I think most actors should you know, should dabble in at least once or twice. And that's that theater stage, because that theater stage is unforgiving. Yeah, no it is. I just had to go. I just brought away at this beginning of this year the top dance kid. And that was the hardest thing I've ever done in my whole life's ever learned the whole show in eleven days. And then how did how many shows every week? I did well, only it was only like a week long run, but it was every day every day for sure, and Saturday Sunday. Yeah, and you can't can't party, you can't hang out, can't do anything. It's like, if I want my voice to sound good tomorrow, I've got to not talking to anything. So I hated it. I hate not to be be developed in this space that I think every actor needs. You need that. Okay, I only have one takes. I better be on my that now groomed you for the music part. I think that's the passion and that's you know, that's the love and I think that that was that's probably the harder part for you to figure out for sure, for sure. And then you move into yeah TV and it goes crazy, Yeah, for sure. So how would how did you make that transition? Like what was the call? Because you at this point you were music music and then you have to say, Okay, how'm gonna pay for my videos? Let me let me put this you know what. That's a great way to gonna pay for music, real real music business. Yeah, because when you want to do what you want to do, you gotta pay for it. You gotta pay for it. And that's the thing, like you're saying, because if somebody like we're talking to people can pitch all day and if I don't bite, and I'm like, hey, that's not the greatest idea. Okay, we're gonna go do what you want to do, but we're not gonna We're not gonna give you bread for it, and we're not gonna push it, and we're not gonna market it. But sure, if you want to be creatively free, you go do that. And to do that and to have the ship I like because I watched it, and I'm the most critical person on the planet. I watched my own ship like that. So I'm like, I gotta make sure that it it's fire. I gotta get the hundred camera, I gotta rent it, I gotta get this guy, I gotta get the great lighting team. I gotta get the people coming in, and it's gotta look good, and I gotta have a good story. I've gotta I don't want my video to look like every video I've got, you know, and to do that you have to have money. And so obviously I love acting, and that's I'm not I'm not disclaiming that that's a huge part of my life and it's saved me many of times just throughout the human experience. But definitely a big part of it is when I want to make a music video, I can make it. And I think that's all I like we're talking about. For it is what I have is like those are my stories, those are my visuals to my stories. That's how I see the world, and I want to be able to provide that. So acting has financed your music for sure, hundred percent, dude. Oh yeah. And I feel like, do you feel like the acting help put you in a in a better space for your music to be absolutely to be heard? But I think, okay, So I think musicians know, like when they hear myself, you know what I'm saying, But it's hard for an audience when they've seen you as something for a minute, you know, And it's yeah, yeah being pigeon home for sure. And it's sometimes Rice versus some people don't do music. It's like, oh, I didn't know he's on to it. You know. It's like whatever you found first, that's what you identified with. This is who that is to me. Um. But I think that just comes a time in consistency. I think if you put out six albums in their own toper, you know, people are like, Okay, he's not just trying to make music. He makes music. That's because I'm not gonna lie to you. It's very interesting to me to see every character off of every show drop a song. Yeah, I'd be like wait wait wait such and such yeah, thing too, and it kind of it waddles it down to a certain degree because a lot of it isn't good, right, and you wanted to be because you like the character they are on the show, are they played in this movie? And then that music hid and he's like, boy, you ain't who you did. And that's tough, especially for artists like yourself, right, who just a just a consumer sees you as one thing, and now you're judged by almost what other people are doing, right, because their song wasn't that good, So they're like, I'm not gonna listen to hyeah. Right. So that's why to me, it was really it was really important for Drake to become Drake because that you can't put that stigma on people anymore of the oh he only does right, Like obviously Jamie Foxx, who was an anomaly, right, he's just he can do anything. He's an alien absolutely, um. But when Drake came and did it, it was like Will chaired Jimmy right, like nobody expects it will chair Jimmy to be the top rapper in the world and maybe R and B singer for men too. Like you know, I mean like he I mean he did it. He did it, and I definitely listen. I was trying not to listen, but also still at the same time, I don't even really hear what he's doing. I need that little steel tolle melody. No no no, no, no no no, I don't hear it. But so for someone like yourself, was that also inspiring for you to see that that? Okay, especially in your age range too. Drake's not for sure for sure, I mean funny say that because I have a you know, I'm always working on the album seven It's night Night. But for one of the intro tractors, a bar that kind of alludes to that, UM, just saying like, uh, you know, okay, Sorry, I'm kind of changing topic. Do you guys think that in some circumstances or most you need a co sign or something like that? Two certain, because when I think about I think Drake needed Wayne. Yeah, yes I do personally, you know, someone someone else. I think Drake will say that. Um, Wayne's co sign was huge, right, right, And did you kind of have or was whiz kind of on his I think Wi was was doing his thing, but I think his connection to Snoop but that came later. It came