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Hi, good people, This is Sugar Steed from Team Supreme. We are back with part two of our QLs interview with Kid Capri. In part one, Kids spoke about growing up just blocks away from here, a cool hurt through his first party. He also recalled digging for records in the seventies and eighties and the early inroads to his legendary career. If you haven't check out that episode. All month long, we're celebrating fifty years of hip hop at Quest Left Supreme. In addition to Kid Capri, we have conversations with Styles P and slum Village.

Hi, good people, This is Sugar Steed from Team Supreme. We are back with part two of our QLs interview with Kid Capri. In part one, Kids spoke about growing up just blocks away from here, a cool hurt through his first party. He also recalled digging for records in the seventies and eighties and the early inroads to his legendary career. If you haven't check out that episode. All month long, we're celebrating fifty years of hip hop at Quest Left Supreme. In addition to Kid Capri, we have conversations with Styles P and slum Village.

What year was your first mixtape?

What year was your first mixtape?

The first? Well, keep it Bob being a star child, Chief about a star child.

The first? Well, keep it Bob being a star child, Chief about a star child.

Me and him start making tapes together when I started playing the S and S with him, and then after I left after that year a year year and a half, I left. You know, I was doing my little parties Studio fifty four and stuff like that, and I just said what I'm gonna doing. I went outside.

Me and him start making tapes together when I started playing the S and S with him, and then after I left after that year a year year and a half, I left. You know, I was doing my little parties Studio fifty four and stuff like that, and I just said what I'm gonna doing. I went outside.

You played the Studio fifty four absolutely, Oh WHOA tell me what that shit's like?

You played the Studio fifty four absolutely, Oh WHOA tell me what that shit's like?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Man, yeah, Red Alert What happened was Louis Vega. Larry Levan was playing Fridays and Saturday, but they had this Wednesday that Red Alert was doing. Red Alert was going on the road with BDP. So he told the people at Studio fifty four, I want KICKI Prix to be to take my spot. It was like KICKI Pree, who's that?

Man, yeah, Red Alert What happened was Louis Vega. Larry Levan was playing Fridays and Saturday, but they had this Wednesday that Red Alert was doing. Red Alert was going on the road with BDP. So he told the people at Studio fifty four, I want KICKI Prix to be to take my spot. It was like KICKI Pree, who's that?

We don't know him?

We don't know him?

Like nah, He was like, yo, trust me, He's gonna do what he do. When I got there, you know, I told it into pandemonium. But I was going on the regular and I was going on the club nights too. I would go hang out just to be there. You know what I'm saying that I couldn't believe I was playing Studio fifty four and shit, but I went there and did my thing. This was eighty seven, eighty eight, eighty seven, eighty eight.

Like nah, He was like, yo, trust me, He's gonna do what he do. When I got there, you know, I told it into pandemonium. But I was going on the regular and I was going on the club nights too. I would go hang out just to be there. You know what I'm saying that I couldn't believe I was playing Studio fifty four and shit, but I went there and did my thing. This was eighty seven, eighty eight, eighty seven, eighty eight.

Eighty nine around that time. Okay, I brought biz there. I bought I bought all these different groups to Studio fifty four before. Man, it was dope. It was.

Eighty nine around that time. Okay, I brought biz there. I bought I bought all these different groups to Studio fifty four before. Man, it was dope. It was.

It was crazy, and then it got so crazy that the crowd it was just the crowds was too much. They were messing up the fruit stands and I'm watching the security open the door with people's heads and I just say, you know what, it would just end this. But now after that, I said what I'm gonna do? And I said, you know what, I'm just gonna sell my old mixtapes. And you know, so I went to trailer Horn and I brought a hundred mixtapes. I copied tapes that I had, and I made a new tape.

It was crazy, and then it got so crazy that the crowd it was just the crowds was too much. They were messing up the fruit stands and I'm watching the security open the door with people's heads and I just say, you know what, it would just end this. But now after that, I said what I'm gonna do? And I said, you know what, I'm just gonna sell my old mixtapes. And you know, so I went to trailer Horn and I brought a hundred mixtapes. I copied tapes that I had, and I made a new tape.

And I was copying on.

And I was copying on.

These six tape decks all night, standing up tired, sitting in the hall. My equipment was in a horse so you walk in the door. My equipment was right there at a one bedroom apartment and I would sit there and make these tapes. And the next day I would go outside and sit there on the street corner and people will say, you know, twenty hours to kick the Pretell who are you? Why would I give you twenty hours for a tape? I said, you listen to the intro of it in your car and you'll come back and buy it. Then I got gaviteed, they'll put it in the car and listen to it, come back and we get that, get that, get that, And next thing you know, my my tapes is in every car passing by in the cop cars, in the misty softy truck, people coming off the golf wall, your tapes and cigarettes is the biggest day. It became, and then my parties became infectious. They seen how I performed. And I remember I was doing LL's party one time after he did the Guard and Russell Simmons walked up and was like, Yo, what do you think about being on.

These six tape decks all night, standing up tired, sitting in the hall. My equipment was in a horse so you walk in the door. My equipment was right there at a one bedroom apartment and I would sit there and make these tapes. And the next day I would go outside and sit there on the street corner and people will say, you know, twenty hours to kick the Pretell who are you? Why would I give you twenty hours for a tape? I said, you listen to the intro of it in your car and you'll come back and buy it. Then I got gaviteed, they'll put it in the car and listen to it, come back and we get that, get that, get that, And next thing you know, my my tapes is in every car passing by in the cop cars, in the misty softy truck, people coming off the golf wall, your tapes and cigarettes is the biggest day. It became, and then my parties became infectious. They seen how I performed. And I remember I was doing LL's party one time after he did the Guard and Russell Simmons walked up and was like, Yo, what do you think about being on.

A comedy show. It's like comedy show? What we're talking about? I was like, it was Russell simmers shut up, go do it, and we ended up doing it next to you know, I'm a superstar.

A comedy show. It's like comedy show? What we're talking about? I was like, it was Russell simmers shut up, go do it, and we ended up doing it next to you know, I'm a superstar.

I didn't even see it. I didn't even I was when we were doing the show. I wasn't even seeing that far. I'm not seeing that this is going to be.

I didn't even see it. I didn't even I was when we were doing the show. I wasn't even seeing that far. I'm not seeing that this is going to be.

I'm thinking we're just doing something to have fun, you know, DJ with comedy show. That's it.

I'm thinking we're just doing something to have fun, you know, DJ with comedy show. That's it.

Studio fifty four in eighty seven. I didn't even know Studio fifty four was still around eighty seven. What records were going off back then in Studio fifty four? What were you playing?

Studio fifty four in eighty seven. I didn't even know Studio fifty four was still around eighty seven. What records were going off back then in Studio fifty four? What were you playing?

I was playing Public Enemy, playing all the Cane records, everything of that ever.

I was playing Public Enemy, playing all the Cane records, everything of that ever.

