TGI - Episode 111 (“The Father/Son Game”)

Published Sep 15, 2022, 6:38 AM

Go ahead and separate the marshmallows out of your cereal because this episode is sweet! The gang is joined once again by Trina McGee to breakdown an episode written by a young Bill Lawrence, years before his success as the creator of Scrubs and Ted Lasso.

The father/son softball game becomes more of a father/son battle and Topanga takes on Cory in the great Pledge debate. This one is loaded with some hella cool BTS details you need to hear, including why rewatching it left a bad taste in everyone’s mouths (Hint: It’s not because of Minkus’ tainted hamburger). 

So I tell you all the time how many wonderful, amazing emails we get from our extremely thoughtful um and eagle eyed listeners. By the way, I just wanted to start today's episode by sharing some of them with you. We got an email from Jasmine who reached out about the impact of seeing Lindsay Price on our show and how the lack of diversity beyond mostly white and some black families on t g i F was always really hurtful to her, and she said she really wanted to give the teachers Bet episode a shout out because it meant a lot to her as a kid watching. And then someone named Laken see which seems like Christine Laken in a reverse and undercome undercover. Christine Laken told us about the t G i F routines they had as a child with their best friend, which is so cool to imagine now that people had full on must see TV, food and sofa position routines with their families and friends to watch us. 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We are talking about season one, episode eleven, The Father Son Game, which are generally aired December sevente The synopsis is when Korey and Eric find out that Alan has lied about the Father's son's softball game being canceled because he knows they don't want to attend, they make amends. It was directed by David Trainer and it was written by Bill Lawrence, who is gone on to be absolutely easily the most successful person to have ever been a part of Boy Meat's world. He is the creator of ted Lasso. He is the creator of Scrubs, Cougar Town, Spin City, Uh. He is yes, he is a mass We had a show on the air since the last thing he did every TV. He is also possibly one of the people responsible for making creating the name to Bangalowrens. We have that doesn't really math wise, that up to us time wise doesn't work, but we're still holding out home. He audition for him for a show Postboy Meats World, So this was I mean, this was in my early twenties. I met him for one of the shows that he was executive producing, and that was he said, Hey, I got fired on your show. I was like, what He's like, yeah, And to Pango Laurance, her last name is Lawrence because my last name is Lawrence, was like, I had no idea, but but you know who knows? Was he now? Was he there from the beginning? And then apparently he was our only spec script for the first season, so he there was always I believe there was a rule that we are show would take one script from outside of the writer's room every year. I don't know if I don't know why I think that I have that in my head that ABC wanted an outside writer, or if it was just a policy of Michael Jacobs in the writer's room. I don't know, but in my mind, every season we would have one episode that was written by an outside writer, um and that that was sort of a tradition or a rule of some sort, and his was that. So, which doesn't make sense for why to Pango would be named Lawrence. And it also doesn't sense that he then would have gotten fired. It was a spec script, so he would have only gotten fired if he was a staff writer. So we have some questions, Bill Lawrence, if you're listening to Pod Meets World, which like so much time you horse listening to us, but we'd love to have you on the podcast. I just see him sitting there on the set of ted Lasso and they're coming up asking questions like hang on episode nine of my rewatch of episode time now, So okay, let's jump into our recap. We start off in the Matthews kitchen. Oh we have how could I forget hold on? In this episode guest starring Willie Garson as Nannie Spinelli. So didn't he marry you too? Though he did? If? I think this is his second of three three appearances. He played three different characters on Boy Meets World, and I think this this is his first one. The Marrying Us may have been his third the third character he played um. So we start in the Matthew's kitchen. Morgan is eating breakfast and tells Amy that she has been up since six am. Corey enters and says that he loves Fridays because that means he's going to be home all weekend. Amy says that's the same reason she can't stand weekends. Corey is wearing double hoods again. I love a good double hood on this show. It is a long sleeve yellow short shirt with a hood, with a cream or white colored short sleeve T shirt over that, and then a purple hooded vest. So a real double hood. Look. It's just anytime we see double hoods, I get very excited. Then Eric enters and says that his weekend weather report might include a date with Cindy, and I'm gonna stop you right there. Can we talk very briefly about my t Rex arms? As I'm running down the stairs for some reason, I'm like this when I come down the stairs for I'm watching with my wife. She's like, what what are you pretending that you're holding? Like what? I come down the stairs like morning, It's so bizarre. With just the way I'm holding my like I hadn't learned arm acting yet. It was weird. It was just go back. You were yourself yet, like exactly exactly. So yeah, it was very very yeah, very two army. As I came down there, I didn't notice. I did not. I mean, of all the things, you were really hard on yourself. So uh. He says that his weekend weather report might include a date with Cindy depending on how cool he is in school that day, and the first mention of brand new. There's also that a Vicky front maybe moving in on Sunday. First time we've ever heard about Vicky. Um. And there's a cute little conversation between Eric and his mom where she says, don't mess with mother nature. Uh. Morgan is super hyper from all the sugar that she's been eating. She took out all the sugar pieces. Um, by the way, is a total myth. I have gotten just so many fights with so many parents about the sugar. Kid really know, and it's like the big everybody believes it. Like I've gotten into like serious knockdown, drag out arguments with parents at birthday parties where I'm like, don't worry about it, like they can eat as much sugar as they want. I mean, maybe don't eat sugar for other reasons, but it's not going to make them hyperactive, it tired. There's never been a scientific study to back that up, and yet every parent believes it because guess when you're eating sugar as a kid, it's because it's at a birthday party, or because your parents let you have sugar, because it's a special occasion for whatever. Exactly, there's a I did not know that exactly. So many I'm probably still going to get emails from listeners being like my kid yet so hyper with it, you know, because everybody believes it. It's one of those anecdotal versus scientific things and water, like you said, it's it's usually tied into a birthday party where they're overstimulated, so fire scream on the way home, and it's a treat, so they're always stimulated for that. Yeah, you're always. Yeah, Ever, didn't know that, didn't know that science? Learning your science. So Amy takes a hyped up Morgan upstairs and she keeps yelling, I've been up since six o'clock. Um Allan comes down and takes his baseball glove out of the oven, a place he uses it to store and work on his glove to break it in. Uh. This forces Corey to realize that tomorrow is the father's son's softball game and he expects Alan expects Corey and Eric to play in it. And you get the sense from the repeating of the