later, But I think that he had already had cushion orange jus before Snoop? Did he have black and yellow before? Yeah, you know, he was cracking. He was cracking. But I think something about that connection, right, I don't think it was a validation maybe let me let me not say that because it's it's a different thing. But I think somehow that connection, right just took things to a really different cool level, you know for sure. But all of those things, yeah, all of those things are are really in my in my opinion important, and I think that we suffer from that in army for sure. There's not enough reach back. Right. So to answer a question, yes, super inspiring, super inspiring. Um, And I do think one thing that I do lean on two is that I did I was doing music before I got successful at the acting on the level of acting that I'm doing now, I was putting out stuff for it. So when people see they're like, oh, no, he's not just trying to you know, he's been kind of put working out in a sense. But dude, I'm I'm really happy with where I'm at creatively. And it took all of these years and experiences that I've been through and things that I pull from and take to really sit back and enjoy. I think that's that's my favorite part at end the day. I make music for me, um. And then anybody who's like me obviously will you know, be attracted to the music, but to be able to look at pain or joy or any experience and then listen back to it as a song and be like, here's a question, what was what was I guess what was a turning point? Or I guess from what you just said, like being completely happy in the space that you are and understanding that all things were powerful the course to get you to this space. What was the moment or a thing that helps you get to that realization. There's been multiple times, um, um. So there's been times like, let's say, there's been like roles I really wanted or like really bad, Oh God, please God, so bad? No, I want to be so bad, and then you have a dango unchained somewhere. Please No, we're not gonna do this. I just wanted enough. I love you. I didn't even the same reason. I just asked him. Everybody knows. Everybody Wait, who's don't worry about Maybe they won't, but no, then maybe the movie comes out and then it's not great. And I just kind of like trust in the process of things. Um, but even I wish that is. Are you happy when it when it's like when it's a weak you know what I mean? Hell yeah movie? No? But and sometimes it's never an actor's fault, dude. It can be the director, can be the light guy, it can be the writer, and it ruins. You can ruin the movie, dude. By the way, I saw the Elvis movie started to segue incredible and they're not paying me to say this, but the Elvis movie was great. Well, man, what is your thoughts on that? Why are you making that face? Elvis? You have thoughts about Elvis? Come on, he was still cold and we young girls all night. Wait wait, I just want to know. I'm just asking, are we we're making movies and saluting bro men? Who No, You're right, okay, sorry, As a filmmaker, cinema just pure cinema, pretty great acting, great Yeah, it wasn't him. It wasn't he's just acting. He was just a just and yeah, but did they tell the whole story? Probably not. They never do though, Okay, seg waiting back where to say, We're back to the arm beat alight right right right past regrets. Um, you can't have any can't you can't have it. That's not happy. That's not call it a regret. Let's just call it a moment where where you've monologue afterwards, which we should have put out. Hold up, m that's one and that's what I mean, just saying it was weird. I've seen that song all the time. Hold Up was a shock to me and probably everybody. First, let me tell you so, we wrote this song and then he goes in the booth, sings the song, leaves and tells me to sing it like that and then he'll be back. I said, you, mother, I was pined because they get hit it riff at the end. It took me at least twenty five takes to uh to get it, but I got it. But it took me about twenty five. And I'm not saying it just because you're here, just because you're a little bro killed it thank you. I really do. I still I'm telling you that's like gonna be an interest. You can get this on camera. There's gonna be an intro to an album. Do you have it? It's here. I forgot you have forget about me too. I don't have my version. I gotta you know what, But I do have a computer that I gotta fire up. And it's it's easy. We can do. You know what I'm saying. That's just it's amazing song though, man. And just because I'm talking to R and B. I mean, that's like an epitome of it. I think something like that. So what does the day look like for you as as a music artist? As now? You know it's now, I mean one of one of the biggest actors. Like, what does today look like for you? What is you're saying? Like a regular day? Oh? Right now? For the next time out, I'm very excited about it. Rough draft three, I have draft one, rough drafts two. This is gonna be the third installment of like that little series, and I want to put the music out. I've been shooting videos. I just had a meeting today before I came here about the next video. I'm trying to shoot um potentially maybe doing film later in the year with James s Franco, so just focusing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a beast man. So that was and that kind of like was one of one of those moments where you're like, what really, like, didn't have to audition anything, just kind of like came. Really, that's beautiful that happens. It's scary. It's almost scary because like TV one and BT, you know what I'm saying, Sometimes they just call me and say, she just called the other dad. You just weren't available. They called us, They just called let's say, Tank, this is I mean, I know yours is as big a level here where I'm at. Stop they called me to you were good, we got this fift hunting for you, and you know me, I just act over at the river, you know what I mean? Hey, but that could be