*Originally aired October 14th, 2024*
Big Bank sits down with special guest Jordan Griffin aka Black Balled Golf CEO, shares his journey from sports to entrepreneurship. He discusses how golf serves as a metaphor for life, the mental challenges and the need for representation in the sport. JG reflects on the unique challenges faced by young black entrepreneurs, the significance of investing in youth programs to foster a love for golf and its mission to empower underprivileged golfers and more. Tune in and join the conversation in the socials below.
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I always said I'm gonna just play the hand out of depth. So I realized I had a power to shuffle the cars. HM, welcome to the Perspective Bank.
Today. I got my brother JG aka Blackball CEO in the building. What's with my brother? How you feeling feeling good? Good?
Where you're mentally at right now? I like to always ask that, like where your mental state at.
I like to stay busy, so I like to keep my mind busy, like always thinking of something I feel like like the entrepreneurs spirit. I try to like really like live off of that. So I like to keep my mind busy, just you know, thinking the new ideas. But I feel like I'm in a good spot mentally, like feel feel good, feel happy, feel healthy.
So ain't go off a big part of that too. So yeah, we don't get into that book. But let's take it back to the beginning. Like who is JG? Where you're from?
Yeah? You represent? Yeah? So how was you raised?
I was born in Seattle, Washington, but I moved here when I was young, like three four years old.
Was raised in Fairville, Georgia.
Grew up playing pretty much every sport you can think of, baseball, football, basketball, all the Yeah. Ended up going to college and played football to play cornerback at Farmer University, so d one college football. So I mean that was a real big part of my life at that time. Right now, I'm just in a space where i'm you know, golfing a lot. That's really my thing right now. I got into it recently and started a business around it. So just trying to run a business and have a good time golfing and to join myself and you know, trying to make money at the same time.
So that's really where I'm at right now.
Would you say that sports just playing sports taught you discipline?
Oh for sure.
For sure, especially football because I went to Santa Creek High School, which is one of the like bigger football programs in Georgia. So it was some real life competitive to get on the field, like you wasn't just getting on the team and playing like that wasn't.
You had to earn your way on there. So yeah, and like the.
Coaches back then, I know, stuff is a little different now, but back then it was real strict, like you on time or you not playing, like showing up the practice or you're not playing.
It ain't no leeway around it.
So I feel like that really taught me discipline as far as like timeliness and you know, doing what you say you're gonna do, and you know, just being there for your team and working hard and trying to earn something.
So I think the sport's definitely a big part of that for me. How hard was it like to just remain focused high school?
It wasn't that hard, just because I was on such a tight schedule so much in high school. But college, when you got a little bit more freedom and you know, a little bit more time to yourself to think about your thoughts and all that, it was definitely a little bit more difficult. I'd say definitely had some challenging times in college as far as sports and just living in a town that I wasn't familiar with.
So I think I grew a lot from that time.
Man, it taught me a lot about myself and who I am just spending the time by myself with myself, So I felt like college was a time to learn about myself and learn what I needed to get into and what I not didn't need to get into type thing.
So you do you feel like like shifting a little bit? Do you feel like golf golf is part of your purpose? Yeah, for sure. It kind of came out of nowhere. But the more did I get into it, the more I realized how it like really relates to life in general. Like yeah, because I mean, you go out on the course. You can hit a bad shot and it ended up good. You can hit a good shot end up bad. It just show you that you just got to take your shot.
So yeah, if you take your shot, it might end up good, it might end up bad, But you know what I'm saying, that's just that's that's life really, and that's golf too.
Yeah.
I recently just got in real heavy, Like I had went to a tournament with.
With Miguel Wilson.
I ain't know how to play golf shit, but I went out there and I just seen like I felt because I always be hiking and ship anyway, so I went out there. It's the same like you're outside, you know what I'm saying. But then golf is like I couldn't hit the bombs, so that made me want to play it right, you know, what I'm saying, it's a challenge. Yeah, it's a challenge for you. Did you play sports when you was like just play a little football, baseball, but that ship wasn't then, Like yeah, yeah sure, But coming out there it shit a whole another thing because it's new. So you don't want to feel defeated by nothing, especially not when you see people younger than you're and older than you perfecting it.
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Yeah, that's that's the thing.
Like you can get good, but then like you never know how good you're gonna be on any given day.
Yeah.
So, uh, Like I've been working at the ship non stop and i feel like I'm at a point where I'm all right golfer, but.
I can go out there and play bad too.
That just challenged you to keep like you got to get really really fine with it, Like you got to really knock out the bad shots for real.
So it's just thinking about mindset, Like coming out there with the wrong mindset.
Yeah, that's always the recipe for disaster, if you ask me.
That's anything, Like, yeah, anything, and with the golf, like you'll get frustrated with yourself, but then you realize, like getting frustrated. It's only gonna make your game worse. It don't never makes it better. It never makes it better. So you gotta keep a cool head, and you gotta really keep your calm, and you gotta maintain it because if you don't, your game gonna get worse. You're gonna get even more upset. So you gotta really, you know, really fight through it.
Mentally apply that to life. Yeah, now let's switch you down in life. You know what I'm saying. You wake up already frustrated. Man, ain't then gonna go right for you? Yep, it's the same thing. Like like a nigga can hit his first shot. It's like full shot on each hole. It is gonna either be it's supposed to be three, five or four shots, right, so it ain't just one shot. So you hit a bad shot and be so frustrated that you don't even recover on the second because you frustrated. But you hear a bad first shot, and seen, y'all do hit a bad first shot, then come out and.
See gona right by the flag.
You never know, You never know how it's gonna go, So yeah, sure you gotta.
It's always the next shot. Always the next shot. How is it being like a young black entrepreneur on a period? It's tough. What's the ups and downs? Up it?
It's tough, especially in the golf space, just because it's not really that many black folks in the golf space for real, so you kind of really building it up and trying to work your business at the same time, it's challenging. When I first started running the black Ball thing, I go to the course and be like, I really ain't feel like I belonged there, Like it was like a weird feeling, like a like an imposter type syndrome type thing, just because you ain't really see nobody out there that look like me, like dressed like me, like none of that. So as I got more into it and I got better at the game, I just my comfortability out there really like got better as well. And I think that my game improved too, because like we belong out there too, because that's the biggest thing, Like it ain't no reason it should be like no black people playing pro golf for real, Like it's a few, but it ain't enough. How talented the weird and things, and how good we are athletically mentally, how strong. We are like, it should be a lot more black people playing and professional golf.
It's just when we ain't did it yet. When I tell niggas about it, we're gona wake them up. When I tell niggas about it, they just be like, Bro, she just seemed boring, but she ain't seem like it's shit too slow and all that shit that's a niggas be saying.
Yeah.
So when I was like preparing kind of preparing for this interview, I was thinking about like some possible things that I might want to talk about, but I really thought about it, like the cool thing to do when we was young was play basketball, play football, and it was all about how like the folks look cool too, Like Dion look cool, he had a swag about him, had Arbison look cool, he had swab. So that made us want to play basketball and play football. But you ain't see that in the PGA. Like Taker Woods was good at golf, but he ain't really, you know, exemplify what black culture is for real. So I feel like we got somebody like that and we start putting it on and going out there and golfing, like it's gonna change. Who want to play golf. And that's the first thing. It got to look cooler to the young generation. We know it's cool because we play it now, But as soon as you get him into it, I feel like it'll be you know, it'll move more black people into the game golf.
What's some thing, what's some steps you think besides Sean that you you gotta be fly playing the ship, what you think some steps is that we can take to.
Make me really invest in the kids, like the kid programs as far as golf go, like first t programs like get them into it young and not having to spend that much money. So then they fall in love with the game on their own, because that's the only reason they that's the only way they're really gonna get good, Yeah, is if they fall in love with the game on their own. It ain't gonna because so and so pushing me to play golf. Like, if you love the game, you're gonna work hard to get better at it. So you got to make them fall in love with the game earlier, I think is the biggest step, and then push it put like keep them going through high school through college and then you know, really got them along the way.
