Patriots Unfiltered 8/29: 53-Man Roster Reaction, Jacoby Brissett Named Starter, State of the Patriots

Published Aug 29, 2024, 6:21 PM

Tune-in as we react to the news of quarterback Jacoby Brissett being named the starting. We take an overall look at the Patriots 53-man roster as the team made several moves, we break down who made the practice squad. Plus, an overall state of the Patriots look.

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I got the day right. So we're starting off on the right foot. It is deuced Paul Evan, myself, Matt and the booth and we're coming here after the big news broke this morning by Adam Schefter and in Rappaport that Jake Jake Jacoby Brissette jakeset Kobe Brissett is the starting quarterback for at least week one and probably for a few weeks after that anyway. And then Gerard Mayo came and addressed the media, uh and reiterated what the breaking news was for a couple of minutes. And now we know it's not a secret anymore. And I don't think anyone's surprised. I'm disappointed me too, but not surprised.

Everybody.

So what do we think, guys? I usually let Paul go first. That's why I was.

I'm disappointed. If if you guys insist I was, you know, I had obviously this is the way it was trending, and this is what we all thought was going to happen. But you can hope to be wrong. And I was hoping I was wrong.

I was.

I wanted to see May. I totally understand the reasoning, you know, the the you know, shortcomings of the rest of the offense, you know, offensive line and receivers and all that. But I thought that that May was making a lot of progress, and I thought he was pushing to play sooner than later. But I could be patient.

Yeah, unfortunate part now is you don't really get to see May anymore, like until he gets a start, if he gets to start, you know, like that, that's what's disappointing to me. Well, it was fun watching We're all working on our Drake Maine impressions. As you might be able to.

Tell, Mike will have the best one because he's better at it.

And intensely he does. He doesn't do that and intensely it kind of throws.

Me off and I'm asking him a question because he stares at me like just like that. Yeah, not a big deal.

At all, but it just so that that was Look, that was the funnest part of the summer, right, watching him play and develop and stuff. So no, we don't we don't get to watch practice anyway. So I guess it's not that big of a deal. But but that's what you're not gonna Se're gonna seehim on the sidelines now or maybe some mop up team time when the Patriots are blowing teams out and you know you just have to wait for those.

Yeah.

I was pretty fired up after the press conference. I'm not gonna lie I was, and then I you know, it's good that we had a couple of hours to kind of let it take a maatgerate but before we came on the show, because really, at the end of the day, the reasons why I was mad had absolutely nothing to do with football, and they were all selfish and you're gonna hear a lot of that today. I am sure that there's gonna be critiques of the press conference and how it was handled and the whole situation, But at the end of the day, none of that really matters, and it was the right football decision to start the season off with Jakobe were set. The one thing that didn't make me feel great, and I understand he kind of had to say it was him saying for the season and then kind of doubling down on that. I just felt like it was sort of ignoring the elephant in the room, What would.

What would be the better way to explain it.

That Jacoby breseets our quarterback for now, for.

Now, and we'll just say he's our quarterback. He's our quarterback.

But I understand why he wanted to put his support behind Jacoby. But you drafted Drake May third overall for a reason, and he has even to all of us that he should play this season. Like, I don't think we're in the red shirt ear conversation anymore with Drake May, So that piece of it makes me worried that they might look at that piece of it a little bit different. Yeah, I don't think.

I mean, even yesterday when he wasn't telling us what he was going to do, he kind of did when he said what's good right now may not be good a few weeks from now, right Yeah, you know, so who I guess he could be talking about other positions, but I think we all assume he's talking about the quarterback.

That's how I took that yesterday.

And I feel like he can't lose. It's like they're either gonna win with Jacoby Brissett or you're gonna get to see Drake May right. I mean, I know there'll be some timing, but generally that's yeah. I mean, they's not gonna keep rolling Jacoby Brissett out and they're terrible. I mean, I mean that will be the only really bad case in right.

But like, barring them being four or five and zero, you're still going to Drake May when he's ready like that. That's sort of where I I you know, Ryan Fitzpatrick was I think three and three with Miami something like that, and they were in the hunt and they were playing pretty well, and they still made the change to Tua, right, And I just feel like that's that's the one thing that I was a little bit dead the decision was was we all could have seen that coming from a mile away that day we're gonna name Jacobe with the starter, But it just feels to me like you have to acknowledge the fact that Drake is still the future of this team. Yeah.

The only thing I would say that I disagree a little bit, at least for me personally. I didn't see it a mile away. I thought there was a good chance that they were gonna tell us that Drake May was going to start Week one.

Yeah, but we were just out there.

I practice it all summer long, and it never wavered.

You're not giving up yet, are you?

Oh?

I was still in play. They haven't played yet.

That's true.

I know, I know how you operate.

That's true.

That's true.

Yeah, not wrong until you're wrong.

Yeah, mathematically out of it ye, yeah, they still have day left. Yeah.

Yeah, it never waivered. Like even Jacoby said it after when we talked to him in the locker room. He was with the ones all summer, Drake said it. Yeah, he's taken one's.

You're right. And the question I have now is now that Jacoby is going to be the starter, he's going to get the reps this week to get ready for Cincinnati, how do you give May enough preach, you know, during the season now where you're getting ready every week for another team, where you know, okay, now's the time.

Yeah, that's what they asked him in the locker room today, was you know, what's your kind of plan now? I mean it's I mean he clearly didn't have a firm answer. He talked about some scout team reps and you know, working with some of the younger players and trying to help them develop and you know, making the most of his second team opportunities. So I I mean, it's a great question, and especially if they care about him as much as we think that they should, like he needs to be developed. Still, it can't just be and now Drake goes in, like you would hope that there's going to be some real competitive chances to get him in and really try.

And I think there will be. I think they'll probably do stuff. Let's you know, and I hate talking like this because it sounds so negative and defeatist, but let's sort of try to be as realistic as possible. Like, let's say it doesn't get off to a great start, and I don't know how many weeks that would be. You know, let's just say four, because I think you break it up into quarters. Let's they're one in three or zero and four or something. You know, at some point that's gonna say to them, Okay, you know this isn't working. We're gonna need to go to the rookie. I don't think, as Mike said, you can just say, Okay, Drake, may you're starting this week. No, you need to treat the week. You know, at some point, like Brissette gets some of the reps and may get some of the reps, and it's a process. And maybe you do that for a week or two and then you prepare May for the whole week and he starts like, I don't know if that's week five, I don't know if it's week eight. I don't know what week it is. Yeah, but you can't just say it's percent percent percent getting all the first team reps and then okay, it's not working with him. May's in there this week. You have to get him reps too.

I practice advocate putting May in in games that are not really you know, I'm not saying that they're getting blown out, but.

Okay, let's just that people say San Francisco, like, let's say the second half goes the way that a lot of people think it's going to go. Does he get his feet wet there and then start the next week.

I was just about to say, you know, could we be maybe we're being thrown the biggest curveball at all where yes, Jacoby's our starter, but we're going to find spots to put May in during games. Yeah, not necessarily a platoon like first half second half Michigan did with Brady.

But I don't see that, you know, I'm not telling you, well, that's different.

Yeah, you know, well far betch.

But let's let's just say you're playing Cincinnati and you get to the second half and it's three nothing. They're winning and our defense is doing good. All we're going to do is score a couple of touchdowns. We can win this game. But Jacoby is not doing anything.

Is there a chance? Is there a chance?

I don't think there is, But I think about that happening here, and I imagine that there's gonna be some fans that are going to be chanting just like that, you know, I mean that that's going to probably start to build. Is I think that That's what I'm looking for. Is the season goes on, it's how does the the you know, the roar build for the fans of wanting to see him, Like how ineffective or effective is the offense? If the offense is really ineffective and the defense is keeping a minute like they had the last couple of years, you know, I can easily see.

A situation, no doubt, if the if the offense is spark and the defense is playing fairly well and they're at home, the Drake may chance will be audible.

I honestly I'm sure that that will happen, but I almost feel like I would be clamoring for him more if it was going well. Because if it's if the protection isn't terrible and this offensive line is coming together and it's not as terrible as we all gone well on the scoreboard, it doesn't it's irrelevant to No, it isn't it is because I think if they're scoring points, I don't think people will be that impatient. I would say that people like me that are Drake may guys will say, well, it'd be even better if you have Drake No.

But but you hear what I'm saying, like, if there's scoring points that it's like, Okay, he's seeing the offense, he's you know, doing that whole learning from the bench thing and and all that. I don't think it's people would be as impatient if, like in my scenario where we just can't score points and the defense is keeping us in games again and it's just not fair. I hear what you're Let's give the offense a chance. And I feel bad for Jacoby Brissett that we're talking this way, by the way, but if.

The offense is a train wreck and they're not scoring points and Jacoby's under siege and he can't get the ball off. Why would you want to put Drake May into that situation? Well, again, you.

Have to have context. Why is he under siege? Is the under siege because he's not making decisions?

You know what I mean?

Like, you know what, like a better quarterback can sometimes help the offensive line.

Yeah, I would just be for me, I would just be much more inclined to put Drake May in there if it actually looks better than what we thought it was.

So the offense is a little bit more ready for me.

Yeah, I get what you're saying.

And I think if that was the case, maybe there'd be more of a push to start in week one if it looked good. So let me let's let's hit on that topic a little bit. This morning, I'm listening to one of Paul's shows and Michael Holly was the fill in host, and he was he was on the side where everybody else on the show was, you know, this offensive line is the worst in the league. It's a train wreck. Blah blah blah. He was saying, Listen, it's not that bad. Washington looked bad obviously, because but it was mistakes. It wasn't that they couldn't block anyone. It said they were making stupid mistakes. They have enough talent. This is his words, that they can block people. David Andrews can block people, Big Mike can block people. You know, even Leyden Robinson Waiting has the talent to block people. He said, it's not that bad, you know.

So I don't think it was that bad against Washington other than all the obvious mistakes with the penalties, right, it was that bad against Philadelphia and.

The joint practice, Oh yeah, no doubt.

When the only time they played against starters it was a trainer. I think it was fourteen sacks. Yeah, like they couldn't block. It wasn't just mistakes. I agreed with the panel in that discussion. Not Michael.

I got another good view of that. The Eagles put out this whole, like fifteen minute video of their whole preseason in training camp, and they had some video from training camp with Brandon Graham miked up and chirping the whole time of the Patriots. It was just interesting we put out our video of miked up. I think Peppers was micd up, but getting to see Brondon Grahm chirping at everybody, and he had a couple flying off the edge and oh, I got you know, the same thing Pep had. It's just interesting. But yeah, I agree with Paul. I mean, I think that's why I just want to get going, like I just want to get a game, like, let's just get one under our belt. That's why I was okay with Jacobe. Let's see what these real problems are. I mean, if those two guys off the edges are you know, cousin havoc against our tackles as a Hendrickson.