crazy. And it's things like that that I'm like, yo, because I think at the end of the day, God knows your heart and things you really want, so I'm like, obviously I have to action. That could be an amazing opportunity and they could just take them to another level to where the music that I want to be heard will be heard, and I'm different what I'm saying. How are you How are you chasing the music part of it though? Like, are you doing it completely independently or are you trying to figure out, you know, how to be part of the machine of music. I'm definitely trying to do the second part. I think I'm doing it independently kind of currently. You know, I don't know what I can say and what I can't say, but right, right, um, but I want to uh yeah, I just think that I need as much time and effort I put into music. I need that to be putting on the business side of things and the marketing side of things. And because I feel like there's if I'm put me on stage, I'm performing, and if you put me in studio on the record, and it's either as good, if not better than things in the marketplace, and it just kind of takes the eyes and visibility to to see that. So you need the right squad, you you. Um, there's certain there's certain things that make sense for certain artists. Right. Um. The independent R and B is tough, It's really tough, right, but it's lucrative. You can make money. You can definitely make money off it. But you know when I when I look at you as a brand, your brand is made for all things major, Right Like, I look at you as a five tool athlete. If anybody understands baseball, that's the that's the guy that can do all these things and don't do them at a really high level in baseball. I look at you that way. You're not and you know, no disrespect. You know what comes after no disrespect, Um, it's a little bit of disrespect. Um. You're bigger than independent music because the ancillary things that come along with who you are. Right Like, if you were looking at music purely from a money play, and I can get my money, I get my get I get my ship off this way, that would be cool. And and that's possible for you because you have these platforms. You're on one of the biggest shows on TV. Shout out to Growning, Shout out to my brother Kenya. Back can embarrass. That's been my partner for many moons. Dude though too not just like you know, he's an amazing human being, right Um, he did ride by me one day in a in a convertible. Oh he doesn't. And and and the crazy thing is I was taking a walk with my sons. Me and him used to be neighbors and I was taking a walk during the pandemic. You know, everybody had to figure out their workouts. I'm taking a walk and he was. He called me embarrassed about driving by and that droptop Ferrari as me and my son would walk in the neighborhood. He was like, oh, I knew, I don't even really drive this car. Brot you up one time that I said, I said, that's amazing that the guy. But I say all that to say, bro, like, you need a machine because all the other things in your career have a machine connected to it. You deserve a like a way that's not just breeze over Broadway. That is not something that everyone does. That's that's a that's an elite group of people. You're a part of that major television network TV show Open Up for Tank. You definitely pulled up crazy. Yeah you definitely. Yeah, I appreciate that. But never forget that. I say all that to say, like I said, Bro, like for you in your career, and I assess different people's career because I'm you know, I've been on both sides, the executive side, the your side. Everything ain't for everybody. Independence ain't. It's just and I look at it for you, I look at a hundred percent of nothing's nothing. That's what I look at it as for independent for you, because you know, it's not about the money for you at all. Yours is taking you to another level. Yours is getting you an arenas so that you can do them goddamn backflips, really on the stage big enough that you won't flip off of it. You know what I'm saying, Lord knows I performed on this right now because I know you will because you love that. You love the game that much in the craft, but you deserve that big stage, bro and the and unfortunately, the only way you get to that type of stage it is through the majors. You know what I'm saying. And people know what I mean when I say unfortunately, because there's there's other things that come up. Sometimes you gotta give. But that's me and him are having this conversation other day and I was just like, yo, like you were saying, it's not about who's him. They can't see him. My brother I and Jackson shut out. Oh yeah, we're having a conversation. I was like it's not about the money for me. And you know, I was like someone could you know, someone could own a part of something that I had. But if it gets me to a position to where when I talk about life things where there's political or just humanity type of things, that there's weight hill getting there by doing something you love is what I would like to do, which is music and whatever else. But that's the ultimate goal, you know, to be able to have a voice, because I believe at the end of the day, whatever I'm doing, wherever I'm at, I'm always on the good side of things. I want the betterment for people. I want to help, and there's always other people that are trying to destroy the world. And uh so you know, being on that side of it is is where I'll always be. So that's where I'm That's why I'm not stopping because I have to be in that seat. I want to be in that seat. Yeah, you gotta, you just I mean, you deserve that appreciate Like I think, you know, when it comes to the music side of it, it's not about um, it's not about the ability. It's just about the amount of people who know. It's the visibility. M hmm. If you get if you give us a percentage of shark be our shark foot. It's not the ability the animated dad. I just want to wear no crock sign. No we swim in this family always sound like that. Have you ever done