Right, That's what I'm saying.

Right, That's what I'm saying.

Hip Mop was allowed.

Hip Mop was allowed.

Wow, that's what I'm saying. See it was Levann and Louis Vega. It was all house. But Red Alert was so respected that they gave him that Wednesday was going on a tour.

Wow, that's what I'm saying. See it was Levann and Louis Vega. It was all house. But Red Alert was so respected that they gave him that Wednesday was going on a tour.

He needed somebody to cover. He knew, you know, and that's when he got me in. When I came in, they seen a whole new different ship. They seen the line going around the building down the street like it was every time I came out. It was just panemodium and I had to leave it. I didn't want to leave. I had to leave it because it got too dangerous. So you know, I ended up, and you know, and then for God, thank God, the day I said, I remember, I got Bismarck got me.

He needed somebody to cover. He knew, you know, and that's when he got me in. When I came in, they seen a whole new different ship. They seen the line going around the building down the street like it was every time I came out. It was just panemodium and I had to leave it. I didn't want to leave. I had to leave it because it got too dangerous. So you know, I ended up, and you know, and then for God, thank God, the day I said, I remember, I got Bismarck got me.

My first album deal, right, so I'm up.

My first album deal, right, so I'm up.

I'm up in the office and lady start like open these four magazines and say and said Kickie Pree the only DJ in the world to make millions of dollars off a street mixtape. I was like, wow, So I did it. I made that's you know what. I didn't want no problems right right, let me just let me just end it. And then I made the last due o this tape and that was it. And then fortunately in my career, you know, went Deaf comedy jam came out and came, tours came, and I was on my way. But the mixtape had I not sat on that corner because I got girls driving by, laughing at bequests like I'm doing bad, I'm pedaling, I'm in.

I'm up in the office and lady start like open these four magazines and say and said Kickie Pree the only DJ in the world to make millions of dollars off a street mixtape. I was like, wow, So I did it. I made that's you know what. I didn't want no problems right right, let me just let me just end it. And then I made the last due o this tape and that was it. And then fortunately in my career, you know, went Deaf comedy jam came out and came, tours came, and I was on my way. But the mixtape had I not sat on that corner because I got girls driving by, laughing at bequests like I'm doing bad, I'm pedaling, I'm in.

Harlem, you know what I'm saying, girls driving by.

Harlem, you know what I'm saying, girls driving by.

So I had to put fourteen gold chains on my neck to look like I'm doing good because I was doing something, but me not having that pride, you know, willing to sit there and take that it was the right decision.

So I had to put fourteen gold chains on my neck to look like I'm doing good because I was doing something, but me not having that pride, you know, willing to sit there and take that it was the right decision.

Okay, So you went there, and I truly wanted to know how competitive is that marketplace? Again from the outside looking in? You know, when you when you're on road trips and on tour, like you make your stop to your your local mom and pop spot and you just buy all the mixed taps and you know he's buying you and do wopping.

Okay, So you went there, and I truly wanted to know how competitive is that marketplace? Again from the outside looking in? You know, when you when you're on road trips and on tour, like you make your stop to your your local mom and pop spot and you just buy all the mixed taps and you know he's buying you and do wopping.

That's and that's all these cats, But I mean, how.

That's and that's all these cats, But I mean, how.

Heavy was the territorial competition, especially with other mixtape DJs, Like are you listening to blah blah blah mixtapes to see if he's biting your mix or like the embities with that, like is anyone else taking Stephanie Mills and putting Overpeach the president or once in a lifetime grew by new addition and you gotta go there. I know it's in sort of retrospect, but how how tense, like who is who is your main competition?

Heavy was the territorial competition, especially with other mixtape DJs, Like are you listening to blah blah blah mixtapes to see if he's biting your mix or like the embities with that, like is anyone else taking Stephanie Mills and putting Overpeach the president or once in a lifetime grew by new addition and you gotta go there. I know it's in sort of retrospect, but how how tense, like who is who is your main competition?

Then?

Then?

I had no competition when I landed. When I landed, everybody wanted to be kid Capri. Everybody wanted to do it to this day. You see, all these DJs don't disrespect as the truth. All these DJs do the kid Capri. A lot of them party DJs. They do the kid Capri the way they talk, the way they play the music, the way they look. You know, I made the DJ be an artist. I wanted to be looked at as an artist and not somebody just playing records. I wanted to be where I get on that stage next to that dude that has a platinum marble, like Kelly, I'm gonna make it hard for him to be on stage like That's what that was my focus, not just being a DJ playing records of people just looking at me like that. So that's why I took it that way, and my whole thing was, I'm gonna be better than everybody. I'm gonna give a show that they never seen. I'm gonna made people feel like they never seen. So it called on and it made DJs around the country that never spoke on the mic, never dj they never played records quick or played those type of records. See me when I come in the city and they're seeing this panemonium going on, and made them do it. So this is the way you got to do it. And the promoters will tell them you got to do it the way the pre do it, and those djas say, yo, I'm the top DJ. Why do you get kicked pre to come to town? Shut up, shut up and sit there and watch and look and pay attention.

I had no competition when I landed. When I landed, everybody wanted to be kid Capri. Everybody wanted to do it to this day. You see, all these DJs don't disrespect as the truth. All these DJs do the kid Capri. A lot of them party DJs. They do the kid Capri the way they talk, the way they play the music, the way they look. You know, I made the DJ be an artist. I wanted to be looked at as an artist and not somebody just playing records. I wanted to be where I get on that stage next to that dude that has a platinum marble, like Kelly, I'm gonna make it hard for him to be on stage like That's what that was my focus, not just being a DJ playing records of people just looking at me like that. So that's why I took it that way, and my whole thing was, I'm gonna be better than everybody. I'm gonna give a show that they never seen. I'm gonna made people feel like they never seen. So it called on and it made DJs around the country that never spoke on the mic, never dj they never played records quick or played those type of records. See me when I come in the city and they're seeing this panemonium going on, and made them do it. So this is the way you got to do it. And the promoters will tell them you got to do it the way the pre do it, and those djas say, yo, I'm the top DJ. Why do you get kicked pre to come to town? Shut up, shut up and sit there and watch and look and pay attention.

Where's that come from?

Where's that come from?

Because for me, I just started talking maybe in twenty twenty and even down twenty twenty three, I think I've waned off forty Like all right, the pandemic's over.

Because for me, I just started talking maybe in twenty twenty and even down twenty twenty three, I think I've waned off forty Like all right, the pandemic's over.

I don't have to talk as much.

I don't have to talk as much.

I'll tak my ass off on zoom like you know what I mean, Like when I'm djaying online. But you have this like bull and a China shop energy. Where does that come from? Because I feel like one of the one of the hardest battles, even without the music, is maintaining getting the respect that of a school bully, Like you're grabbing people by the collar when you're dressing them, not like, hey, guys, how are you doing today? So I'm Kickapria. No, I'm gonna play some records and I hope you enjoy it, like you're not that kind of like, So where does that come from? Where do you learn that from?