same lines over and over again that will you and Corey are not excited about just laying out your father? But hold on, did this track for you, guys? Because this didn't track for me. I was like, I was like Corey, Corey, we've established would love this by this time, having watched all these episodes. He's a huge baseball fan. He was so stoked, you know, to meet Jim Abbott like and to play basketball with Sean, and he wants he wants to be a baseball player, So it makes no sense that he would be negative about this. It's purely like now at six, girls like, I'm not doing that at all, but Corey, who's twelve, not playing? Yeah, I also would have bought it if he had something in particular he also really wanted to do and was doing something that we Yeah, over the weekend, he came back to describe it like He kept talking about how all he wanted to do was lay around and play video games, which is now that tracks for now, but like now that makes sense, like get outside and play and I'm gonna sit here and play video games, but that back in the day that didn't make like he went out and played baseball. Yeah, there were there were a few things about this episode that I was like, hm. I also thought most of the time it will get into more, but most of the Corey Eric stuff where we're saying the same stuff, it was so sitcoming, like this was really they were working hard. They were they were trying you guys out as a duo. H. I think they even trying different SITCOMI music when you I noticed, I'm sure there's a little extra like yeah, it's funny, Trina, but you're right, oh that's funny. All right. Then we get our credits, which is, Trina, what do you think about the Boy Meets World theme song? Season one? Thank you? You know? Funny enough? I tried to change the same theme song here. I remember I was so supportive of you, Trina. You should have been your I don't know, it wasn't doing music studio. So I wrote a song that she was an amazing singer. Yes, I remember, I remember you playing it for me in your dressing room and be like, yes, she she went and did it on her own. Do you still have it? Do you still have it? No? But I remember I can sing it with this whole world will pass you by your future, You'll never come in a little boy and much bliser boy did now the World and it goes by needs world, everybody talking by Need which already you did these crazy cool production things in it too, Like I remember you were you like you doubled your voice and you did like the reverse voice vocal thing. Yeah, you had this like crazy. So even though that sounds like a kind of predictable theme song, the recording was really innovative. And I remember being like, Trina, this is awesome, yeah, because you like just went did it in a studio with a producer friend of yours or whatever, And I remember you. I was like, Trina, you have to go do this, like this would be so much better than what we have and Michael would have nothing to people have been paid for years Michael. Michael's a musician too, so that it was like if he didn't do it or help, you know, it was such a cool I remember what I'm more concerned about that first season. The graphics. Let's just baseball thing, it's the band aid. Yeah, well that's another good point. It's literally in the graphics all about him playing baseball, and yeah, he doesn't want to go play baseball. Like that's the whole Yeah, that's the whole show. Show literally in the opening, a little creole kid with like it's so. Then we are in Phoinie's classroom, the classes standing and reciting the pledge of allegiance, but to Panga is still in her seat. She tells Mr Foine she elected not to stand because she didn't feel like it. Corey says he can't wait to see Mr Foenie call out to Panga for being weird. But Mr Feenie gives a lesson on social protest and says, Okay, you guys are now on opposing positions in a debate that they plan on having this morning, so timely, This is really timely. It was. Yeah, this is one of those great boy Beats World moments where you agree, great, they're gonna address this, you know, complexly. We're not going to just like have an easy answer. It's going to be complicated, and there's going to be a conversation about it. I also have to say, Danyale, you were so good in this. It's like it's like you are so comfortable. You're no longer doing a like to Pango voice to pango rhythm. You're just in it. You're listening to Ben, You're reacting to hit. It's like I was astounded at like the difference in performance, like your game. You know, you're just comfortable. I think you were fine more comfortable now. Yeah, we've been uptill three o'clock in the morning studying your lines and doing your hair. Yeah, I figured out the rhythm of how to spend all the all the moments of my day being stressed out. Now I really was just more comfortable. Um. And and also there were less um things that were like off the wall weird. I wasn't I wasn't channeling or receiving a voice. I was just making a good argument. I was just making a good argument. And and so it was it felt much more like, yeah, I can I can inhabit this and have it be grounded. The discussion that's been happening in our country for the last what six or seven in a huge way. Well, yeah, that's true. I was going to say, but like the Pledge of Allegiance discussions, but going on since the Oh yeah that's but I make just what's going on in sports and everything. It was very timely. Well, Bonnie's world is very American, and I think people have to realize that America has a very exaggerated sense of patriotism countries, you know, so it's it's a lot when we don't do the flag and all that. Women's world hit it real good, you know, disrespect that's all. Yeah, I thought I thought this was I thought this was really interesting. Um, it bummed me out a little bit that Topeango was put up to it and it wasn't just something that she was doing on her own, and that it didn't kind of prompt the discussion naturally. I was more bummed out by the the later scene actually, like resolution of this, which we'll get to you because yeah, by the actual how it worked out anyway. Yeah, at this point I actually didn't think there was a good connection between the two. There isn't a good connection we talk about can we also talk about how this entire class from Pledge of Allegiance to Bell ring is sixty seconds lass, Yeah, it happens twice. They do it twice. It's like, I'm sorry for entire class, and then end with the pledge of allegiance. Why the classroom scene, it just you're in the beginning weird. Yeah, that is really weird. It's like, let's and then it's like, yeah, real short class, real short class. So in this scene to Panga says that if she has to recite the pledge every day, even though she doesn't understand it, that doesn't make her happy. But Corey says, it's like ten seconds long. Why not just do it and make everyone happy? And he does it because he's a great American and he gets into a political speech that writer is Sean is you know, singing trumpeting for? And uh, by the way, did you guys hear me say just because it's a tradition. I remember how hard it was, for whatever reason for me to get the words out. Just because it's a tradition. It's a tradition, was so hard. And I like the tradition, like I stumble over it so much. So thank you for the compliment about in that scene. But that's all I could hear was, oh my gosh, did you hear the way I said that? I said it like I didn't know how to talk. I don't know, pull up your real and tell us what. So then we are in the school cafeteria. Corey and Sean talk about parents not understanding how important the weekends are. They shouldn't be forced to do anything like this father's son's softball game, and then Mincus walks over and says, there are only three days until Monday, which good, so good. He is so great. He hates the weekends because he loves that tension