voice over? No? I want you? Could you kill that? Yeah? You kill that? You have somebody you can call? Yeah? Done you ladies and gentlemen, you just heard that. Serious. If you don't see me on the next four weeks of the Army Money podcast, because I'm doing voice over, give us as a shark dad for Shark Club voiceover, bring somebody out to the stage. Listen. You've seen Coconut and she's really turned things out. I mean she's popped the whole coconut for us right there. It's gotten splashing on stage. But now coming to the stage, Jesus went there, give it up for Heaven. We've done that. That was Jesus with get it up for Yeah, I'm ready. But let's get him darnby. Let's let's let's test because because that's definitely your past. No, that's what lets gon to test this past. I'm gonna see where he's at all. Right, Top five R and B artists could be group male or female. Your top five. Bryan McKnight, who's man? Thank wow? We about two more straight R and B. They can be hybrids, amy hybrids. They could be hybrids. There are you from? Oh man? Oh man? Oh man? I want to I want to put me in condition in there. Think it's yours. I wouldn't be mad if you did. These guys are amazing. Is that for? That's for? This is an unfair This is n free cop right here? Mm hmm. Nikki feels say me, I'm flipping this Muther the table, he said, send me fake colicator over this whole fake it's pigeon? Is this pigeon backy? Know who you on the reil? Who who your faith? Bro um? Oh dude, come on, come on, come on. This is a little more old school. Okay, all right, that's a that's a that's a call round out all around them, so he said. Brian mcknighten voice him derail uh make conditions And Chris Brown, I think I just threw my condition if I'm being honest, because I was nervous. No. I like men in there, but men is my secret ingredient in live performance and vocals. Are you get you're giving us some some secrets. That's my secret ingredient. Nobody really understands the power what Stokely was doing. The power condition the Welcome to the Mint Factory every day, every day and in there that's real study. Our church band, we would still in church. Yeah, we were still licks from condition brown Eyes and absolutely that definitely made it to offering. Yeah, absolutely absolutely. All right, here we go trying going top five R and B songs or album what she wanted? You want to do when the songs are album? Oh, I've got to go back. Let's go back many conditions out users. Sorry, I don't know what I just sorry, sorry because when you and then you just said albums, I'm like, I cannot be mad at that. Yeah. Sorry, So you can give me five R and B songs or albums. You can mix in albums and songs. You already said confessions, So we're gonna give you that. Okay, album you said confessions. Uh, Ryan McKnight, crazy love m Um. I think Donald ben a knee boys some men? Um? Is that Jimmy Jammy Terry Lewis's bend knee because that's not baby face. I think that's I think that's Jimmy Lewis Jimmy. Yeah, I'm not even gonna hold you. One of my favorite songs. We can Love for real. Mike jameson of my brothers, and he was on that He's a monster too. Okay, wait, so we have confessions. Now it's gonna seem like I'm just saying stuff because you're here. But it's nothing. Always another one. Yeah, Yes, it was good. The story about all that was, I don't can't when we said that when PSP came out. When it first came out, I didn't get the games that came with it. You know, my family they just got PSP. That's fine, and it came with the demo came at the time I do. I'm not so you. There's no games. No, I mean there are games. My family do not give me. You know, I know there are games. No, don't talking about you don't have not a game when you first get it, when I first get it, not a game. Just the demo district comes within its previews of games, and then it's music videos and all the music videos. There's a few rock bands and they had oh and then the guy lying about having Anintendo but I got one. Yeah, I love all the games, play punch Out all the time. Level seven's crazy super Mario man like the tunnel and then the mustroom. Right, oh man, I think I was on level twelve. You got BSP with the demo demo, oh Marion, And I remember I just watched that at least twenty tho times and uh yeah, it's one of my favorite songs. For real? Is that five? That's confessions? We said confessions, we said crazy level we can love can we can love it? That's fine, that's fine, that's nice. Get home later and be like watch you in there. Okay, So this is this is this is a new a new one R and B voltron. Now you can do your house. You can do you can do three pieces or five pieces in building an R and B artists? What pieces you would take from each R and B artists to put into an R and B A one super R and B artist, Like you're building an artist on two K? What do you get? What do you give him? Okay, let's start with I give them Wait wait, I want to give the movement of Chris. I'd give the range of Brian McKnight controlled tank. Okay, let keep you on the list, Bro, I'm gonna give you a set this watch. I just know that this is I'm gonna say, what the comments gonna say, this is gonna name the women. No, no, I already know what the comments gonna say. I'm sorry I didn't say male or females, so I think we all kind of assumed it was just madies, ladies. We love this Javin, that is my favorite. Okay, let's go back movement to Chris. Some of the male artists. You're building a range of Brian McKnight control tank tone of Donny Hathaway. How many is that? His patience? My god, he'll make you wait so uh oh ship and maybe I mean maybe the harm but this is is one guy, but how many arrangement like take six mm hmm. What about the aesthetic. I'm gonna give you a six piece. I mean, I'm liking the not necessarily current name vibe, like not covered face up, but I like the mysteriousness I would like the person to be. You want the mysterious R and B nigger with on I wanted I want you to see him, but maybe like think I think Dracula. I'm