From the prank wars between Zeb & Ezra to Hera and Sabine's badass sidequest to Fyrnocks. And did Dave Filoni tell anyone who Fulcrum was before the big reveal later in the season? The group discusses this and much more!
I knew who it was, but I couldn't say you knew I believe sough Yeah, huh oh.
Literally, that's a question I wrote down.
I was like, did anyone know you knew which character was Fulkrom?
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I'm tthur Car, voice of Sabine Radz, Specter five, and I'm.
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Lime flies and you're having fun?
How many how many episodes of season one?
Twenty oh? I think season one was a short one.
It was like fourteen or fifteen episodes or so, so we're about at the halfway point. I think next week's episode that we go over will be like the official mid season finale ish, but.
We're just about there. Wow.
Nice.
Yeah, So, like Tia said, time flies and you're having fun, like how the ghosts. I was going to make something about the ghost flying and that completely escaped me. So anyways, everybody, welcome back to the Potter Rebellion. We are going over Season one, episode seven, Out of Darkness. Original release date November third, twenty fourteen. I'm gonna throw a fact check thing right at JC right away. I believe four days after this or a week after this, the title for episode seven was announced. So there was a lot going on in the world of Star Wars. But we're not talking about episode seven. Well actually we are, but not that Star Wars episode seven. We're talking about this Star Wars Rebels episode seven. And I guess unless there's anything else, I should get into my usual weekly recap. Hopefully I can keep the streak of keeping me all happy with the recap, but who knows. Even the Chicago Bulls and Lakers lost once in a while, so you never know, all right, So here we go, Season one, Episode seven, Out of Darkness, here comes the recap. The episode opens with the Phantom being chased down by tie fighters, but as usual, Hara has it covered and shows off moves that will give Maverick and Top Gun imposter syndrome. However, the Phantom itself does not pull off a flaw of as victory like it's a nineteen ninety two economic game on Sega Genesis. The ship has suffered some damage, but that's not the only thing. They may have been damaged. With Sabine in the Dark Amount, Harra's mysterious contact that goes by the name of Fulcrum, and they're curiosity and trust issue is starting to get the better of her. It would appear her and Harrah's relationship may be headed to an always lost territory like the seventh act of a Hallmark Christmas movie. But after Hair agrees to have Sabine come with on an upcoming Fulcrum supply run, it appears all is okay for now that two of them take off in the Fantom for their girls trip after ezraun zeb And says all is copaestic with the ship and they land at Fort in Axis, where Sabine has more questions about fulcrum, but also opens up about her past life on Mandalor, which is revealed to be what is fueling her latest concerns. Hara tries to assure Sabine that there is a big picture plant and they're on the right side of things. As the two of them gathered supplies, they soon see that they're not alone. In addition to supplies, there are also creatures known as Furnox, and while these creatures are vicious, they do share the same weakness as Magwai slash gremlins and that they don't like the sun Heron. Sabin outrun the creatures and are ready to fly out a harm's way, but there's a major problem. Like Tango and Cash's car in nineteen eighty nine, the Phantom is almost out of gas. Hair is puzzled at how this is possible, but then it's revealed that zebin Azer didn't check the entire diagnostics of the ship, and now Haro and Sabine are stranded. It becomes a race against time and sunlight while battling as nocturnal silicone creatures. And despite the fact that harns of being appeared to be the best one to two punch since Kobe and Shock in the two thousands keep it preering and coming after them like Gumbas and Super Mario Brothers, And just when it seems like their backs are against the wall, the ghost swoops in like Doc Brown and Back to the Future Part two, and the Ghost crew gets Hara and Sabin out of there. Back on the Ghost Zeben as I apologize to Haro and sabing like two school kids who didn't check their work before handing their papers into the teacher. The episode ends with a nice sister in the moment between Harro and Saban. Hara once again lets Sabine know they are making a difference and they won't always be doing it alone. And despite Sabine's past moons and trust issues, She's willing to work her way to having to meet the parents like unconditional circle of trust worth her chosen family. And that is season one, episode seven, Out of Darkness. Bravo, well done, thank you, Okay, all right, The Streak is a live, cool cool You're all like that.