And I'm with you to an extent, Fred Pubber, I'm not sure how good it is, but you can play like this is. They are NFL players and they can play the game like it's not all fill ins. Like to your point, Andrews in a one ye will be out there. I don't know who the other three will be right now, because I know, like like Girodmeo yesterday said that it looks like Citiso avoided a serious injury. That doesn't mean he's gonna be able to play right against Cincinnati.

He hasn't been practicing, you know.

And Vederian Lowe, you know, is not Pradon. So I don't know who's actually going to be out there, but if it's chokes A Kora four, yeah, we don't think he's played all that well, but he's an NFL player, they should you know, I don't anticipate this being like one of those ten sacks games that man, this was embarrassing, right, So I'm sort of in the middle. I don't necessarily think it's just gonna be fine. Yeah, but I also don't think it's gonna be completely derailed. You can't run an offense because your offensive line couldn't run.

Yeah, third and lungs to be scary, Like, I think that's you know where you're gonna get concerned.

You're gonna get a lot of screens.

But then that's that was the other point I was gonna make is that they're gonna they're gonna try to avoid their weaknesses and they're gonna try to attack the other, you know, the defense's weaknesses. So how does it all come together? You know, it's just it's such a you know, there's a chemistry to it that you don't really have any idea of. And that's every NFL team right now.

It's you know, last year, they used a lot of screens and quick passes and they just didn't work that well.

You know.

Yeah, that was another reason to me, like not the main reason to maybe not go with Drake may to start the year, because putting him out there to throw screens in quick game is it's not helping him develop. Like it's just, yes, that might be how they need to win games right now, but that's not you know, him reading defenses and going through progressions and you know.

Doing all that kind of stuff.

So how valuable are those types of reps really if you are an offense that is just focused on scheming to avoid pressure, Like that's literally all you're able to do offensively. Is like what we've seen in the last couple of years. The tape against Washington was better than I thought it was watching live. That's not to say it was good with the offensive line against the Commanders, but watching live, I felt like the Eagles joint practice where I was like this was felt like the quarterbacks were under siege, like Jacobe gets hurt like instantly on you know, how can you say it's a good game when the starting quarterback is already injured from playing behind this line? When you watched it back. They were under pressure on seven of their twenty six dropbacks between Brissett and May. That's not terrible. That's that's not terrible. But a penalties and quarterbacks.

They're yeah, they're non starters.

So that's why I'm just over the qualifiers the preseason and who was playing and who wasn't. It's like, let's just get real concrete information. There ones are ones. It's a real game. There's tackling to the ground, the whole deal, you know. And then that Monday you say, all right, this is what it's this is where we're starting from, and all.

Right, we should go over some of the personal moves guys coming and going, uh, Mike do.

So I did?

I did color coded, So there was there was a bunch of movement to be well, I guess we didn't even run down the four guys that they signed off waivers, which was Trey Jacobs. Is that right, Evan?

You talked to Tray Trey Jacobs as well as Zachary Thomas, and then they signed Eric Johnson, a linebacker, as well as one.

More where's the last one?

Curtis Jacobs.

Curtis Jacobs and Eric Johnson Yeah, the two defense, So two guys on defense, two offensive linemen. Jacobs is a tackle. I was watching some of him. He played some left tackle for Denver and then Tom there you go, Polly Uh. And then reportedly they've signed h Bryan Hudson, a center who was with Detroit in training kids.

That sounds like a practice squad.

Practice practice squad, practice squad guy. And it does look like the guys that they released yesterday, which included Jalenrager. Kind of surprised a little bit on him being one of the release guys. Isaiah. We don't know about Isaiah Olden yet. We're still waiting to hear on him. But Jalen Rager is back, as well as Uh.

Tristan Tristan hill Reger, and Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan, they were all in the locker room. We don't know what their status will be.

Yea practice on the practice squad.

Yeah, it's gonna be a disappointing conversation for somebody like you know, Rager, especially who kind of signs. We all kind of felt like, I mean, I felt like you would make it over Booty, but maybe Age at the end of the day, maybe it's you know, a little bit un potential.

So I just like I had a and I don't know if this is right, but my theory on that was the four guys they released, Tristan Hill, Jalen Rager, Michael Jordan, the three of them, they don't have to clear waivers. Yeah, they're all veterans, so you can release them and you can say we have plans for you stick around. We got to wait and then, you know, sometimes that happens like Brian Hoyer did that, you know, one year, and I think the Colts gave him ten million dollars so he signed with with the Colts and he ended up leaving. But Bolden would be the only one of those four guys that had to clear waivers, correct, So I think if they had put Booty, you know, if it was rigor over Booty might to you a point. Now you got to worry about the waiver process. Maybe he clears, and I don't know, but just you know, second year receiver, maybe he doesn't. Maybe someone's you know, looking for wide receiver depth and they take a shot at him, whereas they're not necessarily doing that with Reger, who they're going to have to give some money to because otherwise he's just going to stay here where he's already comfortable.

Mike, you mentioned, you know, it might have been a you know, a difficult conversation, and you know made me think, Paul, you were talking, we were talking earlier last night, the Patriots had their Premiere, which is their you know, main fundraising event where everybody comes. It's a mandatory event for all the players and coaches to attend. And you know, Gerard get introduced by Devin mccordy, who was the MC. And you know, Devin was kind of making fun of Gerard a little bit because he was kind of walking slow getting up there. And you mentioned and I kind of agree, like, I'll bet you this was a tough week for Gerard Mail. You know, forget about just making the starting quarterback decision, but having to make all these first time that, you know, having to look guys in the face who worked their butts off all, you know, since the spring and say you know, you're you're not good enough to make the team. I'll bet you that was tough for him, having you know, done it the first time. I'll bet you that he insisted on doing it himself, you know, so I bet you that kind of war on him over the week.

It seemed like yesterday and yesterday's press conference that was almost the tone. Like the way he came up, I think was like, good afternoon, it's still you were like, yeah, you can tell it's you know, it's tough, and I mean, let's face it, as we said on last year, i mean, yeah, you're the rubbers meeting the road now in terms of being an NFL head coach and everything that comes with that and all the hard decisions and all the responsibility that lands with you that you made these decisions and when you say things and what you don't say and all those things. Just you know, it's a it's a constant battle for these guys, and I think they're probably excited to just get away from all these decisions and get into the regular season, like we said, and you know, and then it's about the games, and I mean, who knows what it's going to be like, but you know, then you just kind of focus on, right, we're on this game, and then you know we're onto Cincinnati, that old thing. So but yeah, I agree totally. I mean, this is this is it. I mean, it's a really really hard job. There's a reason why, you know, it's it's you're at the forefront of this whole organization making decisions and he's new at it.

Yeah, it definitely seemed like yesterday because somebody asked him, why didn't you just tell the team yesterday about the starting quarterback decision, because he said he had already made the decision, and it I thought he was genuine when he said, this has been kind of an hectic morning, like this has not been all sunshines and rainbows for me the last twenty four hours, and I kind of seemed like you wanted to just take a breath for a second and just reset from move from cuts to.

Now, you know, worrying about who's starting.

And it's not like he can just like go over the speakerphone and say, you know, like in school, all right, we're going to have a class assembly now and everybody gather. You know, it's there's a little bit more to it, so you know, we had to get everybody in one place and tell everybody in person. So you're involved in making all these cuts at the same time. So this was probably, you know, the first big thing where Gerard said, oh, you know, this is being a head coach.

In the NFL.

It's moving part.

Yeah, there could be a lot of things happening at the same time, so you know, for what that's worth. You know, a lot of people criticize how it was handled today. I thought it was infit efficient, but you know, who knows what's going on behind the scenes. You know, I'm sure this was a lot for a first time head coach today.

Yeah, like I said earlier, if you were if you're critiquing them for that, then you're just being selfish. Yeah, like you're just mad that you like selfish. Like I'm fully selfish too.

If we're gonna leak it, I'd rather have Patriots dot Com leak it than Adam Schefter. But I get how that works. I get how it works. But all I can say is once it leaked, and just send out a tweet that this is the decision. You don't need to have a press conference after that.

Yeah, it was good that we got to go in and talk to Jakobe and Drake, both of those guys in the locker room right after. So it's a little bit of this new setup now where you know the guys are Actually it's going to.

Be a problem right before.

Why that they're that May and Brissett's locker are right next to each other. You're gonna have the media always over there. It's gonna be tough for those two guys.

My guess is, Well, the starting quarterback, my guess will go on Wednesdays in the media work room like they always tap down, So you're not really dealing with one of those guys, I guess. So now to your point, the backup is going to be a story.

Right, They're going to go to after him every game.

The backup is going to be a story.

They got to go to Drake and be like, so pretty rough game for the offense on Kobe's like time.

But even if it's May starting or sets a story.

Yeah, this is one of those things where Bill Bill would never let Drake May talk right now, right Drake May would be you know, Aaron would be running after me. No, no, you know right like there, No Drake May until he's starting would be the rule. And now we'll see if they're that strict about it, because I would be like, there's all he's going to say is going to hurt himself. There's no good that's going to come from him talking.

I don't know, what do you mean.

No, I don't know. I don't know if that works.

Not letting him talk or letting him talk, not.

Letting him talk. Like I heard like people and I know what it different to you a point, like it's different with a rookie, Like part of it is that he's a rookie, and I get that, But like I heard an argument on the radio, the Patriots botched this whole Matthew Judon thing because they let him talk, And I'm like, who the f of the Patriot like to say, who can talk? Like Matthew Judon is a veteran in this league, like you think Gered Mayo had the ability to say you can't talk right now. Again, I know it's different with a veteran as opposed to a rookie, but I don't think that's a road you want to be going down.

Well, particularly a guy like that. But I think with a rookie, Bill would say you're not talking.

You know, keep a lid on it for a little bit, Like you're not talking is different than keep a lid on it.

You know.

He intimidated the players for the most part, to not not talk. But I don't think that's the way they want to do business. I don't think that's the way Mayo wants to go about this. I agree, and I think that if you just say don't talk, I don't think that works.

Well, he's not required to talk, like during training camp, Judon's required like they're required to make Judne available.

Players are required to be available.

They are, but he's a Drake would be required to be available during the week after games if you don't in the game.

No, no, no, like that. Yeah, I'm not talking necessarily after a game. But their response there they are required to be available.

You know.

That's the whole h On Lynch thing. Like I'm just here so I don't get fined, right, Like there's there is a minimum requirement. Now, no one here, no one in well. I don't think no one in this media corps is gonna call someone out and say, like, listen, I've been in the locker room every day and uh, you know, I haven't seen Leyden Robinson, Jimmy Collins since the first since the first week. I don't think people are going.

To do that, but they will if it's Drake may But I do.

Think that people are going to want to talk to Drake May. Yeah, pick, I don't. I don't think you can just blanket. I totally get the point, but I don't think you can just blank it tell someone you can't talk.

Yeah, like slippery slow build.

Bill definitely intimidated people, you know, the players into sort of being careful, especially the young guys. I don't think that's the case anymore, that it would.