saying, count Dracula fly Long Trench Coat, maybe Fantom of the Opera mass I don't know. You just want your character so pretty much. You and super Block. You want to what the cape on ship? Listen, you know what he wants. He wants somebody that people can be for Halloween. Yes, that's your that's your staple. That's your staple. No, if you're you're not a star. If they can't beat you for Halloween, so they can't be Chris Brown. Finally, yes you can. How can you be Chris Brown? Finally? Where everything everywhere? Now listen, you can because I got kids. If my son says, Dad, I want to be Chris Brown for Halloween, probably going to give him a little bit of color here, we might go, we might go blind blind, We're gonna slip. We're gonna give him the little beer thing and the heart to the heart. But listen, these are these are specific things if you're gonna make it. We want to be Joe to see Oh, I'm gonna give him the Joe to see Boots. I want to black blanks. I'm an oil a little nigg up, me get him some plag muscle and look gotye. No, no, no, bro, you have to you have to have a call out your visual call out, right, So that's what I'm saying to you. Like with Chris Brown, put a little put a little Jordan three on the side of face. He only got know walking around with Jordan three. I think it's a three or four. I think it's the three. Yeah, you got three right here? Right? Yeah, no, no, no, the shoot, got to shoot. But what I'm saying is there are certain characteristics. Yeah, for sure, just translate that you just know off the rip, Like when Cisco came with the with the platinum blonde, with the silver blonde in the book, like you have that in the one hand cart wheel, Yeah, the one which I still don't really ain't pulling that off. Bro. You know I can do the one I've been doing. Don't hand cart will since I was kicking he did. It's not you can still can't do an area. He was doing a one hand cart wool. He also was doing one hand card whool and also was on wires. So I mean to us, to us gymnasts, gymnast, Yeah, he didn't do an area here. It was. It was very weak. No hate the Cisco Cisco's dark but the one hand cart wheel cringe. But at the time. People loved it. I love that niggers. That was grew up flipping on mattress, look at you. I grew up flipping off the fix. I flipped off cars, barks, benches. I have the record at Sherman Park in Milwaukee, twenty hand springs in the rough um on grass, so that one hand cart wheel threw me off. Okay, I didn't like it all right, doing so much soul, so he should have been able to do it that hand. He flipped on bitches okay, and walked. He walked, and then I think he didn't do the hand. No, but he flew on the wires over to the women. Yes he did. I like how you like? You wanted to say, you know what I'm saying all the music, he said, you know, he flew over there women women. Harvey moment when Steve was like, you know, I'm a certain TV show. I can't be saying over the women. Respect. I respect your control. You got more BIXI at the door. I understand you be cool. Oh shoot, let Jay do. I'm wild. James the smoothest I've ever made my whole life. I appreciate that good. James definitely got this is it is how smooth Jay is. Jay walks into my closet right where right when he starts managing me, it's like, yeah, we're gonna have to you know, we're gonna have to really look the part now, we're going to really take this thing to the next level. And we walked in my closet. He's like, he's like, yeah, I think we should I think we should get rid of Oh yeah, everything he has, everything I performed. Yeah, you shouldn't do that anymore. Wow, you should, you should get rid of I said, we're just gonna give it. No burn it, burn it. Nobody else should have this either. And he said it that soft. He was so cool, he said I and I felt like he was trying to help. Yeah, I didn't take its true about him is like, you know, it's it's never that. It's never It's like it's just like and and and and to this day, people have a problem doing that. Honesty has been the difference. Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. So he has a way of smoothly telling you you need your bullshit, Yeah, you need you need to fix it. Call me like early in the morning, you bullshit and cheafe Before he says anything else, I'm like, what I do? Listen, you know what you did? You know what you did? Hey wait, I want to know how you guys met because I do admire, you know, two black men really helping, loving and supporting each other. We need more of that in the world. Let's put that out there some But you guys are a great example of that. So how do you guys meet? How to happen? Sorry, not the whole thing to interview us? Yeah, really really good going somewhere. You're going somewhere. I don't know where. I'd love to know. Now we met we met through um, we met through the Underdogs. Yeah, so I had it was my second stint. It was my second stint with the Underdogs because originally Harvey Damon and myself we founded the Underdogs together and I ended up going and working with some other people. I end up leaving over some business stuff. And that's simple thing over there. I mean, you know, it's just business. And I was a kid. I was really young. They were they were a lot older than me. I was a kid. You know, what they offered me I didn't like, and you know, like we kept our friendship, but it just didn't work for me and then when they brought me when they we all stayed in contact through our friendship, and a selling point of me coming back was them introducing me to Tank, who I didn't know at the time. I had never met him before. What I'm saying, yeah, I knew it. Yeah, no, right, because um the first album had come out and it was you know, it did a ship. How do we gonna pause? You gotta stop? Yeah, yeah, but it's effective where we come back in from we are it's gonna um. So, so the selling point was them introducing me to Tank, of me coming back and working again with them, obviously, you know, our deal structure was different when I