It's like the life serial.
They like it, they like it NBA referenced in early this.
Episode, Yeah you got it, and you know this was I like when shows pair off people, and this was the first time we get just like this almost standalone thing with Hair and Sabine and you learn a little bit more about Sabine, which I was really like. And I remember seeing it when it came out twenty fourteen and then watching it again knowing what I know of where it's headed. It's it's cool to see that the roadmap that's being placed out in turns of where it's.
Going to go.
So how is everybody's initial Oh, go ahead, what's your initial feelings after watching this?
Well? I just I love this episode because I love that we've got these like two kick ass female you know, badasses with blasters that are taking care of business, you know, kicking button, taking names. They don't need any help. Well they do, they do need help, but the help that they need is because zeb and Ezra messed up. Yeah, it's just refreshing and also, like, I don't know how often you get to see that, Like it's almost like a buddy action movie with true female leads. You know, it's Star Wars and beyond Star Wars. So I think it's refreshing and delightful and I loved it.
Yeah, it reminded me I love the Batman animated series from the early nineties, and there was an episode called I think it's called Girls Night Out, and it's this standalone episode with Wonder Woman and back Girl and Superman and Batman aren't in the episode and they have to take down and solve the crime and Gotham. And that's the only other thing I can think of when you have I consider Sabine inherit two iconic characters. So to have these two again badass females on their own, and you just see the resourcefulness and how they really are complimenting each other. And I love seeing more of the It's like the deep bag of tricks that Sabine has, like, oh, she knows what this is, so we can roll this down. This is going to solve the problem. And it's just it's cool to see like this character layering and expansion.
Yeah, and I think I touched on this before in a previous episode that like Sabine was according to Dave, like what we've been throughout our discussions, that she was the least flashed out character.
When we started.
You know, Ezra had a whole backstory, and I think Taylor he probably learned a.
Lot about it from the jump, right.
I think.
So, I think we got those like character the Bibles. Yeah, I'm trying to remember, did we know about each other? Did we all get everyone's thing?
But like Dave kind of you know, he would for some of you guys have probably heard us talk about this before, but we would have you know, we'd have four hour sessions every week, and sometimes like two hours of that of one session would just be Dave chatting with us before we started recording, and he would just give us like the full scoop on whatever, you know, whatever information he thought would be useful to us, and background info and exposition.
And you know, we'd be chatting away.
But so so I feel like I probably learned about y'all's characters backstories in some of those discussions, but I didn't have a well, I never got that Sitting Bible because I.
Don't know if it existed.
So this episode was really fascinating to me because it's finally the first time I really kind of got some insider info as to what happened to her in her past.
Of course, we learn a lot more later.
But this was like my first sort of speakin to who she was and why she is the way she is now.
I think equally for Harah, given that she is in contact with Fulcrimb and knows who Fulkrim is.
Obviously the voice is disguised.
It was also a look into her position in terms of gathering this motley crew and bringing them together and only telling them enough not to disinclude them, but to protect them and keep them safe. And I could feel her struggle with wanting you to feel included and safe and trusted and a mutual sense of trust, but to without revealing too much, let you know that it's for your own good, but completely unlike what the Empire did with sensitivity to that injury for you and you know. That definitely makes sense. I also had romulus alien feelings when they were going in the thing with the.
What are they called fernox, the Fernox. I think that's the first appearance of it ever in Star Wars.
Lore Ye we're seeing but when they're in the darkness together, when they sort of go into the hangar together. But I thought the music really punctuated the narrative in a way that was unique. And also in terms of the animation, the explosions had this sort of iridescent quality that I don't remember seeing ever it was it was another example of their sort of adding that layer onto it.