I'll tak my ass off on zoom like you know what I mean, Like when I'm djaying online. But you have this like bull and a China shop energy. Where does that come from? Because I feel like one of the one of the hardest battles, even without the music, is maintaining getting the respect that of a school bully, Like you're grabbing people by the collar when you're dressing them, not like, hey, guys, how are you doing today? So I'm Kickapria. No, I'm gonna play some records and I hope you enjoy it, like you're not that kind of like, So where does that come from? Where do you learn that from?

Like I told you, I'm a fan of it.

Like I told you, I'm a fan of it.

So it's a certain amount of keep in mind, we're looked at as DJ's that just played. DJ's looked at somebody just play records. What's gonna make me any more special than anybody else? Right, So I gotta add something that means, something that's gonna make people say, oh wait a minute, it's different. Not only that, it's just a feeling in me. Look, I had to surgery recently. Right after that the BT Awards, I had surgery. They took my thigh word out all right, right. I had shows books that I couldn't canceled. I didn't cancel the show, and I told the promoters, y'all, I'm not gonna really speak on a mac like that. While I'm on stage, you know. But then I get on there and it's a different thing. It's a feeling that I get that I want people to feel. So it comes with me screaming it.

So it's a certain amount of keep in mind, we're looked at as DJ's that just played. DJ's looked at somebody just play records. What's gonna make me any more special than anybody else? Right, So I gotta add something that means, something that's gonna make people say, oh wait a minute, it's different. Not only that, it's just a feeling in me. Look, I had to surgery recently. Right after that the BT Awards, I had surgery. They took my thigh word out all right, right. I had shows books that I couldn't canceled. I didn't cancel the show, and I told the promoters, y'all, I'm not gonna really speak on a mac like that. While I'm on stage, you know. But then I get on there and it's a different thing. It's a feeling that I get that I want people to feel. So it comes with me screaming it.

It's like I can't really explain it. It's like I gotta scream it out.

It's like I can't really explain it. It's like I gotta scream it out.

I gotta, especially when it's at that point where I know these people are gonna go so crazy. How can I make me even go that much more crazy in that instant? And it's my voice?

I gotta, especially when it's at that point where I know these people are gonna go so crazy. How can I make me even go that much more crazy in that instant? And it's my voice?

Yo?

Yo?

A question about your voice? Is that your voice on Party Groove show vis?

A question about your voice? Is that your voice on Party Groove show vis?

Yeah?

Yeah?

What are you saying?

What are you saying?

Yeah? What are you saying? Stretching?

Yeah? What are you saying? Stretching?

Ben?

Ben?

I bet you give me yoga instructions.

I bet you give me yoga instructions.

That was a live show that I did in the Powerhouse where they made.

That was a live show that I did in the Powerhouse where they made.

The Juice movie at Okay, that's the reason why they made the Juice movie there, because I made the Powerhouse hot Downtown and on the tape I would do I would make the peak like I would saying, do the bind and stretch, keeping going through the bin and go Ben. I'm making people dance, Ben and stretch in the party in the club.

The Juice movie at Okay, that's the reason why they made the Juice movie there, because I made the Powerhouse hot Downtown and on the tape I would do I would make the peak like I would saying, do the bind and stretch, keeping going through the bin and go Ben. I'm making people dance, Ben and stretch in the party in the club.

Oh wow, Okay, So I know you.

Oh wow, Okay, So I know you.

Show being sampled the mixtape record and it became the first party group record Ben and Stretch keeping going through the bin and stretching that you're Ben and Stretch.

Show being sampled the mixtape record and it became the first party group record Ben and Stretch keeping going through the bin and stretching that you're Ben and Stretch.

That's all I'm saying.

That's all I'm saying.

But everybody around the world says, yo kid, what are you saying? But it called it the way it sound made it, you know, with something sounds good, it is good, as James Brod, So they didn't know what I was saying, but it sounded good. But my record Uptown with my daughter that saw my on my album The Love that Sound, Now I did it again. I did the bend stretch on the end of that record, so it's it's it's ah And now the Zooma uses that record in there.

But everybody around the world says, yo kid, what are you saying? But it called it the way it sound made it, you know, with something sounds good, it is good, as James Brod, So they didn't know what I was saying, but it sounded good. But my record Uptown with my daughter that saw my on my album The Love that Sound, Now I did it again. I did the bend stretch on the end of that record, so it's it's it's ah And now the Zooma uses that record in there.

Zoomba. Uh, it's crazy except me your video the whole super.

Zoomba. Uh, it's crazy except me your video the whole super.

Class big super Class dances the Uptown So that many Stretch definitely worked.

Class big super Class dances the Uptown So that many Stretch definitely worked.

Out James and made Booker's is the big biggest thing.

Out James and made Booker's is the big biggest thing.

Yeah, why is that record?

Yeah, why is that record?

When we when we interviewed him.

When we when we interviewed him.

Got me rest in peace, got rest and so yeah.

Got me rest in peace, got rest and so yeah.

What was it?

What was it?

First of all, did you produce that on Grandpoop's record? Yeah, of course you did. Like I'm trying to do the math in my head because even when I got the record, I'm like, what I listened to this soundtrack to even know that, and it's so unusual.

First of all, did you produce that on Grandpoop's record? Yeah, of course you did. Like I'm trying to do the math in my head because even when I got the record, I'm like, what I listened to this soundtrack to even know that, and it's so unusual.

It's a very unusual break that it's not.

It's a very unusual break that it's not.

It's not a substitution.

It's not a substitution.

Yeah, yeah, it's such a weird it works.

Yeah, yeah, it's such a weird it works.

But even then I was just like, wait a minute, why would he sample it?

But even then I was just like, wait a minute, why would he sample it?

What?

What?

What is your relationship to to biggest theme?

What is your relationship to to biggest theme?

Uh?

Uh?

It was just a dope joke that I think I heard Blousy had played it one time.

It was just a dope joke that I think I heard Blousy had played it one time.

Blucy b Yeah, I think I heard Blucy played it with rock Kim Dad. What did I hear to that? I heard I think Boosey played it.

Blucy b Yeah, I think I heard Blucy played it with rock Kim Dad. What did I hear to that? I heard I think Boosey played it.

And you know, we would take like all right, perfect example, like mister me Forster Silver that record made in nineteen seventy two, the record was over there with made It Hot, made the top, you know all these records that was over As a matter of fact, Take six I put. I put Spread Love on that tape and Take six in twenty twenty reached out to me kid, he said, Yo, we made that record for the gospel people. You put that record on your tape and put us on the worldwide tour, so we want you to remix the song. I did a remix of Spread Love with takes six in twenty twenty. It's called Spread Love twenty twenty. This shit is crazy, the beats, the drumk is crazy.