Nah, because I'll be seeing them people having their kids out there young. Other other race and coaches, they be having their kids out there young, like everybody you see playing me. I've been playing all six years old im and playing you know what I'm saying. We start, I'm starting at forty six. Yeah, you know, but I love it though. I'm gonna play this ship till I can't no more.
Yeah for sure, Really shit, I mean playing young Also, you get the muscle memory factor into it, like you get used to playing the game.
So it's I think that's the most important piece to me.
How is it living in Atlanta and trying to date as a young man.
Well, I'm recently engaged, so I'm kind of out to day and scene now.
But it's an interesting game. It's interesting scene. Ship crazy. You fought your good one, Yeah for sure. For sure. There was a needle in the hattat though.
Yeah, yeah it was it kind of it came out of nowhere, but like it kind of fell into place like perfectly. So I feel like that's the best way to make it happen, Like.
How you know, how you know like this your this one.
I just feel like in past relationships, like I was just had a like I ain't gonna say like a quick, quick temper, like I ain't really an angry type guy, but like just one of the end things quick. Like it wasn't never know like I'm a fight through this. I ain't gonna you know what I'm saying. I'm an do whatever it takes before this relationship, like and now I feel like in this relationship, like I'm a fight for this, fight for it, fight for my girl, Like I got more patient, exact way more patient. I'm gonna stick through it, like I'm like I'm really in it, like and it's like a different type level for me personally. So that's kind of how I knew like that this was definitely you know, where I needed to be at who I needed to be with. And I think compromising is really important too, like in a relationship, like you gotta have somebody who know you and know what you're gonna do so they can, you know, get a feel for you, like my girl know I'm gonna be on the golf course like it ain't never no issue, like, oh, yeah you need to come home, Like, yeah, you've been at the golf.
Course all day?
Yeah, Like I know I need somebody like that. You know what I'm saying, because.
I know how much I love every day every day if I can every day.
If I'm traveling the summer, might take a day off, but I try to get out there almost every day at least a practice like chipping putting.
That's the only way you really gonna get good. Yeah, you gotta do this.
You gotta work at it for sure. Who's some of the people that inspire you though? Definitely my parents, just because I mean, they don't help me down my whole life.
They've been together my whole life.
Like they they gave me a good picture to look at to like what I wanted to strive to be when I grew up. So they definitely like my biggest like like motivators, and you know who I idolized the most just because how they did it and they made it just look how I think it's supposed to look.
Other than that.
Like, I got a lot of friends, man, My friends really motivate me. I like to keep people around me that's gonna like push me and you know be like you know you bullshit and like you you're supposed to be doing a good job too.
You need them, folks.
Ryan you too, a little bit of both of them, like family and friends really like my driving motivators for real?
For real? Yeah? What about you though, what like who motivate you most? Like right now? Who you feel like? Like? Like who you looking at? Like? Okay, yeah I like that.
Let me see, Uh, anybody that's being themself? Yeah, anybody that's being them like he him. It could be they don't have to be having no money, they don't have to like I feel like that's the ultimate success.
When you can just be you, all the rest of are gonna come.
You know what I'm saying, Like a people person that don't have a mask on, like get inspired by that. I'm an advocate for be yourself. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like because at the end of the day, then you give people a choice. If you who you is, they got a choice to fuck with you or no. But if you're faking it, they might like you for it, the fake you, and then that shit gonna start stressing you because you're gonna run out of it. Like, man, man, I gotta go fuck you know how you got a potlem be folks? Yeah, go be fake y'all said that. I gotta go eat fake. You know what I'm saying, motherfuller, you know you don't fuck with that shit crazy. But that's that's a good question too, that you double back and asked me, because I never I asked you. I never thought about that anybody that's being themself like, I'm inspired by that. Like you can just tell from the people I fuck with. You know what I'm saying, Heaven, that's especially industry people like you know what I'm saying. I just love the mother fully it. That's just if you if.
You out there, you don't care about being out there, you feel what I'm saying. I love them kind of people. But the motherfuckers who I can sit next to.
And because I read character good and energy, I read that shit good. I can tell when you cause don't watch how you treat me. I watch how you treat motherfucker. You probably feel like shit, how you around that person, how you greet that person, how you You know what I'm saying, That's what I'm paying attention to. So if I win me, you'll be doing me like you know what I'm saying, big you, little me. You get what I'm saying. Then, So to me, that's a character flow Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You see a nigga feeling like just because this person ain't this or it ain't on my level, I don't.
Have to respect them. I don't respect that right, you know what I'm saying. Everybody saying.
Everybody's saying, Man, the people. You know, I don't judge people out what they got.
I get a kick it's crazy.
I get a kick out of seeing something go to nothing, go to something, It don't matter what it is.
Like I can see them watch a plant grow, you know what I'm saying.
I mean, I just walk in that motherfucker growing.
You know what I'm saying. I mean, that's really like the plant thing.
I really think about that too, like you just like this is is alive, like the plant that's different, Like you know what I'm saying, saying it grow from nothing or something like you said, exactly amazing.
Really she can be a tree. We go put it in the backyard.
Once we're growing the uh in the in the flower pot, we're gonna put it outside and keep going this shit crazy. So that's just like a metaphor just saying I like to see a seed growing to a tree. You know what I'm saying, And that's what people too, Like I always wanted to fuck with the underdogs, like they think that I can see what they gonna this is gonna be. So this is what I want to attach myself to. And then I'll be like I knew it. I knew that ship. I get a joy out of that.
That's all real.
You think shall like the motherfucker huh Yeah, And niggas, any niggas can tell you advouce for it, Like I feel like all the same shit that anybody that's doing shit, she can do that, he can do that, you can do that shy you know what I'm saying, Like the same way because I seen these same people who who's moguls now like be nothing, you know what I'm saying, But they but they had a wheeling and determination to be You could tell people with me like I can tell black Balls is gonna be huge just being one hundred And I told you all the camera, like I could tell like this shipping to be big. Yeah, because it's the mindset and the spirit and the and the determination and the wheel to do the ship that y'all got it.
You your brother who I met, y'all got this ship is like shipping to go up. Yeah, appreciate that it's going up. Appreciate you're going there. We're going up. You know them already got the brunches on them. Yes, sir.
So you where you went to school in Georgia? Yeah, sant Creek Okay, I mean not high school on my college. I went to school in South Carolina, Okay, Greenville, South Carolina. You stayed down up you okay? And did you come back for the summer?
How you doing was?
I mean I came back for like maybe three four week during the summer, and then we spent the rest of the time like being doing camp getting ready for the season. So maybe like a month a year I was at the house.
You got any kid? No, no kids?
How important do you think it is to be in your kids? Very important, very important.
Uh.
It's because it's so much noise in their ears nowadays, like it wasn't. It ain't the same like when we was growing up. They got the internet, they got cell phones all day every day, like they always looking at something we outside playing like just talking to the folks around us. They always got a million different things. They can look at what's going on in the world everywhere. The guidance they need nowadays, I feel like it's way more than the guidance that we needed just because we the access is so much different.
So yeah, I think it's very important.
You got to got to be in your kids life and and and if you can't be in your kids life, then you know that's that's a problem.
Yeah, it's not really shit because now because you're a product of a two parent household, as you said, right, So it's just like I think it gives you a different especially you got a stayle Ain't not like a stable home man, you know what I'm saying. Ain't inhing like a statele hom Like I said in the beginning, Bro, you can be depth the hand, but you can shove the cause niggas don't feel like they can shuffle bro. Because of where I come from, a lot of time we won't feel like we can shuffle that ship. It's just like then what it is I'm gonna play this Yeah, Yeah, that's why I'm on ship. That's why I'm gonna live in testimony. You ain't got to stay the same ship. You can go play golf, yeah, even being from the street. Yeah, golf course, right, off Cleveland Avenue.
Yeah, exactly. It wasn't done there every hood.