But I do remember when we were recording.
I was very happy that the two of these female characters were able to sort of be fleshed out a little bit more. But I also as it aired, I was writing for Star Wars Insider magazine, and I wrote our articles about how fathers who had sort of put away their Star Wars collections thanks to Sabine were able to take said collections out. And I would get letters from fathers saying thank you so much portraying such iconic female characters for my daughters to identify with and look up to. And they would always say that Sabine was their favorite character. But since I was Space Mom, I think they kind of like thanks for having the Minivan lady, you know, like they would.
I just heard feedback.
From so many fathers that it was such a way for them to have intimacy with their daughters in a.
Whole new way.
I used to go to football games with my dad, so perhaps comparable thing, you know, But it was just a way for them to get to reignite their fandom and also introduce their daughters to it, and I did a whole Father's Day article about specific parents that I had met who really appreciated that.
That's great and so many people love hero We see how many people are dressing up as hair at like conventions and stuff. It's there's something sweet that I thought parallel. It shows that Sabine and Ezra are in very similar boats despite whatever is going on in their past. That like there's a trust issue of like joining a family, and it's very similar to like the father and son, the mother and daughter of like now we're going to see this moment of I think they're in a very similar headspace of like how can I trust you? And I think Sabine's a lot further along in that journey of like, look, I've proven myself, I've done these things. Tell me more. I want that responsibility. Let me I'm sixteen, Give me the keys to the car I can drive. And I thought that was cool to see, and also to what Tia was saying in those conversations before recordings, I feel like I learned about Star Wars during those like the whole thing with her growing up in the Imperial Academy. I think I didn't even understand what that meant as much until I saw the episode with Dante. Is that the same appare all kind of Is that what she means when they say like she grew up in m hmm yeah, So like I didn't. I didn't necessarily pick all that up at the time, and then having seen it and having like a visual for it, I was like, oh, wow, that must have been a very interesting child and it makes more sense for Sabine to me.
I also love the banter between the two of you when you're like, are you going to tell me what this is?
And you're like, you may ask.
I thought that was hilarious, and there were a couple of like thanks for saving me back there, like don't read too much into a kid.
Yeah, you're trying to throw a little game, but it deflected the two you were hilarious.
I'm started to get over his game a little bit though, Like I thought it was so funny at.
First, but now it's like damn dude, or like wow.
Every every time like they're escaping something and he has to say like hey, so like would you think of that?
Okay, times that you're like, well, well, well yeah, he's a teenager.
He's he's still valuing that external validation. So let's let's get as for a little bit of leeway.
I thought it was adorable. It is very cute for sure.
And so you when you were talking about earlier Vanessa, you bring up in a really interesting question for me, which is probably like a two part question, is in terms of you may all have different answers or Vanessa you may have a different answer from Tan Taylor. And to be in theme of this episode where there's that and theme of what ts in our very first episode of the pod of how you were saying Dave has you on a need to know basis and most of the times you don't need to know And in this episode, Harah basically says that to Sabine like it's on a need to know basis. So with that with ful chrome, like did any of you know who that was? Or Vanessa, were you clued in on Okay, it is this person, but don't tell the others?
Like I think, very interesting to me.
Yeah, yeah, I knew who it was, but I couldn't say you knew I believe though, yeah, huh.
Oh, literally, that's a question I wrote down. I was like, did anyone know you knew which character was Fulchrome.
I believe so I believe she did.
Wow, I feel like you reveal that to us altogether later or later.
Because uh yeah, when she joined I I'm almost positive that I did. Yeah, I mean I knew a lot of things you guys didn't know. Oh wow, Like she says, like, my ship has a lot of secrets you don't know. Man, that was very okay, space mom. Yeah, I believe. I mean maybe maybe Fulcrum kept their identity away from Hararah. Maybe she only knew, you know how to reach Fulcrum. But when Ashley arrived or Ahsoka arrived, I.