to every time he comes in he doubted he was just so much better than me. That's how I looked at him, like, my god, he was a good actor. Oh he's so good, he's so What's crazy to me that what bob with this scene and then the next cafeteria is that we have to keep rationalizing why we're talking, to make us into paying every time I have to say some like the nerd tables over there, why don't you like to hang with that season it's such a yeah, we just we just Corey and Sean were the normal cool kids and everybody else is just a weirdo nerd and we have to keep reiterating it. I'm just I just wish like I'm sure. I'm sure by like the next two or three episodes, we just have to let that go because they keep having to rationalize why we're talking to each other. But you guys are all I like how you have two part conversations like you're talking like they have. I think they happen several times this episode where there's like two parts that old nineties like you can't hear this person talking over Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I'd also like to point out that everybody, everybody in the cafeteria was not eating and had a full, untouched burger on their plate. Everybody, all the background people, everybody full burger like it had just been delivered and everyone was just waiting five minutes before they were going to eat it. It was and stuff. I ate everything right in every scene. This is the only scene you didn't eat it until I'm eating. In this scene you had to wait to eat to get the joke at the end, so you didn't eat to get the joke. But every other scene you're sitting there, you're you're eating. Yeah, you're you're Brad Pitt in all the movies where he's what the oceans of Levan's movie, or he's just every movie he's always Yeah. So Sean says that Minca's seat is over at the goon table, and Mincas says that he is only leaving his food there for a second while he goes to get an apple, and Sean is so tempted to sabotage mincas is hamburger, and he eventually pours an entire container of salt and puts putting on his burger, and the audience groaned like a uh, can I just say something? Why did you have to be mean to him? It was like there was a demon in you. I had to come back and that. This doesn't make me sound very bright, but I'm going to admit it. I actually thought you were looking at the burger like, oh my gosh, I have to eat it. And I said, I said, why, why? Why can he not take his eyes off MICUs Is burger. He's got his own burger right in front of him. But I thought it never even occurred to me that you would sabotage his burger. What I actually thought is that you were like, old man, I have to eat it. I have to eat it. And then when you went to go dumb salt on it. I was like, ah, it was not fun. By the way, this is this is the first episode. I'm now officially in the boat with you writer. This is the first episode that I remembered nothing of nothing. I didn't remember the story, I didn't remember shooting it. I remember nothing of us. I remember nothing. But once I was seeing things like, I was like, oh, yeah, I do something to his burger, you know, like that came to my mind, but like actually doing it or what the storyline of the episode was. No, I got this is the first one part for you, no idea. Yes, I think we clicked into a groove by this point. This was like ten episodes in we're on a TV show. We just do our weekly routine, and we guess we weren't nervous anymore, you know, We're just we don't look nervous. You're in it now, But I didn't know what it was. So Mincus comes back and he asks if Corey did anything to his burger, and then he outwits them by uh pretending to switch the burgers, and Sean then and Corey end up saying that, um, who do they say is across the Stephen across each other. Yeah, Steven, he turns and looks, and then Sean switches the Burgers thinking he's switching them back and want want Mincus has outsmarted you because he is smarter than everyone there. That's a very good scene in I'd like to that. It was good. I thought that was a pretty good whampwamp to Danielle, Yeah, it was, It's pretty good. I like the wamp wump. I was into the wamp wump. I wasn't ish talking the wampwomp. Okay, she committed, all right. Then we're in the Matthews kitchen. Corey sees Alan practicing for the softball game. He enters, so he okay, backyard side yard. Cory comes around the corner. He sees Alan playing with the big net that's set up there, and then he backs up and goes the other way and ends up coming in the French doors that are in the living room at the back of the house. So there's definitely a side yard on that side. Correct, there's a side or there is, but it is not a big backyard because one why wouldn't Alan then go play out there, because because everything's done on the side yard next to Pheni's because that's except for the fact that Will. As Eric later in the episode says, big circle. I put it in a big circle. He says, backyard, we get to it. We'll get to that. It would be you saying it exactly so um. When Corey sees his dad, he backs up and he goes in the French doors. As Eric enters, he comes in I think the front door, and then they end up meeting in the kitchen, not seeing that Amy, their mom is there. So um. They say there's no way they're getting out of the game. They turn around, Amy's there. She wants to know what they're talking about. Eric says the game just isn't exciting for them. He has a date, and Amy says it means a lot to Alan and they shouldn't ditch him. The boys try to get Amy to help them get out of the game. She says no, and Morgan um uh. It has to begs her mom to go to the bank with her, which I thought is such a perfect child thing. That's exactly what they do that. Then they had her in this oversized plaid Shirtta curtain. Can I ask a question, do they specify when the game is because why unless they're playing a night game under lights, which you'd never do for a father's son game, why would this interfere with Eric's date? His date it's a day date because it was the same thing with the library he wants to go on Sunday. It's like their day dates. I mean, I know that the first one, the first one was a ten pm. But I think that these dates are kind of they're starting in the day. I was I was curious about that. Okay, yeah, I'll buy it. I'll buy it. Um not that day dates are very popular when you're in high school. Of course you want to go out at night, but I think their day dates. So we're in Eric and Corey's bedroom. Eric realizes it's the father's son game, not the father's son's game. Only one of them has to go loophole, Corey says, so. Then Eric says, good luck, you're the one who's going, and Corey says he doesn't want to be the one to go. Then they start basically threatening and blackmailing each other with well what if says this? And I joke and they basically start saying, I'm going to tell dad some of your secrets that I know. Um. They decided that the only way to resolve this is to let Alan choose which son is going to play, and so they run down to the living room, fighting each other the whole way, and Eric and Corey start going back and forth with their goofy excuses, and Alan says he actually just got a phone call and the game has been canceled because they couldn't drum up enough interest. Okay, so I just want to point out will Alan is acknowledging that finally he's got another son. He actually lets you speak first. I noticed that. I noticed. I also noticed, for some reason, once again, they've decided I don't ever wear belts. I don't know why, like Eric is just never in a belt, which I find Did you have a shirt? Did you have a shirt tucked in? Ye? Tucked in shirt. No belt. Again with your hair though in those scenes, well really thank perfect it was LORI doing your hair was like the perfect No, it was somebody else first season, but yeah, we uh we did. And then and then the smile where I