I just went to one that to a bone in the ghetto, like you just gotta It's just a mindset thing. Like you said, you gotta decide. This is what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go golf. I ain't gonna do this. I ain't gonna be you know out here like this. I'm gonna golf. I'm gonna go to golf course. Ye, Caddy, you know, shag some golf balls like we were talking about earlier by the young need crazy man.
Don't you know how much money you can make going in the golf courses finding golf balls and selling them, washing and selling them.
All right, money? Yeah, money.
You need to put a crew together. Business you can, that's a business man. Cause the most of them ball, like you said, it ain't been hit the one time.
Hey get the ball pulled out the box hitting into the wood. Yeah, I know.
I done donated over two hundred and fifty thousand balls.
You can't find them. Yeah, you really gotta go searching for me. Yeah, you can't do that. It'd be a whole bunch of golf balls out there. Yeah.
So when you if you hit your balls in the wood, you might go over there and find every ball, but you're a ten ball. But yo, you know what I'm saying. That kind of like life too, though, you know what I say. You go ahead, folks, don't really go over there to see what's over there. Like you go try to find your goal ball, you find fifteen other golf ball. Yeah, you never know what's gonna be on.
You're gonna walk right here. Yeah, you're gonna walk on your car.
You're just driving that's up green. Like, but sometime you go in the wood you find fifteen golf ball. It's like you never know.
Really shit.
Really, So let me ask you some what's your respective one? Like politics and shit?
Man, I hate to say this, but I just have Like I actually was a political science major in at firm university career, but like my interest in politics has has decreased ever since I got out of school, Like it just keeps decreasing. It's just because I don't know. It just don't seem like this. This might sound bad, but it don't seem like it matters. Like it don't seem like it matters who the president is. It don't seem like like this this stuff don't really you know, politics something you don't really want to hit on too much just because people so opinionated, yeah, polarized about it. But uh like I feel like a lot of the stuff that's going on when so and so the president might also go on when so and so the president. It's all about the state of affairs with the like I think the people, like we really got to like the local elections, like it's more important than the big the big time elections to me. Mm hm, like the president for per se, like voting for your mayor and that type stuff, but gonna directly affect you. And then if folks voting for their mayor and getting good mayors in the city too, Like that's the real like united part of the you know what I'm saying. You think anything dealing with big money rig though, like like a super Bowl could be fixed or off. Like anything dealing with big money is like some scam in that shit. Anytime it's big money, it's somebody trying.
To get the gotta be bro it gotta be it's some snake shit somewhere in it's too much money.
Yeah, I mean, it's the easiest way to do it is with the officials, the referees.
Like if you're talking about sports, like.
I don't think the players in on it, don't because I played sports. So it'd be so hard to rig a football game. It's damn near impossible to do something like that. What you mean, because you got athletes out there that's really fighting for their life, like you out here hitting folks like you could be seriously injured.
This ain't no game. You're not out there like you know what I'm saying, Like, but she won. The quarterback throwing himself. The quarterback got got the power to do something like that, and.
Did anybody touch because you could drop it. You could drop that motherfucker. You're gonna be running back and fumble. But you got to think how depend it is on the other team to like what they doing, Like you can try to do whatever you're gonna do with the other team. They going again, don't know they they turned up exactly whooping them nigga U.
Yeah, he'll throw three interceptions and were turning the back over. Yeah, you're right, you're right.
You're the team kind of dictated too, So I mean, maybe not football, but maybe like boxing and them nigga.
Like joinking boxing for sure, a nigga like joinking through through a series though.
Oh basketball, yeah, if you're the main player, yeah do that. And then with all the prop bets and stuff going on, now, like what but the name John Tay John Tay.
Something he got caught with the sports.
Batting scheme was being on his own like prop bets like points rebounds, that type thing and call you got arrested and then kicked out of the NBA career. Yeah, basically, yeah, that's a teacher. Yeah, I mean it's a it's a big business out with the props.
So you know what else sports? You felt you for that soccer?
Really, I'm a I'm a big football fan, basketball fan, baseball. I like baseball too. I'm a big Falcons fan for sure. But you know, you know how that is stress, stressful, probably one of the most stress with Thiams to be a part of.
I thought they gonna get right Las Sunday. I did too. I was real disappointed.
I was in the room for the boys, man, but it got ugly so and then it was justin fields that made it made it even worse. But real, yeah, you know, he from Georgia so he came in the house and beat us.
Damn. Yeah, coming up, who's your favorite rapper? Favorite rapper coming up? Probably Low Wayne, Low Wayne.
Like during college for a little minute, it was Whiz Khalifer. Like I was really rocking with Wiz Khalifer. That's probably when I had started smoking a little bit.
Uh.
But the Whiz Khalifer because Your Orange Juice was probably a big, big album to me.
But Wayne, who else? Growing up? For real? You think Jay shouldn't Wayne did the Slooshie too? Okayci here yeah, Gucci shout out the walk. You think you think Jay supposed to? Let Wayne did the Super Bowl?
Yeah, definitely, especially with the performances they gonna have in the past few years. How Like they went to California and they let the California artists like get up there and do their thing. Like you in New Orleans, everybody thinking the Lil Wayne as far as music go, how could you not have him?
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like him or.
Somebody in New Orleans, somebody Kendrick from from l A.
That's that's that's that's the way out there.
When you got all these local artists, that's big time like, I feel like they could have just did a like collaboration on a whole bunch of New Orleans artists or something.
Yeah, they could have had that ship because that should.
Have been lit. They would have been fold have been Bounce. He could did Bounce music. But I don't know the politics the big money ship rid it might not even beat Jay.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's Kendrick Ground going crazy right now too, So I mean that's a part of it too, why they want the big money you there, do.
You think that do you think that it's crazy? And I'm gonna ask this question a couple of times to a couple more people, do you think that that's like a a nail in the coffin? Like niggas think that that's a nail in the collar for Drake now, Like they're saying, like he won now because this nigga did all this. They've been this that he in the super Bowl type shit.
You know what I'm saying.
I mean he probably Drake probably was like damn, I think that, but nail in the coffin now, he just he just been going too long.
He's been through a whole bunch of different things. You know what I said, I don't think he could because he do too much. He makes good music. Yeah, that's the that's the main thing.
As long as you're making good music, folks gonna listen to you, especially your long term fans. Like people been listening to Drake for fifteen years now. He ain't finna just be off to Drake like Bandwagon.
For.
He can only make them get off his bad way. Yeah, like when they start seeing like you're getting timid or something. You know what I'm saying, You got to keep dropping.
Yeah? Sure, So what you.
Think is like the most what's been the biggest challenge as far as getting into golf and like getting good at golf for you, what would you.
Say, just remain and come and focuses. Yeah, because I know, but one thing about golf, this shit crazy, yes man. One thing about golf. It's a tricky. It'll show you what you can do because I come out the one day y'all with good ball bank, good ball bank, and that come out there like today when we played until y'all go ahead, I'm practicing. I ain't keeping no schooling on there.
You know what I'm saying.
It's just staying focusing and just playing through playing through it when you're mental ain't right, you.
Know what I'm saying. What mind state you feel like?
Say you going to the golf course, Like, what mind state are you in when you play your best like game? You think like you just like calm and you like excited about the round, and you like what you think it is.
I ain't gonna lie anytime when I when I'm you're saying, like when I'm finna pull up and ship. Yeah, I'm always excited to play, you know what I'm saying. I'm excited to night before. I lay my shit out like I'm going to school. You know what I'm saying, I lay my clothes.
I don't. I can't wait to play, you know what I'm saying.
But some days, like you could get a call on the way right, so you see it on this round.
You can't do that.
Yeah, you just got to block it out and go play. Yeah, I can't have your phone. I agree one hundred percent. I'm with you on that one. You cannot play with golf with your phone.
You know I'll be trying to do it. Yeah, you play good, it's just in the car.
