Get ready for a fantastic long-form conversation with Dr. Joy Kong and Cynthia Thurlow! 

It was such a pleasure to sit down for a fire-side style, three-way chat to discuss all kinds of topics with these two powerhouse women. I’m trying to be more bold and daring as the host of the B.rad podcast, including going for some long-form, in person interviews, as I think it is the best chance to get truly breakthrough insights. This is proving to be true; throughout this conversation, I got to know Cynthia and Dr. Joy on a deeper level than remote podcast engagements where you stick to the key talking points in the guest’s area of expertise. Same for going to visit Gabby Reece at her home—you connect on a deeper level and the conversation takes interesting twists and turns.

This episode features some deep discussions around some pretty heavy, real topics, as Dr. Joy and Cynthia open up and share personal stories that will inspire you and get you thinking, and we also  cover many important and relevant health topics. You will hear Cynthia explain how being in the hospital with complications from an emergency surgery ended up changing her life, and Dr. Joy talks about her experience growing up in a high-pressure, high expectations culture in China and how this shaped her, as well as how she maintains a healthy work-life balance today as she pursues her goals. We also spend a long time discussing the role of protein in a healthy diet and compare and contrast the different popular diets today.

Cynthia Thurlow is a nurse practitioner, author of the best selling book Intermittent Fasting Transformation, a 2x TEDx speaker, and the host of Everyday Wellness Podcast. With over 20 years experience in health and wellness, Cynthia is a globally recognized expert in intermittent fasting and women’s health, and her mission is to educate women on the benefits of intermittent fasting and overall holistic health and wellness, so they feel empowered to live their most optimal lives. 

Dr. Joy Kong is a UCLA-trained, triple board-certified physician, anti-aging and stem cell specialist, educator, and CEO. As the founder of Uplyft Longevity Center in Chatsworth, CA, she focuses her efforts on the prevention of aging, as well as chronic diseases that no one else has been able to heal. She believes that complete healing can only come from looking at the whole person - mind, body, and soul. 



TIMESTAMPS:

The two women discuss their transformation from traditional medicine to more enlightened patient care and education. [05:43]

Helping people stay well is very bad for the pharmaceutical business. [09:03]

If a patient would eat properly, lower carbs and eat more protein, get good sleep, and move, they wouldn’t need so many medications. [11:31]

We’ve made it hard for people to make changes. Watch your spending habits and prioritize healthy eating. [14:05]

There is much misinformation dispensed by well-meaning people that causes confusion. [17:09]

How much protein should we be eating? [19:06]

Muscle mass and muscle strength are the key to hanging in there a long time. [25:35]

If you are a fan of fasting, it is difficult to get enough protein. [29:39]

There are so many schools of thought about high carb, low carb, high fat, low fat, plant, carnivore, etc. The starting point, regardless of what school you are in, is to get rid of the crap in your diet. [32:06]

Many people just get accustomed to feeling poorly.  They don’t know what it feels like to be healthy. [37:41]

Do men and women fast differently? Women under age 35 should use caution with fasting. [38:38]

What role do carbs play? It’s very individual experiment.  “How do I feel?” is a good monitor. [45:16]

What is a good window for intermittent fasting? [55:19]

All those restrictive diets, fasting, keto, low carb, etc. are in the category of stressors. We live in a very stressful society. [01:01:32]

It’s a constant effort to find balance. It’s important to be introspective about your life, to figure out what you want, who you really are. [01:12:40]

Goal setting can help envision where you want to go in the future, and imagine how it feels. If we get comfortable, we don’t grow.  [01:24:58]

Some people are constantly giving and not advocating for themselves. [01:32:52]

When people are disconnected and feel unloved, feel unworthy, they experience more negativity.   [01:38:29]

Set the bar really low so you can get over it and then keep raising the bar. [01:40:23]

The best thing you can do as a parent is love your kids. [01:46:11]

Vegetables have always been promoted as the super nutrient, however, there are many problems that can play havoc on your gut. [01:53:00]

Don’t obsess with the caveman example. [02:02:38]



LINKS:
Brad Kearns.com
Brad’s Shopping page
The Intermittent Fasting Transformation
TED talk Cynthia Thurlow
Podcast with Dr. Joy Kong
The Tiger of Beijing
Why I Stopped Fasting (Mutzel)
Atomic Habits
Eat that Frog
The Hacking of the American Mind
Everyday Wellness podcast
Intermittent Fasting podcast
Joy Kong, M.D.
Uplyft Longevity Center