And you know, we would take like all right, perfect example, like mister me Forster Silver that record made in nineteen seventy two, the record was over there with made It Hot, made the top, you know all these records that was over As a matter of fact, Take six I put. I put Spread Love on that tape and Take six in twenty twenty reached out to me kid, he said, Yo, we made that record for the gospel people. You put that record on your tape and put us on the worldwide tour, so we want you to remix the song. I did a remix of Spread Love with takes six in twenty twenty. It's called Spread Love twenty twenty. This shit is crazy, the beats, the drumk is crazy.

Everything.

Everything.

So they they they were so they had so much gratitude would be putting it on them that they came back and asked me to produce that.

So they they they were so they had so much gratitude would be putting it on them that they came back and asked me to produce that.

I was so happy for that, But you're.

I was so happy for that, But you're.

The one that's responsible for that. Spread Love mixed with I Cantina Turn a Break Under.

The one that's responsible for that. Spread Love mixed with I Cantina Turn a Break Under.

That's forty five K. I did a real.

That's forty five K. I did a real.

Remix for Thrill John.

Remix for Thrill John.

Okay, okay, okay, keep in mind that record. It really had nothing to do with what else was on the tape. It was like.

Okay, okay, okay, keep in mind that record. It really had nothing to do with what else was on the tape. It was like.

Everything else on the different, so far away from everything else. But that's what I'm trying to say. I go by what is hot, what is good, and it doesn't have to make sense. It'll makes sense after I make it make sense. I think like that, like it don't happen. If you listen to my show on Serious Sex, Some Fly the Block Party, you hear Young and Me and here Al Green. After you hear, you know what I'm saying, Like you never know what you're gonna hear, And that's what makes it so so.

Everything else on the different, so far away from everything else. But that's what I'm trying to say. I go by what is hot, what is good, and it doesn't have to make sense. It'll makes sense after I make it make sense. I think like that, like it don't happen. If you listen to my show on Serious Sex, Some Fly the Block Party, you hear Young and Me and here Al Green. After you hear, you know what I'm saying, Like you never know what you're gonna hear, And that's what makes it so so.

Yeah, yeah, there you go.

Yeah, yeah, there you go.

You know, you're you're like the king of the mashup to me marrying you know, worlds of stuff. So what do you consider like your signature mix that that is exclusively, exclusively yours, And what do you consider the mix that like the first time he did it, the entire crowd with ape shit, like what the.

You know, you're you're like the king of the mashup to me marrying you know, worlds of stuff. So what do you consider like your signature mix that that is exclusively, exclusively yours, And what do you consider the mix that like the first time he did it, the entire crowd with ape shit, like what the.

Fuck is that we could go? We go up to something the way you make me feel with the piece of President that changed the whole Army be game. Now you had to make bondb records with Breakbeast.

Fuck is that we could go? We go up to something the way you make me feel with the piece of President that changed the whole Army be game. Now you had to make bondb records with Breakbeast.

That's how Mary and all these things came about because nobody heard it that way before, you know what I'm saying, and it just changed the whole game.

That's how Mary and all these things came about because nobody heard it that way before, you know what I'm saying, and it just changed the whole game.

So that was one of the things. But there's so many things.

So that was one of the things. But there's so many things.

Let me just let our listeners know that yes, both and Mary credit you when they heard that Stephanie Mills something the way you make me feel a cappella, which is unusual to be on a twelve inch like you know, the idea of an R and B a cappella.

Let me just let our listeners know that yes, both and Mary credit you when they heard that Stephanie Mills something the way you make me feel a cappella, which is unusual to be on a twelve inch like you know, the idea of an R and B a cappella.

At that time, right, very unusual.

At that time, right, very unusual.

So instantly, I you know, we're sparks going on in your head, Like yo, what the hell, like I can do anything with this or the.

So instantly, I you know, we're sparks going on in your head, Like yo, what the hell, like I can do anything with this or the.

Full circle was when me and Stephanie did it live. I remember you came with the me ucl kid.

Full circle was when me and Stephanie did it live. I remember you came with the me ucl kid.

I was hip hop.

I was hip hop.

Tell that story of how you got something to do it with you.

Tell that story of how you got something to do it with you.

What happened was I've been doing Indiana Black Explode with Ann Paris, the promoter for twenty something years every year. An Paris now manages Stephanie Mills, so I was doing a show for him out there in Indiana. He told Stephanie Mills the story about what I did with the record, and he had her coming to Indiana without me knowing. So I was on stage, she was right there and he' said, yo, little steph, I bought Stephi out here for you.

What happened was I've been doing Indiana Black Explode with Ann Paris, the promoter for twenty something years every year. An Paris now manages Stephanie Mills, so I was doing a show for him out there in Indiana. He told Stephanie Mills the story about what I did with the record, and he had her coming to Indiana without me knowing. So I was on stage, she was right there and he' said, yo, little steph, I bought Stephi out here for you.

I was like talking about she came out. I never met her.

I was like talking about she came out. I never met her.

She didn't know nothing about what was going on until we told her she had this big shit reck. She knew what her record was to her, but in the street she had no idea what was going on. So when we did it then, it wasn't rehearsed. Like I said, I never met her. It was my first time meeting up and we did that shit on the spot. And if you remember, she was going to keep going, and I stopped. I said, that's it, that's all I need.

She didn't know nothing about what was going on until we told her she had this big shit reck. She knew what her record was to her, but in the street she had no idea what was going on. So when we did it then, it wasn't rehearsed. Like I said, I never met her. It was my first time meeting up and we did that shit on the spot. And if you remember, she was going to keep going, and I stopped. I said, that's it, that's all I need.

I'm good.

I'm good.

I felt like be stopping up and it being short would make more of an impact than me having to do the whole thing. That's just the way I thought at the time. But just her being there with me and seeing a visuated. When I touched your heart, I know I did something when you when you rolled up on me a jazzy Jeff's cuip. He was like, okay, that right there. When you said that, I was like, yeah, I did something.

I felt like be stopping up and it being short would make more of an impact than me having to do the whole thing. That's just the way I thought at the time. But just her being there with me and seeing a visuated. When I touched your heart, I know I did something when you when you rolled up on me a jazzy Jeff's cuip. He was like, okay, that right there. When you said that, I was like, yeah, I did something.

Questions reserve. You don't say too much, you know, so if you say something.

Questions reserve. You don't say too much, you know, so if you say something.

It's like, I'm excited about stuff. I'm excited about stuff. What would you consider you're what's a hard market? Have you ever met a marketplace in which they're like.

It's like, I'm excited about stuff. I'm excited about stuff. What would you consider you're what's a hard market? Have you ever met a marketplace in which they're like.

Like down South for instance?

Like down South for instance?

Really every crowd I get into, I whip it down.

Really every crowd I get into, I whip it down.