Yeah, can't get frustrated like you were saying, earlier. It's just I don't know. It's just a mental challenge though, you know what I'm saying. Though I went and got me I had the cart bag. I just went and bought me a carrying bag. So I'm finna gotten the implement my hiking with that. Just walking. I walked the Nines all the time. Just start walking to eighteen. So don't get my steps in and cause I think every time I walk right, it take me a minute to get to the whole I'm thinking instead of riding on the cart talking to a nigga.
Yeah, so I ain't getting my focus together.
When I walk to my ball, I cussing myself out, like you're really, bitch, bro, how you just make the ball go allway in these bushes? You know what I'm saying, Like, come on, bro, buckle down, get folks walk up on that motherfucking whack it wasking.
I mean, I agree, I think you played better golf when you walk. Yeah.
Yeah, And so so it's all like you said, it all go back to life, Like you're taking your time and you're pacing yourself, like y'all, nigga, here the driver three hundred yards and shit, that ain't I can't do that yet, you know what I'm saying. So what I'm gonna do is if the if the hole is God damn if the whole.
This is what I do.
Knocked out there, the whole three hundred and eighty something yards away right stead of me.
Here my driver trying to get on.
In two, I can hit my uh one eye or yeah, the one eye, or I can hear some ship a five and he did one seventy and want to see them to know what that is. Yeah, I'm there in three and I can God damn part or birdy.
Yeah. You know what I'm saying.
I mean, somebody hit they drive a three fifty the whole four ten. They still got to hit another shot.
Yep.
Yeah, they got a chip. They might chip on fuck up on the chip. You still gotta this shit crazy.
It's something different like metaphors you can make for the game of golf. I feel like, just like the way different things go when you're out there.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
So that still like you say, run back and resonate the life as in stop, don't try to hit driver because they hit drive walk your path.
Somebody here the five iron somebody here in an eight iron. But as long as it go the right.
Distance, that's exactly, and the right way, this shit still gonna lead to the same destination exactly.
Some facts. Sure, what's the shit you've.
Seen that you learned in school that you I mean, what's the shit that you learned from life that you could have never learned in school?
Learned from life? Shot, I couldn't never learned in school. I mean, just the consequences of your actions. Really Like school, I mean school, they kind of like if you're going to class, you're doing what you're supposed to be doing, You're gonna make it through school, you know what I'm saying. But life, like you mess up, it's consequences for everything you make a wrong decision, It's a consequence for that. Like, you got to really be patient and be thoughtful of the decisions you make because I mean, just a little small slip up is I mean, it could set you back so much and then you gotta fight all the way to get back to where you was just att Yeah, So I mean the setbacks and the consequences of your actions is something that life teaches you that I don't think school ever will teach you for really.
So no, I know it's gotta be a good feelings never God damn. So you feel like you've never came off your path ever since? You definitely half yea. What took care of your path?
When I was in.
College, man, I actually, uh, I played. I really ain't never even told the story before, but I played. I played three years at firm of University. I was starting corner like all freshmen and SoCon all that shit. It's kind of spring of my junior year. We got this like beach bike weekend or something like that. It's in like Charleston. I had to finish the turn paper, so I stayed on campus.
Uh.
My homie ended up got down giving some weed, give them, give him some weed to somebody for him, like gave him like a little seven. Didn't think twice about it. Three four weeks go by, dawn, cops come on campus, arrest me my homie, and she got kicked off. The football team had to transfer.
Uh. I mean it was a lot of shit, man, it was.
It definitely swayed me from my path a lot, I feel like, uh, But at the same time, like I felt like it happened because it was supposed to happen. Like I needed to learn that lesson, you know what I'm saying, Like it taught me so much about myself.
Uhlf, it might have been fire he a lot that ship went left. I really don't know.
I think somebody on campus that like because they were like doing they were doing it for real, like I guess in the area, and somebody gets caught on to them and was trying to get them.
And I served at it under cover one time, and it was undercover.
I thought, oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. So they was already like on them and she was left. But yeah, that's part of part of part of my journey at this point. So it ain't ain't nothing to be ashamed of. I can't go back to your now kept going for sure, and I think it just it just motivated me to you know, push me to be you know more, you know what I'm saying, and really do my own thing and also be smarter in my decision making, just because you know, that's that's something you just gotta do.
Man.
It's just like like you said, it's just like motherfucker went over there, but it didn't go out of bounds.
Yeah, Nigga still still didn't play.
Paul stealing the motherfucker in the words man for sure.
Nah, for real, I think you're dope, bro, And everything you're standing for is dope.
Bro.
Just about being around being on the golf, cause you need some really good people out there, bro.
That's for sure.
That's that's one of the one of the biggest like things about golf, Like if you get out there and you just experience it, like you never know who you're gonna meet out there. And I met so many people that I never even thought about meeting for real, y'all, Barkley, Like you know, you know what I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying, Like I ain't never expected me none of y'all for real.
Ye.
So, but the golf connected the aartist like it just it just brought it all together. Yeah, and especially because it's so few of black people golfing right now, like you're gonna if they if they in the golf, like a lot of successful black people gonna be golfing.
Yeah, by the time you play eighteen hole with it in yall, friends, that's just what it is, bro.
Y'all gonna talk about everything little eighteen, not even and it ain't even gott to be no personal conversation. It's just when you're talking about golf and how you miss your shot and good shot and this. By then it's like, you know what I'm saying, This shit crazy, bro. Yeah, Like I feel like I've been missing out on something, not just not stunt, like damn have been playing this should have been good.
Yeah, I think the same thing. But it is what it is that you just gotta work with what you get. You shill get good, man. I'm pretty get good now. They got the Champions to it back.
You know, you go go pro the Champions to you gotta be fifty in up to get on there. It is. That's like the old pro golfers. They in like a fifty and up league. Four years on playing four years pro, four years. You just gave me a destination when a turn fitty, I'm getting in that ship.
That's a good goal. Yeah and ship. So you say it's the champions to call the Champions store, and what you gotta do to get in, I don't know how.
I guess you just pull up to I really don't know. I really don't know, but I know you gotta be fifty in up man. If you if you're good enough, you can you can get on to it. Just like the PGA too. I think how often you u you do tournaments? You playing tournament pretty often? Pretty often. Uh, the more you get into golf, like people always looking for people to fill in and they like groups, and you know what I'm saying, I'm always getting people hit me up like, oh you want to.
Come golf today?
Like at least like three four times a day, I'm getting like text about golfing. So I playing a few scrambles, but really been working them a lot. With the brand too, though.
Well you see a black black Ball golf brand in five year five years.
I just want to I just want to just keep pushing like us, like that's the that's the main thing.
I hope our story and our and our and our what we what we're.
Working for and striving folks remains the same. And I just hope we stay in the lane of trying to push younger golfers, young black golfers, young underprivileged golfers, and just continue to push them into the game. I think that's the main goal of black Ball for real, Like just to get more of.
Us in the game.
Like it ain't necessarily we out here trying to, you know, be the biggest brand in golf, but we want to just stand by what we believe in and really push our our narrative and push the clothes we like and you know, feeling good out there.
And that's the main thing.
Man. Like five years, I think it's gonna be bigger than bigger than ever.
But you gotta just go step by step.
I feel like, no, you gotta be always saying them out like I know y'all see me fucking up now, but y'all gonna be the same niggas saying even though niggas is pushing me forward, they're gonna be the same one saying, Man, I remember that Nigga couldn't hit that drive.
I remember he couldn't this. I remember. That's what I thrive about for.
That would give me the energy to keep going because when I do be it, when I because I know I'm gonna get good, like good good.
I ain't gonna play with this ship. You're gonna put the work in. Yeah, I'm gonna put the work in. So it's gonna be Nigga be like, nah, that Nigga shooting, shooting low seventies.
I was awful when I first started. Everybody is, That's what I'm saying, everybody is. That why I'll be telling you though, like when you be hitting, when you glimpse at a good shot, you're talking about that, just tell you the potential that you got exactly, and if you can just replicate that shot, you're gonna be good at golf and so many.
