Let’s play ball, broseff! Patrick Renna might be internationally known as The Great Hambino, but to us he’ll always be a leather jacket bad boy in BMW Season 3’s “Life Lessons.”
So now the TikTok star sits down with Danielle, Rider & Will to examine the unexplainable Sandlot / Boy Meets World connection and what it felt like to want Mr. Feeny dead, but also be completely terrified of him.
Patrick also reveals which Sandlot cast member punched him in the face during filming and, more importantly, what he remembers from making “Summertime Switch.”
This week’s guest knocks it out of the park with stories that are sweeter than a perfectly assembled S’more, right here on Pod Meets World!
If you're raising the kid in California, you have to constantly guard against California Valley surfer talk. Oh yeah, yeah yeah constant and uh yeah, Indie, Indy and his friends are like, that's so sick, that's so sick, bro. And so I just started making fun of it with Indy and just calling him bro. Then very soon became bro Seth, and so I would just be like and so then he started doing it back to me, and and it's kind of a joke, but it's also become kind of an addiction where we're like, let's go Brosinski, all right, bro Seth. And then we just started throwing bro into as many different words as possible. So like, you know mom used to work as a bro tender. Yeah, she would make broteinis. That's grotastic. And then it's like and Heath just thinks it's the funniest thing ever. So, like we talked about Star Wars, it'll become Han Brolo and you know, there's broda. Andy didn't want to play the sacks of bron anymore. He wanted to play the trombrone. But the best, the best was one day. So we're batting these words back and forth, and the best he says, he says, oh yeah, Mom, Mom made that movie. She's a producer. And I was like, oh, I have definitely worked with some producers like that. One's really good. There's a there's a classic dude bro producer. And I think that this is the best we've come up with so far. Producer. And so I want this word enter our nomenclature. Now you talk about certain producers in Hollywood, you just call him a producer. We all know that guy.
Listen.
You know what's crazy is that you saying that and you and Indy going back and forth. I know that India is not on social media, but we are about to have Patrick Renna on the show and one of the things I want to talk to him about is how genius he is on TikTok. You doing if you ever joined TikTok, you doing bro conversations And if you didn't want to use Indy, you just make it you. You have you and one surfer bro outfit and you in a different one, and you shoot it like a movie and just shoot the different angles of this of a whole conversation of you fitting bro into different words is a very funny forty five second TikTok, and it would go very viral.
It would be very funny.
Sure, I always said producer.
Ah, that's great.
So that's the one I always use when you met those like that guy's a produce, he's producer.
Oh my god. Yeah, you could just come on and Bro Doucher.
There's lots of There are lots, unfortunately lots.
So going back very quickly to what you said, though, Rider, because it was something that made me instantly know the difference between where we were raised. When I first met you is I would always say something like, oh, that's so sick, and you'd always go up and go that's so sick.
You've talked about this on the podcasts.
Always it was totally so you'd always go up, that's so sick.
Yeah, yeah, So I remember the moment when that happened, when it was like instead of saying some if you agree with somebody, you do it almost you're going up, almost as if you're challenging them. Like it's something my brother started doing when he was thirteen, and then I was like making fun of him for it, and then I started doing it. So if you say like, oh, I'm like I like that flavor of ice cream. Like the normal or the non bro speak would be like yeah you do, but instead yeah you do, Yeah you do.
Yeah.
It's like that, ending it with like a little like yeah, man, It's like that's right, and that's like the most And then I started doing it, and I still do it to this day. It's like yeah, yeah, so funny.
They're weird.
Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Daniel Fishl, I'm right or Strong, and I'm Wilfrid Dell.
Yeah you are, Yeah you are. Yeah you are sick.
Bro.
Are you listening to our podcast right now and you live in Dallas or Austin, Texas, then do we have news for you.
We are bringing Pod meets World live to you to ring in the new year with many, many layers.
We'll be at the Majestic Theater in Dallas on January eleventh, and then the Story Paramount Theater in Austin on January twelfth, and tickets are still available.
We'll be telling new stories, interacting with fans.
Even meeting and greeting some of you, and judging a costume contest where the winner gets a legit Nineties Boy meets World shooting script signed by us, So come dressed up.
We're winding down the tour and we want.
To see you again.
January eleventh at the Majestic in Dallas and January twelfth at the Paramount in Austin. Tickets are available now at Podmeets worldshow dot com.
When it comes to iconic kid actor roles of the nineties, our guest this week ranks right up there with anyone left home alone during the holidays or a young boy who saw dead people. Best known as Hamilton ham Porter from the classic nineteen ninety three baseball comedy The Sandlot. Patrick Runna's face will make anyone from our generation smile from nostalgia, and for good reason. He's a sunshine of joy, not only in The Sandlot, but in movies like Son in Law, The Big Green, and one TV movie that we know here on Pod Meets.
World Summertime Switch Woo Yes.