tried to do the smile. Did you see that? I tried to throw that in at the end of the conversation, and it just epic fail, like does not work at all. So what do you mean when when when in the last scene, Eric says to him, this is what a sincere smile looks like, and he does the big smile. I try to throw that in in the middle of the scene and nobody picks it up, like it just doesn't work. So I just look like I'm I'm having some problem in my brain. We're all of a sudden, I'm just going for no reason. It's really weird. It's really weird. If I didn't notice, very weird. And then when I run out, but when I run out and I say that to to Corey, when Eric says to Corey, like, you know, is the library open on Sunday? Says, I have no idea, and Eric weirdly goes, not bad bad? What was that? Obviously a Michael Jacob's joke to me, it was like I had to but I don't remember it. I may not be right, but I know I am. That was clearly a saying like this not bad because it just came out of nowhere. Comes out of nowhere, you go, not Mann. It's just he was that that is so funny. I wrote that, Yeah, very very odd. But you're right, that was probably bad, very funny. So um, Alan ends up leaving and he says, I don't worry about it. There will be other games. Um. And then we're in the school cafeteria. It is Monday, and Sean asks Corey how his weekend was. He says it was great because he just relaxed and played video games. Then Topanga comes over and says she missed seeing Corey at the softball game, which prompts Corey to ask, what softball game are you talking about? And Topanga reveals that there was indeed a game between Corey's dad's grocery store and her father's bookstore. Book I forgot that Jedediah owned a bookstore. Wasn't ask where did that come from? That's the first and maybe only time that gets mentioned. I'm not positive fix his guitars after that? Right? Oh good, because because that's one of the things he has to do, is he has to fix Alan's guitar. He's like delivering it. At one point, I'm glad you remember that. I could be wrong, but I think I'm right. I think I'm right. That sounds like okay, yeah, okay. And then we also have to make a Topanga's beamed down like rationalized and it's the Unicorn Rainbow Bookstore. It's like, okay, they're hippies. We get I feel like there were two topanga's fighting, like the hippie Topanga and the like the real Danielle that was would talk fast and be organized and have it together. They knew you were like that, so they kept slipping it in there and then came later over. Yeah, that's exactly that is exactly what happened. Eventually they were like, let's just right to the person we have in front of I think that was the getting like the them doing that because it didn't make sense for you to like have this information and be so smart in school and then be like this nebula. I was thought that was kind of strange, but I understand they were. They were just trying to get get it on, So they were just trying to work it out for long, long seasons. As we go. Yes, so Corey finds out the game was never canceled and that Alan. I thought it was that Alan played with Lenny from his grocery store, but yeah, he made no sense to me. Then later when he says he wasn't there there. That's what I don't understand. I was almost with his son. Yeah, Like I don't get it. He took this place of Alan represent the grocery store. It was that the guy represented the Sun's he was the Suns that I thought that it was. Alan and Lenny played together almost like Lenny was filling in for the Suns. But then later in the show, Alan says, well, I wasn't even there. I didn't go because you guys and go with me like I didn't have such said the exactly right. Didn't a bank to say that he's there? Yeah, didn't he didn't, or did I that it was representing the storm. Okay, So I guess I really took from it that Allen was there, but I don't think I actually directly said it. I think I just I think it was we we implied that he went anyway, or we assumed that he went anyway. So later we find out he did not. So we're in Eric and Corey's bedroom. Well, so Corey finds out the game was never canceled, and he feels like maybe it's possible that his dad didn't want to play with him. So we are then in Eric and Corey's bedroom. The boys have brought Amy into the room, and she reveals that Alan knew they didn't want to play in the game, and so he lied to them about it being canceled. This is where it got super super sick. Com me for me with the whole like he knew, he knew immediately. It was like while they were trying, you know, I mean, it wasn't bad, I wrote. Don was like Will and Ben were like a comedy duo, Like this didn't really happen that often. Later yeah, later it was you know, I remember you guys having scenes where you were, you know, ridiculous Eric and Ben was kind of the straight man. But in this case, you guys are like building on each other and really fun. I didn't dislike it. It was just very sitcom. It's just the writing is very very bump bumped. But no, it wasn't I wasn't bad. It was just like, Okay, this is really yeah, we're there, Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. Um. So they asked for her help, she says, nope, this one is on you. Corey knows that they made their dad feel bad. Corey and Eric realize that they are bad sons. In this moment, Eric is wearing a red T shirt, a blue collared button down and a three quarters at pull over three. Yeah. Of course were so heavy in that season. Everything just feels so heavy. And the colors, the navy blue, burgundy cream color scheme is just heavy. It's a lamp and yeah, and stripes, very solid bright colors that were very, very layered and heavy. Yeah, pretty much, pretty much. I mean you're in the house, you're like relaxing, and you're in three layers. Yeah, yeah, exactly. The thing that was weird is when I earlier, when I came in from outside, I was wearing a jacket, but Corey wasn't. So it's like, apparently I Eric gets a chill easily, is what I'm gonna go with, Yeah, because he's so old. Yeah, that's what my Yeah. So we're in the Matthews kitchen, Lenny with a broken arm bangs on the backyard glass with a box of food that the boys called and asked him for um. And so I did think this was actually kind of a funny, running, really subdued joke that someone always gets hurt at these softball games, like one of the dad's tries, someone tries too hard, takes it too seriously, someone always gets hurt. I thought that was kind of a cute thing because it feels very much like Dad's who try too hard. I just I could see that really happening. So in this case, it was Lenny. Lenny broke his arm. Um and the boys say that they knew about the game and this is why they're not going to throw their dad like a barbecue. Lenny says that the boys aren't supposed to know about the game, and he kind of freaks out about needing to keep all of these secrets and he says, no, I broke my arm by getting out of a turtleneck. He's so fright, He's just it's such a character. But well, this is clearly written to bring Willy back, Like you know, this happened. This whole sequence exists for Willie Garson to come on our show and be funny because they grew up together. He and Michael Jacobs grew up to Okay, can I tell you When Willie goes into his rant, I felt like I was hearing Michael. It just was exactly sounds and everything that Michael would say. I was like Michael just talking to him. Quis for these lines basically no, I mean WILLI Willie was just I mean, I think Willie was just so funny and such a good act her and because he doesn't make any sense that he's inserted into this whole episode just for comic relief and you know, bringing back a very funny actor. So so how about with that in mind, writer, last last rewatch you you started a new segment about kind of doing some trivia from the nineties, and so I think I told you I'd take it over for