Be our suggestion to you that you do not speak.

You know, we wouldn't went on anything to happen.

You know, why are you doing? Because we can just make fun of Italians every time we want morel You heard them, just.

Mob guys, mob guys.

Oh so now all Italians mobbed up.

I didn't say that, you did.

I didn't say that.

I mean, got it.

Let's be honest.

That's it.

That's fine. You like Goodfellas, you like that movie.

I do like good Fellas. It's a good movie.

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Doesn't insult you good Fellas.

No, it's good movie.

All right. Web radio at pages dot com is the email address eight five five pass five hundred is the a stick and hotline? What else do we have? Anything else? Before we talked about personnel, we talked about the quarterback decision.

People care about the practice squad doing care. I don't think we well Mike cares well, I'm glad Jennings because we didn't. But we didn't have that on Tuesday, right, Yeah, these are show we like to be the show of record.

Yeah, I don't think the official ones that were signed Terrell Jennings, Matt Landers, Mitchell Willcox, Liam Fournette, Dell, Kevin Harris, A J. Thomas, and then we're assuming Brian Hudson and Jalen Rager, Tristan Hill and maybe Bolden who.

Was one more, and there was seven guys that they officially.

Jatham Russell as well.

I was thinking about, you know, I know it's not fair, but how things have changed where none of our guys who got released were picked up by another team and we picked up four players on waivers. You know that used to not be the way, right.

Well, the four players is a lot. Yeah, looks for Carolina.

Yeah, I was a little surprised about four players and like, no offense meant whatsoever to Eric Johnson, But like, is Eric Johnson really better than Tristan Hill? Like, is that that's really like a player? You felt like that's an upgrade, like he's played a little bit more in the league maybe, so like there's a little bit more experience there. But we're not talking about one of these veteran guys that was a cap casualty someplace else that has something left in the tank, like or anything like that. I those ones, I don't know. They obviously see something in him, but it was like you're kind of moving the deck chairs.

You guys know these rules, I think a little bit better than I do. Like, so the practice squad elevations, yes to a game, So how many is a player allowed?

Three?

So can you elevate Tristan Hill to the active roster the first three weeks of the season and then at that point if you yeah, you know, because the guys I should point out the guys that are on that would claim no waivers, the four you know, the two Jacobs and Johnson and who's the.

Other guy I don't know, Zach Thomas.

Zach Thomas's I forget of fame linebacker.

Linebacker.

So those four guys are required to remain on the Patriots active roster for at least three weeks, yes, so they don't have to be active for the game. They just have to be on the active roster, so they could be game day in actives. And to Evan's point, is Tristan Hill probably in a better position to help the team right now than Eric Johnson. So can you have Eric Johnson one of the inactives and elevate Tristan Hill from the practice squad? Probably can do that. Probably can do that until you're sort of determining what those guys can do.

Yeah, I was thinking now with the wide receivers as well.

Reager active, Javon Baker inactive, correct as an example.

And I wanted to bring that up because just like every year we do this with the receivers. Last year it was Keasehawan Boody that healthy scratch every single week got people up in arms.

Baker.

There's a chance that we that Javon Baker is healthy scratch.

There's a chance that Baker and Booty could be unactive.

Yeah. Sure, and Jalen Raager elevated to return kicks activated, you know, as more like a return man than anything, And that would be I wouldn't be surprised.

Like I would say, you know, based on what we've seen in the practice. You know, Polk Douglas, Thornton, and Osborne will be active. Yeah in Week one. Barring an injury between now and then, those four guys will I would be pretty comfortable saying they'll be active after that. I mean, maybe you have a fifth guy active, maybe maybe the other guys are inactive.

You know, we were talking about the foot. The football decision of making may Ja Kobe the starting quarterback is a good one. You know, it's hard to argue with the football reasoning behind that considering the state of the offense. And to further I think emphasize that is, do we know who the best receiver on this team is right now?

Who don't like in terms of.

Like, oh he's a w R one, like no, forget about but who's the I have a guy that I would pick, but I don't know who it is, right, I mean, I would say Douglas, but I don't know. Doesn't that further illustrate the fact that we have no idea what this offense is and we have no idea if we started may what we would be inserting him into.

Yeah, it's not just even it's that and they don't know how they're going to move the ball, right.

That doesn't make sense. You know, I'm kidding.

I'm kidding inside Joe.

Oh, they don't even know how they're going to move the ball right now?

Like what are you good at?

Right you know? Who are your go to guys? You know, how are you going to run the ball? Are you going to be able to run the ball? Exactly? Like they don't know any of these things. And uh, you know, I look at the first month of the season for Alex van Pell like this is a information gathering time frame right now, where when you get Drake May in there, you better know what your identity is offense, Like how are we going to move the ball, how are we going to score points? What are we good at? Like you don't know any of those things right now.

Only there's two things I know. David Andrews can play center, and Remandre Stevenson is a good running back.

That's pretty much like.

If I were to speculate, though, I think the tight ends are going to be heavily involved. I think those two, you know, it seems like Henry's back at practice and him and Hooper and you know running the ball with Ramandre and Gibson, like those four guys, like even just kind of leaving the wide receivers out of it. I think that those four guys are really big parts of their plan, and well, yeah, they're gonna have to try to supplement in the receivers and hope that you know those guys are are.

Oh, we know who the people who are going to be involved, but we don't know like what it's going to look like. I mean, is Hunter Henry going.

To play a week one he's back out there?

I mean, yeah, I don't know. You know, you would hope that he is, because at least we have a little bit of a record of what he looks like, but we don't know what he looks like in this offense.

Right, But you do know with Hooper a little bit, and I think he's he was a lot more effective I thought this summer than I thought he might be. It's hard to take the cheese on a t E two again. I know we've been doing that the last few seasons with those guys, But I just think those guys are gonna be kind of the engine to this to this offense more so than the receivers, at least early on, and you hope they can get to a place where those receivers can be an engine to them. But I think he really trusts Hooper. I think he trusts Henry, and I think those are the guys he's he's really going to be looking to the most.

Yeah, it's interesting. I feel like those guys getting targeted further down the field in this offense than maybe the past Patriots offenses where they were kind of just chain movers and that sort of thing. You saw a lot of you know, slot fade seam type things, crossing routes like stuff off of play action. That's gonna get those guys more involved in the explosives instead of just you know, it's third and six and we need seven yards out of hunter.

Henry, Hey, how was your responses? I liked your tweet yesterday with Taekwon Thornton of like, you know, Evan put a little cut up of just you know, like Taekwon creating some separation downfield various plays got the pre which seems like that's like you throw.

It in and run. I like the like couple of people that he's not opening any of these clips, like okay, ball noverall he's.

The only is that your bio?

That's good?

I know, Ball go learn nowhere, go learn what NFL opens. This isn't this is in high school where like, guys are ten yards of separation, right.

Uh, let's go line eight five five pass five hundred. Brad's in Ohio. What's up, Brad?

Hey, guys? How are you doing this morning?

Pretty good?

Good?

Interesting?

Yeah, always good information. It's good to see you all and doing well and stuff and the cups from football, but that's even better.

Right.

So that being said, just a couple of thoughts I have, in my opinion, our best case scenario would that Jacoby comes out, wins two games and then we lose four in a row. I know that sounds hypothetical, but that would kind of culminate in whether Alex van Pelt would under would feel like the offensive Taylor could be tailored more to Drake with RPOs by then, you know, knowing how our offensive line would play and the receivers have done up to that point. So like week eight, maybe it's my first dot, And then what reason would it be for the change? Do you think would it be Jacoby's back quarterback play? Alex Van Pelt ready for the playmaker at quarterback given his offense and the players around him, or there's a better Yeah, there's a better or expected chance for the wide receivers and the line to be better, or all the above.

Yeah, I mean, I mean any or all of the above could be Brad, And thanks for the call. I mean what will what will you know? Why will the change be made? The first thing is, well, Drake's ready, because that's what we're waiting for. But that goes back to our earlier conversation. How are they going to get Drake Maddy ready when you're getting set ready every game? So that's going to be a challenge to the coaches to get Drake ready because that has to be part of their job description right now, is getting that third overall pick ready to play football? And how are you going to do it now? I don't know. I don't know the iman of that.

I would say it's kind of nice at this point to have a bunch of quarterback guys like you've got TC McCartney. You know, you've got well what's his face back? I can do like you have the coaching infrastructure to kind of give Drake a tutor, you know, like you have enough guys where it's not Matt Patricia. Guys I can't coordinate the offense right now. I got to run over to the offensive line, you know, like compairing it. It's an extreme comparison that was, you know, kind of ridiculous a couple of years ago, but it just makes you feel like there's gonna be eyes on him. It's not like gonna be Jacoby's working directly with Alex van Pelt and they're getting ready for the game plan, and you know, Drake's on an island, just kind of sitting there with his thumb and his ear waiting for like, you know, how is.

He going to get reps with Jalen Polk? And you know, the starters of the offense who if he does go in, are the guys who's going to have to play with Well, I.

Think they've I mean i've seen you know, an effort with Polk at least, and Baker I mean to a lesser extent, But for those guys really seem to be working on their chemistry. And I mean Polk was always kind of with both groups. It wasn't you know, I don't think that there's that much separation between Really, to me, it's more about what the top offensive line was and how protected is he going to be? But I think Drake worked with pretty much every receiver. I mean I don't I don't remember a lot like with Thornton and Henry really maybe some of the lesser guys.

But that's going to change. If he's like regular season mode, he's working against the first defense, running the other team's place a lot. Now, you don't have to do it that way. I wouldn't personally. I would have Joe Milton do that.

I'm sure they will.

Yeah, but that's generally what the backup quarterback does. And he's working with secondary receivers.

He's not working with you know, And I think that at some point, you know, I just think they're going to look at the offense week five and it's it's just not going to be doing much and they're going to say, after that game, Okay, this is May's week starting Monday, it's all about Drake May.

More predictions from Freddy.

It's all about Drake May. And he's going to get every rep and we're just going to get May ready for this next game.

It'd be an interesting conversation to have with like Andy Reid, you know, like how.

Did how do you do? How do you do it.

Yeah, it wasn't there an injury there that prompted Mahomes to come in.

No, No, he played the last game just because they had already clinched everything, so he played.

Alex Smith played in the playoffs.

Yeah, okay, Yeah, So, like, how did Andy Reider even against US?

I think, yeah, I think that is that year or that might be a different year. Never mind.

Yeah, you know, Andy Reid, how did you do it? How did you know these other punny of teams do this? You know, maybe Brian Floor isn't the best one to ask about how to develop a.

Young quarterback and.

Terrorize him, but you know they did something similar to and I hope Paul that they do not use Drake May as the scouts, you.

Know what I'm saying, right, Yeah, generally how it's done. I hope they don't do that.

I think that's why they probably kept Joe Milton around is to not have to do that.

But it's a good question.