Wasn't like, look, it's a circle, you know.
Yeah.
Oh guys, I'm so confused.
Well we already know you haven't seen a lot of the ships.
No, no, no, yes, I thought was Callous What I don't know?
Wait, I thought.
Callous was on the I mean, we're not spoiling.
It's there is something with Callous that's like in a later season, but it's.
He goes by a code name.
There is something. Yeah, we'll get there.
No fire fire, That's odd.
When when I have a conversation, when I have a conversation with full Crumb, and you're like interjecting, Sabine, I don't know if you can tell that is Ashley's voice modulated to showing like biber.
I knew once he told us afterwards, but not not then.
I definitely didn't know.
Who Fulkram was.
I just thought it was some other character that we would get to know at a future date.
But yeah, and so I remember one.
Day told I don't believe I knew, I will, I.
Mean believe, I just I remember all of the rest of us.
Being like, what, Yeah, you weren't. You weren't supposed to know. You weren't supposed to know, So that was probably maybe strategically.
Yeah, sure, I mean the case, it was fun.
I was amused watching rewatching this episode because I recalled that I had mentioned before. I mean, we all we all sweach orp talk about this or joke about it. That we were always on a need to know a basis with Dave's.
And more often than not, you did not need to know.
So there was a lot we didn't know of any you know, of course, there was never anything that we needed to know for the for our performances that he wouldn't tell us, Like I don't mean to say that he wouldn't tell us anything. He just didn't tell us anything in advance because he just wanted he guided our experiences of like so that you know, kind of in the same way that Haarrah is protecting Sabine. He wanted to sort of give us the information we needed for the job at hand, and not more so that we would like know too much and but that you know, in this scene, the character doesn't know that information yet. He just sort of it was simpler to kind of give us the c that is pertinent to these performances, these scenes, this this material and not anything like further down the line that would kind of maybe muney our minds as to like, but you know, so we were able to focus on what we were doing in the job at hand.
I mean it could be I'm I was a huge Clone Wars fan, and uh, you know, when Ashley did come into the recording studio, and I believe she brought us sweatshirts. I still have it. It's a purple sweatshirt that says love. And I was, you know, like I told you, ugly crying when I met her. So for you know, if for someone to vaguely mention that full Crumb is in fact a soka for me as bionic nerd. I was, I mean, fully aware of who ful crimb was, but that information may not have landed on you if it was said in passing the same way. You know, I'm so who you know now or or you were not told and I was just because Hara knew. I don't really remember which which way it went, but true to serving the narrative, it was better that you didn't know anyway.
So still no clue.
I'm gonna. I'm gonna so they really show a super grimase.
I don't know if I believe you guys, it's Taylor, all right, let's just go.
Yeah.
I thought I thought you would have, and I think you did already, and I think and Vanessa was referencing it too when the two of them. I thought it was so fun, like going into the whole device of when the sun is out and not out. I feel like I've seen that in movies, and whether I'm thinking it's teen Wolf or something, surely there are other movies right where we've seen devices like that. I thought it was fun and I was like, oh, I bet John's gonna have some deep cuts instances that parallel.
That in a way.
Yeah, I mean the first thing I thought of because I loved the movie Gremlins so much. I'm like, oh, it's like magways can't be around the sun. They don't like bright lights. So that's that's where my brain went. But then, of course vampires and you know, you think Blade and it was that part was really cool to me. When they're at this base, which, by the way, Fort xis is a Clone Wars reference. Like, again, we're getting more breadcrumbs in terms of our connective tissue rather the Clone Wars and JC, I'm giving you a bunch of homework for the fact check. When you look at forward and X's it looks a lot like the Rebel Bass and Empire strikes back on HAWF. So whether that's intentional or not, I don't know, but JC will know. That's what our t shirts are going to say eventually. But when I saw that part, when the Fernox showed, it felt like, because I love horror movies, it felt like a really cool like horror movie, like a creature feature. And I think that's why I love this episode so much.