this week, which I which I did, and I think this should be the Willie Garrison Memorial Trivia Willie Garson excuse me memorial trivia game this week. Now, it was a little more difficult this week because a number of the questions we had last week, Trina were like, what was the number one song in the country at the time, what was the number one movie? And since we're only a week later, a list of all the trivia today in front of that's great, So she's already Oh no, I I So I took it another way because we because we had a number of the questions questions, Oh, I'm gonna do the music questions, but I'm gonna do what was the number one song in the U kay at the time. I do I know this? Okay, Okay, I'm gonna give you the I'm gonna give you some some possibilities and you can pick with that. Do you give me multiple choice? I We'll get this all right, So here we are. So so for the record, it was December seventeen is when this episode aired, which is also at the time was the fifty one Friday of that year, so so everybody knows on that day. By the way, I'll give you a bunch right now. The next time, you can use your nine calendar and all the day's matchup is seven, so you can use your calendar. The the holidays will be different, but all the days will be the same. Research on the internet exactly this day in history. In nineteen oh three, Orville and Wilbur Wright had their first manned flight, and in ninety seven, on this day in history, the Simpsons debut. So we now have certain certain things now, So here's my question. Since we knew it was still I think last time we talked the number one songwriter in the country was do you remember what it was? It was? No, okay, I think it was again by Jane which it is still in this and this Friday is still the number one uh song in the US is still again by Janet Jackson. So now we're going to take it to the UK. So in the UK, was it was it, Oh, Carolina by Shaggy, Barbie Girl by Aqua or Mr Blobby by Mr Blobby, Aqua Girl. I'm gonna say Barbie Girl, none of those. I think it was the first one. You think it was Carolina by Shaggy? No, no, no, no, it had to be the Barbie Girls song. But I think I got different. I'm gonna look, I've had another. It was not. It was something called Mr Blobby by Mr Blobby was the number one song in the UK according to my um. What was the highest grossing film in the UK in all of nine? Because again we already we've done the US. So was it not just this week? No? All of Was it A The Fugitive B, Jurassic Park or See the Bodyguard? Yeah? Okay, now bringing it back to since Trina might have a cheat sheet, I'm bringing it back to something far more obscure. We're going back to the US. Now. In in the in the month of December, what was the highest selling the highest selling car in the United States. Was it number one the Nissan Pathfinder, number two the Honda Accord, or number three the Ford Taurus. Taurus I'm going with the Accord writer is corrected as the Hord Tourist. Row was the one with the backwards seats. If I remember in the you could sit back where the kids could say really added an extra row. I think that's why it was a big deal. Is now completely illegal, but at the time you could have seats where you faced backwards, like yeah, that's why. Our final question in this the Willie Memorial trivia question, what was the number one selling candy? Was it a her She's Cookies and Cream? Be Warheads or see peanut butter Eminem's. Oh, I gotta go with m peanut feel like peanut butter Eminem's might have been new right around, but so might have been Warheads. I was gonna say warheads. I'm going to say warheads. That just sounds nineties warrand Trina goes the first one, Peanut butter Eminem's Cookie Cream. I'm gonna go with Warheads. My feelings are warheads. Warheads is correct correct answer Cookie Hershey's Cookies and Cream was the number one selling candybar four and peanut butter Eminem's was the number one in one. Did not really hit all those and that overall pretty good trivia. Thank you, congratulations everybody, and rest in peace. Choice bringing in the UK. Since the answers were all still kind of the same. There all the same. Next week will be Spain or something, because you're all gonna be the same again. There. We knew you were going to put together a cheat sheet. He doesn't knew it. She's always prepared, that's the thing. Yes, Okay, So Lenny, you know, freaks out about the no the boys knowing about the game. The boys ignore Lenny. They're going through the different items that he brought and he says that he has personal issues and they end up feeling like they need to invite him to the barbecue with Alan, so they do. They invite him, And then that was any bet, that was a funny beat with that, with the kind of where he just steps up he's like severe emotional like that was that was funny. Did I just say Alan has a line in that scene? I think it is so funny. He says, real men needs no real men eat salad with their hands. Oh yeah, in the backyard. Yeah. So then in the next scene when they're actually the barbecue or he cuts the lettuce a laugh and he says, salad done. And Alan says, yeah, this is a recurring thing because they did this with the sandwiches. They've done this now with the sandwiches like twice, this whole like much eat like this and improvement. I think that is Will have a question, did they just give them that knife like that? He was, I'm sure, I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure. Absolutely, here's the knife, chop it up and then the safety was probably like you know, the yeah, the metal parts like that was it. But you know, I love a good wedge salad, so it's kind of the joke. Don't love a wed salad. Just no blue cheese, make your rich, no taste except the cheese. I'm a big Iceberg fan. Anyone get into the Iceberg remain debate and join our next podcast. My favorite lettuce exactly, Macho salad that's mine? Is that your favorite lettuce? Oh my god, we're really going here. This is great. Everybody knows that butter let Us is the best. No, I Spurge is not had lunch together hair masquerading has lettuce. No, you can wrap good sandwiches in it instead of bread. You can use it. It's a great wrappingly you know what. I spergs my rider die kaleks. Oh my god, there was like there were like ten years they were. Everything was like kale salad sale. Kale has the same publicist that coliflower has no delicious, But it's a coliflower crust and a califlower toilet seat, my college coliflower. He's got the same publicist. I'm telling you. We actually it's going to be our most emailed segment. Of course, we did everyone out there, everyone else out there. Let's put together who were sorry, what's your favorite lettuce? You have to fix your hair? No, do it better. But it was like down right here and don't prepare. And I'm in my room which is a thousand degrees right now. Oh my god. It was so funny. Days eat in four days. That's why you want to talk about salad? Can we talk about salad? Please? All the things I would do to a salad right now. You even know there's this running there's this running gag about Lenny being on pain killers. So he gives us a little painkiller joke Corey and Eric then sidebar inside the house. Yeah, and they chat that Alan. They think Alan is hating the night. It's not as good as the softball game that they should have just done. They realized they should have just gone to the game and they need to make it up to Alan. So the next day, there in Phoene's classroom and during a lecture to Penga in that amazing green dress that I loved, I think I've worn it before, I talked about it. I bought it for my personal life. Couldn't say enough wonderful things about that green dress. Boy, did I love it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Danielle. We have to go back very quickly. I can't believe even though you kind of mentioned it, you didn't mention