Motherfucker. It's just like you said, man, you can't be scared. Man, he needs it scared to be embarrassed in front of other people. That's what it is. Yeah, that's the big people. People pride bigger than they then they.
Ambition.
You think that discouraged like more people from getting into golf just because they get.
Into everything, not just go everything.
Motherfucker's scared to even just take because they don't want to let nobody see them fail.
You gotta feel in front of people too.
Yeah, if you I mean, if you don't ever fail, then you ain't trying to you know enough things like exactly, you ain't trying hard enough. If you know in time, Michael Jordan didn't make that shot that ah damn.
But it's the big one that he made.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But he made some big ones. Probably missed more than he made.
Man, it don't go.
Like how people think it should go because they watching him, like they say, watching another motherfucker highlight reel.
Yeah, that shit don't go like that. Bro.
You gotta be you gotta step out on faith. Yeah, believing in yourself ship.
A lot of people say that, like it's so cliche, but that's the biggest thing and everything, Like, you just gotta believe in yourself.
You gonna you can make it happen.
It's the moment of doubt that you gotta erase the you really pushed through.
Man, is that that is no doubt?
Who that was smiles just saying like saying that not believe in yourself you gotta know, Yeah, fuck believe fuck faith.
I know that's true. Who that was saying?
This ship Joe, It was, Oh, yeah, Stevie Baggs, My home is stevee bad. But I think you're doing to Oh I ain't no, did I ask him no? But yeah, Nah, it's a lot of niggas out there getting into this ship.
You think so many people like getting into golf nowadays, Like what what?
What? What do you think? Like why why did you pull up to the first turn that you went to? Like what was your Yeah?
My man like gonna do whatever, Like whatever he whatever he got going, I'm gonna fuck with it.
Whatever I got going forward. You can get Wilson right here. You know what I'm saying. He introduced me to the suit, cigars and all that shit.
I fucked with og. But because he's just a fly old nigga, you know what I'm saying. But he ain't look like no old nigga, fly old young niggas.
You know what I'm saying.
He called me out there to the thing. I always wanted to go to it anyway, because I thought that was a fly shit. He really asked me to model at the ship for him and the polo class is coming up to polo class.
I went there after He was like, man, I'm doing a golf tournament. Man, you gotta come.
Man.
You know what I'm saying. I play you just come, man, just ride on the cart me. We just gonna build. Went out there, hit a few balls. I played the whole eighteen. That was my first time el on the golf court.
How long ago was that That was two months ago. That was in in June. Okay, yeah yeah you brand new to that. Yeah so so shit.
I ain't mad at myself where I'm at now because I remember, ain't even hit the ball when I was out there with me.
I ain't kill them. I still trying. Now.
You gotta come on with a group behinds. I ain't no boat, none of that. The other thing, you stay up till you hit it. You ain't like the like the whole etiquette, Like you know what I'm saying, Like certain thing golfers do that you might not understand, like you might not know about you think that drives people away from the game too, Like how you feel about like all the little small little things that you noticing, Like gotta be quiet out there, like you can't talk while somebody here in they shot, or you can't. Like that's me that don't want to don't want discipline though, you know what I'm saying, Like they got some shit in golf that I heard.
I was like, yeah, I love this ship. I heard it like the first day.
They were like you know, when you're on the green, it's like you step on somebody line that disrespect that's disrespect. You cross the line in real life, you just disrespect me. Don't cross my line. You know what I'm saying, ship, So don't knock my focus off. But I'm in the tea boll shit the fuck up? You know what I'm saying.
What of gotta have gotta be disciplined.
Yeah, this is it ain't nothing but discipline, bro. Every man needs. Yeah, woman too, it's some good. It's some five women too though. Oh yeah, for sure I know that one. Yeah, I know a girl named Alexis Belton. She's one of the best golfers I've ever seen, like, no, no, no exaggeration.
And women, the best woman and women. She one of the best golfers I've ever seen. She played in the pro She played pro golf for a minute.
She living in London.
Black, young black girl. She uh, young black woman. Let me let me rephrase. But she she's she's an amazing golfer.
Uh.
She she always giving back to the community, running clinics and all types of stuff too.
So I gotta connect you with her for shows. What's the clinic?
Uh, you go to a golf clinic, you you basically learn the fundamentals of putting chipping, driving, grip, like all the little small things that you need to know, like the details about golf really to introduce you to the game and also teach you, like the fundamental part of it, like what you need to do to be have a good golf swing.
Pretty much.
People run a lot of clinics like for uh like uh, you can do a clinic for like corporate events, like they do that type of clinic, and then they got clinics where you can like do like a women's clinic, men's clinic like co ed like and then you have like three or four instructors there and just basically gutting people driving range.
Yeah, So how you think your perspective change when you started playing golf.
I mean, like you said earlier, the biggest thing is you you can't get frustrated with yourself, like you gotta really you gotta really be You gotta gotta be nice to yourself out there, Like you can't go too hard on yourself. You can't be like too self deprecating, like you gotta really be nice to yourself. You gotta you gotta treat yourself nicely out there if you want to have good results. I feel like and when I first started golfing, I hit a bad shot, I'm cussing on myself, like throwing clubs, like getting mad, not talking to the people I'm golfing with the whole round type shit, Like me like I like this when I'm not gone, you know what I'm saying. So I had to realize, like, yeah, my feelings too much and my friend never.
Let me live it down. Like what time we went to the Dallas Cowboys Club. I had a bad round with my boys.
I'm not talking to nobody at the end of the round, Like we're sitting there out eating at the end, I'm like, I'm my head down, not talking to none of them for the whole time.
We got to eat. Buddy, send me a picture like every year this is to come you remember. I'm like, it ain't be that, Like that can't be.
My persona out there me for real, And you can't let it affect you too much when you hit like bad shots and that type thing.
So no, I agree, Yeah, you just got to be nice to yourself.
I think it sounds like we're talking gone, but it's real, Like shit, bro, you know what I'm saying, Like when you go through something, just because you went through something on me. You gotta stay in it. Whenever you leave your mind and some ship, that's when you fuck up.
Bro. You gotta move past it. I got to prepare for the next h Yeah, that's that. That's that's great point.
Like you gotta have a short term memory, like because when I played corner and in football, Like, you gotta have a short term memory. You might somebody might catch the ball on you. But if you live with it and you keep in anything like you said, in anything, any sports, any any life. Yeah, you gotta you gotta have a short term memory. You got you can't live in in the past moments you got.
You a nigga, got a highlight peing on you out there. Oh yea, I'm nice. Yeah on you, you know, like when Ooh dogged you. Yeah? Yeah. One time? Who was I don't remember his name, but we.
Was playing Auburn Auburn University. This is my sophomore year. I was having a decent game before this. I don't know if it was a run up pay but somehow the running back I think it's number was number thirty four, thirty six something like that. I come up to him, I break down perfect like I'm about to make the tackle, Like I'm about to make the tackle, like ain't no out about it, Like I lunch out towards him.
He like hit me with a little juke juke. I'm on the ground.
He running down the field like and it's out in space too, like you didn't know what.
The whole crowd went crazy. Uh, that ship was embarrassing. That was That was definitely.
I'm definitely on his highlight tape for sure, if he got one, I'm on his highlight tape. Number thirty folks Auburn. It was like twenty ten. So look up at the roster.
That that you did. I don't know, I don't know how many time you did that.
I played defense mostly, but I used to I used to crack crack like I used to hit some folks, like back in high school and college, like I got I got on film like I'm knocking some knocking some folks heads off type ship with my picks.
I have some picks. I have some pick six.
I ain't really ain't get to I ain't get enough picks. I think back on that, I should have had more. Yeah, I should have had more. I had a lot of past breakups because yeah, I was fast, I was around like high fox folk, I was decent. I could I could play a little bit. You think you could have went out the way? Yeah, for sure. I think if all that didn't happen, like I could have got a chance, like I would have been like in camp trying to make a team.
So how you record, you just you just you just stopped playing football all the way around when that happened.
