The Johannesburg council has approved a public participation process that could lead to the sale or renegotiation of prime land occupied by the Killarney Country Club and Pirates Sports Club, ending decades-old low-rent deals labelled as relics of apartheid. This move comes after heated debates over the R2 annual rent paid by Killarney since 1970, with councillors pushing for market-related terms to boost city revenue and benefit communities, while the clubs argue their maintenance efforts provide real value. Mbuyiseni Ndlozi is in conversation with Specialist in constitutional law and human rights litigation and Executive Director at Ndifuna Ukwazi, Mpho Raboeane and Attorney from Legal Resources Centre, Wilmien Wicomb.