that. Eric says, backyard. I know that is the scene. That is the scene, and it is in big letters, and my fans in the backyard. Yeah, we have to say it took place in that yard, said exterior backyards. Strange house. So then, but then it's a strange because then where did where did Corey come from? Did he walk past the front yard, past the front door, past the side door to the backyard. Then I think up to the to the Matthews house is a corner house. And there's actually been a couple of diagrams online and I think one of them is correct, but reversed. I would put the street basically on the side where Corey came from, I think is the other street. But then why walk by that door to go to the backyard? And then why is why does Willie say I'll go move my car and runs out the back door? Who runs out the back door to get there? Because there's there's a street. So there's a street running by the Matthews house and then Mr Feeney's house. There's a stream that direction, and if you're coming from school, you can cut through the backyards are cut through that street to get to the backyard. I think that's I'll draw a diagram. Yeah, i'd like to see I would like to see this made in lego, please, because I still don't understand what's happening. It's the strangestly designed house ever. I think I understand what you're saying, writer, and I think you're right. We've seen a diagram that somebody did that was awesome, and I think you're right that the st like this, but if they're the street in front of it, the streets like basically the one online that I saw somebody put the street where the cameras are. That there is a street where the cameras the camera is. I would say opposite that that on the other side of the house through the French doors is a side yard and then a street and that street runs straight through. So Mr Feeney has a driveway off of that street. So there's also a street in front of the front door or what you're saying exactly, yes, yes, okay, yeah, I don't know. I need to see it. I need to see it, and I need to see it on a writer will draw up something I'd love to see. I want to see this. Um okay, so she says. Benga says she doesn't want to wear shoes either, and Sean says as the people who sit behind her, they object to the idea. Corey tells the class he used to think everyone should recite the Pledge of allegiance because it was a tradition, but now he thinks it's dumb to do something and not know why you do it. He says, if there is something you care about, like the country, you live in or the father you have allegiance is something you should show. So is now where we want to jump into the This not really necessarily connecting. I know, writer, you had what did you do to Phoenie then he had to respect him? Later? Did you do something bad? No? I think I think he does. I think he's just doesn't you know, treat Feenie with respect is the point. But I was just I just thought this was a very convoluted argument because to me, like the whole point of Topanga refusing to sit down, or the whole point of what Course starts to say is don't do something blindly, you know, do something because you actually care about it. But then that ends up being an argument for having blind allegiance because because I care about my country, because I care about my father, I may just have allegiance to them. And it's like, well, you started off this argument by saying you should only do something because you know why you're doing it. So it's a very like kind of have your cake and eat it too, twisting of logic in my opinion. But it's like they didn't want to offend anyone, you know, and I just didn't like the Topanga doesn't have a voice in this debate, like she doesn't get to stand up for what she's you know, or not stand up in this case, for what she didn't the first scene, so it just felt like it felt like, you know, boy Meats World took the nudge in the right direction with that first scene, and in the second scene was just like, and let's wrap it all up so we can make a good point right now. The question, though, is did to Pango really hold that view or because it's established that she was asked to sit down to start the debate, so did she actually hold that view or did she not actually hold that view? I think never the view that she doesn't know why they do the Pledge of Allegiance, which is kind of all she stands up for, and says like why should we do something we don't know why we do it? Um, you know, I don't know. I guess it would have been a great like if Corey had taken the time to actually walk through the Pledge of Allegiance and describe the beats and why he does believe in these things. That makes sense, right, But he doesn't. He just says like allegiance is defined like this, and so I'm going to have allegiance. It's just kind of like, you know, it's such a rabbit hole when you try to tackle that, like they had to kind of I kind of, I mean, what do you do? They shouldn't really brought it up. It's such irrabbitable. Yeah. Well, I also think there's it's an interesting point that we have on the show in this case, and when we talk about, you know, patriotism in general or allegiance, we talk about it a lot on this podcast, the idea that you can be critical of something and still not disrespectful of it um and the that is more what should have been brought up in this which is ta Pega. I could see her having the point of I don't necessary, I don't agree with everything. All the decisions are country makes, and so I'm not I'm allowed to be critical of of of the country that I'm from. Just because I was born here doesn't mean I need to stand up and say every single thing my country as I stand behind the same way you can look at people in your life and say just because I am critical of the decisions that you've made or critical of some of the things you have said, does not mean that I don't love you and respect you. So that would have been a great discussion. But that's not quite that's not obviously him going to father's son game is not being critical of Alan as a father or even really disrespectful. It's just not wanting to go to the father's son game. I mean, this country, this country was founded on being critical of the government. That's one of the things the founding father specifically put in the constitution is you are supposed to look to see what the government is doing, and if it's doing something wrong, you're supposed to do something about it. That's literally in the constitution. So there is a there's also a difference between saying in the father son aspect of it, I don't want to do this. The softball game doesn't mean anything to me, but it does mean something to someone who is very important for me. So I'm going to put my own needs on the back burner for right now and prioritize the needs of someone that is a priority. Different argument, and it's a totally different argument. Then I don't like it. They don't connect to these two things, the pledge of allegiance and this thing that he changed. And I argue this is the first time that's happened where it doesn't wrap up to where it's like, oh, how how Phoenie was establishing it and then how it was resolved matched perfectly. This is the first time that really didn't happen because I also still don't really understand the argument. Is what he's saying is so I should have just the arguments used for the pledge of allegiance at the beginning. It takes ten seconds. Just do it to make someone happy, is now what he's saying he should have done for his dad, and so just agreeing with himself, Like so he's repeating the same argument. He's just using the word allegiance. But in all fairness, they write to that because he says, Phoenie says, did you change your mind? He said, no, I didn't change my mind. I can just argue it better. So it's still the same opinion, but it's an opinion of something that wasn't really matching