What does it really mean to be “included” — and why isn’t inclusion enough?

In this episode of ¿Qué Pasa Boston?, Gabriela Salas sits down with Dr. Tiffany Joseph, sociologist, TED Talk speaker, and author of Not All Black and White: Affirmative Action, Immigration, and the Politics of Racial Equity. Dr. Joseph’s groundbreaking research across the Dominican Republic, Brazil, and the United States reveals a hard truth: diversity programs and inclusion language often mask deep, structural failures — especially in healthcare access for Black and Latino communities.

This is a conversation for everyone who has ever felt like the system wasn’t built for them — because according to Dr. Joseph’s research, it wasn’t.

In this episode, Gabriela and Dr. Joseph discuss:
What her comparative research in the DR and Brazil revealed about race, identity, and access that the U.S. refuses to confront
Why “diversity” and “inclusion” are not the same as equity — and who gets left behind
The real barriers Latino and immigrant communities face when trying to access quality healthcare
What her viral TED Talk gets right about structural inequality
How policy, language, and identity intersect to either open or close doors for our communities
What needs to change — and what you can do right now

¿Por qué importa este episodio? Porque nuestra comunidad merece más que promesas. Dr. Joseph nos da el lenguaje y los datos para exigir lo que nos corresponde.

 

🎧 ¿Qué Pasa Boston? airs Sundays on Rumba 97.7 and JAMN 94.5 — part of the iHeartRadio network. Hosted by Gabriela Salas, Boston’s trusted voice for the Latino community.

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What does it really mean to be &ldquo;included&rdquo; &mdash; and why isn&rsquo;t inclusion enough?
In this episode of &iquest;Qu&eacute; Pasa Boston?, Gabriela Salas sits down with Dr. Tiffany Joseph, sociologist, TED Talk speaker, and author of Not All Black and White: Affirmative Action, Immigration, and the Politics of Racial Equity. Dr. Joseph&rsquo;s groundbreaking research across the Dominican Republic, Brazil, and the United States reveals a hard truth: diversity programs and inclusion language often mask deep, structural failures &mdash; especially in healthcare access for Black and Latino communities.
This is a conversation for everyone who has ever felt like the system wasn&rsquo;t built for them &mdash; because according to Dr. Joseph&rsquo;s research, it wasn&rsquo;t.
In this episode, Gabriela and Dr. Joseph discuss:
<ul>
<li>What her comparative research in the DR and Brazil revealed about race, identity, and access that the U.S. refuses to confront</li>
<li>Why &ldquo;diversity&rdquo; and &ldquo;inclusion&rdquo; are not the same as equity &mdash; and who gets left behind</li>
<li>The real barriers Latino and immigrant communities face when trying to access quality healthcare</li>
<li>What her viral TED Talk gets right about structural inequality</li>
<li>How policy, language, and identity intersect to either open or close doors for our communities</li>
<li>What needs to change &mdash; and what you can do right now</li>
</ul>
&iquest;Por qu&eacute; importa este episodio? Porque nuestra comunidad merece m&aacute;s que promesas. Dr. Joseph nos da el lenguaje y los datos para exigir lo que nos corresponde.
&nbsp;
🎧 &iquest;Qu&eacute; Pasa Boston? airs Sundays on Rumba 97.7 and JAMN 94.5 &mdash; part of the iHeartRadio network. Hosted by Gabriela Salas, Boston&rsquo;s trusted voice for the Latino community.
📲 Follow Gabriela: @gabrielasalasoficial on Instagram 🔔 Subscribe so you never miss an episode.