More recently, he appeared in Netflix's hit show Glow and the movie Boys of Summer. But most importantly, he is a genuine TikTok superstar with three point two million followers on the app, which, if you're over forty, is like having thirty two million, but Today, we're ignoring his international fame and focusing on just one small role he had in nineteen ninety six on the TV show Boy Meets World, playing leather jacket gang bad boy Kyle in season three's Life Lessons, where he may or may not have written die feene on a school building. So please welcome to Pod meets World. Our friend, Patrick Renna, how.
Are you always start video off? Sorry about that, just in case I'm doing something that you.
Never know, never know, you never know you could be filming an incredible TikTok while you know, Yeah, exactly. You are one of the funniest people on TikTok. I've just i'vet You're literally a genius.
Wow, it's because I'm I'm a boomer and everyone's really coming to understand what's so great about us boomers?
You know, Yeah, they're they're wonderful.
I'm so old. I have never been on TikTok in my life.
Mum on in. Oh god, I don't know a two We could do good choreograph, it'd be great.
Here's the thing.
Here's the thing that I that I love about your TikTok is that I also have two best friends that I could do very funny dances with and they literally like you here, they won't they I've never been on the app. I've never seen it. I show them things all the time. I'm like, look, how funny this is? Could could the three of us please do this?
And writers like, oh yeah, I'm terrified.
I already have no time, like and I feel like every time I invest in in one of these things, it's just more time gone. It's like this, yeah.
Yeah, my friends are so into it that I have to keep them in their lane to not upstage me.
Like I say, guys, get back, worry about you.
I know who choreographs them all. Danielle Lindsay bartleson no Way, Yeah, one of them is her husband.
Oh.
I was going to say, you you put them so in the back. You don't tag them. I don't know who they are. You make they could never get any fame.
That's not true. You can't say that I tag them. They're not on TikTok.
No.
I tagged them on Instagram.
Got it okay? Well, because I was looking only I was on.
The TikTok app and I was like, these guys are he literally keeps them anonymous.
They don't people will go nuts on me for that one them.
Yes, yes, yes, okay.
So while researching your your career before we brought you onto this podcast, I realized that correct me if I'm wrong. The Sandlot was basically your first role, unless you count Salute your Shorts Where Hold Time? I love this, Okay, you played Listen to this. This is how you were credited. I know how it's you are credited as kid. That's says Denucci peede his pants and later was in a headlock. That's right, that's the day of the That was the.
Whole line, and it was wo din' and it looks like you at your pants and then he puts me in headlock and that was it. I'll never forget. When I booked the job too, I was in my kitchen at my parents' house and the producer called my home line and I answered and he said, is your mother there? It's blah blah blah from Sluter Shorts, and I said, did I get it? And he started laughing. He said, let me talk to your mother, and I was like, I don't. I mean, yes, that technically was my first, but Sam one of the.
Most classic shows of all time.
Those shorts that's true.
Like, yeah, he truly lasts that long though. That's what I was. I was ranted to somebody wash was in that show, and he was telling me they were only did like one and a half seasons or two seasons, and yet it's it looms large.
It does, it absolutely does. It's one of those shows.
And then you book Sandlot. What what was shooting that like for you?
Yeah?
I mean it was it. It was a wild experience, you know. The the casting process was crazy.
Walk us through it.
Well, originally they had it cast for six and seven year olds, so they had a whole group of kids cast, and they realized that they're a little young to be saying, you.
Know, some of the things, some of the things.
I don't know, you know, can we save them here? I'm sure we can't.
Yeah we can.
Yeah, okay, great. So then they recast everyone and I was the last person cast, so they had all eight guys cast, and for one reason or another, there was a kid that the roles were jumping around. I think you had Marty on, so he probably told you he was he was cast to some other role for a second, and they were switching roles. They were never really switching mine, but the kid that was going to do my role ended up not being able to do it for for some reason. And then I had one audition for the director because it was so last minute. The next day or the day after, they brought me to meet the guys, and that was like my callback, and they were very clear, they said, you don't have this job. You need to get along with everyone. I was bigger than all and then so I forced them to get along with bigger than me. But it doesn't work that way anymore. So then, I mean, obviously we got along like brothers. And then we had two weeks of baseball camp in LA. They shipped us off to uh Salt Lake City and we had about a week. We filmed one scene and then we had a week or two off then. So it was cool because we had this whole month of just hanging out before the movie started. And I don't know if they designed it that way, but David Mickey Evans was pretty brilliant, so we probably did. And we just got to know each other before we even started filming.
So that's a little risky though, because you put that many kids together for that long well not just broken bones, but also the odds that that many kids are all going to like each other and that there isn't going to be some stuff where like some jealousy develops or some rivalries developed, and some you can really it could really backfire where people now don't like each other and it could have gone the wrong way.