I still feel like I'm on the side of you go to a when he's ready, you go to Drake May's number one, but number two is when they're ready for him. Like, I I don't think that if the offense. Obviously, we have to see why the offense isn't moving the ball and why they're not being successful. But if it's the reasons that we think that it's going to be mainly the offensive line, I'm not putting him in there behind that line. I'm not doing it well.

I mean, I think in a good case scenario is there's what if it's kind of like the summer where Brissette was like missing guys downfield and you're like, you know, we got something here, but like he just isn't hitting these guys.

And he's not really see change right now.

Then it's like the perfect kind of like let's get drink, Like we just need that kick in the pants to get you know, over that hump and make some explosive plays downfield. We got a guy that can throw the ball there. Let's see what it looks like with him. I mean, that's like perfect scenario where you feel like you got something there, but you just are maybe lacking that explosiveness that you hope.

I mean, it's it's it's so hard to predict. But you mentioned, okay, there was a play to be had and Jacoby just couldn't couple of but also there's the factor of, you know, a quarterback who could extend a play and make a play that isn't there happen, Yeah, which you can't tell that by just watching. When when would that have been you know, occurred if Drake May was on the field. The only way to know that is to get him out on the field. And you know it's so it's they've got their work cut out for him, the coaches.

I mean, the clocks start as soon as the season starts. Like, he's just I think everyone that covers this team is kind of in the same boat of hes just he's got to play this year. Is there anybody really out there making an impassion case that he shouldn't play this year.

I've heard a few people say, you know, red shirt the year, but most people.

Not since camp. Yeah, most that was more of a before camp.

You know, he's kind of most people are saying he's got to get in there at some point, and no, sooner, sooner the bad.

What if it's all mop up time?

Though?

Like what if Jacoby is the starter of seventeen games? Is that worth anything?

Again?

No, not to me, it's not.

Ye, how's the other team playing you know, like if it's garbage time and he's getting garbage stats, then we're getting garbage looks.

I mean, I wouldn't say it's worth nothing.

No, it's it's good to get into a game. It's not like the other team's going to put in there.

It's just kind of my fear.

It's just kind of an extension of the preseason.

Yeah, that's what I mean. It's just it's a worry that.

If it's like if you're telling like Fred had a scenario early in the show about it's a close game and you're just not doing anything on offense, that to me, he's not mop up.

No, that's not a mop up.

Like even if he comes in the game in the fourth quarter, putting him in to win, you're putting him in to try to jump stut the offense. I don't envision that happening.

You're ting him well, I mean, how many times do you put him in last year with this offense where it was six nothing or the only one that reference by the way.

I don't think that you can do that.

That to me is but mop up is we're down thirty eight to three and it's early fourth quarter. We're gonna put Drake out there to get his feet wet, give him some experience. I don't think there's Evans right. It's not nothing, but it's it's kind of an extension of the preseason. It's not as meaningful as real.

It's it's real time. Set the table for next year, like it needs to be set.

But come out.

That's all he got was mop up and blowouts. I wouldn't feel like we learned anything. I would be he would not be fun to do the show.

I would be extreme critical if he doesn't play it breaking down that's an unacceptable Yeah, absolutely unacceptable. If he doesn't like he's shown. He almost played week one like it was a real conversation. I think.

I don't think there's any way in hell he doesn't play this year.

No me neither. Unless Jakobe were said seven and oh or something crazy.

I was going to say, what's the what's the amount of wins that it would take that you would be satisfied if Drake may didn't play at all? Literally like playoff team, they would they would have to be nine to ten wins.

Yeah, he's maybe even more.

And they would have to happen early too. You know it couldn't be like bad start and then you get to ten like you got to start out hot.

Yeah.

Is there any chance that you know, uh, they're two and four and then they put in May and it looks worse.

Sure, oh god, yes, yeah, possible that the rookie is not as prepared to play as the nine year vet.

Yeah. Yeah, So then what happens develop I'm not talking about I'm not talking about people who you know, but like with the media and fans, then what happens.

Well, people on my side of the street would say, well, this is Josh Allen his rookie season, right, and he's going to learn the lumps now, and he's gonna, you know, learn mistakes and hopefully I can't make that throw, right, Yeah, and then you learn from things like that and then it kind of goes like this starting in year two, like that would be the hope.

But it's going to take people to explain that to some people.

You know, that's what that's what we do.

He knows ball.

Sorry, he's a ball mower.

Thank you, thank you, get it right. You could also say no, either way, you do a crack, you do crack. I'm also appreciated you getting my two a jail and hurts reference.

Yeah, well the other first of all college he watches one or two college games every year and becomes an authority on the one guy who flashes like say lad maconky Okay.

But that was the one game I thought maybe you guys would have watched.

Yeah, oh, the playoff game.

Yeah, it's a national champions national championship game pulled. You know.

I tuned into the Alabama game. Usually usually that's the game that's on.

Right.

Yeah, it's probably gonna be a little bit right now, four o'clock sec on.

I'm going to try to watch more college football this year, Guys, I kind of say this every No, I'm really trying, Like I did some preliminary like he's coming out because he knows back in your heart. Someone said college football, and Barth was like, well, but but I have some guys, you know, like I just I think what will help me watch more is if I have some guys already that I'm kind of curious about. And then again and I can look at it and be like, all right, I'm gonna look at this guy, you know, if Texas is playing or where, you know, like.

Doing it all right? You just gotta watch it. And you see a guy flash and then you right and you and you feel like you invented the guy, only to find out he's projected as like the eleventh overall. Like I told you, nothing gets so.

Like maybe you were like watching the a SEC championship game in twenty twenty two and you text Alex Bart and you say, hey, I know I'm supposed to be watching Josh Downs, but like, who's this quarterback? Because he's damn good. Then like a year and a half later, he gets drafted by the Patriots, like something like that's.

Good, that's fine, I mean, but it feels like inform.

It just feels so overwhelming though, because there's so much college football and the Patriots are one team, and you know, it's so hard, like.

It is that actually early in the year, like you're wasting your Sunday.

Yeah, I mean wasting I don't work Sunday.

But to do both, like it's this is a really this is a really good weekend for college football. There's some good matchups, like right out of.

The show ahead Tim and West for Tim, Oh, I'm sorry, Timmy you there?

Oh can you hear me?

Yes?

He Tim?

Hey moving into we I this morning, and I.

Tormally disagreed with those guys that are all a bad MC phobe being the starter. But I don't feel comfortable putting a break behind this offensive line at all. And I think the biggest regret this team would out if he had some you know, severe either season ending injury or worse. Yeah, that's the worst case scenario thing.

But Tim, can I just ask your something real quick? Tim, do you really think that there's like more of a risk of like worse than a season ending injury like behind this offensive line than any other? Like, I mean, I'm gonna tell you that I think there's more of a risk of him getting sacked behind this offensive line than say Kansas City's. But I don't think there's any bigger of a risk for like a career ending injury, right, Like that's a fluke.

Yeah, you know what I mean.

Like there's more of a chance of him getting a career ending injury just running down the field and having one of those non contact injuries.

I agree, you know, I agree, planner of fresh items or something?

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You know, just like I told you guys a few days ago, there was a you know, it's a process as far as selecting who the starting quarterback is. Uh, we have decided or I have decided that Jacoby Brissett will be our starting quarterback UH this season now and saying that as an organization, we're one hundred percent behind Jacoby. There is no you know, you got a guy right here, you got a guy right there. We're one hundred percent behind Jacoby. And I had an opportunity to talk to Drake, I had an opportunity to talk to Jacoby separately and also together, and I feel like we're all on the same page from an organizational perspective, said, you know that you had the.

Decision, and that was your decision.

What ultimately led you to Jacob percent?

There are a lot of actors that led to this choice. I think, you know, the hard part is thinking in the short term and the long term at the same time as an organization that we feel like Jacobe gives us our best chance to win right now.

To start this season.

I don't I don't want to get into hypotheticals. You know, we can't go into the season saying, well, he's gonna go X amount of weeks, like, look, as long as Jacobe's going out there performing the way that we all have confidence in him doing, he'll be our quarterback this season. Thanks appreciate it.

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I just have no confidence that the Patriots are going to be able to expose any of these, you know weaknesses you see statistically like red zone like we saw last week. That was a terrible red zone defense too. It didn't really matter, no I did.

We got two red zone touchdowns?

Yes, so true.

I mean we need to have an intervention right now.

It's never good enough, josh us say, I'm tired of getting sad.

That was just as funny today as it was yesterday.

Red zone, well, you know probably you know they did.

They stopped him. I mean they were able to score twice in the red zone. I mean you don't go from like zero for seven to like five for five, like it usually doesn't work. That week, there was progress. Last week they had two red zone touchdowns. Alex telling he doesn't listen to me.

Kevin Aris broke like six tackles, got it.

On one play that was like the first play.

He's like, did we throw it into the end zone?

Really hard?

Why do you?

Oh, style points?

It's got to be a you know what you're no longer allowed to do. You're no longer allowed to make fun of me with my boys, Felgrian Mass, because you are a wanna bee Felgrin Mass. You want to find something to pick up.

No, they had to come from twenty eight three down. I mean they didn't.

They didn't throw the ball into the They got red zone scores, but they didn't throw it into.

The lead right away in the Super Bowl.

Except it's unacceptable. I demand dominance and excellence and perfecttion.

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All right. Welcome back to Patriots Unfiltered. It's Evan Paul Deuce myself Matt Morrell on the booth.

You know if that might have been a little clip that we played coming in. Yeah, that might have been the origin of sneaky negative.

Duce early in the early.

Thre like just not really accepting some positivity.

Well, what year was that, because that could have.

Been any time? It was twenty twenty three. Sounded like last.

Year, because I thought the origin was I'm still so sick of twelve and four seasons.

That sounded like the Matt Patricia year, Kevin Harris, Arizona, Matt Brady's.

I don't know last year, I think right, we just said it was twenty twenty three.

No, I mean that was what we were just talking. Yeah, but sick of the twelve and four, Yeah, sick at twelve and four.

That was when he first came in. Yeah, Like I'm just I'm really excited.

Twelve and four September, Section second, twenty twenty one.

Twenty one.

Yeah, I just wanted to see something different.

That was from twenty five.

No, when you said I'm sick of twelve and four was twenty twenty one?

All right? Right right, I'm going to take the blame for this. I derailed it.

Well, you guys are right though. I mean after those two red zone touchdowns that at the offense last year got back on track and they were really good.

Right.

I'm still telling you he was twenty twenty two.

But you could have interchanged either of those two. It didn't really matter.

All right.

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Bill, I'm just it's gone.

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Yeah, Paul.

If the cap is crap, would you prefer the NFL moves to a hard cap like the NHL. I personally think it would be a lot more transparent at the fanbase, for the fan base and media.

