The collapse of public trust in Broad-Based Black Economic Empowerment (B-BBEE) in South Africa is no longer just a boardroom debate; it has become a central point of friction in the national psyche. Research suggests a perfect storm; of economic stagnation, perceived elite capture, and a shift in focus toward meritocracy has led many South Africans—across racial lines—to view the policy as a hindrance rather than a help. Mondli Makhanya spoke to Dr Anthea Jeffrey Head of Policy Research at the South African Institute of Race Relations (IRR) and Stan Itshegetseng - NEC Member, Progressive Professionals Forum (PPF).