Lukhona Mnguni sits down with ANC president Cyril Ramaphosa for a wide-ranging discussion on governance and matters relating to the ANC. Mnguni does not hold bars in firing critical questions at the president as they unpack Ramaphosa's inaccessibility to the media in relation to Covid-19 announcements, disappearing clauses from the ANC's constitution in relation to campaign funding as well as the president's conflicting business interests.