That's what I do, no matter where it's at, no matter what what the situation is. Because my whole attitude was, know what's going on in that city that city. Don't care about what's going on in New York. They care about what's going on in that city. So find a DJ that's there. Find out what's going on, and when he when he tells you what's going on, you know what's going on. Bringing that DJ out, show the respect to that DJ and put him on stage and let everybody know this is just this city's DJ. You know what I'm saying. You were a guess in their house. And with that, all the information from different places were coming to me. I would stay on top of what's going on over here, what's going on with this side of the country.

That's what I do, no matter where it's at, no matter what what the situation is. Because my whole attitude was, know what's going on in that city that city. Don't care about what's going on in New York. They care about what's going on in that city. So find a DJ that's there. Find out what's going on, and when he when he tells you what's going on, you know what's going on. Bringing that DJ out, show the respect to that DJ and put him on stage and let everybody know this is just this city's DJ. You know what I'm saying. You were a guess in their house. And with that, all the information from different places were coming to me. I would stay on top of what's going on over here, what's going on with this side of the country.

I was. It was just the way I did things.

I was. It was just the way I did things.

And with me doing that, with me going to experience it and do it, it made me learn how to stay do it everywhere else.

And with me doing that, with me going to experience it and do it, it made me learn how to stay do it everywhere else.

So I never had a.

So I never had a.

Got booed, never a crowd walked out on me, never been a thing where people wasn't happy or somebody says some crazy shit in the crowd or through something that never been under that.

Got booed, never a crowd walked out on me, never been a thing where people wasn't happy or somebody says some crazy shit in the crowd or through something that never been under that.

It always been people happy. And I'm blessed.

It always been people happy. And I'm blessed.

I'm very happy for that, very blessed in that way for that to happen, because, like I said, I'm a fan of it, and I know how I want to feel. If I paid my money, I gotta drive to get there. If I have a car, I gotta buy clothes to wear to be there. I gotta pay to get in. I gotta buy drinks. If somebody's gonna buy them a drinking I'm mor.

I'm very happy for that, very blessed in that way for that to happen, because, like I said, I'm a fan of it, and I know how I want to feel. If I paid my money, I gotta drive to get there. If I have a car, I gotta buy clothes to wear to be there. I gotta pay to get in. I gotta buy drinks. If somebody's gonna buy them a drinking I'm mor.

I might have had to hire a babysit or something too, Like you.

I might have had to hire a babysit or something too, Like you.

Know what all these things I got to do because kicking freeze in the building. How do I not get the best I can get it? You know what I'm saying? Like I think like that. And then there's a reverse two way. People don't think about what you had to do to get to the event. If you had traffic, lost your bags, you know, did you eat? Are you sick? Do you feel? All they do is the end RESULTE I wanted, I want my show. I went what I paid for. I paid for that. They don't know nothing, So it works both ways.

Know what all these things I got to do because kicking freeze in the building. How do I not get the best I can get it? You know what I'm saying? Like I think like that. And then there's a reverse two way. People don't think about what you had to do to get to the event. If you had traffic, lost your bags, you know, did you eat? Are you sick? Do you feel? All they do is the end RESULTE I wanted, I want my show. I went what I paid for. I paid for that. They don't know nothing, So it works both ways.

There is a moment in two thousand.

There is a moment in two thousand.

There was a moment in two thousand and five in which, for the very first time, I played the horn intro to Troy and I didn't get that scream yeah, like you know what happens when you play that intro when you used to play the intro, Like the choice is yours and you know for the longest, Like one of my signature things would be like play Troy right after like scenario who's that ramp in a place like start high fiving and crying and hugging. And there was a moment where that didn't happen and I was like, oh shit, I gotta adjust it and adjust fact like I never had a quiet Troy moment in my life. How long did it take you to really truly adjust to be in an open format DJ and like embrace things because you know, as open minded as I would like our listeners to think I am. You know, and I've explained this before on the show that as an individual course, we know that we have our opinions of what good music is and what bad music is. But then as a DJ, I have opinion on what is effective for my DJ set and not effective for my DJ set, And oftentimes with those four things good, bad, effective, non effective, Like what's effective for my DJ sets now is stuff that I personally wouldn't listen to, but I know works for my set. Right, So you know, there's like maybe a year or two where I just wrestled with damn, do I just or do I just like fight and only play to my audience? Like?

There was a moment in two thousand and five in which, for the very first time, I played the horn intro to Troy and I didn't get that scream yeah, like you know what happens when you play that intro when you used to play the intro, Like the choice is yours and you know for the longest, Like one of my signature things would be like play Troy right after like scenario who's that ramp in a place like start high fiving and crying and hugging. And there was a moment where that didn't happen and I was like, oh shit, I gotta adjust it and adjust fact like I never had a quiet Troy moment in my life. How long did it take you to really truly adjust to be in an open format DJ and like embrace things because you know, as open minded as I would like our listeners to think I am. You know, and I've explained this before on the show that as an individual course, we know that we have our opinions of what good music is and what bad music is. But then as a DJ, I have opinion on what is effective for my DJ set and not effective for my DJ set, And oftentimes with those four things good, bad, effective, non effective, Like what's effective for my DJ sets now is stuff that I personally wouldn't listen to, but I know works for my set. Right, So you know, there's like maybe a year or two where I just wrestled with damn, do I just or do I just like fight and only play to my audience? Like?

How long did it take you.

How long did it take you.

To just start adjusting to a new atmosphere and new generations.

To just start adjusting to a new atmosphere and new generations.

There's plenty of records I hate that I play that only but it's not about me, you're saying, it's about that boom and you know, so that right there automatically makes you know that you have to step out of your own personal feeling and adjust to what they want, because that's the end result. A lot of DJ sometimes they missed the mark because they feel like they don't like this record, so it shouldn't be played at the end of the day. You know, Like I said that stuff that I might play that I don't. I don't really care for much to but I see, but I'll see a crowd go crazy to it, and it'll make me like it. I might not even like the song the first but once I see a crowd lose it, lose it to it, it'll make me say, all right, well, I could adjust to it all.

There's plenty of records I hate that I play that only but it's not about me, you're saying, it's about that boom and you know, so that right there automatically makes you know that you have to step out of your own personal feeling and adjust to what they want, because that's the end result. A lot of DJ sometimes they missed the mark because they feel like they don't like this record, so it shouldn't be played at the end of the day. You know, Like I said that stuff that I might play that I don't. I don't really care for much to but I see, but I'll see a crowd go crazy to it, and it'll make me like it. I might not even like the song the first but once I see a crowd lose it, lose it to it, it'll make me say, all right, well, I could adjust to it all.

You know, it will make me lacking in some kind of way.

You know, it will make me lacking in some kind of way.

But let me ask you, and I'll let's use an example from twenty five years ago, so you don't have to be like now, like man, fuck ice, spice or whatever. I don't know, is there an album. That is there a song that you acknowledge as a classic now that maybe twenty five years ago you were like, I'm not feeling this like it took you long to like adjust to it.