with what it should have been. Like, you know, the the greater point is like what Peene was trying to sort of get to Panga to argue, which is, you know, is there a version of like civil disobedience that is okay, you know, and like, that's a way more interesting conversation than this son, just because your dad wanted you to. And again, if Daniel's right, had it been written where it's like there are some times you have to do stuff that has nothing to do with you, that you don't want to do, but it will make somebody you love happy, that's okay, that's a different thing. And again that's a different speech at the end that he could have given, but it wasn't that at all. And also that you could still love something and be critical of it. Both of those would have been Either one of those would have been amazing, and yet literally just kind of got dropped like, yeah, yeah, we love were critical of it. That's what's the show. It's our show. So yeah, very strange. So either of those could have been great, but we he he kind of gets up and says what he says, and um, Mr Feenie asks if Corey believes that you should respect the traditions of the government, group or a person. Corey says, yes, he should have, and then Phoenie asks how about a teacher? And then the bell rings and everybody professions out for a minute. Class everybody runs out and no one else will have noticed this, but I of course noticed it because when I'm in a scena can't take my eyes off myself. Is to wait to let you go ahead of him. I trip. I kick the chair. I think it's Dusty's chair. I like kick the leg of it and fully trip. I tripped. I didn't even notice that A noticed Ben like weirdly letting to Panga go in front of him. I was like, oh, because he's going to stop at the doorway and say something. Of course he has to let me get But I fully trip. Absolutely incredible trip. It's the trip I do every time I trip. It's a big, big just jump forward one big it is. It is a Danielle signature. I can't apparently been doing it since I was twelve so or probably even younger. So Phoenie walks across the classroom to a stack of books, kicks up the book, flips it open to a random page, and starts reading it, which is which is perfect that that's what he wanted to do in that moment, because who comes back in but Corey with his backpack on backwards. What oh yeah, he literally he went through the wrong strap. So the backpack is completely backwards, and it's like, hey, Mr Feenie while you're reading randomly. Yeah, it was his backward backpackers on backwards, okay with his backwards back back, and he does say or a teacher, Phoenie gives a Phoenie smile and a little shake of the head. It's a classic sitcom Momenta straight a teacher. Yeah exactly. I know. He doesn't even say anything. He just kind of acts like, oh sweetie. So then we're back in the Matthews living room. Corey and Eric come downstairs because they can't sleep and they want to tell Alan. They hold on, am I gonna talk about that? To sleep? He's wearing two shirts yes, well before we even get there, yes, and then pressed sleeps and two shirts, little shirts. Three shirts have the mountain shirts. That's appropriate to go out in the world. Two shirts you sleep. But before we get to that, This to me is one of the most natural because I do it. I grew up watching my dad do it. The Alan doing the quote. We call it the rounds in my house, doing the rounds before you go to bed, walking, making sure every lock is locked, picking stuff up off the floor. It is such a natural thing. I watched my dad do that every single night, and I do it now every night before I go to bed. So just watching that his quote unquote business this week was so real that it was like he's doing his rounds right before he goes to bed, and it was great. It was so natural. Thing was just like yep, checking the locks. Yeah, you check all the locks every night before you go to bed. It was so great. Yeah, I saw my dad in that moment. It was so great. So you guys come down, Like I said, Corey sleeps in two shirts, which is pretty amazing. Um, he's also got socks and slippers on, which of course, so Alan says, no, don't worry about it, guys. You threw me a barbecue where even now and they say, oh no, we're way past that guilt. They asked what the score was of the Father's Son game and he says that they got creamed eighteen to three. Again, another thing that doesn't make sense to me in this story. When did we find out we never found out? When did he admit that they knew about the game, that the barbecue was a men's like he just gets glossed over. It's a very bizarre episode. It is it's a bizarre episode where there's a lot of tensions that aren't really face to face, you know, Like I kept feeling like scenes would end, Like even the first scene with with Betsy when she like leaves with moregan to go to the bank. I remember being like, what changed in that scene? Like nothing, Like basically they saw that he was preparing for the father son game, they talked to Amy about it, and then she leaves, Like no decisions were made, no conflict was sort of brought to the surface. It's a very that keeps happening throughout this episode. The only thing I'll say to that point that does kind of happen is she lets them know no one's getting you out of this. She she says, I'm not helping you, which then implies no one's helping you. This is on you to make right. But there's like three scenes in a row where Eric and Corey don't make any decisions and they don't make any progress. They just sort of, you know, they decided on that barbecue that is the move. But like like you just pointed out, they never actually say to Alan, we threw you this barbecue because we felt bad about the father's son she's just this all knowing dad thing. You know what she does really well? He does that I already know. And also it feels like that would have been a really interesting conversation, So Dad, why did you lie to us? Why? Well? And like whatever that conversation was, something juicy would have come from it. And In said, it's just kind of glossed over, like did he say you know? Did? I don't know? I just there was was the thing back then? Look at us, We're just not going to talk about it. It's so true. Valid point, Valid point, man, did anyone else notice? I'm gonna ask, did anyone else notice? I'm mouthing the lines again in this scene? I'm mouthing the lines again. Those lines I was mouthing. I think they're Allan's twice now, two episodes in a row. I'm mouthing the lines along. Why did you finally figure this out? I have No, I'm not sure I have. I don't know if I'm there seven seasons and like, I'm still doing this. Just have to memorize everybody's line? Yes, yes, Will would memorize everything. Any time he heard it once. He would just say it aloud once and he would have it memorized, So it was memorized. So that's the thing. So I'm now that I'm literally I'm just mouth flaps are going along with it was either Corey or Allan, but I'm talking along with one of them, Sonny. So Alan says he wasn't even at the game. The boys say that it's so now the boys just decided to totally turn it on him. They say it's a tradition to make the sun's go, and Alan broke the tradition by not forcing them to go, and that's why they lost. So just wild gas lighting. Your fault, your fault, you know what. We wanted to make amends because we felt bad, but ultimately, after thinking about it, it's actually your fault. Um. They asked if Alan wants to play a softball game against the Bookstore next weekend instead of waiting until next year, and they high five yes, and then Corey says, all right, I'm back to back to bed in my button up. Um, a lot of anti hippie sentinel. It's right. I was kind of vege heads. Yes, I was man stuff happening. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Your legendary vegetarian new ag was so mean. Well again, the name of the bookstore, the name that Rainbow Unicorn bookstore. It's like it's like, yeah, exactly, Well, we talked about this briefly with Topenga's obsession with yoga, and in a previous episode that, um it probably new age stuff was not nearly as um accepted or out there rise again like yeah, it was probably just starting to be something that people were, you know, talking about friends were hippies growing up. All my friends followed dead and followed fish and didn't bathe and that was like that. I grew up around that stuff, so it wasn't weird to me, but it was like yeah, but I think for the writer's age, yeah, it was still in a backlash. It was still in a sort of Reaganomics, anti sixties seventies like moment. So I mean for our generation, I being new age and hippie and was didn't the first episode or one of the episodes they go to the concert, he's wearing a tiedyed shirt while they go to see Aerosmith, Like yeah, but they clearly weren't philosophically in line with the Unicorn Rainbow bookstore. I mean that was worthy of mockery, right, Yeah, I wonder how long this lasts. I mean, we'll see, because I'm sure when Jedediah Nebula show up, they're probably still making fun of hippies. And I'm sure sure. I mean, my sister's name, I remember, my sister's name name is Nebula Star Lawrence and stop stop yeah Nebulas stop the warlord. Yeah, it was. It was all steeped in that like Vietnam era backlash, and it was like were the writers how how were they probably our age now where they were in their forties, so they would have come of age in the late sixties seventies and sort of seeing the culture shift back, but mainstream culture back then was very you know, but you figure some of them would if you're saying our writers are forty hoping, then that would make them eighty years old. Now it's been thirty years. So if you think about, yeah, it's been thirty years since sixties, I would say at least they're seventies some of them absolutely, really, I would think so sure. Yeah, I think a lot of them got successful in that time in the eighties when things going into the nineties where things were really late career and you know, bad in cocaine in my ass and make the show and that kind of day, you know what I mean, like everything money was in the you know, absolutely, yes, it was the yuppie revolution. It was absolutely Okay. So the we're in the tag the Matthews living room. It's after the game. Corey, Eric, and Allen walk in after their winning their triumphant. Alan says he had a great time. He can't wait for next year. The boys tell him, guess what, you don't have to wait because the bookstore wants a rematch best two out of three. It's going to be next week, and Alan, physically beat up from the game, doesn't seem too thrilled, but says, echoing Corey and Eric from earlier in the episode, that's nice. It's nice. By the way, I have googled three of our writers and producers and all three have popped up sixty seven. Yeah. I was gonna say, I think they were in their thirties. Okay, so yeah, man, they were all younger than we are now. The Golden Girls were in their fifties. I still can't believe that. Yes, you know, that's pretty crazy. It does. I'm sorry, I haven't even four days. Yeah, uh so, any any final remarks about this episode that that doesn't really I'm not a huge fan of this episode. I have to I think this is probably our weakest so far in the first season, you know, which is interesting considering the Lawrence's contribution to television. I do think he's a great writer. I think, you know, his shows have been good, so but there's something off about this episode. And I think anybody who knows this knows the system, knows that the script that you put in is not the script that comes out. Well, that's what I think is a problem. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a script that came in, was bought and then rewritten to try and be more complicated and nuanced, but didn't actually change the storyline. And so you get a lot of nods towards complication and nuance, and none of it actually does seem rewritten, especially in the classroom political scenes. It definitely does. And I think that a normal, typical Boy Met World episode would have would have had a story that reflects the sort of values and logic there, and in this case, it's like you have these nods to those values and logic, but then you just kind of don't do anything with it, and you just too much. Yeah, the storyline doesn't quite work out, So I don't know. It just they felt very slight, and which is fine, you know, but it doesn't feel like a typical boy beat World episode in my mind. Yeah, I agree. It felt like I was trying to be one. Yeah. Yeah, I mean it also could be that it was it was written by someone who wrote it on spec, so it wasn't on staff, and so somebody who doesn't you know, isn't already inside the fabric of the show. Yeah. Yeah, it's any one of those possibilities. But yeah, I would say not not my favorite. Um. I think I think the weakest that we've come to so far, um, which is no you know, uh, no reflection of Bill Lawrence's talent obviously, but um yeah, this one. Doesn't he ever on the set, you know, I don't know. I feel like he had to have been for this week. You would have been there. Yeah, maybe unless it was like we're taking your script by I mean, you never you never know. It's like I haven't I wish we could ask Bill Lawrence. Bill, when you're listening to your favorite podcast, I feel like I've heard a story about him sitting at the monitor being upset at how much the script was rewritten, and I think Jeff Sherman, So I feel for either Jeff or somebody told me like that. There's a there's a moment where, you know, watching Bill Lawrence be flabbergast at how little the script survived. But I don't know if you know who who told me that, but I think it would have been Jeff Sherman at some point. Well, there you go, that would make sense then, Okay, Well, thank you guys for joining us for this episode of Pod Meats World. Our next episode will be season one, episode twelve, Once in Love with Amy. It aired January seven, and we are also that week going to be talking to the casting directors of Boy Meets World. Um, we will be talking to Sally Steiner and Barbie Block. I tell him, I said, hi, I most certainly will and I will absolutely ask Barbie, especially about your audition. My but back up in there. I can't wait to talk about that. That's cool. I can't wait to tell her. So anyway, make sure you guys tune in for that one. Also, be sure to follow us on Instagram at Pod Meets World Show and you can email us at Pod Meets World Show at gmail dot com. Also we have got the March March ch pod Meets World Show dot com and yeah addressed, yes, absolutely, and also then and pick out which ones you want, Look a look on the website, pick out what pick out what shirts you want? I think I think you should come up with a shirt of your own that's that we could sell. Are you serious? Because I got a couple of really great ideas. Have you because they're already selling of me and right are all over the place. They've so many shans, there's so much songela have to do one of those a limited run like a Minka shirt. I think that that's idea great idea. All right, everybody, well look for that, look for that soon. All right. Uh, we love you all, pod dismissed. Pod Meats World is an I heart podcast producer hosted by Daniel Fisher, Wilford l and Ryder Strong executive producers Jensen Carpet and Amy Sugarman executive and Charger Production, Daniel Romo, producer and editor, Tara suit Batch, producer, Lorraine Guerrez engineering and Boy Meets World super fan Easton Allen Our theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon. Follow us on Instagram at pod Meats World Show, or email us at pod Meets World Show at gmail dot com.

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