Join Brad for more fun on: 

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Check out each of these companies because they are absolutely awesome or they wouldn’t occupy this revered space. Seriously, Brad won’t promote anything he doesn’t absolutely love and use in daily life.
Mito Red Light: Photobiomodulation light panels to enhance cellular energy production, improve recovery, and optimize circadian rhythm. Email me for special B.rad 10% discount and 60-day free trial!
NutriSense: Continuous glucose monitor and 1:1 expert support to help optimize diet choices and lifestyle behaviors. $30 B.rad discount!
Marek Health: Comprehensive lab testing and expert tele-health support for peak performance. Use code “BRAD” for 10% discount!
LMNT Electrolyte Drink Mix: Tasty, sugar-free, scientifically formulated electrolyte drink mix with everything you need and nothing you don’t. Free sample pack, just click the link!
B.rad Whey + Creatine Superfuel: Premium quality, all-natural supplement for peak performance, recovery, and longevity
Male Optimization Formula with Organs (MOFO): Optimize testosterone naturally with 100% grassfed animal organ supplement
Brad’s Macadamia Masterpiece: Mind-blowing, life-changing nut butter blend
Online educational courses: Numerous great offerings for an immersive home-study educational experience

Check out the my Favorites page for discounts on other great products!

Get ready for a fantastic long-form conversation with Dr. Joy Kong and Cynthia Thurlow! 
It was such a pleasure to sit down for a fire-side style, three-way chat to discuss all kinds of topics with these two powerhouse women. I’m trying to be more bold and daring as the host of the B.rad podcast, including going for some long-form, in person interviews, as I think it is the best chance to get truly breakthrough insights. This is proving to be true; throughout this conversation, I got to know Cynthia and Dr. Joy on a deeper level than remote podcast engagements where you stick to the key talking points in the guest’s area of expertise. Same for going to visit <a href="https://bradkearns.com/2022/10/14/gaby-reece-2/">Gabby Reece at her home</a>—you connect on a deeper level and the conversation takes interesting twists and turns.
This episode features some deep discussions around some pretty heavy, real topics, as Dr. Joy and Cynthia open up and share personal stories that will inspire you and get you thinking, and we also  cover many important and relevant health topics. You will hear Cynthia explain how being in the hospital with complications from an emergency surgery ended up changing her life, and Dr. Joy talks about her experience growing up in a high-pressure, high expectations culture in China and how this shaped her, as well as how she maintains a healthy work-life balance today as she pursues her goals. We also spend a long time discussing the role of protein in a healthy diet and compare and contrast the different popular diets today.
Cynthia Thurlow is a nurse practitioner, author of the best selling book Intermittent Fasting Transformation, a 2x TEDx speaker, and the host of Everyday Wellness Podcast. With over 20 years experience in health and wellness, Cynthia is a globally recognized expert in intermittent fasting and women’s health, and her mission is to educate women on the benefits of intermittent fasting and overall holistic health and wellness, so they feel empowered to live their most optimal lives. 
Dr. Joy Kong is a UCLA-trained, triple board-certified physician, anti-aging and stem cell specialist, educator, and CEO. As the founder of Uplyft Longevity Center in Chatsworth, CA, she focuses her efforts on the prevention of aging, as well as chronic diseases that no one else has been able to heal. She believes that complete healing can only come from looking at the whole person - mind, body, and soul. 
 