Yeah, it's fun, the creatures are fun.
I thought the goop. The visuals were nice. The visuals were very fun in this episode. And the creatures. We never got a name for those creatures. I don't think no, Theox, the fox, you know what, Dell.
Isn't a single thing I said, you literally just well Estra has a whole thing.
What's the fur Knox?
Later in like a later episode too, you'll see yeah yah, which oh so that you know.
No he didn't. That was a polite yeah.
I like when you know, like when all of that like good old star wars y banter and like jokes, even though there's like the stakes are high, there's lots of like action happening.
These two dumb dums.
Has death screaming in the corner and then uh uh cans like, yeah, they're in trouble.
We got to go say him.
They're like, wow, that's it, and he's like, no, I heard you yelling out of.
Ridiculous.
I remember when I saw that, I was like, I really hope they just do a joke that no, I wasn't even in the forest, you're literally right there. And then sure enough they did it. Like yes, there's the payoff. And that's such a freddy thing to say, because.
You're like, no, dude, like I literally heard you just now.
I'm like, oh, okay, yeah.
Canaan is so Freddy and Freddy is so Canaan. But that's applicable all all of y'all.
I think in my mind, Yeah, the lines definitely get blurred because I feel like a lot of y'all's qualities that make you you like, they obviously bled into the characters. Obviously there was a foundation and a very solid base for you to build off of. But then that's the really cool thing about series or TV in general, Like movies are self contained. You have this, you have the first, second, third act, but then throughout the course of four seasons, you all got to grow so much with the characters and layer it even more and more and more. And I feel like the more you did that, the more those lines are blurred. And so it's like it's like you are Sabine, Sabine is Tia and all that stuff. But it's it's cool, you know, and I'm sure it's just a trip to keep rewatching. I know, we're on episode seven of season one, but it's like, I'm I can't help but think about, oh what wait till we get the season four or what do we get to this moment. It's just and you just see even more of the Larry's up Larrying's up close, because that's what you're looking out for on these rewatches.
To speak to that fandom stuff, I think. I don't know if you remember. In one of the earlier episodes, I had talked about going to Star Wars weekends. I did remember to bring the gifted le coup. I mentioned there was a woman who waited outside in the Florida cold night to give me this le cou headset. I wanted to give her a shout out. I said I would bring them at some point, but I do have them here, so we'll we'll post this online.
But we shout her out. Shout out this person's name.
It's cosplay for Jedi on Etsy and Alison Barrios is her birth name, if you will, and she has Alaska, I mean, if you want to tweetle like out here.
She also has other various twe les on offer.
On going on, and I remember I remember when I came back, I think someone had added me a chef from there, a chef's hot. That's that's nice because someone else said it looks like I had a diaper.
I hit a diaper and I was like, wow, that's pretty pretty raw there.
All right, Uh, we're.
Gonna bell Crow.
I'm strapping in.
This is a oh my goodness, this is a very uh, this is a big moment for the podcast here. I mean, I got at a lost her words. So people who are just listening, we'll probably make this a social clip.
I love chair aspect.
It's just you get the full like like, yeah, so thank you, Allison, I love you.
Anyway. But I mean it just continues like that. That's just yet another.
Example of like we were talking about how people cosplay as Hara and as Sabine and I go to so many events and and I've said this before many of your posts online. So many women in the Hara cosplay dm chat that I'm on on Instagram. Shout out to all the herass.
It's hilarious. They're like, the bomb jeans are really giving me a hard.
Time, you know, you know, sound like that, but I mean it's just so funny to hear their struggles with the cosplay of Hara. You know, they're like this belt buckle works, and this clinique lipstick exactly matches her in season three and uh, you know, like this is this is a real thing, it really happens. I mean, we'll have to do bonus content maybe like get get all the Sabines together and all the Ezras and all the.