QUE PASA BOSTON
Your Direct Connection to Boston's Vibrant Latino Community
Executive Producer and Host Gabriela Salas
THE PREMIER MULTICULTURAL PLATFORM IN NEW ENGLAND
Experience the power of Boston's most influential bilingual podcast and radio show, endorsed by Governor Maura Healey, Mayor Michelle Wu, David “Big Papi” Ortiz and trusted by our dedicated iHeart listeners. Airing Sundays at 6 AM on Rumba 97.7 and 6:30AM on JAMN 94.5 with podcast availability for extended digital reach.
HOSTED BY A GLOBAL LEADER
Gabriela Salas brings 30+ years of expertise in developing markets for Fortune 500 companies. As a respected community leader and entrepreneur, she has established herself as a trusted voice in multicultural strategies and business development. Her profound connections with A-list celebrities and innovators ensure high-caliber conversations and valuable insights.

QUE PASA BOSTON Your Direct Connection to Boston's Vibrant Latino Community Executive Producer and Host Gabriela Salas THE PREMIER MULTICULTURAL PLATFORM IN NEW ENGLAND Experience the power of Boston's most influential bilingual podcast and radio show, endorsed by Governor Maura Healey, Mayor Michelle Wu, David &ldquo;Big Papi&rdquo; Ortiz and trusted by our dedicated iHeart listeners. Airing Sundays at 6 AM on Rumba 97.7 and 6:30AM on JAMN 94.5 with podcast availability for extended digital reach. HOSTED BY A GLOBAL LEADER Gabriela Salas brings 30+ years of expertise in developing markets for Fortune 500 companies. As a respected community leader and entrepreneur, she has established herself as a trusted voice in multicultural strategies and business development. Her profound connections with A-list celebrities and innovators ensure high-caliber conversations and valuable insights.

QUE PASA BOSTONYour Direct Connection to Boston's Vibrant Latino Community*Hosted by Gabriela Salas, Vice President of iHeartMedia Sales*THE PREMIER MULTICULTURAL PLATFORM IN NEW ENGLANDExperience the power of Boston's most influential bilingual...

¿Que Pasa Boston?

QUE PASA BOSTON
Your Direct Connection to Boston's Vibrant Latino Community
*Hosted by Gabriela Salas, Vice President of iHeartMedia Sales*
THE PREMIER MULTICULTURAL PLATFORM IN NEW ENGLAND
Experience the power of Boston's most influential bilingual podcast and radio show, endorsed by Governor Maura Healey, Mayor Michelle Wu, David “Big Papi” Ortiz and trusted by our dedicated iHeart listeners. Airing Sundays at 6 AM on Rumba 97.7 and 6:30AM on JAMN 94.5 with podcast availability for extended digital reach.
HOSTED BY A GLOBAL LEADER
Gabriela Salas brings 30+ years of expertise in developing markets for Fortune 500 companies. As a respected community leader and entrepreneur, she has established herself as a trusted voice in multicultural strategies and business development. Her profound connections with A-list celebrities and innovators ensure high-caliber conversations and valuable insights.

QUE PASA BOSTON Your Direct Connection to Boston's Vibrant Latino Community *Hosted by Gabriela Salas, Vice President of iHeartMedia Sales* THE PREMIER MULTICULTURAL PLATFORM IN NEW ENGLAND Experience the power of Boston's most influential bilingual podcast and radio show, endorsed by Governor Maura Healey, Mayor Michelle Wu, David “Big Papi” Ortiz and trusted by our dedicated iHeart listeners. Airing Sundays at 6 AM on Rumba 97.7 and 6:30AM on JAMN 94.5 with podcast availability for extended digital reach. HOSTED BY A GLOBAL LEADER Gabriela Salas brings 30+ years of expertise in developing markets for Fortune 500 companies. As a respected community leader and entrepreneur, she has established herself as a trusted voice in multicultural strategies and business development. Her profound connections with A-list celebrities and innovators ensure high-caliber conversations and valuable insights.

Sociologist Dr. Tiffany Joseph studied the DR and Brazil to understand why America still falls short on racial equity and healthcare access. Her findings will change how you see the system.

Not All In: Race, Healthcare & the Flight for Real Equity

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