Yeah.
I tried to get back into it when I came back, when I went to Georgia State, but it was just wasn't in the cars.
I could just couldn't make it happen.
So once that happened, I kind of just focused on like working type things and then somehow got into golf and it like kind of create reliving that like competitive spirit at the same time of playing sports in the past. So you know a lot of people would have used as as their excuse to be like I missed my chance and just to be nothing. You know that, right, That's what most people do when they fail at one thing. They think that everything is old right, well not even feel if something just don't go as playing.
Like you said earlier, I think it was meant to happen, some flu shit. It just happened. It's just what it is.
Yeah, I can't stay right there though.
Yeah, it's just it definitely as my perspective on a lot of things, that's for sure.
How did your h How does your mom and dad take that? Like? That was tough?
That was a tough time, for sure, real tough time. I think just because it wasn't never. I ain't never really been in no trouble for real, Like I wasn't never really like you know what I'm saying, Like it wasn't never nothing gonna be no bad call about me. Like I was just chilling doing my thing, playing sports that type. It wasn't never no issue. So I think it kind of hit them, hit them hard for sure, and me at the same time, Like it was more embarrassing than anything for me, And I knew that I ain't want that to be like the end of the story, you feel like you embarrassed them a little bit too, Yeah for sure, for sure, Yeah for sure. I mean I was on a full scholarship and now I'm like, you know what I'm saying, I gotta find a way to get back into school and pay for it like it's it's a whole different you know.
Boy, they came and got you out high school. Ye what we're doing about this tournament, bro, we.
Need to make it happen. We gonna make it happen.
We don't need to make it. We're gonna make it happen. But I think it's gonna be huge, man. Like it just like we were talking about earlier, Like the way it connects, like the BBG, Big Bank Golf, Blackball Golf, the way it connects so seamlessly. I think it's gonna be a great event just because this it all happened organically.
Man.
I hear you say that word a lot, and I think that's so important. Like regardless, you gotta you gotta make organic connections. Like I don't believe in forcing that when you force it, it ain't gonna work anyway. So when you do it organically, like you were saying, and the connection between you and the brand and us on the golf course and just having a good time out there and you just recently getting into golf and we connect so quick, and you know what I'm saying, I think it was just you know, purpose for sure, gonna be a big event.
What else you see yourself? Yeah, to be to be announced to b d T b d T y two.
Okay on the day, Yeah, in the October right exactly like me Octoba and October.
It's gonna be huge, crazy. Yeah.
What's some goals you got outside of just golf and stuff like?
That's you know, when I say I got a lot of a lot of different goals, a lot of them is oriented with just being happy at the end of the day.
That's the main goal for me. Golf make me happy.
So I'm really focused on that at this point right now, and I like to drive down, you know, I'd like to stay in my lane, like if I'm really feeling something, I like to you know, put my energy towards that and really, you know, get to where I see myself at. Like I got high aspirations as far as you know, when I get into things, I want to succeed at whatever I do. So with the golf thing, I'm kind of ten toes down full focused on it right now. But in the long term, just being happy is the ultimate goal for me.
What's happening though to you you know, just healthy?
Main thing healthy, like taking care of yourself, feeling good about yourself, like when you when you're really invest in your body and investing in your mind. I think that makes you more happy, just because you like really taking care of yourself. And it's important to take care of yourself too, Like you can't always rely on other folks to take.
Care of you and give you what you need.
You got to really go out there and try to find what you your purpose is. I think that's the biggest thing. So yeah, just just health and I think, you know, having good relationships and being being strong in the relationships and like people trusting me, like with you know what I'm saying, they emotions and they state and that type thing, like being a person that folks feel like they can trust. I think that's important to me too.
Yeah. How you how you maintain like your friendship relationship, How you maintain.
It's crazy because me and my friends we being friends literally since like elementary school, Like it's like it's like eight or nine of us, Like we went to elementary. Well we ain't go to the same school, but we are always playing sports together at that point, and like we've.
Just been We've been strong my whole life.
Yeah, like we're real brothers like it's not no, it ain't never been no animosity for real, like obviously gonna fight with your you know, you know how that is if you got lifelong friends, like you're gonna get it.
When you call the k though, like man, you're stupid head bro.
Yeah sure that's what I expected. Yeah, I'm saying that's what I expected because I put myself in that situe, so you know, it was all of love saying that like sure, yeah, they trying to push me to be better and that's all how I always look at it when when it's your brother's for real, Yeah, yeah, you can't take it. It's like they trying me, they dissing me, Like you gotta you gotta look at it as constructive you know criticism.
What about traveling, Yeah, I love traveling. God can taking it around the world to show, like you want.
To see what the different courses look like around the nation, and it's it's every course got its own like personality. So traveling is is definitely one of my favorite things to do.
Who you think the gold is or the golf go to.
Golf, Tiger for sure we go, yeah, no question making them because jevity Yeah and how dominated he was at the time.
I know he was.
He wasn't like folk folks probably didn't like him winning. Like that's that's what makes it so crazy. Like as he got good, like folks love Tiger, but when he was first getting up there and beating all them folks and the young black guy like be these established people in the PGA, I'm sure he had a whole lot of heat on him, like he was getting some hate.
For sure.
They had him the mic shore that they he got caught up in another ship, had him up on the micros.
They was watching him trying to make sure like see if he made a mistake, and just you know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah.
He different, bro, I'll be watching it taps and ship. You can't watch that YouTube trying trying to learn.
How to play. Tiger said that too.
Tiger said that, like you can't watch YouTube videos trying to learn how to go because it's it's just so many different perspectives and your swing is for you, Like you know what I'm say saying, you can't necessarily try to replicate because your arms ain't the same lean, your legs ain't the same length, Like you know what I'm saying, like it's different for everybody.
So, yeah, the YouTube gonna mess your brain up. You're gonna be thinking too much. Who else? Who else? Who? Top five? You say, Tiger? Who is top five? Tiger?
You gotta go Scottie Shuffler right now? Who's been dominating golf right now?
Who else?
I probably put Phil Mickelson.
Yeah.
Uh, I'm all about like have you been doing it? And then how long you've been doing it for? Like, that's that's different. Like when you're doing it for a long time and you you continue to win, You're fifty years old, you still win the tournaments.
That's that's impressive.
Yeah, if I had the name two more, I really like, uh, genre I think he caught and then probably Rory. Yeah yeah, yeah, I had to say, I think that's a that's a decent top five.
Yeah, no for real, that's I love that ship though, Bro, I just I can't. I can't.
I wish I wish it was a twenty four hour course. They need to have the night courses, man. I feel like, yeah, Glowing the dug twenty four hour course. Yeah, that's ship we're gonna have to do.
They say that like the electricity bill be so crazy, like it'd be hard to like keep them up if folks ain't really pulling.
Up for shipp you smoke. Ah, we got who is on the golf course.
Like the driving range that like you ain't even gott to have like a whole you know, whole.
Set up three whole player three. Yeah you get you glowing the dark ball player three niggas running ship, the man in the circuit.
We can just do an event like that though we ain't gotta necessarily have a whole spot.
We could do an event like that. That'll be hard. Yeah, it'll be like some ship up some night night off event. We need to put that on and put that on that to it. That's it, Like that ship would be two player broye.
See, people don't like you said you we just got a brain brain to it, you know what I'm saying, Bring bring us to it cause niggas, like you said, niggas, may man, you better learn how to hit while nigga talking, were talking, nigga, you know what I'm saying, Like and I been like on summer, like uh at nighttime or something. It's a whole nother bout we're herell have fun. We're here to be competitive. Okay, we play god, but we'll have fun. We're teaching. We it's basically a clinic.
Yeah, it's time and place for you know, you know, some people playing real competitive golf, but it's also all placed. I feel like in golfer you to have a good time exactly, so you know, stiff on the rules and dress code and all that. So Black Ball kind of doing that too, Like we want to kind of like like tend the line about like is this acceptable to golf in or is this like you know what I say, streetwear like per se. So we kind of on that line and we want to kind of like confuse the line really because we feel like the golf.