You know, maybe we can do some Star Wars rebels, cosplay tutorials or something as social clips and bring on.
I'm just saying, buddy, because it's it's a whole, it's a whole.
How we use Freddy? I was wondering how, I wait, he does the tutorials?
Really we'd love.
To, no doubt.
Yeah, but he was really funny in the episode, the episode seven, he was very funny, very understated, very freddy. Yeah.
On the rewatch and Freddie is a very as you all know, he's a very cerebral, very thoughtful person. He's thinking ten moves ahead, he's thinking ten leers deep. And I hear a lot more of his subtleties in Canaan just kind of little oh yeah, okay, you know, because that's what Freddie does in his acting performances too. And admittedly I didn't notice that the first time around, because you're just kind of consuming everything. It's a lot coming at you, but having grown as an artist and performer, and when you know to look out for those things, like you're like, Okay, what are some of the subtleties this actor is doing? And you see so many, not just as Freddy weirdy with all you and it. It goes on even more as the series goes on. But Freddy especially like he finds ways to add just a little bit of subtext without trying to make it subtext, if that makes sense. He's very stealth about it, and you see so much of it in Canaan. So I would just urge a lot of our listeners. I mean, on the service level, yeah, everything's great, but when you listen closely to what Freddy's doing, He's putting so much thought into Canaan. And especially when we get the later episodes and we explore more of his and Harri's relationship, there's a lot of that there too. It's really cool. So it's a again voice acting. Voice acting is such a cool art to it, and I felt like there was just like and I don't mean and I keep talking about how voice acting is real acting, but there's like real acting going on in this episode, especially with Sabine and you feel so hurt and so in the dark, and you're it's clear like PTSD, and there's clear like mental health themes without saying mental health themes, and you just feel all of that. And I think back to our first episode when I talked about that blind of dialogue that you got would Ezra, And now some of it's coming to the forefront again, like each and every week. It's it's like I like to give just throw the kudos out there, so that'll be one of the many.
I think that we should name Ezra's sling shot.
Oh yeah, I'm definitely want to give it a name.
It should be called like the Zinger Slinger.
Does it have a name?
JC on the fact check said it was just called the Energy Slingshot. I agree. It's it seems so feutile and does nothing, but it's.
It helped with the Fernox.
It helped.
It was you know, to me, reminds.
Me of remember when you were a kid. I don't know if you guys see this, I was all about it. My brother would always there's two that you get at like Mattic shops. Something one would like go on your finger and you shake their hand and it would give them a little like little shock and then it was Yeah, it was like a piece of gum, Like you could like offer a piece of gum and if you pulled it, yes, and yeah. Watching that episode, I was like, oh, this is doing nothing to the fernoc Like it seems like that is the most that it does. Is it kind of like shakes you up for a.
Second, I think.
I mean, you've taken out plenty of bad guys already thus far with that Zinger Slinger.
Yeah, the storm Tripper and part two of Spartan Rebellion. You literally knocked the storn Tripra off with the Wilhelm scream.
So yes, it's true Zinger Slayer coming in.
I like Singer Slinger.
I was gonna say.
I noticed that Harra called Canaan deer in this episode. Just rewatching the first season, I remember she often called him love and they were like, oh hey easy, you know, because they we didn't this had to be kid friendly and we kind of didn't want it to be a romantic anything, and yet there were these terms of endearment and deer. I thought that was interesting that she's yes, dear when she's doling out all the chores to everyone she calls him deer. And I also I think for the drinking game, for how many times Harris says hang on, we got our first hang on, or maybe it wasn't the first one, but we got to hang on in this one, and I was laughing pretty hard. That might need to be another merch shirt for us.
Absolutely, I think the more merch the better. I'm so glad you mentioned that, Vanessa, because that the one that's a very interesting behind the scenes tidbit. But when you watch those original short films, the one with Harry and Kanaan, they hint at it a much, much much more. There's that moment between the two of them, and then like throughout the course of this I see that they were shining away from it for whatever reason.