came back s getting what I wanted and I needed to you know, to pull back up. But my like I said, meeting Tank over there was like, oh this it was like kindred spirits, Like, oh, he's my same type of guy. Man like athletes, he likes play sports. You don't call no fouls on the basketball court like him. Yeah, you know what I mean. That really that really was the full thing for me was you know with basketball. You know what I mean, everybody knows how much I love basketball, and you're pretty good I'm okay, I I mean my old age. You know. Yeah, we're gonna get through. We're gonna get to because we forgot to bring that up. He saw he was. He accidentally brought up basketball and never accident accident. I'm sure he wants to get to He had a good day. He came one time and had a good day. But that's how we that's how we connected through, you know, meeting through the production team and just locking in and just writing for Marion all these other artists that were coming through it. Really, I guess probably a Marian was our first. Yeah, that was our first replacement together. Yeah. And how how long ago was that mans and to two three to three? No, because the All Star weekend when we was when we did so three yewo three Stark in l A. Wow, I'll start week in l A. So that's when we did Marian. But we have you know, we have been well. I mean I have some of the stick around that long. It's good, especially in this business, it's hard. It's hard, like I said, sperience minded, yeah right right, that one. It was like meeting him was like like meeting my cousin, like a long cousin, right, now we're in the same family, like, what's your last name? And it was it was instant from him from his brothers to just yeah, we're just instantly he's like, okay, we're family. That's right. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. And then we just you know, he's always been my point guard, which seguates us into you know, your ability to play basketball as well. I'm from Indiana. Who's your state were you? Were you a Hoosier? I am as because I'm from that's technically with it. When the last time y'all want something, Yeah, what do you mean the team Pacers? Anything basketball? Because you I mean, you know, I'm from the Bay since Reggie, I think we got four Reggie from l A, so you know he from He's like, yeah, he belonged, he belonged. But you know we got four championships in the asked you know what I mean, Steph A. Clay and Ramon Dremont huh and Dollar. Oh. He came in busting hunt. That was like he hadn't played for a little He did that because I was hype. I was like, this is first of one moment he said, let's just get to what he wants to talk about it. Let's get to his good day. My good day is you know, uh, since I was very young, since me man, I was a kid, and I told him iael hoop and we'd always talked it to trying to stud the man. You can't hoop. I was like, I can. I'm good. Come on, come on, come on swoop man. You know I'm good. Never looked good. You know I'm good. This is probably was this early this year, or was it last year? Maybe probably last year? Probably last year he invited me to a run. Yeah, I got to show him when I'm about okay, And I had like eight of the nine points, had about so we only played the seven and then he made his lose asked his brother and asked his brother bro, we were gonna win. I hit the game winning shot. First of all, you tell me how five men playing basketball are looking at the clock as well, and know that the time they're like it was the second after the deeper didn't count. Okay, So do you want to you wantten? Listen? I was hot. He was his brothers three like, you know, he was good if Bob was on his team. Okay, So okay, it's the R and B money have. We have the Our Money podcast. We also have the Army Money Run, right, which is a mixture of entertainers, business people, and NBA players and overseas guys. So it's a mixture of it. You got, you got some real basketball going. And I'm very selective about who can come on, you know what I mean, but the family. So he has the invite and that's my guy. And he came, and he showed up, and he showed out. He hooped. That's the first time. Now the rules of the run. We play shot of course, we play shot, We play game clock of course, and we also have if your airball it's a negative water, right, you got, we're gonna reward this defense because you can't get entertainers to play defense, Right's. It's tough to tell a nigga who just did ten movies. You gotta guard somebody. Well, you gonna lose, nigga if you shoot that dumb mass three because the NBA three as far as hell, If you shoot that dumb mass three at airball, that's a negative one, your team's gonna want to jump you. Right, So he hit a big shot, but the clock had, first of all, did a little cooking from top. He did cooking at the problem. He's young and it was too much cooking, and he wasn't paying attention to clock man smith man tone on his side, busy making that real. I lost my voice doing karaoke the other day. That was bullshit. But the cook it made the clock run out. It was like they would have said. They were like, it was the seventh of the second Office, and you're like, that's what are you guys? Kid? And I did the Florida came in the middle, gets guys to the pick oh, and when it was like they're like, no, no, it's good. Listen, it's tight up there. I like that it gets people playing this stuff. Listen. You don't play hard, you don't get back home right right exactly now you want to go home because nobody else invite you but me. Right you're coming up, be like how do you get here? Oh? You know, yeah, man, sorry man, because you know I got my guys, you know what I mean, Like I sent out my invites and it's it's it's for the guys. And you listen. When I can't tell the Marta Rose and he can't tell Martha Rose, can he gonna Kyrie? Like they're gonna like they put Kim. I wouldn't want to go him. It was it was he just it was just it was Halloween. It was it was it was hollow and they're going to play. When he