TIMESTAMPS:
The two women discuss their transformation from traditional medicine to more enlightened patient care and education. [05:43]
Helping people stay well is very bad for the pharmaceutical business. [09:03]
If a patient would eat properly, lower carbs and eat more protein, get good sleep, and move, they wouldn’t need so many medications. [11:31]
We’ve made it hard for people to make changes. Watch your spending habits and prioritize healthy eating. [14:05]
There is much misinformation dispensed by well-meaning people that causes confusion. [17:09]
How much protein should we be eating? [19:06]
Muscle mass and muscle strength are the key to hanging in there a long time. [25:35]
If you are a fan of fasting, it is difficult to get enough protein. [29:39]
There are so many schools of thought about high carb, low carb, high fat, low fat, plant, carnivore, etc. The starting point, regardless of what school you are in, is to get rid of the crap in your diet. [32:06]
Many people just get accustomed to feeling poorly.  They don’t know what it feels like to be healthy. [37:41]
Do men and women fast differently? Women under age 35 should use caution with fasting. [38:38]
What role do carbs play? It’s very individual experiment.  “How do I feel?” is a good monitor. [45:16]
What is a good window for intermittent fasting? [55:19]
All those restrictive diets, fasting, keto, low carb, etc. are in the category of stressors. We live in a very stressful society. [01:01:32]
It’s a constant effort to find balance. It’s important to be introspective about your life, to figure out what you want, who you really are. [01:12:40]
Goal setting can help envision where you want to go in the future, and imagine how it feels. If we get comfortable, we don’t grow.  [01:24:58]
Some people are constantly giving and not advocating for themselves. [01:32:52]
When people are disconnected and feel unloved, feel unworthy, they experience more negativity.   [01:38:29]
Set the bar really low so you can get over it and then keep raising the bar. [01:40:23]
The best thing you can do as a parent is love your kids. [01:46:11]
Vegetables have always been promoted as the super nutrient, however, there are many problems that can play havoc on your gut. [01:53:00]
Don’t obsess with the caveman example. [02:02:38]
 
LINKS:
<ul>
<li><a href="https://bradkearns.com/">Brad Kearns.com</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bradkearns.com/shop/">Brad’s Shopping page</a></li>
<li><a href="about:blank">The Intermittent Fasting Transformation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6Dkt7zyImk">TED talk Cynthia Thurlow</a></li>
<li><a href="https://bradkearns.com/2022/08/03/dr-joy-kong-the-world-of-stem-cells-integrative-longevity-medicine-and-a-tiger-like-fighting-spirit-to-succeed-in-america/">Podcast with Dr. Joy Kong</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Tiger-Beijing-Inspirational-Regenerative-Physician/dp/1647139740/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=The+Tiger+of+Beijing.&amp;qid=1672341524&amp;sr=8-1">The Tiger of Beijing</a></li>
<li><a href="https://highintensityhealth.com/fasting-is-it-good-for-you-why-i-stopped-and-am-doing-this-instead/">Why I Stopped Fasting (Mutzel)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Atomic-Habits-Proven-Build-Break/dp/0593189647/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=1672357160&amp;sr=8-3">Atomic Habits</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Eat-That-Frog-Great-Procrastinating/dp/B08NN397DN/ref=sr_1_1?crid=34GH6P5UP1GQY&amp;keywords=Eat+the+frog&amp;qid=1672357583&amp;sprefix=eat+the+frog%2Caps%2C195&amp;sr=8-1">Eat that Frog</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hacking-American-Mind-Corporate-Takeover/dp/1101982586/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2KG7SUPN5PXZ6&amp;keywords=The+Hacking+of+the+American+Mind&amp;qid=1642725182&amp;sprefix=the+hacking+of+the+american+mind%2Caps%2C121&amp;sr=8-1">The Hacking of the American Mind</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/everyday-wellness/id1435214303">Everyday Wellness podcast</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=Intermittent+Fasting+podcast&amp;oq=Intermittent+Fasting+podcast&amp;aqs=chrome..69i57.1328j0j7&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8">Intermittent Fasting podcast</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/dr_joy_kong/?hl=en">Joy Kong, M.D.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.uplyftcenter.com/">Uplyft Longevity Center</a></li>
</ul>
 
