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The New York City Marathon Fall and Recovery

The Marathon Runner's Mindset

The MVP Process

From Jogging Stroller to Marathon Runner

The Psychological Breakthrough in Athletics

Performance Psychology

Hypnosis and Experiential Therapies

The Power of Movement and Flow State

The Primal Bonding of Running Together

The Zone: When Movement Unlocks Flow

Hypnosis: Misconceptions and Natural State

Visualization: Key to Performance and Success

The Post-Run High: More Than Just Endorphins

The Dangers of Over-Reliance on Medication

The Importance of Movement for Mental Health

Social Media's Impact on Mental Health

Nature's Perspective

The Viral Power of Running Moments

Marathon Mishaps and Mental Resilience

Connecting Through Shared Experiences

Keep Moving: A Final Piece of Advice

Closing Thoughts and Future Plans

Dr. Dana Lebo is a performance psychologist with over 30 years of clinical experience, a lifelong runner, and a clinical hypnosis expert (President-elect of the American Society of Clinical Hypnosis).

In this episode of Post Run High, Kate sits down with Dana for a deep conversation about performance, resilience, and what happens when both the mind and body hit the wall.

Dana shares her firsthand experience of falling and breaking her arm at mile 12 of the New York City Marathon—and the mindset that helped her recover, return to racing, and keep moving forward. From elite marathon strategy to everyday mental health, this conversation explores how movement unlocks clarity, emotional regulation, and psychological breakthroughs.

You’ll hear Dana break down her MVP Method—Mindfulness, Visualization, and Positive Self-Coaching—and how these tools are used by elite athletes, CEOs, and high performers to push through physical limits, manage anxiety, and reframe setbacks.

This episode covers:
• What really happens mentally when runners “hit the wall”
• Why movement can be as powerful as traditional therapy
• How visualization actually works (and what people get wrong about it)
• The role of clinical hypnosis in performance and recovery
• Why aging doesn’t have to mean slowing down
• How to build mental resilience without relying on medication
• Why running—and moving—creates deeper human connection

Whether you’re an athlete, a high performer, or someone navigating a hard season of life, this episode is a reminder that you don’t have to be perfect to keep going—you just have to keep moving.

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Dr. Dana Lebo is a performance psychologist with over 30 years of clinical experience, a lifelong runner, and a clinical hypnosis expert (President-elect of the American Society of Clinical Hypnosis).
In this episode of Post Run High, Kate sits down with Dana for a deep conversation about performance, resilience, and what happens when both the mind and body hit the wall.
Dana shares her firsthand experience of falling and breaking her arm at mile 12 of the New York City Marathon&mdash;and the mindset that helped her recover, return to racing, and keep moving forward. From elite marathon strategy to everyday mental health, this conversation explores how movement unlocks clarity, emotional regulation, and psychological breakthroughs.
You&rsquo;ll hear Dana break down her MVP Method&mdash;Mindfulness, Visualization, and Positive Self-Coaching&mdash;and how these tools are used by elite athletes, CEOs, and high performers to push through physical limits, manage anxiety, and reframe setbacks.
This episode covers: &bull; What really happens mentally when runners &ldquo;hit the wall&rdquo; &bull; Why movement can be as powerful as traditional therapy &bull; How visualization actually works (and what people get wrong about it) &bull; The role of clinical hypnosis in performance and recovery &bull; Why aging doesn&rsquo;t have to mean slowing down &bull; How to build mental resilience without relying on medication &bull; Why running&mdash;and moving&mdash;creates deeper human connection
Whether you&rsquo;re an athlete, a high performer, or someone navigating a hard season of life, this episode is a reminder that you don&rsquo;t have to be perfect to keep going&mdash;you just have to keep moving.
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Post Run High features conversations with high-performing founders, athletes, artists, health and science experts, and leaders about what it really takes to succeed. Through honest, post-movement conversations, guests share how they’ve navigated challenges, built resilience, and used movement as a tool for clarity, discipline, and growth. Each episode explores the mindset behind performance — what keeps people going when things get hard — and offers tangible advice listeners can apply in their everyday lives.

Post Run High features conversations with high-performing founders, athletes, artists, health and science experts, and leaders about what it really takes to succeed.&nbsp;Through honest, post-movement conversations, guests share how they&rsquo;ve navigated challenges, built resilience, and used movement as a tool for clarity, discipline, and growth.&nbsp;Each episode explores the mindset behind performance &mdash; what keeps people going when things get hard &mdash; and offers tangible advice listeners can apply in their everyday lives.
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Post Run High

Post Run High is a podcast about honest conversations that happen when people slow down and let their guard drop.

Hosted by Kate Mackz, the show brings together founders, creators, athletes, artists, and thinkers to talk about performance, identity, pressure, and the moments that shape who we become. Recorded after a run, walk, or shared movement, these conversations tap into the clarity that often comes when the body is tired and the mind is open.

This isn’t a show about success on paper. It’s about what people carry behind the scenes — how they cope with doubt, navigate change, stay disciplined, and keep going when things get hard. Post Run High is a space for reflection, perspective, and real insight you can take into your own life.

Post Run High is a podcast about honest conversations that happen when people slow down and let their guard drop.
Hosted by Kate Mackz, the show brings together founders, creators, athletes, artists, and thinkers to talk about performance, identity, pressure, and the moments that shape who we become. Recorded after a run, walk, or shared movement, these conversations tap into the clarity that often comes when the body is tired and the mind is open.
This isn&rsquo;t a show about success on paper. It&rsquo;s about what people carry behind the scenes &mdash; how they cope with doubt, navigate change, stay disciplined, and keep going when things get hard. Post Run High is a space for reflection, perspective, and real insight you can take into your own life.

Post Run High with Kate Mackz

Performance Psychologist: Why Your Brain Quits Before Your Body Does

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