Yes, it's it's different a lot of times with boys, groups of boys will find a way to usually just kind of get along for a one. Yeah, I think you found that to be. It's like jealousies and stuff like that.
Yeah, exact, we just get along.
Exactly, throw us a ball and find a way to just get along.
Its Yeah, But I also think that that's part of the dynamic of the movie, is that not everybody's super nice to each other all the time, like enjoys constantly. And that's like chemistry is chemistry, even if it's negative chemistry, you know what I mean. Like, even it's like that, I think whatever whatever like soup you get by pushing all these kids together is probably going to be helpful to the movie and make it more realistic in some way, you know.
Yeah, Yeah, that's a good point. And we definitely fought like thought like brothers on the movie. I mean, SHANEO. Bazinski punched me in the face right on the sandlot one day. But I was one of the oldest. He was one of the youngest, so it was like my little brother punching me, and I kind of laughed at him and then, you know, but like there was like a love punch, right. Yeah. I have two boys six and three, and believe me, there's some love punches going around.
I have two boys four and a half and two and a half, and gosh wow, So I know I can't wait for some I can't wait for for what's to.
Come with that.
Just on that exactly. You and I could have a whole, a whole We could do our own podcast, just.
About to give each other moral support.
And please I have a boy cat, a boy dog, a male husband, and two sons.
Oh my god, yeah, we'll send you to oh do, please do. We'll all be alive when you come back. But other than that, I can't promise.
Listen, every time I come back, there are new cuts, new scrapes, and I'm just as long as everyone's alive.
I don't even care what happened.
I'm like, listen, bruised, bruised, so did the did the on set while you were doing the movie?
Did it feel like, oh, this is going to be a hit.
No.
I think it's hard to know, you know, because I always say, like, you know, the daily is when the crew watches the day before that night in the trailer. I don't think I've ever been on a movie where they come back the next day. Those are terrible. So everyone thinks their movie is going to be great, right right, and they're not all great. Believe me, I've done some not great movies.
We've done them together.
Patrick, Yeah, movie out there.
That's what I was gonna say. Yeah, sorry, we already mentioned it. We recapped it.
It was great.
Did a recap of it? Yes, we could all the episode.
Yeah, it's so good.
And we had Jason come on to uh oh did we write a masterpiece?
Yeah, and he was the voice of lions.
Oh yeah, we are going to get into summertime switch guys.
I've got it.
I've got it coming up. We've we're getting into it for sure.
I Yeah. So I don't think we knew it was gonna be good, but you definitely had a sense that there was something cool happening. And then it's pretty soon after too, you got the idea that people were into it, you know, because I remember sneaking into movies and sitting in the back and watching the crowd reaction, and it was it was pretty solid for what, you know, for what I've I've sat in the back now since a lot of times and remember having the Sandlot reaction, you know.
Right, exactly, everything's now compared to let's see if it was as good as the Sandlot reaction, right.
Yeah, we're trying to sneak out. Yeah, oh yeah. I had the same thing for Home Alone, not that I wasn't in and obviously, but I remember sitting in the back seeing the Home Alone reaction, which was the greatest I've ever seen, Like the most fun I've ever seen an audience have was that movie.
Oh phenomenal.
Well, just like Boy Me's World, The Sandlot celebrated its thirtieth anniversary this past year. Were you able to do anything special for the milestone.
Except one of us? There's two of us that don't get out and I'm just kidding, Okay, No, we're all we're all great friends. It is cool. When we get together, we're like it's like we're back thirty years ago. We're kind of like brothers will always have that together, like you three have what you went through together, you know, So we get to see each other. Yeah, we and we've seen a lot more of each other since the twentieth anniversary. Every five years.
You see each other.
Yeah, but there's also been stuff in between. So I've seen them a lot more over the past fifteen years, I would say when the movie. After the movie filmed, and then for the next ten to teen years, I didn't see a lot of them, right, yep. But then as the movie kind of became a classic because it sort of ramped up, like twenty years where it really.
Started pile, the nostalgia was at its peak for Yeah.
So I've seen them a lot since then.
It's been good, that makes sense.
So we kind of went through the same thing.
After Boy, you do your thing, and then you you know, five six, seven years, you kind of go your own way, you find yourself, you get away from whatever you did, and then you find yourself back again.
So yeah, it was kind of very similar.
Yeah.
Well, especially when when it stands a test of time, you know what I mean, Like, that's that's what we've been surprised by. How Boy Meet's World compared to a lot of other shows, is still being talked about, and I think sam Lot's the same thing. It's just one of those like and of course when you're a kid, you're like just one of the jobs you know, and you keep going, you keep hoping you get another job that also does as well. But the reality is like they're once in a lifetime, those kinds of like cult things that keep coming back.
Yeah, they really are.
Yeah, Patrick, you and I did a Laker charity event, not that long ago, is within the last maybe three or four years.
And yes, that's why I was like, I have you Where.
Have I seen her?
