In this conversation, Aldrin is joined by advocate Tembeka Ngcukaito, professor Ruth Hall and Bulelwa Mabasa and looks at the amended expropriation bill, interrogates whether it brings certainty about how expropriation can be done, does it separate parliamentary process considering Section 25 of the Constitution and land expropriation without compensation. Throughout the conversation, an outline about the circumstances in which no compensation will be paid is also explored