In 1994, the judiciary was overwhelmingly white (and male) and therefore limited in its legitimacy and its capacity to draw on the sense of justice of all communities and both sexes. It was agreed that a new court, more representative of South Africa's diverse population, should be established to protect the Constitution and the fundamental human rights it entrances.  Mbuyiseni Ndlozi is in conversation with Former Constitutional Court Judge, Justice Johann Kriegler, Constitutional Law Expert, Advocate Prince Mafu.