showed up, it was scary. It's like the mom starts showing up its step when you like, is that right right? Be fouling because like, like we always say, they're singers and their singers and there's hoop presenters what And I'm like and I'm like, when when those type of guys come around, I'll play my defense, but I don't play the defense that I would play on a guy that's not a professional hooper, because I really do take into consideration that they got they gotta, they gotta really they really it's million need that right right right right right right right, like me fouling one of those guys hard to prove a point in here. I made that mistake. I think why I didn't fol him hard, But I remember I played Chris Paul when I was like eighteen or something, and I felt like I had him in the glove, you know what I'm saying. I felt like he wasn't really I'm sure he didn't feel that he didn't. But at the time, that's that's the story I made. Let's that you had Paul Pierce. No, Chris, Chris, Chris felt like you had the point guy had him in the glove. The point guy. Understand me, he locked up the point guy. I had him in the glove. Man. You know, we know Chris, right, I know I asked me about this time, but he's gonna probably not remember. He's not gonna remember it at all. It was a trade. Even he had sweatpants on, it doesn't matter. I was fully in my shorts and shoes and you know I stretched before the game. He was really out there like this. I'm sure there any position to see people's in. He was okay with being in that position. No, No, he was. He wasn't really going hard. But let me just you know, I'm living a dream man him in the Glove movie. I would say it's on cameras olda any hoops, because there's been some guys that you know, just been my They talked and I let them come, and then I did not invite him ever again. But I'll tell them too though, like this ain't for you. Your brother is your grab your rebounds I'm going to body somebody. Yeah he's yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. They got mules in his college. Yeah yeah, he but he came he came on some chill ship. No, no, that he was chilling. He was like no, no, no, I know because who long enough. I know when guys come in and it's like okay. He was like all right, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna play my role in here. Yeah right, I'm gonna play. That's the the family, that's the one. Yeah, he's the guy. Yeah, he's really a little retired now, you know, he's a little retired. Look look chur Yeah, I'm just the guys. He got to handle the business. Yeah yeah, yeah, there's some nice slacks. Yeah yeah. You know what I'm saying. I grew my hair in meditation link from you know, like, I'm just as long as you don't break out no watermelons in here. And it's my okay because you got dress and ship, you know now everything with dress, I think they're gonna break out the watermelon. Man, then you got to relax. That's always his my I love I love oh. And I just want to know who went and got the watermelons like the brother did. They post made it him. What was it like? What it's like? No, No, he's downstairs. He's got the watermelon. I'm just trying to figre out what the guys he said, anybody any let him. They're gonna let you. Go to the back door. He got the watermelons right now. He just can't get in. He can't get in. He coming right now, there is Okay, why is it wrapping so much? You gotta have the right knife. You gotta that's easy. And those looked like they were professionally professionally cut, pally hopeful go to Gelson's. Get it. You didn't go get it from Gelson's. They got the smaller, smaller pieces that pre cut, three cut. You can just pull them apart. Bro, we're about to stop, We're about to start. Do you want us to win? Come on, man, Mario doesn't have watermelons. I know this justice getting this his hair make his hair run. Oh that was crazy, Brett if runs around too. We go tag teams the watermelons because we kind of eat it the same, all right, And they I didn't realize. I think I saw him for the first time, like last year. I was like they three of them though, yeah. Yeah, they're like twins bro act like everything. That's crazy. Pray I love him, guys, all right, get to the I need to hear his I want to say. I already know he got something he got Guys. You know you're young fellow man. Listen. You know I think the last time I saw you put up to your birthday party. Man, you talking too loud. You understand that you're streaming right. I got the call after your birthday cart Yeah what he said, young ni doing it with that face? Hey, I had listen. You know one thing we're gonna do it salute you when you're doing what you're doing. Man. Yeah, and your birthday party, he was doing it. Man, it was fun. It was yeah the oh yeah, ok, yeah, my young really living this. This this this Hollywood. When you put out the calls, they come, they pull up, they come on through. That's what I heard. We at This segment of our show is called I Ain't saying no names. Yeah it already sounds man. Listen, listen. The story can be funny, are fucked up? Are both? The only rule? It's got to be a good story. You definitely gotta be a good story because you want to get that off. You don't want to be the guy that comes on here with the weak story story right, the comments they're going to comment about the comments. Comment pressure is no. The only rule of the game is you can't say their name. Okay, easy, I don't do that. Hey, you know what I mean? I never that he didn't have Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't do that. I don't have to. Um, so story, what's the content? Um? And it's supposed to be use no names and give me whatever story you want, whatever story and whatever story whoever about moved and you want to go viral, just turning the range. Shoot, I don't know. I don't really have any crazy stories. Man, man, you're lying. You're starting this off as a liar. All right, true, I've been called that before. I just pictured it as not telling the full