Yeah?
I knew that we obviously when we were younger, we've of course hung out in Hollywood constantly, but I knew I've seen you since.
Yeah, we recently did.
You had your son with you, so you know it must have been within the I think your oldest son, but he was yeah, okay, Yeah, So we did a Laker charity event together. And I love how much athletes freak out about you because they love sports movies and yours is right up at the top and it's on many of their lists. What are some of the craziest and most fun interactions you've had with sports stars.
God, I mean they're they're also it's it's funny to me because they're all younger than me, but they feel like men right, like a boy still when you know what I mean, when you're around these six I mean Aaron Judges six ' eight. So when I went to a Yankee Stadium and I met him, I met one Carlo Stanton, and I met uh C C C. Sabbathia and then Aaron Boone the manager. And I'm from Boston, so yeah, but going Yankee Stadium is there's something special about it, yess man, because it's what you hate but you love to. So that was a pretty fun one. And those guys are all six eight six six sixty six and I'm like five eight on a really good day. So I remember having my arm around one Carlo Stanton and it was just right above his took us off, and I was like feeling these muscles that I didn't know human beings had.
Six steel.
Yeah, there's a muscle.
Get your hand off me. But I was like, whatever, dude, this is unbelievable. This is I love in your work.
Man.
And then I met Big Poppy and uh, Dustin did. OK. Yeah, I met them in Minnesota. So that was cool for me as a as a Bostonian.
As a Bostonian, did your life officially start in two thousand and four?
Uh? Yes, and it totally passed up. Thing is in two thousand and three, I was in Boston. I was at my grandfather's service. You know, this is twenty years ago. He passed twenty years ago. I'm with my whole family, all the aunts, We've finished the whole day, We're all worn out. All the aunts go go watch the game. So all the cousins go.
No game.
I mean, I'm I'm in a bar in Wistern, Massachusetts. Watch them not pull or whatever. Drama happened and they lost. Oh yeah, and that the next year, that truly was when everything started. That was believable. I mean, my cousin got me the newspaper and sent it to me, said keep.
That, like, you know, are you from the Worcester area originally?
No, my mom is I lived in the city, kind of grew up in the North End and suburbs and areas like, oh.
Did you come to LA because of your acting?
Yeah? I came, I guess so my mom had a job opportunity out here, so she took it knowing I'd done school plays and things, knowing that I wanted to be in the business. And I don't think we expected it to hit that fast. I mean, I came out here in My first agent was Judy Savage. I know, I know, and I think there's this photo that you're in writer that I have. We did this like luncheon with Judy one day, like in nineteen ninety four or something. It's just funny to see all the all the actors in it. She was the queen like and she even said, don't be surprised if you don't work for two years, like that was her line to prep, which was the best thing she ever said to me, because I went into sand Lot thinking I wasn't going to get it and I didn't stress out about it, and you know, I booked it and it was great. So yeah, so I guess we did move out here for that. I don't think we expected to really hit it like that.
And so your parents were obviously very supportive.
Yeah, they absolutely, I mean they had split so they you know, my dad supported us moving too though, right owing I was going to be three thousand miles away, so and they were still really really close. You know, they'll stay at each other's houses when we visit.
That's great.
But yes, for me to move three thousand miles away, it was a big one for sure.
I want to ask you also about Son in Law. Polly Shore was really on top there for a few years. Looking back with in Sino Man, Son in Law, Jury Duty, I mean, those three movies are all better than they should be.
Was that a fun experience to shoot?
Oh?
Yeah? And Sino Man was one of my favorites, so I knew exactly who he was and that was great that you know, it's funny. I auditioned for that right in the same building that auditioned for Sandlot. Ohow, and it was right across the well. They were like next to each other. But I have so many memories in that it's right across from CBS Radford and there's just a row of buildings or everyone auditions. But so I had just come back from Sandlot, and I honestly think that that was my third audition. So I booked my first three auditions and I didn't even like know what I I didn't experience and believe me, I experienced heartache in the industry later later, I didn't even know any better than that thing. So I walked in and I think I didn't even again I had. I just went to the director because it was so last minute. I think I had just gotten back from Sandlot, and so they rushed me into the audition. It was for the director, and Paulie was there and my mom was in the waiting room. We do this whole scene and Paulie gets up close to me and gets like intimidating. There's this scene in the movie where he like says, look you little or something like that, and he comes up close and so he says his line and then like I looked to the right and I think I opened the door and I just screamed mom, and everyone started laughing and loved it, and I think that, you know, and then I just booked it. I just threw a little zinger in there, and he loved it, and yeah. So then I was off to Northern California to film with Paully for three months, and Tiffany Anderthiesen was in it, Lane Smith, Cindy Pickett like vets. So it was that was the polar opposite to Sandlot too though, because Sandlot I was with my buddies playing baseball. This I'm the only kid with a bunch of adults, right, And I think save By the Bell had been out then, so I knew who Tiffany and Withertheson was and it was probably madly in love with her.