Yeah. No, the the NHL cap is not crap. That's a legit cap, and you know, the numbers are there and you can't exceed it, and you can't you know, play around. You know, funny that you bring it up on this this day. Pretty major cap adjustment being made as we speak by the Cleveland Browns somehow managing to maneuver money around with Deshaun Watson's cumbersome contract to create over thirty five million dollars in cap space. Tough.

Yeah, they figured it out.

I thought you're gonna talk about Swayman. Doesn't Swayman want he wants his ten mil.

No, So the argument to be made there is would you rather have it like the NHL and have it be you know, completely transparent, so you know whatever. Yeah, five year, ten million dollar contract is two million a year and that's you know, that's all you know, That's what it is. It's a cap hit is two million every year, no matter what he gets paid, that's the cap hit. And you can't exceed it. You can't say, well, we're going to pay them six million this year because we have more space, so we have more space later. It doesn't work that way. You can't do it like you can't in the NH in the NFL, which one would you rather have?

NFL?

I think I would rather have it the way the NFL is. It's way too.

Serious of a question from the Donut, I don't know what the heck's going on.

In his world.

Was like, I agree with that, and I like the fact that you can play around with the cap and it doesn't really affect how teams are structured. I the NHL cap.

Pisses me off too restrictive, because it's way too restrictive. Like the Bruins last year had to keep players in Providence because they literally couldn't afford to bring them up to the Bruins and pay the money to pay them, and so the fans in the team had to suffer and not watch the best possible product because they couldn't use the cap to you know, they didn't have that back.

And I know this isn't about the NHL. Like the only loophole that I'm aware of with the NHL is that long term. Yeah, a lot of good teams do it. When you know you're going to make the playoffs and you have a good player that's injured, you can do that. Yeah, like Tampa Bay end of a couple of years ago. As Evan just said, knowing you know, I can go through the regular season without two.

Really important put.

Him on long term I are saved that money on the cap and then I have them back for the playoffs. That's that's a big time loophole.

Yeah, it was I can't remember who it was in the Bruins, one of their centers who's like their best face off guy. They couldn't win a face off to save their life for like a month straight, and they had to keep the guy in Providence because they literally couldn't afford to put him on the NHL roster. So, I you know, it's just things like that to me, I don't like about the NHL cap, Like you should want the fans to get the best possible product on the ice. I'm not saying it should be a no cap league, but it just it should be better than that.

Mark Conchetta rights in two things all, why can't it Why can't it be mop up duty when the Patriots are up thirty eight three?

Well that was what Mike said, Yeah, Mike, Mike threw that out there earlier.

Absolutely likelihood of that happening is zero percent. No, I'm just kidding.

Once it could happen, could happen.

You never know regarding someone like Reager, and if he gets promoted from practice squad for the first few weeks as a veteran, does the practice squad promotion in week one stop him getting the full salary salary for a season guaranteed. I don't know.

He does not have his salary guaranteed because he wasn't on the he's not on the week one right roster for the whole week. But if he gets elevated, he does get like, it's not a practice squad salary. You get a bump, you get a game day check. Right, that's probably better.

It's like twelve grand a week somewhere in that area.

For well, he'll get close.

He'll get twenty three because he's a veteran, so like guys that have all.

Just peanuts now.

Also, I also it's like two hundred and fifty dollars.

I don't know the details of this, but I also would I would guess that a lot of teams when they have, you know, veterans like Reager, who's fifty year something like that, Veterans like that, I think get paid as if they're on their active roster in a lot of cases. I'm not telling you that that is the case for like Tristan Hill and Reager, but I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of teams do it that way.

Let's see. Jacob in Rochester writes in I understand many of the things that everyone on the show and in the media has said about concerns about Drake May starting this, including the offensive line and not knowing what's happening behind closed doors when they review film, But I can I can't help but have a gut reaction that I'm not really excited about watching games nearly as much with Brissette as the quarterback. Seeing May footwork, pocket presence and other warts it all was far more exciting to watch than anything I've seen from the offense since Tom Brady left.

So true, totally, so true. Like I mean, it's I mean even I said, I think last show, like even in the preseason game, when you were like, all right, all right, let's go, you know it's it's you understand, you're just kind of an holding pattern right now, waiting for for the Drake.

Yeah, it's totally fair. I mean, the touchdown that ever never was to kJ Osborne was the most exciting Patriots play on offense I've seen since Brady, and it didn't even count and it was still I mean, it's a totally fair point.

None of us are Where would you put the mac Jones to Farrell Brown catch and run touch?

Oh that's tough ball.

That's not the fact that this is. That's the list is not great.

The only real big Plague can remember is is Matt Marcus Jones walk off against the Jets like you know otherwise?

Oh and that wasn't even a play. Yeah, that was a punt return.

Punt return.

I'd say mac Jones's best touchdown pass was probably weak one Can Born against the Eagles. I would say that's probably his best touchdown pass that moment there. I was like, maybe there's a chance in his moments.

I want to hunter Henry against Cleveland, it wasn't.

Even the ones Born against Cleveland.

Was reasonably promising the first half of his rookie year. Yea, the one again that I would.

That was probably his best throat.

That Born went up the scene against Cleveland jumped up.

We remember when Fred said that he.

Had question Henry over the years.

Now, I'll take credit for that quote, right, even though he take it out of content.

As Roger Clemens would say.

Nolan from California, writes in I gotta say, for selfish reasons, I'm very disappointed with the decision. I under I think he means I understand preseason is preseason, and I don't know behind the scenes, but I was very impressed by Drake, and I was with Fred and thought he would start week one.

We were all impressed, like he's gonna play and you're gonna have plenty of Drake May in your lives soon. And we're all a little disappointed.

But just did you squeeze first?

Try to be a little patient. Yeah, I'm telling myself that just as much as I'm telling everybody else.

Oh, I know, it's gonna be hard for you though, Like, you know, start a second quarter, second half in Cleveland and you're like or Cincinnati, and yeah, I guess we're going to Kobe in the second too, you know.

But I get that mentality too, Like, yeah, me too. You know, this is just the lack of buzz because you don't get to see you you're just kind of waiting for the real And even if Brisette plays really well, like I think realistically people are looking at this season as a rebuilding season. And even if he plays well like it's not necessarily helping you for the future.

Yeah, but but maybe there's a little bit of a silver lining that, you know, if there are some guys that that starts to shine a little bit around, that's what you gotta hope. Imagine this guy, you know, imagine Thornton having this good year with with you know, Drake, or imagine Douglas having this great second year with Drake, or you know those kind of things.

If it's Polk and Douglas, you know, sort of excelling. Yeah, like Brissette and you know, let's even extrapolid a little bit. And somehow you get Wallace and Robinson on the offensive line, right, they're protecting Brissette. Well, well, not yet something to be encouraged about David.

At Bethlehem, Brissett will be under siege. The old line is porous, which is a problem for a pocket passer. May is mobile, can run and run plays that Brissett can't. That's why May should play sooner and his arm in accuracy is better. Play the better player, and it shouldn't be controversial.

It's not controversial he is the better player. But I can understand, like Girodmeo said, it it's the long term versus the short term, And to me, he was fighting his own inner demon with this, being like the competitor in him wanted to put the best player out there in Week one, but he knew that that wasn't the best for Drake May's long term development. And at the end of the day, that has to win out right now, like, it's not about Week one in Cincinnati, it's about getting him to a point where he's the quarterback for the next decade of the Patriots. And if this is going to help put in the right direction, then that's what they're doing.

I'd be really curious to well, I am curious, but I love to find out who on the coaching squad had what opinion about this whole thing.

Seems pretty clear to me that Alex vann Pelt wanted to play Jacoby the whole time.

Why do you say it was pretty clear to you just.

By his comments, Like he told us, was the last week that he spoke to us, and he said, who's the starter. He's the starter. He said, there's specific things that he does better right now than Drake May, and there's a certain way to bring along rookie quarterbacks and he's never seen NFL defenses before, and he doesn't have all the tools at his disposal to handle pressure and all these different type of things. And Jacoby is just better at him than those things. And I would say the last thing just the system, Like I don't think that they're fully ready to put Drake May under center in a regular season.

And everything he says is true, but in a team that doesn't really have playoff aspirations, whenever you put Drake May in, that's gonna be the first time he sees NFL defenses. So yeah, like I could see if this was a playoff ready team, and you know, even with Jacobe P said they should make the playoffs, that's not the case here. You know where we're starting from the ground floor. So I think it takes a little bit of you know, credence away from what AVP is saying.

But yeah, I think he's he's mostly just worried about the build up of pressure and how that can impact Well, that's.

Up to the coaches to believe that pressure.

Well pressure like in terms of like defenses getting pressure.

Oh yeah, but like that's like if let's just say that, you know, they aren't looking good week five six, we put in Drake May you don't think teams are gonna come at him with the kitchen sink.

Of course they are, and they should.

It's not gonna be any easier firm in week six and as it is in week one.

No, but maybe the offensive line is a little bit better equipped to handle settled now.

Fair enough, that's what you're hoping.

Fair enough.

You're hoping that the rest of it is progressed a little bit fair enough.

I think though, Paul is just going back to your practice squad or you know, backup reps thing. Do you think that there's value going against the Patriots defense even if you are maybe running someone else's stuff, Like, can you still get you know, are you still learning? Are you still just trying to give a look?

Yeah, you're real.

I think you can still learn. But I was just I was sort of attacking it from Fred's point of view, as at some point he needs to play and work with the players that he's going to be in the game with in practice and if he's like with the twos quote unquote, and you're giving a scout look, well to Mario Douglas and Jalen Polk and Taekwon Thornton probably can kJ Osborne are not recent. He's running someone else's offense, That's what I would be more. But he's running it with guys that aren't going to be in the game that too, He's gonna be with Matt Landers, right, like those are the guys that are gonna be running the other team's place.

I would be more worried about the terminology and like the scheme and all that kind of stuff. Like now, now you're that's a good point. Now you're learning two different languages. It's like, now you have English and Spanish in your head, and it's like, okay, well, it just he doesn't need to worry about running scout team like you just it shouldn't be his problem to worry about. He needs to worry about Drake May and the new Patriots.

Craig and Charlotte. Admittedly, I didn't want the Pats to draft Drake May. I wanted them to trade down and get more assets. But watching him through the preseason and listening to him interact with the media, I'm with Paul in that I just find him really likable and I think he's made enough progress for him to be out there I even found myself a little disappointed with this morning's news. I think I'm with most of you now that I'm okay with Jacoby if he starts out the year and helps work through the early growing pains of the team while Drake has more time. I guess the part that worries me a bit is Mayo saying Jacoby is our starter for the season, the quotes if the plan is for him to sit out the whole year. Well, then I asked, Paul, does this fit your definition of tanking? Do you think Mayo is considering the whole year? I kind of don't love this transparency Mayo keeps trying to provide. I don't think he meant that.