true all right, crazy story, you know, like a Hollywood story. Whatever, it's your world, brother, Okay, here's a good story. Um. I won't say the name, but he's a drummer of a famous band. Can I say that? You don't have to do that? Already? Did it too late? Here? It is? So I did I pull up white Man? Okay? Okay? And I pulled up I was invited by I knew this guy. Knew the guy, and he was like, Yo, come this party. I come in. You know how much it was cool? It's cool. And I'm always mean guys. I'm nice, Okay, nice guy. That's why I hate when people mean to me. It's like, how why are you? What? Do You're evil? You must have Satan in you? What's going on? Because I'm a kind person. So I'm in there, Hey, what's up? Man? Blah blah, and already kind of shook his hand and he's just like whatever, really shakes my hand, like whatever. We're there, were chilling, We're about to leave now. The homie that invited me to go there is in the car with this dude and some chicks from the car or whatever. And I'm with a woman that I'm with and she's you know, with me. She's next to me, and they're in the car and I'm outside the car and I'm like, yo, where you guys going And the guys on the front seat of the driver's seat he keeps saying, yo, yo, we don't know what we're going. I said, hold on, buddy, talking to him in the back. I'm trying to figure out where we're going? Where are we going? And he was like, yo, man, I don't know yet. We're figuring out blah blah. And then she comes in and she's like, hey, listen, sorry, we're just trying to figure out, like where exactly where going. He's like, can you back up from the car please? To her? And I walked up to the window. I said, excuse me, sir, and I said, I appreciate you know, you're trying to figure out. I just don't speak to her like that. And he went, who the funk are you like that? I just lost and I punched in the face hard. Yeah, his nose was bleeding. It was a good time, and they scared it off. They were in uber and they were scared. They don't start shooting rat the weather. Yeah no, I just I'm back in him like that. Wow. And then he was like and then they told me that we both knew. He was like, dude, he told me, you broke his nose. Man, what's going off? I said, bro? I said, you're speaking just anytime I'm sorry, says I love all people, but anytime, like white people speak to me in a certain way, like I just have flashbacks. I'm just like slavery. This is no you think you can get away this now? No? Sorry, One more story, quick kind of story. The first This is the story, and it's also about me being aggressive. I'm not gonna whoever you are, go fix your nose and your mother mouth. But look, you're talking to Trevor Jackson. Okay, but don't take this grown this ship. You hear me, You hear me. Put them on. You need to hear me. He need notice, put them on, notse go fix your face? Hey, go do you a little nose, Candy. I'm sure you were probably on it. Hey, he woke your gss up. Hey, but I didn't know how big of the like. I found that out there, I was like, oh fuck stole on one the Beatles man. Hey. So I was like, oh ship, this nick is okay? Bet, sorry, but just don't speak that way. Okay. Last story, I was on tour in Chicago. Similar story. Me and this guy right here, that guy there's Jackson. That's my brother and my cousin. Um, the Jackson's are here. Yeah, so we're at uh, we're at the damn uh. Then you go across the street and no one's in there, like rapped the show. We're like, yeah, let's go somewhere. No one's in here. Cool. We go in there, we start d JAN. The DJ booth is a little bit like elevated, probably like this this talk. And then we're staying up there with DJ. No one's in there. We people start walking by and just flooding in because we're like playing music. Oh, getting it popping. Then this guy comes there's like, yo, what the heck, get down bla blah blah blah blah. He climbs up the thing and he's like, hey man, what the fun you guys don't get off. I was like, sir, I have no problem hearing anything you have to say, do anything you ask. Just please don't speak to me that way. I'll talk to me fucking way I want to talk to you. I was like, if like this, bro and he felt offs bros Bad. I was like, I don't know what. I don't know what I said, but I just gathered all the energy. I gathered all the energy from the outside of it came in and he felt and he felt onnest me because he's crowding there. So he's like they're like body surfing. He's like shutting the funk out of here while while these bodies slept. I swear, Bro, I was like, God, I look at like this. I was like, I'm a human being. That's all I want to talk. I'm a human being. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Oh dude, my issue. It's just don't be mean man life. You know, it's like what you said though you're such a nice person. You're like nice and violent you and you put out so much good energy. You know what I'm saying that once you're back, I was just hurt and I'm like, what do you Why are you speaking to me like I talked to you. I want to talk to who? Do you think that you gottah human? The triggers for you? Brother? Yeah, I'm sorry because apparently it goes from zero to a hunted man. Um. Listen, man, uh a little bro. We celebrate you. I love you, guys. Man, thanks for having me. Salute you. Um. We continue to hold you in high regard, and we will make sure that anybody's speaking on your name does the same. Um, thank you for coming to the Harpy Money Podcast. Man, my name is Tank, I'm Jay Valentine. This is Trevor Jackson, and this has been Treasure, Action Jackson on the Money podcast man Trevor Action, R and B Money. R and B Money is the production of the Black Effect podcast Network. For more podcasts from I Heart Radio, visit the ir heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows, don't forget to subscribe to and rate our show, and you can connect with us on social media via at R and B Money podcast or at The Real Tank or at j Valentine

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