Of course everybody was, Yeah.
There was this one scene where she there was like the affair where her and another guy in the move beer in the hay. Yeah, And so I got called to set early because I was supposed to be my milking scene with Poli Shore. And I get there and she's laying in the hay about to do her scene with the guy, and I was like, oh, I don't think I'm supposed to be here, and she looked at me and she patted the hay and said, come here, Pat and I literally just ran to my trailer. I couldn't. There was too much and I just was like that was my experience. Was like I was like the little kid and everyone loved but I.
Was, yeah, too young to be there.
Oh my gosh.
Well, before we get into Boy Meets World, do you know at all about the Sandlot slash Boy Meets World connection. All of these people were on Boy Meets World and Sandlot, Chauncey, Lea Pardi, Marty York, Brandon Adams, Grant Gelt, and yourself. We're all on Boy Meets World. That has to be some kind of record for.
Like, sure, Yeah, it's just was in the pilot.
So I think we worked with Chauncey before you guys shot Sandlot. That was I think it was the right before you guys shot Sandlot. And I remember like he was supposed to be a regular. He was supposed to be Cory's other best friend. So he's in the pilot. It's me and Chauncey and anybody on the on the pilot. Chauncey's the one I hung out with the most. And he was already like a little gangster. He already like he was wearing like the baggy pants and I was like he acted like a fifteen year old when he was like twelve.
And I remember just.
Thinking he was the coolest, like most urban kid, and I was like such a hic. It was so funny. Yeah, he was a huge And then I don't think I ever I don't think I ever saw him again, like maybe once or twice. But did he come back to do another episode?
No, he must have come back because I worked with him and I wasn't in the pilot, so he Chauncey must have been back because I'm on world.
Was what year did I do it?
It would have been ninety five, ninety four, ninety five because it was season two.
And what year we just covered it?
Eason?
Was season three?
It was season it was.
Six? Yeah, And when did we do summertime switch?
That late ninety ninety four?
No?
Before that?
Oh? Really? Yeah?
Yeah, we did summertime switch after the first season of Boy So Sandlot probably so Sandlop came out in ninety three, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, in the fall of ninety three, and that's when War Show premiered, and so it would have been the summer of ninety four that you and I went and did summertime switching in Jacksonville.
Yeah, that was that was the bad.
Yeah, yes, you were.
You were psychoically.
Maybe a little juice like read the room buddy like you No, you.
Clearly make the boldest choice. You're like, I'm not going to try and be funny. I'm going to play this as like I'm going to be I'm going to be a complete sociopath. It is hysterical funny.
That was great.
We talked about what great risks you took in that movie, and uh, you and Jason Weaver are no offense to dear writer, my one of my bestest friends. But you two were on a different level in that movie than everyone else.
Just so great.
Was still trying to figure out why they threw him a basketball, so uncomfortable.
Yeah, Jason was pretty great in that. I I love that filming that. And wasn't Dave Tom in that too?
Yes, that's right, and.
Oh yeah that's right.
Yeah, a bunch.
Yes.
And I remember teaching you how to play magic the Gathering, Yes, And we're trying.
To play for a few years after too. He taught me to a few years too long. I remember being eighteen and going and gathering and was like, I'm too old for this now. No, No, I mean look, don't get me wrong. I'd play now and have a great time. It's just, you know, I'm not comfortable enough to, you know, admit it.
Yeah, do you like playing a bad boy?
I've played it a few times. Yeah, I do, I do. I think i'd it's fun. It's It's hard to do though, because you don't want to, like you always like when you look at the real bad guys that have like one oscars, like Anthony Hopkins, and how how they're almost so charming and not bad, which makes them so terrifying that that's the thing I try and remember, but it's so easy to forget because you just want to.
Be like like Mustache.
Yeah, Like I almost would like to play a bad guy in a movie and have an acting coach the entire time going rein it back Buddy Rain it be charming, be charming. So honestly, that's the biggest struggle in it where I haven't been fully satisfied doing it all the time because it's it's hard to be annimal elector you know, how are you the most psychotic man of the planet but everyone loves you? It's weird, right?
Do you remember your audition for Boy Meets World? And what can you tell us about it?
No? I think I think Boy. I mean so I hated guest starring on TV shows me too, sure, because you're coming in to a group of people that have been together forever and you're you know, yeah, you're just like the odd man out I think with Boyman's World. That's why I asked that question, because I remember enjoying that process more. But I think it's because I knew writer Yea, so I had an inn, and when you have an in, it's cool. Like I did a couple episodes A Glow and I was friends with Jackie Tone, so I kind of had an inn, and then all the girls were so welcoming that it was my favorite experience, I think after Boyman Troub Thank You. So I also think I was only there a day. I think I had a pretty small part in that I was. Wasn't I like a bad kid? And you were?
