Today we are celebrating the 65th anniversary of the Independence of the Democratic Republic of Congo, which holds significant historical and cultural importance, marking the country's emancipation from Belgian dominance on 30 June 1960 and the year 2025 also marks the Centenary Birthday of the great Patrice Emery Lumumba, who was born on 2 July 1925. Thabiso Kotane was in conversation with Veli Mbele, Writer, Black consciousness Activist (someone who was influenced by the ideas of Bantu Biko).