On today’s episode of Complicated Conversations, we welcome Sarah Mandel, a psychologist, wife, and mother who chronicles her extraordinary journey with cancer while pregnant with her second baby in her debut memoir, Little Earthquakes. 

Sarah is a true light in this world. Please listen to this conversation and read her memoir if you want to be moved, if you want to understand what healing can look like, and if you need a reminder of how to seek out hope in the most difficult of times. We were so inspired by Sarah and we know you will be too!

<p dir="ltr">On today’s episode of Complicated Conversations, we welcome Sarah Mandel, a psychologist, wife, and mother who chronicles her extraordinary journey with cancer while pregnant with her second baby in her debut memoir, Little Earthquakes. </p>
<p>Sarah is a true light in this world. Please listen to this conversation and read her memoir if you want to be moved, if you want to understand what healing can look like, and if you need a reminder of how to seek out hope in the most difficult of times. We were so inspired by Sarah and we know you will be too!</p>

In Pop Fiction Women we deep-dive into the complicated women of books, movies and TV shows, along with the women that bring them to life behind the scenes. Think Fleabag and Phoebe Waller Bridge, Normal People and Sally Rooney, and so much more.

In each episode you can expect us to:

* Break down the protagonist as we ask what makes her complicated?
* Identify the best scenes, which can mean sweetest, funniest, or most badass. Anything we love.
* Recount the cringiest scenes. The ones that make you squirm. Sometimes it’s self-sabotage, sometimes it’s growth, but it’s always part of the process of becoming our complicated selves.
* Play arm-chair therapist in What’s Your Damage, Heather? An homage to the iconic line in Winona Rider’s Heathers, we discuss how these characters got to be the way they are.
* “What She Said” - the segment where we scour every essay and interview with the women behind the scenes and share some of our favorite first person quotes. Real life is as interesting as fiction here.
* Look into our crystal ball and ponder where these characters are six months later and five years later. Typically, Kate gets very real and Carinn gets buck wild.
* Provide a takeaway, aka that part in the podcast where we try to sound deep. We leave you with some parting wisdom, challenge each other with thought-provoking questions inspired by the work, and urge you to “stay complicated.”

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