You were part of the Leather Jacket gang, Yes, and I wasn't even the lead Leather Jacket.
Nocket number two.
You don't speak in the episode until, like out of a twenty two minute episode, like minute sixteen, you say your first thing, so all refresher memory. So the episode you appeared in is called Life Lessons, and it's about finals week approaching and when mister Feeney refuses to adjust the student schedule, a group of thugs basically threatened to kill killing.
Him, literally threatened to kill him.
You are one of those thugs.
And do you remember working with Bill Daniels for that final kind of big scene in the show.
Yeah, I do, I do. But I think that was the problem too, because he was intimidating as someone who yes, because the show is successful already, right, Oh, and he's mister Feenie and he's the adult on the set, and so you're like, ah, and there was there was had jacket number one guy Ian Bowen.
Yeah, who was it, Ian Bowen. He's on He's on Yellowstone.
Now, Ian Bowen. Okay. So I was like, I was like second fiddle, second fiddle, like the whole time. Like, so, I think it was a stressful experience for me.
Sure, And just so you know, Bill Daniels was also very intimidating to all of us, even though we worked with him all the time.
Sure, well, he's also so talented.
So talented, and such a professional, like just the consummate professional. And you know, we were a bunch of kind of giggling, goofing having fun kids, and he was taking it very seriously. So then there's a scene too at the end where it actually says die Feenie in like spray paint on the wall, threaten to kill the Man?
Remember that? Yeah?
Okay, but in general, Patrick, you are completely wasted. It is the weirdest thing. Yeah, it was like watching it, I was like, I didn't remember him being on our show. And then I was like, and this is why, because you were so wasted, and I feel like you actually came and hung out on the set other times.
Like maybe because I knew Ben a.
Little bit, Yes, I remember, didn't did you? Do you have a memory of going to see the movie Quiz Show together, like in a big group of kids. I don't know, like I feel like.
Right universal probably probably you would have gone to the Burbank amc or gas. Anyway, I have a memory of going to see the movie Quiz Show with Ben and you and a couple other friends and that, you know, so yeah, we would like hang out and I feel like, but.
So that's why I didn't remember you were actually on the show. And then we watched it, I was like, has he has he said anything? Do you just like put him in a scene as an extra because he was there?
Like what's going on? But that's what I mean. It was very you know, when I would you would come home and then there would be like auditions for things, and you'd do it and then you book it. You don't know what you're gonna get. So I know I do remember shooting it, though where there are some I just saw an episode of R List I did, and I watched it and was like, I have no memory of being Its.
Weird, doesn't it, I don't you know? Yeah, we do that with certain episodes.
Yeah, we don't. We just don't.
We were looking at going I know I'm watching myself, but I don't remember.
I don't remember being there.
No, Yeah, so I at least remember filming Boy Meets World. But I think it's because I probably watched the show and was a fan and there was like that excitement to be there.
And new writer from Yeah, so that that obviously makes sense. Now feel free to be honest and say absolutely no to this.
But in a world.
Where sand Lot exists, do people ever recognize you from Boy Meets World?
Yeah? Yes, that there are the Boy Means World fans that have seen everything. It's like I did a very memorable episode in X Files, so the X file about this stuff, and like I'll tell you, I don't get recognized from our lists. People will be like a Boy Means world, you know, but that's because the show is so big, so.
In general, you must get recognized so much. I can't even I feel like you have such a unique particular look that everyone knows you. You're so indelible for people because of basically because of Sandlot. But right, you get recognized like every day of your life constantly I do.
I can't grow a beard, so it's, uh, you know, I'm just stuck with the baby face. It definitely happens a lot, and social media hasn't helped. And the rise of Sandlot, I like it. That's like a new Star Wars Sandlot from you know, the twentieth on. It's definitely gotten more and more. But that that's kind of why I started doing social media because I can. I love it because I can do whatever I.
Want, and yeah, it's yours.
I'm leaning into it because that is my life, so I might as well, you know, enjoy it. Yeah, exactly.
Did you ever go through a period where you were sort of sick and tired of getting recognized and not wanting to deal with being not being able to walk down the street.
It's funny because I'm so used to it that when it doesn't happen. I'm like, what's happening a little bit, and I like to think that I have a decent attitude about it, so I try and be nice. Sometimes you're just like in a bad mood, and that's rough because no matter what, if I know, it's their first experience, and when I see someone that I love, it's my heart jumps and all I want to do is talk. So I have to remember that, you know, because it does happen so frequently. But I am just a guy living life getting screamed at my three year old, so sometimes that you know what I mean, like totally interesting times.
It also depends a lot on who you're with, because I when I'm alone, I'm a lot more willing to just stop what I'm doing. When I'm with my kids, or when i'm with somebody else for their birthday, I become very aware of like I'm stealing focus from what I'm really here for, or it's infringing on time with my children. So yes, it's it's depends on the circumstances for sure.
