For four days this week from Monday 4 December until today, 07 December, judges from the country’s High Courts are meeting behind closed doors at Sun City to review the judiciary's constitutional role and mandate, the first time in over a decade that this will happen. The South African legal profession continues to face the challenge of meaningful transformation. The top positions in the profession, from senior partners of law firms to senior counsel at the Bar and senior members of the judiciary, remain largely homogenous. These positions are dominated by white men, with a marked absence of diversity on the basis of race, gender and other marginalising characteristics. In this conversation, reflecting on the 27th anniversary of the signing of the Constitution, we look into why there has been so little change at the senior level of the legal profession, especially in respect of the intersection between race and gender and broader society. With a large number of black women graduating from law schools and entering the profession, it is incongruous that the upper echelons are not more integrated. National Chairperson of Advocates for Transformation Advocate Myron Dewrance SC joins Morio Sanyane for the conversation.