So I think we were focusing on the greater stakes at hand that were probably more important than a love story, right, I mean, there were lives hanging in the balance and this and that that. There wasn't time for any of that stuff. So it just wasn't as important as saving wookies or you know, whatever was on the menu, or even naming your sling shot. You know, you know, we had we had stuff to do, but we do need to come up with a name.
Perhaps we should pull let's work shot that with our listeners, gens ideas, make this a clip. You know, we'll throw out a poll. I feel like we'll get some very funny and interesting.
Yeah, that's for sure.
I feel like some of them, and you guys can definitely correct me when I'm wrong. Some of the writers had said that they were initially setting up for more of like potential relationship plays, but then overall Dave or someone was like, we're not going to go into anything like that. But I remember at like a dinner with writers or something that was brought up, or maybe it was just very solticistic for themselves and they were like, oh, I wanted something like that.
Because in Star Wars you don't find too much of that.
Correct Ohn, Leah and Han, I love you, I know, I mean there's some love, but I do think that the there's a mission that we need to carry out that's far more important than that. That was I think what came to be the overriding decision that there were many oh yes loves and yes DearS at the beginning, and then we were like, no, that's not appropriate. We need we we got to get to work, so uh, you know, spoiler alert when she has a child. I was kind of like, wait, guys, guys, guys, guys, what like I thought, we weren't okay, so great Portilla. Well we'll get to that, knowing knowing the epilogue, Oh my lord.
Anyway, this might just have been the impression I was under, but I always kind of it was my understanding that we weren't shying away from what was between uh, you know, the kind of relationship that she was.
To say, ready Canaan and uh had.
It's just that what Vanessa was saying, which is that there you know, we've got the list of priorities, it's you know, on the list of priority, showcasing their relationship and their intimacy or their tenderness or whatever was low on that priority list because we are saving lives. We're doing this, we're doing that, you know, we're taking down the empire one step at a time. And so I always felt like we're not We're not like pretending they're not. It's just that that is that that is that that exists, and it's sort of like present, but we don't focus on it because we're busy.
Yeah, it's almost tone deaf to the peril of what is all around us, Like it would be tone deaf to focus on something like that, you know, read the room, this is this isn't the time to go into romance.
This is the time to save lives.
And yeah, and also at the same time, you would want to earn that.
You know.
It's kind of like this is going to feel like an off a random example, but that show Moonlighting with Bruce willis like, yes, that show fell apart the moment that they got together, so it's like you want to build up to that, and you know, so I feel like this is the task at hand. But also in classic George Lucas and Steven Spieler is known to do this too. They're all about it can happen, you maybe just don't see it, and maybe you'll see some of the results of it. So I feel like it's just all on brand in that sense. And also if that's going to happen, then let us earn it, you know, and then when it does happen, and which we'll get there, you know, we got a few episodes they go before then then it's like, yes, Okay, it's just like it's a look I always hope for, like a Star Wars wrong com And I was like, it's gonna happen because it's Freddy Prince, you know, so you know, his track record speaks for itself. But if he did like the movie, she's all that and he gets Landy Bogs on the first act, it's like, well, this might as well have been a short film, Like what's the point of that? So it all happened the way it was supposed to happen, is what I would say. So I don't know if you have anything else you want to bring up, and if you don't, it's time for our favorite part of the podcast.
I just I.
Really I love Jac's back check, but I also really love.
Your intro, so oh thank you.
It's yeah for me right now. I second that third.
Well, I vote for JC because I don't want I don't want it to be Facelave victory, and because Jac is our guy too. But let's just say we're all equally awesome, and uh, we're all like the Triangle Offense of Phil Jackson. It's not going to work unless everybody's working on We.
Can admit I'm the caboose on this Tray, you can trust me. I still am pretty. I'm sure full there.