Join Brad for more fun on: 
Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/bradkearns1/">@bradkearns1</a>
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Check out each of these companies because they are absolutely awesome or they wouldn’t occupy this revered space. Seriously, Brad won’t promote anything he doesn’t absolutely love and use in daily life.
<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.mitoredlight.com" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.mitoredlight.com&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1670784308464000&amp;usg=AOvVaw29pWkTXUYp7Rg1ax_ytaJA">Mito Red Light: </a>Photobiomodulation light panels to enhance cellular energy production, improve recovery, and optimize circadian rhythm. <a href="mailto:podcast@bradventures.com">Email</a> me for special B.rad 10% discount and 60-day free trial!</li>
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<li><a href="http://marekhealth.com/brad" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://marekhealth.com/brad&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1670784308464000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1uuV_P3vQC3hCsaDoD5LsT">Marek Health:</a> Comprehensive lab testing and expert tele-health support for peak performance. Use code “BRAD” for 10% discount!</li>
<li><a href="https://drinklmnt.com/products/lmnt-recharge-electrolyte-drink?rfsn=6798633.c0a533&amp;utm_medium=sponsor&amp;utm_source=bradkearns&amp;utm_campaign=agwp&amp;utm_content=&amp;utm_term=&amp;variant=16358367199266" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://drinklmnt.com/products/lmnt-recharge-electrolyte-drink?rfsn%3D6798633.c0a533%26utm_medium%3Dsponsor%26utm_source%3Dbradkearns%26utm_campaign%3Dagwp%26utm_content%3D%26utm_term%3D%26variant%3D16358367199266&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1670784308464000&amp;usg=AOvVaw35LiZX7WpKjxihBnypQAUf">LMNT Electrolyte Drink Mix:</a> Tasty, sugar-free, scientifically formulated electrolyte drink mix with everything you need and nothing you don’t. Free sample pack, just click the link!</li>
<li><a href="http://bradnutrition.com/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=http://bradnutrition.com/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1670784308464000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3PAiAtJqOz4Q5BBBEjhISn">B.rad Whey + Creatine Superfuel</a>: Premium quality, all-natural supplement for peak performance, recovery, and longevity</li>
<li><a href="https://bradkearns.com/mofo/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://bradkearns.com/mofo/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1670784308464000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0n-Lt5oY6uhkAzSQV0c6tR">Male Optimization Formula with Organs (MOFO):</a> Optimize testosterone naturally with 100% grassfed animal organ supplement</li>
<li><a href="https://bradkearns.com/macademia-masterpiece/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://bradkearns.com/macademia-masterpiece/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1670784308464000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3B88Ys_qUUidGZcCu8FVG-">Brad’s Macadamia Masterpiece: </a>Mind-blowing, life-changing nut butter blend</li>
<li><a href="https://bradventures.thinkific.com/collections" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://bradventures.thinkific.com/collections&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1670784308464000&amp;usg=AOvVaw1cEUH1rIYcgawotpNmWxGx">Online educational courses:</a> Numerous great offerings for an immersive home-study educational experience</li>
</ul>
Check out the my <a href="https://bradkearns.com/favorites/" data-saferedirecturl="https://www.google.com/url?q=https://bradkearns.com/favorites/&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1670784308464000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2JRemiqRnQoKcvAMupdFVo">Favorites</a> page for discounts on other great products!

Join Brad Kearns, New York Times bestselling author and champion triathlete, Speedgolfer, and masters high jumper, in pursuing peak performance with passion throughout life. Enjoy memorable insights from leading experts on diet, fitness, peak performance, personal growth, relationships, happiness, and longevity. Brad’s “Breather” shows provide step-by-step tips you can implement right away to improve your life. Let’s explore beyond shortcuts, hacks, and crushing competition to laugh, have fun, appreciate the journey, and not take ourselves too seriously. It’s time to B.rad!

Join Brad Kearns, New York Times bestselling author and champion triathlete, Speedgolfer, and masters high jumper, in pursuing peak performance with passion throughout life. Enjoy memorable insights from leading experts on diet, fitness, peak performance, personal growth, relationships, happiness, and longevity. Brad’s “Breather” shows provide step-by-step tips you can implement right away to improve your life. Let’s explore beyond shortcuts, hacks, and crushing competition to laugh, have fun, appreciate the journey, and not take ourselves too seriously. It’s time to B.rad!

Brad Kearns, NY Times bestselling author and Guinness World Record athlete,  offers a fun and diverse mix of interviews with leading authors and health experts, and "Breather" shows for peak performance and personal growth

The B.rad Podcast

Join Brad Kearns, New York Times bestselling author and champion triathlete, speedgolfer, and masters high jumper, in pursuing peak performance with passion throughout life, without taking ourselves too seriously! You'll learn from experts on diet, fitness, peak performance, and personal growth, and enjoy Brad's brief "Breather” shows where you get simple, actionable tips to improve your life right away. Let’s explore beyond hype, hacks, shortcuts, and sciency talk to laugh, have fun, and appreciate the journey. It’s time to B.rad!

Join Brad Kearns, New York Times bestselling author and champion triathlete, speedgolfer, and masters high jumper, in pursuing peak performance with passion throughout life, without taking ourselves too seriously! You'll learn from experts on diet, fitness, peak performance, and personal growth, and enjoy Brad's brief "Breather” shows where you get simple, actionable tips to improve your life right away. Let’s explore beyond hype, hacks, shortcuts, and sciency talk to laugh, have fun, and appreciate the journey. It’s time to B.rad!

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