Where right now it really ain't it for real? So it gotta be some mo.
It's crazy you play golf with a nigga. You know what kind of nigga is?
Yeah? Straight up one time because if a nigga.
Lied about his strokes and line and god damn, he's so mad about this, Like you said, he got mad and then talked. You know what I'm saying, he really can't control these emotions or he's a liar, or he's so you know what I'm saying. It's different ship, Bro, that shit crazy. Or if a nigga late, you know what I'm saying. Nigga always late.
You know what I'm saying.
You just learn about niggas, bron but not even know what I'm saying. There, You saying that.
Yeah, Like that's as far as business go too. Like you know, when you meet somebody out there on the golf course, you're gonna know if you can do business with this person immediately, because if you if you're out there lying like you said line about strokes and cheating and moving your balls, and that means something. It means a lot, I mean something.
That's why listen, no one. I'm out there learning the rules. But y'all know I'm moving my ball off after the bitch. It's in the water. I can't hit out of the water, you know what I'm saying. So I'm just like, Bro, I'm just playing. I'm just out here playing baseball. Or if I'm finished, take scode. This is what I'm doing. I'm playing with y'all.
But I can't.
I can't that day you get you know what I'm saying. But I ain't gonna be out there like bro, Bro, I'm putting for Birden. Damn, man, you putting for.
Bird And some people will say that to you. Man, it's really crazy. But yeah, like you said, you can learn a lot about a person that the.
Course really shit.
It's it's just like etiquettes, right, Yeah, you can see I don't know what's the what's the what energy that you try to try your bit to stay away from people?
Probably jealousy. If I had to say, like jealous energy is is that's a strong that's a strong energy. I feel like like if somebody jealous of you, they and they want to they really want to see you feel like or they want to be you type thing like.
That's never somebody I really want to be around. What's some signs of jealousy, Like comparison number one.
They not congratulating you, Like, yeah, I don't. I don't need much congratulations. I don't need much recognition. But you can tell if somebody like actively trying not to congratulate you on certain st Yeah, that's one of one of the main signs of jealousy.
I agree. Yeah, Like if you're.
Going out your way not to say you know what I'm saying, I'm seeing you all the time. You see you know what I'm saying, Like because I'm congratulating you, you know what I'm saying, Like, it's not it's not a one sided thing. Like if I see somebody doing good, I ain't jealous. I'm congratulating you, like and if I'm not, then that could mean something you never know.
Yeah, nigga trying to add like they ain't see it. Yeah, how important do you think it is to reinvent yourself? I mean it depends if you're doing good. I'm just saying, like good or bad, like if you if you're doing good, like like black Bottom took off, like Okay, now I might want to I might want to do something else like not just you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, I think it's really it's important. It's somewhat important to me. I think, like if you're in a lane and you're doing good, like it's important to maintaining yourself too, like and as opposed to reinvent yourself, like if you're already doing what you want to do, if you living in your purpose, sometimes you don't need to reinvent yourself, like because you are, it's already working for you. You're doing what you're supposed to be doing. But maintaining yourself is really important because if you in this lane, you got to keep working while you're having success too. So I mean it's a certain time to reinvent yourself and when you need to do it is very important. But at the same time, like certain people are already living in their purpose, already doing what they supposed to be doing, so maintaining themselves is important for them as opposed to like reinventing themselves when they're already doing well in what they're doing.
If you get what I'm saying, what about like what's your perspective pone like just.
Trying new businesses and shit, you mean like something looming or like working with new businesses or work with new business partners.
Okay, it's I mean it's it's just it's tricky.
It could be a slippery slope, like it's it's really hard to uh because being from Atlanta, I don't know, like if it's just us, like we always gonna be like real.
Like suspicious about things like everything.
Everything, But if something seems so good, like they've trying to push this opportunity to you, you don't know if it's a real opportunity. They trying to get over on you, and that's something you're gonna be thinking about in the back of your head.
But do that shit help her hinder us? Though?
I Mean, I think it's good to be it's good to be cautious, but sometimes you could be overly cautious out on opportunities at the same time.
Yeah, could what an email fuckers be coming left field like a motherfucker with this ship man.
It's somebody in the email. Oh yeah, we can find a way to make you an extra so and so. Your so and so likes it? Real? Is it's not real?
And then you actually do it and it's real, And then you're like, Okay, maybe I've been missing out on some stuff I should have been doing.
But I think you do you do you believe in energy? Yeah? So, can't you kind of feel certain shit? Yeah? But not when you first, like getting introduced to somebody, feel it through it?
Yeah?
Yeah?
You you sometimes our reject ideas before you know what I'm saying, I even go through a thorough you know what I'm saying, figuring out what's going on. Yeah, you can't really do that, you know, you can't yeah, you never know exactly, but I don't know. I think I think it's first sight. With me, I can kind of tell. I ain't saying them.
God, damn a god or nothing, but I can kind of tell at first sight. But I can adapt to that too, Like I can tell what type of personal person is like immediately, but I can adapt to it. Not saying I'm gonna be faked. I can just know I can't put this type of energy in that. If that makes sense what I'm saying. We're gonna get some business. We cant some bening together. We gotta be friends, you know what I'm saying. Like people getting that shit mixed up, Like just because we're doing beings together, we're cool. We gotta talk every day. If you talk to somebody every day and be around them every day, you're gonna start to see things you don't like. That's with anybody, even your spouse. If you're around a person every day, even if it's not a deal, Brok, I ain't mad at you, but I just don't like that, you know what I'm saying. So that's with anybody. So you're around them on for all the time, you just gonna then that shit start to weigh on you. I just feel like sometime space is good, man, with everybody, you.
Feel like like getting back to golf kind of like you feel like, does that give you an opportunity to like decompress when you out on the golf court.
Yes, yes, like cause it's like you with yourself, no matter if if you playing somebody or not, you still with yourself when you step up to that tea.
You gotta try to block these people out who with you. You feel like you're going on to the zone when you're out there. Every time, Yeah, okay, every time. Re it's a place of healing. Bro. I wouldn't even put lot thathing like that. Bro, I'm telling you, I just don't put the hiking down. Bro. I had to go the other day just to make sure I know. Man, I still hike. You can do both on the golf course. You walk with your bag and be walking there, But then it's a different walking in the in the in the wood, in the wood. That's true. I gotta come out there with you want to, But we can go before and then go to the of course, I can't. I can't remember the last time hiking.
Honestly, No, that Bro, this ship vied out, Bro, ain't Bush and that ship the same thing, but different on the different with golf is you're challenging yourself. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But the you just really you challenge yourself with that too. Though if you get tired, you get fatigued, like mentally, it.
Ain't getting that hard to whar you like about the I don't know if I can make it up to the top or nothing like that.
No, like that, okay, hell or not.
And first it was when I was got there three hundred pounds, damn how much weight you off?
Like shit, I'm at I was like down there three twelve. I'm like, I'm I'm fluctuating from one ninety six to two o three.
Okay, that's why you know what I'm saying. I been doing.
I'm in fluctuating for like six months now. Yeah, probably I feel great. A lot of that ship just going away, Bro, I ain't gonna turn that shit into that. But a lot of this ship just slowly releasing from a nigga, And it's like, God, push me into all the right spaces, Like, no, you need to be GoF you need to challenge yourself to to get your etiquettes together now, like it's all lining up to what you know what I'm saying, It's all lining up to like, yeah, you feel what I'm saying.
I don't. I don't know.
I don't know how to explain it. Niggas ass better wake up, man, We're gonna wake them up. Yeah, we're gonna wake them up. We're gonna showing we have fun. We're chilling. It should have vibe. Yeah, well, beautiful cart girls out there, I know what I'm saying. We've been be turn up man, bb G man, we've been turn this ship up.
Bro.
So ideally, what you want the tournament to look like? What's your in your mind? Like the perfect tournament?
Like what the vibe like? What? What what is looking like?
