One of the shockingly accepted norms in many areas in South Africa is that you need to pay a bribe to get a job. Or you need to be a family member, friend or be a card-carrying ANC member to get employed. But surely the worst of these is the rising phenomenon of “carpet interviews” which occurs when someone demands sex in exchange for a job. Or, in many cases, in exchange for the possibility of just being considered for a job. We are in conversation with Nguvu Collective change agent, Yongama Zigebe as we unpack what is the most fundamental impact of corruption on women, young people and children.