No, I don't think he did either, But I don't think it's tanking. Like even if it happens like he's playing the guy, he thinks like the nine year guy should have a better chance to win games. Yeah, Like that's the opposite of tanking, do you know what I mean? Right? Like, I think we can all say we see from a skill standpoint that Drake may is better than Jacoby were set. But I think probably three of us, maybe Evan wouldn't agree with this you gotta figure that Brissette is more prepared to play in a game right now than May is. Sure, I think he's more prepared to play, So I don't know how that's tanking if you played Brissette.

But could some of that been alleviated if they had gotten him a little bit more ready during the preseason.

That's a fair argument. But like I just I made this comment because I was with Andy this morning, Andy and Fitzie on their podcast.

Yeah, I saw that.

I think it's hard to imagine any rookie, especially at that position, entering the league and being fully prepared to play. Like it's just hard to It's hard for me to fathom with all that goes into that mentally and experience wise, the knowledge of the coverages and the systems and the protections and everything, that someone is really quote unquote ready to go, sight unseen, never played, he's ready to go.

I think you know you you can't or you have to admit that the situation this offense is is a disgrace. Like nothing has been done over the last few years, No since Brady left to really like things have been done, but nothing has worked to get this offense in four years to a state where you could get a rookie quarterback and insert him into a functional offense. Oh like we're starting different, I know, but we're starting from scratch. The state of the offensive line, the fact we don't even know who the best wide receiver is on this team, the fact that we really only have one tight end that we know, you know, can play at this point. That's that's the reason why Drake May isn't starting.

It's not my reason why, but I get it. I get's you.

Know what I mean?

Yeah, I would say two like even the people that you know, you don't know exactly how Michael and when you is going to fit into this scheme and what you know mean.

When you doesn't even know what position he's playing.

I mean, this is ridiculous.

That's another one that I wanted to defend my shows on Okay, my boy Mike de So gave me some information. So I heard them talking on the radio because we were talking about, you know, some very critical comments that Mike Lombardi had about the Patriots and all that. The weight game, right, so you're talking about how much weight he gained and they said that he was three sixty And then I think Felder followed that up, saying, you know, I actually heard three eighty. Right, So someone, Mike.

And win you he's not three hundred and eighty pounds.

He was anyway, he was, he was at the start of the spring anyway.

Not now.

Someone asked Michael, I know, because he's I'm not going to get into it. He was asked in the locker room. They said on the radio that you gained eighty pounds. That's not what they said on my shows. They didn't say he gained eighty pounds. They said he was One person said three sixty. Another person said three eighty. Right, he hasn't been three hundred pounds, probably since high school. Yeah, he didn't gain eighty pounds.

And they were talking about Lombardi like Bari reported eighty.

He said three sixty. He said he was three sixty, So in order to have gained eighty pounds, he was too eighty. Yeah, I mean, when was when was the last time Michael won? You weighed two hundred and eighty pounds?

Yeah?

No, I mean I listened to them, but that's.

Not what they said on the radio.

Yeah, eighty pounds would have been like four hundred pounds.

Yeah, because that's not the same arning clip, and Lombardi did not say eighty pounds. Yea, he said three eighty.

I think he said three sixty.

Weller Felger said three eighty after the clip. But I don't know. I'm not telling you what he actually weighs. I'm just telling you they didn't say he gained eighty pounds, right, they were telling you what he allegedly weighed. Yeah, that's and I don't think those two things are the same.

Jazz from Virginia. What are your thoughts on J. T. O'Sullivan's the QB School critique of May's preseason performance against the Command and he was very critical of May's pocket movement. Did you see that?

Yes, I watch all of his stuff. I try I try to watch it. After I watched, I do my review because I don't want to like, you know, then you've got to hees like, oh, like that's just JT. O.

Sullivan's very much so.

Uh.

I would say that all of his critiques are fair. They don't. Some of the things that he was critiquing don't bother me as much as they bother him.

Uh.

But he does have a tendency to drift into pressure in the pocket or just like create more problems for himself.

Than he has to.

But I'd say the one thing that I always go back to is that guys like JT. Want these quarterbacks to be mechanically perfect, right, Like they look at Tom Brady and they're like, that's how every quarterback should look. And some quarterbacks just have different styles, like they don't all look like that. And the comparison that I made when I wrote about it on Monday and after further review was like, if you had told somebody to uh mechanically be like Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes, then a quarterback coach would say absolutely not, Like that's broken, Like why would you You can't throw the ball. Patrick Mahomes throws the ball off one foot all the time he's falling away you know, you know, fade away jump shots like these types of things, Like you wouldn't tell a young quarterback in like middle school to throw the ball like Patrick Mahomes. So with Drake May, some of the stuff that he does in the pocket with his footwork might not work for JT. O Sullivan no offense, but they would work for somebody with Drake May's talent. So I agree with a lot of his critiques. I'm just not sure if it's something that I'm looking at now as like a fatal.

Flaw, like he can't play in the laitue because of this.

I wrote it during the game on the block, so it's verified. I'm not making this up now. So I said, I thought that he had a good game, I said, but in the pocket I thought his awareness I had a little bit of a problem with, because you know, you can't throw the ball if you can't follow through. And like I said, in the block, that's a good way to get your hand hurt, your arm hurt, coming down on somebody's helmet. And that happened at least twice.

And that was and that was JT's thing, which is drifting into trouble, you know, and I and I and I also wondered, you know, part of our discussion about the offensive line, and there was you know, a little bit kind of related to Drake and going, you know, moving into where guys are. The thing that bugged me a little bit. That just was the weird throws commentary, which was something that O'Sullivan said that he kind of noticed on Drake May's college film A couple throws the other night where you were kind of like, where was that one going? You know, we've seen a couple of those over the summer. I don't mean this like I'm going to say this right now, and I don't want it to be like taken, but he's like the opposite of Tom Brady in some ways. Right now the video of the Paul and I did with Josh McDaniels where everything was functionally perfect, like from foot placement to pocket movement to accuracy, and you know, and we always said Brady wasn't you know, he didn't probably have the canon that Drake May has been gifted with. So it's almost can you get Drake made? To that point? It's JT said, too, Look it's a young kid. It's he's been three weeks. He's made strides, I would say, but it's just I think it was a reminder like he's still got a ways to go, and there's a lot of nuance to the quarterback position that it makes me appreciate because we can watch Drake May and be like that was pretty cool watching Drake May out there, But then you realize all the little things that he's going to have to do to really attain that elite level, and you know, just to make it easier around himself. I think that was the biggest thing that overall was just understanding where the pressure is gonna come. Know, the like the little slide step that that you know, Baldy threw down the field to Baker was a great example earlier in the preseason of subtle pop take the step boom, it's there, you know. So I just think it's a process. I didn't get over overwhelmed with it, but it's great.

He never stopped working on it. H's and that's I mean we saw like in ten years in he's got the towel under his arm and he never stopped trying to perfect that technique.

Yeah, he's goy learned to stay in the center of the pocket. That's the biggest thing with with Drake May And when you have to move off your sp you always want to get back to center. And I think sometimes what happens with him is that he'll move off his spot and then he'll keep climbing the pocket and then he'll get into the line of scrimmage and then that's when the deflected passes and things like that happen. And the last thing is just when one step or two steps will do, don't make five, right, Like, if you just feel a little bit of pressure coming off your right hand side, that doesn't mean that you need to take five steps to the left. Maybe it's only two steps to the left, and those little things just quieting down his feet a little bit, To just make a subtle pocket movement instead of demonstrative pocket movement where now all of a sudden you're running into pressure, you're causing issues for yourself, can go a long way.

So I like his.

Presence. I think he's poisoned the pocket. I don't think he's afraid back there by any means, And I do actually think that he senses pressure pretty well. But right now it's just kind of a work in progress to get him to just kind of quiet down his feet.

No in Toronto, And this makes a lot of sense to me. How much easier was Drod Mayo's decision May by the fact that May is not as fun to chant as Zappi.

It's only one syllable, May May man. It is hard to mean Drake May Drake May.

I feel like Drake is It's gonna be it's gonna be we want Drake play may play, may play may right. I think it's gonna be we want Drake.

I think we want I like that.

We who doesn't love the Drake.

So if it's bad with Brissette while they start yelling may day.

May Day, well that means I know, well, we got to be careful with that, because that means you're about to crash.

So that's why it's going. It's a twofer.

I would I would just suggest too, like with with regard like the J. T. O. Sullivan thing, and you know, I don't you know, I don't watch a ton of those things, but Mike and Evan both had talked to me about what what he had said. Just as a fan like I would try not to be too sensitive, you know, like no one comes in and just as like flawless, like there's gonna be things that people are gonna You're gonna see things about Drake may that you're not gonna like, because you see things about everybody that you that is not perfect. So when someone points something out, I wouldn't immediately do the patriot reaction, the patriot fan reaction and immediately just start lashing out wrong no, you like defend the wall, like just sort of roll with it, like like Mic.

Didn't hear a ton of that. I think a lot of people thought it was warranty critical.

But I'm just saying that, and I would suggest to continue doing it.

It's gonna it's gonna flip because in the past we would pick that one negative thing that the person said and highlight that. Now it's gonna be we're gonna be looking for that one positive they say it. Well.

Plus, I would also say, there's a lot of people out there that think it's crazy to think about playing Drake May right now, and those are the people that are saying, yep, that's why. So he's like, so there's agendas involved. I would just say, like, you'll I don't know about agendas, but I think you'll enjoy your process a little bit more if you do it like the way Mike has been talking since the start of camp about I've seen enough. You have a guy with physical skills that you haven't had for a while.

Yeah, so just.

Enjoy and watch the development and don't just like it's got to be all or nothing. He's got to be perfect. He's got to be a perfect specimen or I don't like him.

That's the funny thing, Paul, is because JT did plenty of videos on Matt two which we watched, and never in Max videos were there what was in Drakes which is I mean, look at this throw. I mean just the talent, you know, like because there are those moments in that video too, where you know the shot that Osbourne like where he just takes a moment to praise the pure athletic talent and gifts of this player. You never really got that with the Mac video. So I find it easier to kind of cling on to those and say, you know, look, he's already ahead of the game.

The touchdown throw right, the touchdown pass to Kevin Harris, like Olosky really broke that down, And I thought Olaski overblew it a little bit, like why was he west? But I would the baby was asleep. It was unbelievable, like just as pure because if you watch that play the way he's explaining it, you're thinking, for sure, this is a pick six. And if again, I know I hate to go back and pick on you know QB two in Jacksonville, but that's a pick six. Yeah, if Mac Jones throws it.

It's still the ball is still going there.

You had to get that ball there quickly in order because that that's that was a corner who's driving on the ball, and he recognized it and didn't get there in time.

Yeah, yeah, I actually didn't like that throw.

I didn't love it either, But it just shows you the physical skills. I told you live that's not that's not one you want to make a living doing. I think was exactly what I said to you. Yeah, I just like the one that he remember, the one over in the middle. He kind of jumped when he threw it. He was like on his tiptoes, like to your point about like throwing in traffic, just kind of like he was a little toesy.

