Dr Grace Naledi Mandisa Pandor is a senior South African political figure whose career spans education, science and technology, and international relations. Since the advent of democracy in 1994, she has held multiple ministerial portfolios and served in leadership roles within Parliament and the African National Congress (ANC). Mbuyiseni Ndlozi is in conversation with Former SA African government minister and Chairperson of the Nelson Mandela Foundation Board of Trustees.