But let me ask you, and I'll let's use an example from twenty five years ago, so you don't have to be like now, like man, fuck ice, spice or whatever. I don't know, is there an album. That is there a song that you acknowledge as a classic now that maybe twenty five years ago you were like, I'm not feeling this like it took you long to like adjust to it.

Biggie Biggie Biggie. You don't like half the times loved it. I hated the hook.

Biggie Biggie Biggie. You don't like half the times loved it. I hated the hook.

You known mean it was a smart hook.

You known mean it was a smart hook.

I hated the hook at first. At first, I couldn't stand the hook. Biggie Biggie Biggie. I just couldn't stay. I just didn't like it. But the record was dope. The loop, you know.

I hated the hook at first. At first, I couldn't stand the hook. Biggie Biggie Biggie. I just couldn't stay. I just didn't like it. But the record was dope. The loop, you know.

You know what I'm saying. The record was dope.

You know what I'm saying. The record was dope.

So and then after I guess you hear it a certain way, I didn't you start like Then after a while I was like, ah yeah. But at first it was like, damn All should have did a different hook. But I was wrong.

So and then after I guess you hear it a certain way, I didn't you start like Then after a while I was like, ah yeah. But at first it was like, damn All should have did a different hook. But I was wrong.

It was effective.

It was effective.

It was effective, you know.

It was effective, you know.

It was sometimes a lot of times I guess what's going to be a hit.

It was sometimes a lot of times I guess what's going to be a hit.

But you know, I'm not a robot.

But you know, I'm not a robot.

Sometime I missed you know what I'm saying, or you know, I like listen, but sometimes I missed it. You see what it is, you know, But me and you would have never made a Laughy Taffy beat. We would have never wrote that, not that it's bad for them, we would have never did that.

Sometime I missed you know what I'm saying, or you know, I like listen, but sometimes I missed it. You see what it is, you know, But me and you would have never made a Laughy Taffy beat. We would have never wrote that, not that it's bad for them, we would have never did that.

We would have probably passed it on it.

We would have probably passed it on it.

But look front of it on Laughy Taffy for its initial run.

But look front of it on Laughy Taffy for its initial run.

Right, and it's a classic.

Right, and it's a classic.

Now.

Now.

When I was gonna say I played Laughing Taffy the first time I did the goal party for the Carters, I was like, all right, let me reach into my second generation Southern bag that I would have otherwise ignored on my own gigs, right, and just the way that they were going to ape shit about it, I was like, yo, I was wrong.

When I was gonna say I played Laughing Taffy the first time I did the goal party for the Carters, I was like, all right, let me reach into my second generation Southern bag that I would have otherwise ignored on my own gigs, right, and just the way that they were going to ape shit about it, I was like, yo, I was wrong.

Like if I played Laughy Taffy the snock records, they lose, they got theirn mind. It don't matter what age it is, you know what I'm saying, because it was just that time and moment.

Like if I played Laughy Taffy the snock records, they lose, they got theirn mind. It don't matter what age it is, you know what I'm saying, because it was just that time and moment.

You know what I'm saying.

You know what I'm saying.

And most dance records like that, boarded down records for some reason, it just works.

And most dance records like that, boarded down records for some reason, it just works.

Or you went there briefly.

Or you went there briefly.

But of course your tenure with I mean, would you consider yourself a Juice Cup member or no?

But of course your tenure with I mean, would you consider yourself a Juice Cup member or no?

Okay, I just saw cold Chilling Bear's got me.

Okay, I just saw cold Chilling Bear's got me.

Granddaddy, I you and business brother Domonchelle a production Uh.

Granddaddy, I you and business brother Domonchelle a production Uh.

He had a production deal. And it was crazy.

He had a production deal. And it was crazy.

Because when Ben's got me that day, I wasn't even looking for our deal. I wasn't even thinking about our deal. And remember I was leaving studio fifty four. Bez pulled up on me with the car right on the corner and he said, OK, we'll get you out and deal. I said, shut up, shut up. So then one day he came in. They seen me on a rutker. Matter of fact, the day that he pulled up on me a rutcker, he said, kid, come here, cook here, I'm gonna show you something. And he played you, god, what our seal beers you bucket? You really gonna put this out? That's what I said, you really gonna put this out?

Because when Ben's got me that day, I wasn't even looking for our deal. I wasn't even thinking about our deal. And remember I was leaving studio fifty four. Bez pulled up on me with the car right on the corner and he said, OK, we'll get you out and deal. I said, shut up, shut up. So then one day he came in. They seen me on a rutker. Matter of fact, the day that he pulled up on me a rutcker, he said, kid, come here, cook here, I'm gonna show you something. And he played you, god, what our seal beers you bucket? You really gonna put this out? That's what I said, you really gonna put this out?

He was like what what? And he put the record out. We on tour, We go crowd losing their bodies.

He was like what what? And he put the record out. We on tour, We go crowd losing their bodies.

I was playing, yo, pull it off, and it worked and he got me by deal. Like I said, even worked the deal. You gotta be the deal because I was hot. He could have gave that deal to anybody else that was a real rapper.

I was playing, yo, pull it off, and it worked and he got me by deal. Like I said, even worked the deal. You gotta be the deal because I was hot. He could have gave that deal to anybody else that was a real rapper.

You know what I'm saying. I was robbing on the record of the tape.

You know what I'm saying. I was robbing on the record of the tape.

So I was trying to be a rapper, like even with bib about right now, I'm not trying to be a rap on stage.

So I was trying to be a rapper, like even with bib about right now, I'm not trying to be a rap on stage.

I just want for music in the world. But at the time, you.

I just want for music in the world. But at the time, you.

Know, he could have gave that to somebody that really really was good, you know what I'm saying.

Know, he could have gave that to somebody that really really was good, you know what I'm saying.

But he he you know, he really gave it to be And I've always gonna be a dead or to day. I really appreciated that.

But he he you know, he really gave it to be And I've always gonna be a dead or to day. I really appreciated that.

You know, have you dj' for I don't want to say a pedestrian rapper, but I mean, I know you are Kick Capri like you DJ your own, but have you done any any tenures with like at NMC that needs like I know a few times like Biggie. We'll go back and forth on DJ's and whatnot.

You know, have you dj' for I don't want to say a pedestrian rapper, but I mean, I know you are Kick Capri like you DJ your own, but have you done any any tenures with like at NMC that needs like I know a few times like Biggie. We'll go back and forth on DJ's and whatnot.

Pinny me Joy was me and rock Kim did this tour. Oh okay, this was a crazy tour me and rock Kim did. When I went on tours Salt Pepper, That's right, you were DJ DJ for Salt Pepper, DJ for KIPT played the very first tour the Public Getting Be Greatest Hip Hop Show tour.

Pinny me Joy was me and rock Kim did this tour. Oh okay, this was a crazy tour me and rock Kim did. When I went on tours Salt Pepper, That's right, you were DJ DJ for Salt Pepper, DJ for KIPT played the very first tour the Public Getting Be Greatest Hip Hop Show tour.