Yeah, that was one that uh, you know, JT often says that there's just too much going on, Like there's just too many moving parts. And if you're gonna be a really efficient, accurate thrower, that's consistent with accuracy, you're quiet, like you don't have all these different moving limbs and things like that, and uh, and that can tend to happen with Drake May but you know, he he's he's over there.

That guy.

He'll he'll harp on you know, the sprays, like we call him like the Taekwon, like on the slant that he's just nowhere near him and it's like, yeah, like that's not a good throw, but it's one throw out of twenty that he made. So like if that if every once in a while, you know, let's call it, two or three times a game he has one of those like complete just air mails, but then he throws a forty eight touch yard touchdown on the next play. Then I don't really care like about the air like why are we so worried about it.

The wrong way? Like one of the first the first game, right.

Yeah, when Mac would make throws where he would like drive the ball into a tight window because oh my god.

JT. O. Sullivan would be like, there you go.

Mac would be like happy for Mac that Mac made an actual NFL throw. And now at Drake May He's like, well he he missed the wide open slamt by ten feet, Like what are we doing?

Uh? Joel and Ottawa, I'm mainly worried this. I'm mainly worried this season will be like twenty twenty where the season was lost quite early. But the team refused to play Stidham enrolled with Newton. We have nothing to lose. If we are zero to four or one and five, fans will get so restless in the media will be all over Mayo if he continues to send out a set with no chance to win. I'm I'm all for the first overall pick next year, but I want to see a glimpse of may.

I kind of just disagree with the notion that there's nothing to lose.

If he's not ready, you lose a lot.

There's everything to lose, Like if he's not ready to exactly, if he's not ready to play and you break him by playing him too early, well then then we're screwed. Like then you're starting from scratch again. Like the one thing that you can say is that they've gotten him to a decent place at this point, and the worst thing that could happen is regression. Like if he goes back to with his you know, we're talking all this footwork stuff, but it's so much better already than it was at North Carolina. And if he goes back to the way it was at North Carolina and he regresses, then then you might not have a quarterback like, then you're starting all over again.

Okay, but I'm just saying, like, there's plenty to lose if you don't think he's ready, right right, you know, and I'm not telling you he is or he is, and I'm telling you they think he's not. So if they continue to think that and all of a sudden, you want why are you shugging?

No?

He shivered.

Plus that was a little bit seymore.

Again, if they're being honest, do they think he's not ready or the team's ready for him?

Like I don't really understand the whole team not ready for anything about it? If I know what, I just don't.

If you have no idea how good or bad the offense is, like.

I don't have any idea how good about the offense is with Jacoby Brissett either.

Well, but at least you're not putting in Drake May And.

Yeah, I don't get that. I don't, you know. I'm just I get that they don't think he's ready, and I'm willing to be patient. But if they don't think he's ready, and then you know, you don't just say well he's ready. Now we're one in five, right, and now he's not ready? Still right, Like that's counterproduct. How are you going I can't do damn.

Well, that's what we talked about at the outset. How are you going to get him ready? That's the question.

Yeah. I would love to train coaches get paid for Andy.

Reid and all these other coaches that have done this with the rookie quarterbacks and not necessarily fully red shirted them. But like Elliot Wolf, I'm sure has resources Jackson to start right away.

He started during his rookie year, his rookie.

Year, and so that would be like, what made you think he was ready?

Yeah, they ran they ran a gimmick offense.

Yeah that's true. But you know, like in Green Bay, you know they did this twice. So Elliott Wolf like, go call your people in Green Bay and say, what did you do with Aaron Rodgers for the entire season when he was sitting behind Brett Farv You know.

Like those are the people you got asked.

I wanted you to fire back on Felger with that one because the Jordan Love one. Oh, because they had a Hall of Fame quarterback. It's the same, It's not the same situation.

Yeah, I thought about And the other thing that I keep talking about with Jordan Love that no one else brings up is like, so this is great now the way they did it, so you think it was ideal to let him play one season and have to give him that contract. That's what you were looking to do off of one season, which really, let's when you really break it down, was kind of a half a season because he wasn't the same guy the whole year.

He threw in the Atlanta thing with Farv two, he's like Farve status for sure, Atlanta.

That has nothing to do with anything like nineteen ninety two and he was the second round picker.

Wasn't a guy that was clean, Like people didn't even know who Brett Farv was.

The whole point of that book by Ron Wolf, The Packer Way, was that when he got that job, he had had his eye on Brett Faarr forever and he went and got him. And that was the whole plan. And this whole thing about oh the Packer Way and sitting guys, it's just yeah, you had a Hall of Fame court. It doesn't It just doesn't make sense. And people just saying it great to the same thing.

And that's what Elliott wol like, Oh that was our way it worked.

You know.

It was also with Jordan Love to just like comparing them as prospects, Jordan Love was in a turnover machine in college, and I did not like I think his last year in college. I think I want to say he threw like twenty picks or something like that, like Drake May had didn't throw twenty picks over two years at North Carolina. So with Jordan Love, it was less like everybody makes it out to be, like he was this toolsy guy that was raw and it was decision making like Drake May doesn't have a decision making problem. He's got footwork issues and some mechanical things that they need to tweak with, but he makes usually pretty solid decisions. Like he doesn't throw a ton of interceptions. Yeah, Jordan Love, if he had played in the NFL year one, would have thrown thirty interceptions Like that's not gonna happen.

Gone, Yeah, Chris with a tian I'm fine with Jakobe starting for the year. I expect May to see time at some point, hopefully sooner rather than later. The more REPSI gets, the better I look at this year as nothing more than a building block for him. And the team. It's unbelievable to me that the team is going into yet another season without at least an average left tackle. Incredible really, so yep, it is it is.

Yeah. I have a bigger rant on this with the whole like, to me, the person to blame for this with Drake May as Elliott Wolf.

Like Elliot Wolf didn't do a good.

Enough job with this offensive line in the off season. And if they had done a better job putting together an offensive line with the resources that they had in the off season, then I really believe that Drake May would be playing against Cincinnati, And that to me is where it is right now. I actually think their receivers are a little bit better this year than they have been. I mean, like Juju and DeVante Parker last year. We're horrible for this team. At least you have some young guys now that you feel a little bit optimistic about. I have some upside, But to me, this is this really comes down to the fact that he never really stood a chance to play because they were always going to come to this conclusion.

Well, especially if they were going to do you know, like Fred's theory of like, well, we don't know what it's supposed to look like, but you don't know what it's supposed to look like because you don't have any players that you can you know, have any track record, right, and that makes it even worse. Like, I mean, I look at Washington and they have a new offensive coordinator in Cliff Kingsbury. I don't know what that offense is supposed to look like. But Jayden Daniels is starting quarterback. They have a terrible offensive line. It's ranked I think twenty eighth in those same rankings that ranked the Patriots last he's playing.

Yeah, yeah, I looked up their depth chart today because that we were trying to remember their receivers.

Terry McLaurin.

Literally the only other good player on that offense besides as Jayden Daniels is Terry McLaurin. Like, that offense is just as bad as the one here right now.

I admittedly they do have a number one guy, yeah, but I mean that's it.

Yeah, rookie left tackle and they took in the third round.

Yeah, and they traded Jehan Dotson, who is an okay number two receiver. They have Brian Robbinson the running back, who's like a decent running back but Remandery is a decent running back, So like they really it's not very all that different between those two teams, Jay and Minnesota.

After may said I'm gonna this is gonna be a problem all season.

Between May and Mayo, you have issues.

Yeah, it's gonna be a problem anyway.

He has a little thing goes around.

Yeah, after Mayo said what's best for the team today may not be what's best for the team later in the season, I knew it was gonna be Jacoby. How much do you think that a VP influenced the decision? Since Jacoby already has played in his scheme, I just don't know how make and get better in the offense without playing in it. Sounds like may already knows more about reading a defense than mac ten, So that's a positive for me. But going back to the question, do you think that had a lot of weight the fact that Van Pel could say, at least you know, Jacoby knows the offense, and that goes to his comment about he has the tools or he knows how to use the tools to get into out of trouble, And you know how much of that weigh in the decision?

I could probably I think That's probably the only thing that you could say that Jacoby has over Drake May at this point is is just that I mean, like they in the game on Sunday Night and the past, Antonio Gibson, it's a hot read, like you know, blitzer unblocked, free runner. Does Drake May know that that blitz is coming? Like does he does he id that? And does he get the ball out to the hot and like it turned out to be a more successful play because Washington busted the coverage. So I'm not trying to like make too big of a deal of it, but the question is does he know that that? Would like would Drake May react in the same way or would he be a deer in the headlights and not nowhere to go at the ball?

Good good play to sort of bring up too, because I think a lot of people would be like, let's says there's a blitz and ends up sacking Jacoby Brissett, And people would say like, oh, well, that's a play that may might have been able to get out of the pocket to make a play, but they're not going to count plays like this that Perssett understands and knows what's coming. And there is no chance for a sack because he knew where it was coming from and he got rid of the ball that maybe may wouldn't have understood, right, Like that's a good example. Yeah, you know, both sides of the equations.

I just think there's also just value that Jacoby Brissett has, you know, started against this defense in twenty twenty two. I mean he's played against this team, you know, like he knows what they do. I mean it's you know, so it's that that to me is as much as understanding the schemes and all that, it's it's just experienced too. You know, this guy has won games in the league, and you know you have to trust him a little bit.

I think, yeah, I thought that that played that Gibson and the game like that's like teach tape of how to handle pressure.

Like that's a really good play.

Like you put that up on the board and you're the young quarterbacks and you're like, see, like we have three guys over here. If he comes, then then the quarterback's hot. If he doesn't come, then you should be protected and you should have it blocked as soon as that linebacker comes to Kobe's a Like, I know, I'm hot, and like that instantaneous type of stuff might not happen with a young quarterback like that was. I understand that it's a swing pass into the flat and it doesn't sound like it's it's much, but that those types of things are not easy to do.

What about the one where where he was where May was hot on Thornton and went to Thornton.

Yeah, I'm not one hundred percent sure he knew he was hot. Yeah, so that that that one was different like to me or in the game against the Eagles, it was it was host juke. It's the same concept in the game against the Eagles where he tucked it and ran because he didn't throw the off coverage hitch and this one, I felt like he got off coverage, he knew that he had to hitch there, and he was like, well, last week, I screwed this up, so this week I'm going to do it right. And it just coincidentally kind of worked out that they blitzed. But maybe he did and I'll give him that.

Yeah, you know, when you're looking at the trunk of the stem, you gotta worry about the branches.

Did you stack them?

Yeah? Yeah?

Ran leak.

Yeah, I haven't seen that about your favorite beasting?

Is that?

What are you getting into? That?

Is that? No? No, I did get I stepped on another hornets.

Nest another Saturday. This has happened multiple times.

Oh yeah, yeah, I got my Freddy.

I worry about you arms.