I want to do it at the spot we played today. I ain't gonna say it on came, but I want to shout out of my nigga trip to.
Nigga.
He'll leave it too, Judge, I fuck with that nigga trip. But I want that ship to look like she Black excellence the real way, you know what I'm saying, Like drunes and like ship you never saw before out there.
You get you some red wine where you pull up to a spot. You know what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying, You can take a shot of red wine if you want to, like, you know what I'm saying, Like community, take your shot of red one.
I said, we vibed out, bro, We're on the same page. We gotta make it happen.
Saying instead of cigarette, nigga, get you, you can get your pre roll as a whole.
You know what I'm saying.
That's a part of golf too. It's a whole culture around like smoking and golf. Like that's that's one sport where that's really the only sport where you can smoke and golf. I mean, that's the only sport you can play where you can smoke. It's like and ship yeah anything whatever you smoking. That's the only sport you can play.
You can't.
You can't smoke and play any other sports, Like golf is one of the ones that you really can like smoke a cigar and kick it like drink or drink.
I say, you got a drunken head.
Part Like people be hating the lead. I can see it in them dude face when you when you when they pull up. Everybody getting out the car.
Yeah, brother, nigga here to go home, nigga be like, we're playing tomorrow, nigga. Niggas say even that golf course, bro, I don't want to go. I feel him though, being a trick about it.
When you get on the fifteen, hold, that's when you start playing excellent, So you're like more this ship, man.
That's how they get you, how they get you to come back. You gonna have got there like spacking and ship's like man.
So now I can't wait to go in the morning. Yeah, you read books self help books? Oh nah, not really, you never read one. Okay, what's your favorite book? That's a tough question for me right now. I really, I really can't say. I can't say what my favorite book is, like.
More more more often than not.
Like at this point, I watched a lot of like videos like I'm listening to like audio books like me too. But in the in the past, I had like, I mean, it's gonna sound crazy, but Harry Potter was one of the like one of the first things that got me into reading for real, Like and then you used to go to them what was it called? Uh, it was like a math not not a matha thon. But the little book, you know, you had to read and then you got like the points.
I think I just it was something.
But if the book was bigger, you got more point. So like the Harry Potterships was huge. So but that really really got me into it. I sound like lebron On here like talking about.
Hey, so what's nicks for Blackball?
Go the BBG the Turn event. Yeah, yeah, we tend toes down on it. At this point, we were going in We're gonna have a great event. I can't wait to see, like because I already know like the feedback as far as you know, just your energy, I can feel like.
You got good energy. Man.
You've been making connections throughout the city for so long, like people gonna support whatever you do, and like you doing an event like this, you're gonna really drive so many people to golf that you don't even know right now, Like you're gonna have a whole different, you know, a whole different group of people out there playing golf. And just because you decided to get out there and do your thing. So I just think that the event, it's gonna be huge, man, and it's gonna it's gonna bring a lot of Uh, it's gonna it's gonna be a guiden step to what we're about to do in the future, and I think it's gonna be big for the for the future of golf too.
No, I encourage people to go get I'm gonna go get me some lessons too. I encourage people to go get lessons, just at least tried.
That's the thing. I ain't never got no lessons never, Like I don't know.
If it's a pride thing an ego thing, but I just never wanted to go get lessons.
I kind of wanted to teach myself how to do it. That ship do we have, like bro ship trying to get it everything.
Like That's why I ain't never really want to, Like I want to try to guide myself through to figure out why I did this, why I did that, And I feel like in the long run it would be beneficial. But lessons definitely like gona teach you the fundamentals quicker than trying to do it on your own.
No, well, I say so, We're gonna try to tie them foundations to it. What your foundation about?
Pass the part?
So we got an initiative. We're basically trying to give more access to to the youth, to children, to underprivileged kids, to that to the golf course, to equipment, to anything and all the necessities you need to play golf because golf can be expensive, so it's important to, you know, give them access and give them equipment so they can get out there and play and not have to worry about the money. So that what passed a part really trying to push and get more youth and kids into the.
Game, for sure.
Yeah, and uh, for sure, I just got my uh it's called curating different thoughts. I just got my uh you know, legit papers, whatever you call it. Yeah, we're about to go up with This is curating different thoughts basically, just like you said, trying to help people change their thoughts. You know what I'm saying, just because you depthite caused them and you got to play that hand. You can scheff, you know what I'm saying, Like, stop thinking that you gotta be this way because they started that way. You don't, you know what I'm saying. And special I really want to just help the people that's going through the things that calls from the street. If you get what I'm saying, If your mama's on drugs or your daddy went to jail or died in the streets, so you were just effected buy streets.
Ship. I just want to try to touch them people, let them know, like, bro, that ship, don't stop.
You still here, you know what I'm saying, and try to promote it healthy E just change your thoughts all the way around.
Bro, Just just trying to curate different thoughts.
And then it's the same initials to my brother Clayton David Tatum, so it means.
Something to me.
I want to put the logo out of got him on the logo with me and Ship, but curating different thoughts. I think we're going up with that one and we're showing them that we actually think different, like everybody around me know I think different. Yeah, I still be going in and out.
They know. I think that.
How you feel about like manifesting, like you you believe you believe in manifestation, like okay.
Because.
That's the only thing I really got because I always knew I thought myself out of every situation. I believe that I could do it like anybody at me. I was like, Bro, this shit going up regardless. I ain't never did nothing like I'm gonna keep one hundred, Bro, I ain't never did nothing. That just was just a straight dudo. I just quit, like I don't even want to do that.
Ship works.
I don't know God, it is just a gift from God. The ship works immediately, like it may not take all the way off of me, but it works immediately, like this shit working. I went in the studio, made a song, my first song.
A hit. Yeah, because you believe, because I know I knew, because you knew. You know what I'm saying.
Just just like God just favor certain people, bro, And I don't take that ship for granted. You think hard how how you think the balance of hard work and favor is?
Like?
What do you think that balance is? You think you get favored without doing the work? You think? No, no, no, you gotta be a hard work in anything. An.
I don't give a damn. You can pray every day and don't work. You ain't finna get shipped, ye, cause God ain't finna give you. Just put it in your hand. He gonna give you the will to do it.
Yeah, you can do it, nigga. All you say you want to do it, let's do it on which but you gotta do it.
Yeah, So what's your ultimate goals as far as like like golf goes, like what you want to what you what you want to see yourself doing in golf in five years?
Ship? I want to play in that fit. Yeah, I don't playing this ship. You just gave me my goal. I'm been playing that ship. Yeah up and look that up as soon as we get off line. Yeah, that's a good goal. Man. You just got you know how much work you're gonna have to Man, you're gonna help me get that. Bro, Hey, we're gonna work together.
Say you're gonna help me get that for y'all. Niggas hit man. Today I felt so I want to leave, y'all.
I text, I text my girl right what I left? Tell how good I played? Feeling good?
You've been crazy, bro, I'm like, Damn, these niggas here ain't bullshing. I was like, I'm sorry, it's fuck.
You know what I'm saying. You know I've been playing for five, five six years now.
No, but I'm just saying, but I get inspired from that. I get inspired from like I went and played again, man, Mike went to play.
What's that I played? I played good.
Uh.
We went and walked there Bobbie Jones. Okay, I left from out there.
We went to play Barba Jones, but we walked it, yeah, because they got the little automatic ship to walk behind.
Yeah, like Jones.
Yeah, I just played a little quick nowing. I was out there schmacking that motherfucker.
You playing. You're gonna keep getting better and better, man, Nah man j G Bro. I appreciate you.
Bro.
We're gonna double back. We're gonna do more content. We're gonna have a date for y'all.
Man, whole lot of content on the way. Yeah.
I just want to bring him over here. He ain't wanted his first interview. He didn't want to do it, but it came, and I appreciate. It's nervous, but you make it real easy to do the interview, man, So I appreciate you.
Man, I appreciate you. Brother. Doubt hey Bank telling them where to follow you at Bro.
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