Investigative reporter Nick McKenzie logged on to a Zoom call to meet the man who said he was Aaron Pierson.
McKenzie was also hiding his real identity, posing as a recruiter for an Australian tech company. The whole thing was a set-up, a trap for someone McKenzie suspected to be a spy for North Korea.
Today, McKenzie talks about the new way spies are targeting Australian businesses, and what happened in that Zoom call.

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