Unearthing a true historical site, celebrated by two nations, the South Africans, and the Swazis, for the liberation and bringing into existence the largest democracy on the African continent – after more than 40 years in existence. It has been described as the nerve centre for the operations of the ANC and its armed wing Umkhonto weSizwe in Swaziland and has been paralleled to Liliesleaf Farm, in Rivonia. Number 43, Trelawney Park has been home for the Masilela family, for over forty years, from the time uButhongo arrived in Swaziland in 1965. Many people have argued that the house qualifies for a place in the annals of South Africa’s liberation history. Aware of the temptation of self-praise, the family has been reluctant to accept this idea, let alone internalise it. Over time, however, they have developed a deep appreciation of their history. Masilela Family Representative Joel Masilela joins Lerato Mbele for the conversation.