It was thirteen groups on that tour. I was helping him on that, but.

It was thirteen groups on that tour. I was helping him on that, but.

I never really played behind a lot of people KRS one of course, but not really a whole lot of people because people always looked at me as a one man band. I guess, I guess that's what it is. I guess the perception is that he didn't he don't want to play for nobody behind you know, behind nobody.

I never really played behind a lot of people KRS one of course, but not really a whole lot of people because people always looked at me as a one man band. I guess, I guess that's what it is. I guess the perception is that he didn't he don't want to play for nobody behind you know, behind nobody.

So but yeah, but.

So but yeah, but.

When I went on tour with them, I didn't play behind him. But I went on tour with them as a matter of fact. But Jennifer Lopez, she wanted to be behind it. Like there's a lot of people that reached out. It just didn't work out because of the time. I felt like if me and Kendrick Lamar would have went on tour together, you know the Political Ward album you put me on ask the only hip hop album want the Polical Water.

When I went on tour with them, I didn't play behind him. But I went on tour with them as a matter of fact. But Jennifer Lopez, she wanted to be behind it. Like there's a lot of people that reached out. It just didn't work out because of the time. I felt like if me and Kendrick Lamar would have went on tour together, you know the Political Ward album you put me on ask the only hip hop album want the Polical Water.

Deeply Gready put me in voice. He put my voices in place around the country I've never been to. So I'm deeply and grady for that, grateful for that and loved the fact that he did that.

Deeply Gready put me in voice. He put my voices in place around the country I've never been to. So I'm deeply and grady for that, grateful for that and loved the fact that he did that.

And when I was in the studio with my ass and I said, Yo, you could have got DJ Battlecat or you know, DJ Pooh. These dudes A legends, you could have got them on the album The West Coast, you know. He was like, yo, I love the dudes and everything. He was like, but I know what you did for the music business. I know what you did for DJs.

And when I was in the studio with my ass and I said, Yo, you could have got DJ Battlecat or you know, DJ Pooh. These dudes A legends, you could have got them on the album The West Coast, you know. He was like, yo, I love the dudes and everything. He was like, but I know what you did for the music business. I know what you did for DJs.

I know what you did. I wanted that authenticity on this album. I was like, Wow, he really knew who he was, so I didn't have to really explain that. He would have got it and he put me on that album.

I know what you did. I wanted that authenticity on this album. I was like, Wow, he really knew who he was, so I didn't have to really explain that. He would have got it and he put me on that album.

And how crazy was the effect afterwards?

And how crazy was the effect afterwards?

Amazing? Man, I couldn't believe it. It was like it was crazy, you know.

Amazing? Man, I couldn't believe it. It was like it was crazy, you know.

And keep in mind he brought me to There might be kids that don't know about kicking. Pree never had any kicking pre spad. I don't know nothing about me. He brought me to those people, you know what I'm saying. Like I said, he put my voices in countries I never been to. It's the Poliza album like it never no ever, no other hip hop album ever in history.

And keep in mind he brought me to There might be kids that don't know about kicking. Pree never had any kicking pre spad. I don't know nothing about me. He brought me to those people, you know what I'm saying. Like I said, he put my voices in countries I never been to. It's the Poliza album like it never no ever, no other hip hop album ever in history.

This is a milestone. So she could have did so much more, like going on toward with each other. And he didn't need me, of course, because you know he is what he did been me and him together just doing certain things it would have been, it'd have been special. So but like I said, he's already special, So it was all good.

This is a milestone. So she could have did so much more, like going on toward with each other. And he didn't need me, of course, because you know he is what he did been me and him together just doing certain things it would have been, it'd have been special. So but like I said, he's already special, So it was all good.

Cake.

Cake.

You talking about your transition into the production game.

You talking about your transition into the production game.

I was always making beats. My first album that Biz got me. It says biz production. Biz produced it. But I produced the album Being Coolie. And then I produced the soundtrack the Streets album with Jay and did that whole album. And then I just did this album that the Love Album, The Love Album in the pandemic. I'm seeing a lot of ship to stuff that I was a lot of agree with it. I said, you know what, let me just do something different and I won't slack key and came out good. I recorded it, goveled my hair on my shoulders and said keep going. So I just said him doing the album, I put slack key out of How did I get the response? I want to dabble with a never see the out light a day, But it was good response and I put down the mouth. Great response and have a guy work complained about it. A lot of different artists snoopid, different people will call congratulated. Nobody seen this coming because of robbing on it. My last album is twenty four years ago. You know, music business is different. I had everything against me with this album, but I didn't I didn't care about that. I just wanted to put it out, and you know, it worked out. But yeah, it's gotta keep going with it.

I was always making beats. My first album that Biz got me. It says biz production. Biz produced it. But I produced the album Being Coolie. And then I produced the soundtrack the Streets album with Jay and did that whole album. And then I just did this album that the Love Album, The Love Album in the pandemic. I'm seeing a lot of ship to stuff that I was a lot of agree with it. I said, you know what, let me just do something different and I won't slack key and came out good. I recorded it, goveled my hair on my shoulders and said keep going. So I just said him doing the album, I put slack key out of How did I get the response? I want to dabble with a never see the out light a day, But it was good response and I put down the mouth. Great response and have a guy work complained about it. A lot of different artists snoopid, different people will call congratulated. Nobody seen this coming because of robbing on it. My last album is twenty four years ago. You know, music business is different. I had everything against me with this album, but I didn't I didn't care about that. I just wanted to put it out, and you know, it worked out. But yeah, it's gotta keep going with it.

I wanted to ask you, particularly about Nothing Belove Heavy, du Do you remember what do you remember about that session working with him?

I wanted to ask you, particularly about Nothing Belove Heavy, du Do you remember what do you remember about that session working with him?

Nothing Beloved was a different beat, and when we were in the studio, I just said it didn't match what I was trying to do with him. So I changed it, and I went in my bag and pulled out the eight Games and put the A Games on the band, put the drums, and then he caught right his block and he couldn't write. He couldn't write, so did so I wrote to half. I wrote half of the second verse, and I wrote I wrote half of the second version. I wrote the last verse, and then we end up doing the record and then the c CNY tragedy happened.

Nothing Beloved was a different beat, and when we were in the studio, I just said it didn't match what I was trying to do with him. So I changed it, and I went in my bag and pulled out the eight Games and put the A Games on the band, put the drums, and then he caught right his block and he couldn't write. He couldn't write, so did so I wrote to half. I wrote half of the second verse, and I wrote I wrote half of the second version. I wrote the last verse, and then we end up doing the record and then the c CNY tragedy happened.

But the nine people died. One of my friends, Jule, he was one of the people that passed away.

But the nine people died. One of my friends, Jule, he was one of the people that passed away.

You were there at TCN one No, my daughter's mother, she was there.

You were there at TCN one No, my daughter's mother, she was there.