We're the starting five right here. So the starting five works in tandem. So that's that's TeamWorks, make the dream work and everything. So but thank you, thank you, all of you. I appreciate I appreciate you. And now, without further ado, let's give it up for the fact chat. What's our guy, JC? What do we got today?
All right? I don't have a lot today, but I do have some juicy good stuff.
Okay.
The first thing, Episode seven title is revealed on November six, twenty fourteen. This episode of Star Wars Rebels was released on demand on November third, but the air date on Disney XD was November tenth. So you guys made a Force awakened sandwich with Star Wars Rebels here. Wow, furknocks were This is the first appearance of them. We see them later in the Bad Batch episode of Clone Wars episode from the season seven that came out February twenty first, twenty twenty, and then in two more episodes of Rebels. We'll see them back in the Gathering Forces episode, which is episode nine I believe of season one of Rebels. Taylor, I just I know we're going to get to it, but I gotta shout you out. You're not crazy. In season three, episode ten, Folkrum is revealed as Callous takes on the Moniker and Grand Emerald Throne exposes him.
So honestly, guys, I'm telling you it's just incisive, incisive critically.
So how wait, I'm very confused. Hold up, hold up, so full Crum. When I'm talking to full Crumb, it's clearly a Soca's voice, but Callous misuses that idea.
I think it starts as a Soka and then it becomes it's like the agent.
Correct, correct, when he becomes on our side, he's part of ful Crum.
Yes, he the moniker once again. Ahsoka is revealed as full Crum to the audience Callous INZI Next one Create a relationship, and Callous continues to use the full Croum Moniker, which is review later on. So Taylor's not completely crazy, Nope, He's just he's just using the force to look ahead in a in a very Luke Skywalker good job.
The of the podcast is going to be now that Taylor actually knows everything, I will just let you down.
Fort Anaxis, get ready for this This is really exciting. There's a lot of fan speculation online that Echo base on Hawth was named for the character Echo from bad Batch because he is considered the hero of a Naxis after he used intel from when he was captured by the separatist forces. So kudos to the writer who modeled the fort after Echo based on Hawth to tie this back in in the future past back to the future sort of situation here.
Wow, I thought that.
I mean, that's so cool.
And we talked about just slightly do they say I love you? Do they say?
You know?
All of that stuff there There is a lot of it in Star Wars episode at the end of episode two, and a lot of it at the end of episode three between.
Are you talking about the films or our show?
Films? Films?
Got it?
There's a lot of a lot of lovey dovey stuff in the Star Wars film.
Oh well sure, padme. I mean yeah, there's that.
Yeah, that's all we got.
About our show.
That's great.
Yeah, I done.
As always, we love the Fact Tech with JC. Thank you all again once again for tune in a week after week. We're gonna have another. We're gonna have a great episode next week. A reminder, you can hit us up. You can write to us Potter Rebelling Podcast at gmail dot com. We want to hear from you fan theories. Do you also have a name for Ezra Slingshot. We're also going to make a social clip out of that, and we're at Potter Rebellion on Instagram. We're gonna post some of our social clips there, maybe some fun trip, maybe your Star Wars Insider articles, Vanessa, maybe that'd be cool.
Yeah, so sure, yeah we should that would that would be great. They're really moving ta you. You're so loved, you really are.
That's very funny.
Oh yeah, you should hear these little girls. It's so moving. It makes me so happy.
Well, we'll definitely make a social clip out of that. And I just you know, I love that you wrote for Star Wars Insider. I was in the Star Wars fan club back in like the nineties, and I got like the Star Wars Insider magazine back in the day too, So it's all it's all full circle when it comes down to it. So tune in again next week, everybody. We're gonna go over season one, episode eight, Empire Day. But until then, why do we say cue the music, Cue the music. Potter Rebellion is produced in partnership with iHeart Podcasts Producing, hosted by Vanessa Marshall, Tia Surkar, Tayla Gray and John Lee Brody Executive produce.
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