Colleen Makhubele is in conversation with Mr. Thivhudziwi Walter Vele – Chief Director TVET Programmes and Qualifications at South Africa's Department of Higher Education and Training, Dr. George Mothapo is the Principal and CEO of Sedibeng TVET College in the Gauteng province and serves as the Secretary-General of the South African Public Colleges Organisation (SACPO), Kgaokelo Chokoe – President of South African Technical Vocational Education and Training Student Association (SATVETSA) as well as Affected TVET Student Moses Matlala