 Samara chats with the groundbreaking psychologist and author of the new book How You Say It: Why You Talk The Way You Do—and What It Says About You, about what Ruth Bader Ginsberg’s changing accent tells us about human nature, how Hugh Laurie betrayed us, and the accent YOU have. As Katherine says, the language you use and the sounds you make are “so critical to feelings of identity, when you speak, you let a little bit of yourself out, for the world to interpret.” And sometimes, all hell breaks loose. From what went down at the trial of Trayvon Martin’s killer to how you yourself may very well judge a foreign accent, this conversation is about what the studies reveal about ourselves, and about what we can do about it. Enjoy this final episode for a while!



Host: Samara Bay

Executive producers: Catherine Burt Cantin & Mark Cantin, Double Vision doublevisionprojects.com

Producers: Samara Bay, Sophie Lichterman and the iHeart team

Theme music: Mark Cantin

Samara on IG: @samarabay

Cat on IG: @catburt & @doublevisionprojects



To sign up your kids for a study or learn more about Katherine’s work, visit: dsclab.uchicago.edu

 For Katherine’s book: indiebound.org/book/9780544986558

 For Adrienne Maree Brown’s book: indiebound.org/book/9781849353267

 For the full clip with Rachel Maddow: youtube.com/watch?v=yjP2k3dyq48

 How RBG found her voice: time.com/ruth-bader-ginsburg-supreme-court/

 The linguistics of Rachel Jeantel: ideas.time.com/2013/06/28/rachel-jeantel-explained-linguistically/



Email us at permissiontospeakpod@gmail.com and join Samara every Thursday morning for an IGLIVE @permissiontospeakpod.



And please pass this along to anyone who could use it. Leave us a review and rate us on Apple Podcasts or the iHeartRadio app, too. We’re grateful for all your support.

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Samara chats with the groundbreaking psychologist and author of the new book How You Say It: Why You Talk The Way You Do—and What It Says About You, about what Ruth Bader Ginsberg’s changing accent tells us about human nature, how Hugh Laurie betrayed us, and the accent YOU have. As Katherine says, the language you use and the sounds you make are “so critical to feelings of identity, when you speak, you let a little bit of yourself out, for the world to interpret.” And sometimes, all hell breaks loose. From what went down at the trial of Trayvon Martin’s killer to how you yourself may very well judge a foreign accent, this conversation is about what the studies reveal about ourselves, and about what we can do about it. Enjoy this final episode for a while! Host: Samara BayExecutive producers: Catherine Burt Cantin &amp; Mark Cantin, Double Vision <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.doublevisionprojects.com%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Csophielichterman%40iheartmedia.com%7C23ed566f7ee64409802d08d84ebd88be%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C637345923252582968&amp;sdata=QSZ1MvX0JLMiu7yz6dqt7KjtYi60RGfzcSlD%2FXIzAl0%3D&amp;reserved=0">doublevisionprojects.com</a>Producers: Samara Bay, Sophie Lichterman and the iHeart teamTheme music: Mark CantinSamara on IG: @samarabayCat on IG: @catburt &amp; @doublevisionprojects To sign up your kids for a study or learn more about Katherine’s work, visit: <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdsclab.uchicago.edu%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Csophielichterman%40iheartmedia.com%7C23ed566f7ee64409802d08d84ebd88be%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C637345923252582968&amp;sdata=jfKxOINbTC%2FIdCLJrjEVVoobCWmNN71ppDAKz%2B7uli8%3D&amp;reserved=0">dsclab.uchicago.edu</a> For Katherine’s book: <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Findiebound.org%2Fbook%2F9780544986558&amp;data=02%7C01%7Csophielichterman%40iheartmedia.com%7C23ed566f7ee64409802d08d84ebd88be%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C637345923252592962&amp;sdata=xdbCxSwh6qJgLkcYMPX%2BpIPbU2DDqChSVk1oEhuAkM4%3D&amp;reserved=0">indiebound.org/book/9780544986558</a> For Adrienne Maree Brown’s book: <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Findiebound.org%2Fbook%2F9781849353267&amp;data=02%7C01%7Csophielichterman%40iheartmedia.com%7C23ed566f7ee64409802d08d84ebd88be%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C637345923252592962&amp;sdata=tYTWjda0hwc2107s99YmFf1D4MY3t850jZq1nD%2BWxcA%3D&amp;reserved=0">indiebound.org/book/9781849353267</a> For the full clip with Rachel Maddow: <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DyjP2k3dyq48&amp;data=02%7C01%7Csophielichterman%40iheartmedia.com%7C23ed566f7ee64409802d08d84ebd88be%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C637345923252592962&amp;sdata=OOWxADefUCz1HpmsEG4TIjXwTRsrmkCWxyXpPc5KbX8%3D&amp;reserved=0">youtube.com/watch?v=yjP2k3dyq48</a> How RBG found her voice: <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftime.com%2Fruth-bader-ginsburg-supreme-court%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Csophielichterman%40iheartmedia.com%7C23ed566f7ee64409802d08d84ebd88be%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C637345923252602956&amp;sdata=jqdsitsdah3pctgpvpDowZYjynIPEh1VbhUmcn2WkZE%3D&amp;reserved=0">time.com/ruth-bader-ginsburg-supreme-court/</a> The linguistics of Rachel Jeantel: <a href="https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fideas.time.com%2F2013%2F06%2F28%2Frachel-jeantel-explained-linguistically%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Csophielichterman%40iheartmedia.com%7C23ed566f7ee64409802d08d84ebd88be%7C122a527e5b714eba878d9810b495b9e3%7C0%7C0%7C637345923252602956&amp;sdata=OGQehhGjq7G2SgLc0jtWT6WA3qf68l1VJ%2F%2FinZmT6WY%3D&amp;reserved=0">ideas.time.com/2013/06/28/rachel-jeantel-explained-linguistically/</a> Email us at <a href="mailto:permissiontospeakpod@gmail.com">permissiontospeakpod@gmail.com</a> and join Samara every Thursday morning for an IGLIVE @permissiontospeakpod. And please pass this along to anyone who could use it. Leave us a review and rate us on Apple Podcasts or the iHeartRadio app, too. We’re grateful for all your support. Learn more about your ad-choices at <a href="https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com">https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com</a>

Permission to Speak is a fun and fiery romp through how we talk and what our voice says about us with Samara Bay, speech coach to the stars and public speaking adviser back when there was a public to speak in. Each week she interviews people who specialize in how we use our voice and people in the public eye who are USING it—what it took to find their voice, when it still wavers, the crap comments they’ve gotten for being too loud or too soft or too millennial or too anything because PEOPLE HAVE OPINIONS, and how to give ourselves permission to speak like we belong in rooms of power just as we are. Let’s destabilize the patriarchy together! Let’s talk about deep AF societal dysfunction and how it plays out on our bodies and voices, but, like, have fun doing it! Hi. This is for you.

Permission to Speak

How to Check Your Bias: Accents with Dr. Katherine Kinzler

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/b43df1dd-34c0-4890-bd1e-ae3300348330/transcript

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