In this interview, we're discussing the proposed permanent move to daylight saving time. Joining us is Jay, a standard time historian and advocate for the Save Standard Time organization. He shares his concerns about the potential effects of permanent DST on our health, safety, and economy. We dive into the history of DST, the challenges of polling on the topic, and the lobbying efforts in DC. Jay also makes a compelling case for why standard time is the way to go, citing the benefits of a consistent schedule and the negative impacts of permanent DST on our daily lives.