She was putting bodies out. She pulled father MC's daughter's mother father MC's girl who was pregnant at the time, and she passed away. She pulled her out. Oh no, wow, yeah, you my friend.

She was putting bodies out. She pulled father MC's daughter's mother father MC's girl who was pregnant at the time, and she passed away. She pulled her out. Oh no, wow, yeah, you my friend.

He was the only dude there was only there's only two castles in New York, one of Yonder's, one on my block and my block kings with Terraces, where they made the movie The Wanderer was at. So you look, if you wish to watch the movie The Waders, you'll see my block. The wrong king was Terrice. This capsule he lived in. He was twenty five years old. Ever had sex. He was waited until you had the a wife before he had sex. And he was killed in this CCN wide thing. And I remember Heavy d had to show with the Garden and he was because he had something to do with the event. He just wasn't there, but he was one of the promoters and he had explained it and he was like, yo, I'm not going to take responsibility, but I feel bad of what happened.

He was the only dude there was only there's only two castles in New York, one of Yonder's, one on my block and my block kings with Terraces, where they made the movie The Wanderer was at. So you look, if you wish to watch the movie The Waders, you'll see my block. The wrong king was Terrice. This capsule he lived in. He was twenty five years old. Ever had sex. He was waited until you had the a wife before he had sex. And he was killed in this CCN wide thing. And I remember Heavy d had to show with the Garden and he was because he had something to do with the event. He just wasn't there, but he was one of the promoters and he had explained it and he was like, yo, I'm not going to take responsibility, but I feel bad of what happened.

Tell everybody back.

Tell everybody back.

I beloved for the crowd, and he dropped up beloved and the crowd lost their Goddamn.

I beloved for the crowd, and he dropped up beloved and the crowd lost their Goddamn.

I was standing right that or the stage. The crowd lost it. That's what I do.

I was standing right that or the stage. The crowd lost it. That's what I do.

I gave it his last hit is a big hit. That was his biggest that was his last hit record before he passed away.

I gave it his last hit is a big hit. That was his biggest that was his last hit record before he passed away.

Damn, I know you did that. Damn that's crazy.

Damn, I know you did that. Damn that's crazy.

Yep.

Yep.

The first time I saw you spend, you would come to the event with like at least eight crates, fifteen the level yep that I've never seen, the dizzying level of how you would organize records or whatever.

The first time I saw you spend, you would come to the event with like at least eight crates, fifteen the level yep that I've never seen, the dizzying level of how you would organize records or whatever.

That's why with Jeff Jazzy, Jeff would try to convince me to be on Serato and.

That's why with Jeff Jazzy, Jeff would try to convince me to be on Serato and.

That was hard to make that transition.

That was hard to make that transition.

That's what I'm saying.

That's what I'm saying.

I like the fact that I had fifteen crates and I would wanted to crate catch the record at the last second it dropped the needle way and it just looked crazy to the crowd. So I thought if I got rid of that and went to the computer, it wouldn't be that same excitement. And Jeff will always say, Okay, got.

I like the fact that I had fifteen crates and I would wanted to crate catch the record at the last second it dropped the needle way and it just looked crazy to the crowd. So I thought if I got rid of that and went to the computer, it wouldn't be that same excitement. And Jeff will always say, Okay, got.

It, go on the computer. You got to do. You know what I'm saying. Savado shit.

It, go on the computer. You got to do. You know what I'm saying. Savado shit.

So you relate to the Serado game.

So you relate to the Serado game.

Oh yeah, okay, I ain't started Surroado game this whole six so death Comedy Jam came back and Mike EPs was host, and they asked me if I will produce the beats on Deaf Comedy Jam because they didn't want to clear the death Jam records right, So I produced all the beats that how do I play? Put it in Soroader. I put the beats of Sovado and I did the show. Then I started putting the break piece of Soroader. Now I put the reggae records. Now I put the old for reggae. Next thing, you know, every day was a Soroado. Got read the records and now I was good. And then I see the crowds and in my show still reacting the same way when I had the records, So I was good.

Oh yeah, okay, I ain't started Surroado game this whole six so death Comedy Jam came back and Mike EPs was host, and they asked me if I will produce the beats on Deaf Comedy Jam because they didn't want to clear the death Jam records right, So I produced all the beats that how do I play? Put it in Soroader. I put the beats of Sovado and I did the show. Then I started putting the break piece of Soroader. Now I put the reggae records. Now I put the old for reggae. Next thing, you know, every day was a Soroado. Got read the records and now I was good. And then I see the crowds and in my show still reacting the same way when I had the records, So I was good.

How irksome is it for you to watch any of the retro Deaf Comedy Jam shows? And like, for me, the best part of the show is when you start doing the ll breakdown thing. And you know, of course when it came on DVD and now that it's streaming and even on YouTube, you know, they put like interstitial music over it, like so you're trying to imagine what they're dancing to you.

How irksome is it for you to watch any of the retro Deaf Comedy Jam shows? And like, for me, the best part of the show is when you start doing the ll breakdown thing. And you know, of course when it came on DVD and now that it's streaming and even on YouTube, you know, they put like interstitial music over it, like so you're trying to imagine what they're dancing to you.

I can't stand it. I hate it. I hate it's it's it's the claims is it's the money, it's you know, it's a lot of money.

I can't stand it. I hate it. I hate it's it's it's the claims is it's the money, it's you know, it's a lot of money.

You would think that they death jam records. It would be all right for deaf comedy jam to playing.

You would think that they death jam records. It would be all right for deaf comedy jam to playing.

But I thought that way. They don't go that way.

But I thought that way. They don't go that way.

It's whoever was a publisher. You know, you got to go through all that ship. And some people are just beaty. Some people want what they want and they don't see the bigger picture, so they're eliminated. I was making the beats and you got gut around it.

It's whoever was a publisher. You know, you got to go through all that ship. And some people are just beaty. Some people want what they want and they don't see the bigger picture, so they're eliminated. I was making the beats and you got gut around it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I was going to say, there's there's one comedian that I, if I recall correctly, like he made you part of the act.

I was going to say, there's there's one comedian that I, if I recall correctly, like he made you part of the act.

This brother named Talent. It's just come.

This brother named Talent. It's just come.

That's kind of crazy.

That's kind of crazy.

But Talent would do this thing where he would have a scenario and needed a soundtrack to it, and he would have you play the record and then he would do the scenario. All right, we wand we want to kick it all right now, this scenario is blah blah blah, and I can never find and it's one of the funniest things ever. And I wish I could find that original. But because of music clearance issues, you know, people don't.

But Talent would do this thing where he would have a scenario and needed a soundtrack to it, and he would have you play the record and then he would do the scenario. All right, we wand we want to kick it all right now, this scenario is blah blah blah, and I can never find and it's one of the funniest things ever. And I wish I could find that original. But because of music clearance issues, you know, people don't.

Get so much footage from us on the road. Me and Bernie. Bernie was like my uncle.