This week we look at two stories about our public servants. The first story is about the faceless kind of public servant who toil in government departments, and the second story is about the political public servants at the heart of the Albanese government, as we discuss the different public and private roles of ministers. 

Joining Jacqueline Maley is national affairs editor James Massola and senior economics correspondent Shane Wright.

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