Yeah, But generally speaking, I mean I always say, ninety nine percent of people are coming up to you talking about how much of a difference you've made as Yeah, so sometimes hard to just not even like get choked up. You're like, really, oh my god, you know, so that's cool. So you know, I am fairly used to it now, and you know, just you know, I don't go out unless I've showered, you know what I mean, and had a nice cup of coffee. Like these are the things.
We do face the world.
Yeah, I talking about you saying embracing social media. It's one of the things that I loved so much when I found your TikTok and I was and I loved it so much. It's so nice for somebody like yourself who gets recognized all the time and people in their mind have just an idea of who you are, but they obviously don't know you at all. And now you really get to show your personality, your interests, your sense of humor, and all of those people now who loved you because of work that they've done, now get to actually love you for you. And it helps with the conversations you get to have when people stop or hate you.
Sure, but you know what goes for you.
No, it's a really good point. I love that's cool.
It also expands the conversations you can have because people now can come up to you and instead of talking to you, which they still will, they'll talk to you about your work and what your work meant to them, but now they can come up to you and be like, we have a common interest and I learned about it through this way, And now you really are connecting with people on a on a real person to person level instead of that weird parasocial relationship where your and an object up here and they're a person who's engaged with your material.
They really kind of do know you.
And that's what made whenever I see a famous person be able to do that and their personality is good, I'm always so thrilled.
Like I'm thrilled.
It's such an enjoy If you don't follow him, please go follow him. He's such an enjoyable person to follow. I love it. And you collaborated with Lizzo and Jax.
How do you know Jack's wow though?
I mean, okay, So Jacks had a one of her first songs had You're killing Me smalls in it right right? Her her reps reached out to my agent and asked if I would be in her music video, and I didn't. I didn't know her yet, she hadn't hit where she is now, right, And so I started looking at her and I was like, oh my god, this girls amazing. So I said, yes, I'll do it, but Jax has to teach me about TikTok. I kid you not. I said, yes, you're smart, Like, if she helps me on TikTok, I'll do it. And literally Jack's was like absolutely yes. So she is the reason I'm on social media like this unbelievable because that was my pay. I was like, you just have to teach me. So we met for coffee. She would, you know, and she loves it. There's something about her. She loves mentoring boomers. It's like her her side project. And she just helped me, you know, figure it all out and we just had a blast together. So and now we've just been friends since. Like I just went to her concert in the Forum and she just got married and I missed her wedding. I was so bummed.
So, looking back your time on the Sandlot and maybe even your small amount of time on our set, what are your thoughts on your career overall as a child actor thirty years later?
Well, I think you know I think the funny thing was the first job I did. As we know kid who says, denutci, it looks like you wte your pants. I was thirteen years old, so luckily I really wasn't actually a child actor. I was a teen actor, right, you know, definitely the youngest possible teen, So I was young. But I think, you know, making that transition or experiencing things so young, I think is probably more difficult than the experience that I had, because you know, fifteen years old, you know you're about to drive a car, you know what you're doing. Some kids move out on their own, they're living life. So I just look back on it all very fondly. I got to travel the world, you know. I did a movie in Romania when I was seventeen, and I brought my best friend at the time's older brother as my guardian because my mom refused to go on sets with me. She did not want to be that stage mom thing. So my mom never was on any sets. I would, you know, my stepdad went with me the sandlot. We would hire friends to go with me on son in law, uh, you know, or when I when I started getting older, I would go alone, or you know, so I traveled to Canada and filmed a lot there. So I don't know, it just it was a It was a cool up, a cool way to grow up, and was sort of my extended college film sets. You know, yeah, we have.
We had very similar, very similar experiences that same way, whereas you know, both from the East Coast and you know that kind of and on your own out here later, moving out later. Yeah, my mom parents didn't want to come on the set either. I mean, it was all that same kind of stuff.
Yeah, you're right, it.
Does you look back at it in a kind of a much more positive way when it's like that it's yours.
I will say though, that you guys, for lack of a better word, your parents did get kind of lucky that both of you were had your head screwed on straight, like it could it could have gone a different Yeah, it could have gone a different direction.
Were they lucky or did they raise us?
And that's exactly that's why I said, for lack of a better word, because it's not just luck, it is they raised you to keep your head on straight, and you did do it. I also give credit to you guys for having your own moral compass of like this, doesn't you know, friends that don't sit right with you, you you know, keep them at arm's length, and you know, it's just it says a lot about you, so very exactly.
That is a big part of it. But it's it's true. I mean, I think because you know our parents didn't want to be there as on those sets, shows to their mentality because that's a rough I don't know, that's rough for parents. And sure it's rough for the crew sometimes and it's rough for the parents. It's just it's not meant to be like that.
You know, you're right, absolutely well, Patrick, thank you so much for being here with us.
It was so great to see you.
Thanks for having me. This was great.
I'm so glad you came on.
You guys do like a Boy Meets World new season or something. Maybe I am not a co star this time, maybe occurring.
I love that.
Maybe three lines, three or four lines.
We'll give you a way bigger part.
No, I don't. I don't think so at all. I think we go back the other direction.
I think you're credited as guy who yells die feene die.
I like it.
We'll still give you a guaranteed thirteen out of twenty two.
Which is great, good, thank you great. I'm not even a guy who yells dive Feenie die im guy who spray painted dive.
For a artist die feene died.
I love it.
Well, thank you so much for being here with us. We hope to see you again soon.
I'm in, I'm in. Thank you guys. Bye bye, man.
You guys are really missing out not following him on TikTok. Honestly, it's worth opening a TikTok account just to follow him.
I know.
Well, just listening to you talk about it kind of inspired me. I was like, oh, maybe I could do you know, maybe there's a TikTok where it's just me reading. They're literally snow and maybe just me crying. Like I could just like embrace the like.
The depressed, and it will like keep audience love it. But not only that.
The thing that's hard for me with TikTok is that TikTok really has so many tons of tools transitions, backgrounds, transition. Did I say transitions, I mean tons of things, effects, things you can do where you really can make your own minute long movie.
You would truly love it. Writer.
And if you just sat there and cried for a minute while reading something Beautiful people would love it.
It's it's really great.
I actually, I know it's destroying the world and we're all we're all gonna die from TikTok and whatever else, but it is great. Nikes, anything else you guys want to say about Patrick instead of justice.
To see him super funny and it's great to see him again.
Yeah, I mean, I you know, obviously didn't didn't know him as well as you guys did, but was always just such.
A fan of I mean, it's uber talented, so I mean, yeah.
That's it's so. It's so interesting too the way he like basically was a fully formed actor, like the second he decided to do it. It doesn't seem like he's changed he personally, he hasn't changed that much physically, which is amazing. Like he like he said, he still has the baby face, but it's true, he still he still looks so much like him. But then also just as an actor, he was always just making interesting choices and doing his own thing and being able to be a villain. And he's just great.
Yeah, he's really great. I love seeing him and yeah, he's wonderful. I hope I hope we get to do something with him again in the future, as.
Long as it doesn't involve us dancing behind him on TikTok.
I'm in I want you to dance behind me on TikTok. If you dance behind Patrick Grenna and not me, what do I get?
What do I get if I go on TikTok and dance with you? What's in it for me?
Bro?
The fun of doing it? We can do it on your account, open your own account. We'll do it on your account. I know I said, open it.
What do you mean? What's in it for you? It's fun.
We would also get people to to get know about pod meats World.
We'd be posting it to promote pod meats World.
It's and what Tara just said, it'll bring everyone so much joy.
That's what you get to bring people too.
One comment telling me something negative and I'll be curled up in a ball for a month.
I showed you.
Writer the one I want to do of the three of the people that were like dances to bring out at the holiday party, and it was like.
So great I do.
I'm never gonna be that guy.
I know, right Hey, you are encouraging say that The whole point of TikTok is that whisk you be yourselves. And so I only want to go If I'm ever going to do TikTok videos, they're going to be very much my videos.
Right, You're going to be drunk on whiskey with a box and a fancy pos snow.
Glow, tears streaming down my face, just turning around, going it was the best of times.
It was the time.
And there are people who will love that.
Yeah, there are there are there are people who will that and who loves to make people laugh.
It's perfect for you.
Yes, I want to make a suggestion, and so here here will be the trade off. Okay, I will come dance on TikTok with you if we all get together, including Patrick, and you play magic the gathering with us.
Oh god, I'm out, sorry, like a card game. I don't have to dress up, do I? You don't I love cards.
I love cards. I'll play a card game.
Okay, I'll do it.
I'll that's it.
That's a fair trade.
I will do something on TikTok with This is your trade, will not mine.
No, No, I said I will do I said I'll do it with.
You can cry with you while you read me a poem.
Okay there you okay, perfect, all right, all.
Right, okay, that's it. Well we just put together a great night. I can't wait. We're gonna play cards, cry a little, and do a dance.
Perfect. It's a Tuesday in my house.
Come on.
Thank you all for listening to this episode of bod Meets World. As always, you can follow us on Instagram Podmeets World Show. You can send us your emails podmeets Worldshow at gmail dot com.
And we have merch.
You're killing me March.
Podmeetsworldshow dot com writer send us out.
We love you all, pod dismissed. Podmeets World is an iHeart podcast producer hosted by Danielle Fischel, Wilfridell and Ryder Strong Executive producers Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman. Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor, Tarasubasch producer, Maddie Moore engineer and boy meets World Superman Easton Out. Our theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon. Follow us on Instagram at podmets World Show or email us at Podmeets Worldshow at gmail dot com