He's just stomping around legs.

I worry about So you got like multiple stinks, like twenty beastings. I got attacked.

Yeah, we need like we need you. The season started.

Luckily. I'm not allergic to it, but I am swollen and itchy.

So what they get just on the armor.

Arm and legs?

Yeah, Freddy, can you not step on hornets nest?

It's a jungle out there. Everything out there wants to kill you. You know. It's terrible.

Mosquitos they get the Triple League.

There's a lot of b's around.

Here in Plymouth. They've vaccinated the whole outdoors.

Because of that's the place where you can't go outside the outside.

Because because this new mosquito willness they've got going on cephalitis. Rodrigos writes in the question is mainly for Evan, but hope everyone shines in. Can we really for certain say that we can't play may behind this offensive line when we haven't even seen the starting line yet, or is what we saw in preseason games likely going to be the starting line.

Well, it is probably going to be most of the starting line. You can play may behind the starting line. But I'm you know, I think we're all kind of an agreement. I would just rather see what it looks like for a couple of weeks in the regular season, and it looks like it did in the Eagles joint practice, I don't want to play him in that situation. If it looks a little bit better than that, then you start to feel a little bit better about him going out there. And you know, to the point we were just making, if he advances in terms of how to handle pre snap looks and things like that to anticipate pressure a little bit better, then that would make me feel a little bit better. But the whole point of sitting him right now, to me is to see what it looks like like. You don't know what it's gonna look like. So instead of throwing him into the unknown, at least if you throw him into a situation where you are like, we know this might not be great, at least you know ahead of time.

What was The line out there today was Chukes, Ukes Leverage, Andrews Robinson on one.

Yeah, it's the latest, uh Scott and Virginia. Since we all know sitting May has to do with the O line. What checklist does the O line need to meet for everyone to feel comfortable starting May? If blocking is fine but penalties are constant, I'd still be okay starting putting May in.

I'm okay putting May in whenever, Like that's not an impediment to me. I guess I'm I.

I think it's just going to be hard to say, Okay, they're okay now like that. It's just hard to say they you know, you just have. It's a feel and a trust in you.

Know, so if you're waiting for that, you might never be able to put them in right like you might feel good put like that. That's sort of what PFF graded them out as the top line.

All right, we're we're good, we can put them in there.

That's sort of where I have come with it from sneaky snarky. I like it. I like it, but Paul, because like I'm like in the middle, because you can't wait forever, Like if you're gonna sit here and wait for Will Campbell to come down and save your offensive line. But what if Will Campbell ends up being a bus like then I don't.

I don't thinking what the kids are go out there and rerunning for his life either, And I understand that. I just I don't necessarily think that's gonna happen. And I don't want to sound like Mike and it'll be fine. I'm not saying that. I think there are issues with the offensive line. I think, and I've said this many times, there's some value in playing behind you know, less than optimal offensive line. There's there's some value to be gained by that, and you know, to do all the stuff that Evan's talking about and recognizing where pressure is going to come from. I don't think it's just going to be five guys just losing their one on one battle every play and not what's going to happen, right, do you know what I mean? Yeah? Now it doesn't happen to any offense.

And lostep with Michael Holly.

No, he thinks it's good. I don't.

He just thinks.

I think there's pressure that you're going to have deal with it, learn learn from it, understand how to play well. You know, this guy's coming off the backside, and that guy is going to be coming free. Like, I think there's a value to that to learn that. You know, you can watch it on film and say, oh, this guy came here, this guy be how do you handle it?

Right?

You know, under fire? How do you how do you deal with that?

Learn more from your failures than you do usee.

That's my feeling. I'm not out there under any illusion that all of a sudden he's gonna you know, if he played seventeen games, you know, Drake May's going to go out there and get sackific ten times for the whole season. I don't think that's going to happen. Iron sharp iron, he's going to get sacked more than Brissett would.

Right.

I've heard that iron though not aluminum iron ion, right, And he taught me that right.

For what it's worth, he did also play behind a terrible offensive line in North Carolina, and.

Like I understand say people said that led to him is bad.

I said, for what it's worth, because it's college and it's the ACC and it's not it's not NFL football. But he played behind a bad offensive line for all of last year. At North Carolina, Like talking to his coaches down there, they said that was probably the biggest reason why. You know, the year before they go to the a SEC Championship game, he's a SC Player of the Year, all these accolades, all these awards, and then last year they took a huge step back, and they said a big reason probably was the offensive line.

Uh Reno in Tennessee. I know I was expecting Jacoby to start the season, but I'm still pretty mad. I don't think they ever intended on having him compete to start the season, which begs the question why lead us on like they did? Drag this out for nothing. I agree with Evan in a sense, I don't care to watch Jakobe play at all. How is how are they going to get May ready to start sitting on the bench. What's the difference than what he was doing in preseason watching film and taking second team reps. I understand the argument the team isn't ready for him, but I'm still bummed we have to wait.

I've got a little bit of a take development on this one, and it's maybe it's not even a take, but I just I think that this is a little bit of Mayo's inexperience and wanting to take from Bill competition, and I think that that's something that you should always preach on, you know, for your team, we want to foster competition. But it's also a unique situation. So one one Handy's saying competition, it's a competition, but what you're kind of seeing is that it's not a competition. So it's I just I think it's a little bit of Mayo's inexperience and not knowing how exactly to I just think it's coach paint the picture.

Don't you want to try to create a culture of competition and draining.

Yeah, everybody should be competing.

I think it was taken super literally about that position for obvious reasons. I don't think anybody took it wrong, not making fun of anybody, but I never really thought it was a competition. I said that the day that we did our first first day, I didn't think there was any chance.

All success is earned, but.

It's rented, not owned.

That was a good one. I liked that one.

You remember that one.

I liked that Christians in Virginia on the a State House Christian what's up, hey, guys, I.

Know Paul just said, don't complain or don't be so sensitive. But having been at the Commander's game, I gotta say I felt a little bit frustrated, and I was wondering your take on the athletes interactions with the fans. You know, I understand it's probably frustrating for them, feeling like they're gonna do with a bunch of drug people yelling at them, But at the same time, like little Timmy's sitting over here year with this jersey waiting to get signed, and the only person I saw I was sitting in the front two rows. The only player that I saw interact with any fans, just from my point of view, was Bailey's happy, And it was kind of like, I'm not expecting anyone to act like they're running for president, but I just wanted to get you guys' opinion on that, especially when the date of our team and the play isn't really the best. You know, you kind of hope that there's a few other factors that you can maybe lean on a little bit to entertain the people that are coming out and sport the team.

All right, thanks, thanks Christian. I mean, this is an age old fan complaint when guys don't sign.

You know, during the game. Yeah, so I think it was after, but I just I was just game day. I would just say that.

We have nothing to do with that, right, Like we get these questions in the mail bag all the time too, of like people getting mad at like not mad at us necessarily, but like thinking that we have any sort of poll to get any of this done, Like this is not yea, I'm sorry, but like we have no And what.

I was mentioning not being sensitive about, was if the people are critiquing the play of Drake, may don't necessarily like do what we normally do and say, Okay, he's again, he's again. You don't cross him off the list. He's a hater. No, Like, you know, listen to it and just determine for yourself. Oh that's actually a good point. Oh well, I don't. I don't agree with that point. There's plenty of like the Yulowski's of the world that I take some of the things and I say, oh, well that that made a lot of sense. I take some others and I'm like, I don't really see it that way, but I don't hate the guy for life. That's what I was saying, try not to be so sensitive.

About Yeah, Bill and Vista California. What's up, Billy? Yeahs?

First time, long time. Last night I dreamt that Drake got the nods at the start position. Woke up come at me, surprised when I found out D Kobe was the starter. I'm not really mad, more or less disappointed.

Not even mad. Yeah, sounds like my fast just disappointed.

What happened Bill?

You there?

I mean, speaking of matter disappointment. Do you guys take anything away from Gard's pressor this morning, from his body language and a little protein but beeing like, I don't know, Jacobi, wasn't really the way you wanted to go?

Yeah, did I take it?

I didn't take anything away from today Earlier I.

Thought it was an inefficient way to handle the whole situation. But I do wonder, like what forces are behind telling drive you gotta do it this way, You got to do it that way, You gotta do it this way. You got to do a press release, you got to do a press conference. You can't do you can't tweet it out, you can't. I just wonder like, at some point, and I'm talking to you, draw this is do what you want to do. You're the head coach. Don't let anyone tell you how to do things and what to do. You've got instincts. You've been in the league a long time as a pro, You've seen press conferences, You've seen other coaches do what you want to do.

Don't you know how you're telling them what to do.

Yeah, I'm telling him to do. I'm telling him how to do it his way. Whatever you think is right, that's what you should do. Don't don't worry about all this other garbage.

Usually Fred only goes to camera to the fans when they need a kick the fourth wall.

I love when he breaks the fourth He made a fantastic I think there's way too many voices in his head right now. Yeah, just my opinion, but I think that he is leaning on a VP with the offensive stuff and McAdoo because it's not really his area expertise. So he's got to take their input. He's got input from Elliott, He's got input from all directions. And it's like the end of the day, you're the head coach of the football team, like you make a decision. Yeah, And even today he said, We've I've decided.

Yeah, and I do believe this was his decision.

I don't doubt that, but I think Evan's got a good point. I clocked that too. We're being conscious of the wieze and the eyes and who's making the dis.

Right, because it's one thing to say we're collaborative, but the buck has to stop. And when it comes to the ross and who you know that who's actually playing in the game, who's starting at quarterback, That's got to be him. It can't be coming from upstairs.

We need more mic drops from Gerard. That's it. That's it.

Now goes back to another country heard from now. I got to listen to Kurse.

Let's see. Cody writes in hearing Paul mentioned on Tuesday, saying something along the lines of he's not so sure they will play may as early as everyone thinks. I thought Paul was trolling. After hearing Mayo today, I think Paul is onto something. If Jacoby is playing game manager, no turnover ball, seems like he will maybe have a lengthy leash.

I don't think that has anything to do with it. I think it's all about may Yeah, but it's the thing that's going to make it really difficult for us who's to assess, like, yeah, we get ready ines you're talking about even if you were watched every rep of every practice. Who is to assess the mental acuity? Like, how do you know if he made the right read every time or called the play properly in the huddle? For all you know, every guy's like every play is getting botched as they're calling it, and then someone's got to correct David Andrews, No, no, actually, Drake, it's this like who knows. There's no way we have of knowing that.

Yeah. He did say something funny after the game on Sunday night that he tends to talk too fast, and he said, I even do it with you guys in front of the media. And he said that sometimes I'll get into the huddle and then guys will be like Drake, like, yeah, he does talk fast, you know, take a breath. So I'm not saying that it's that big you.

Think when he calls the play, he starts.

With the year. Yeah, he's listening.

He looks that should be his cadence. He like stares holes eyes and say.

You love it.

Kendall's in North Carolina hate Kendall. Hey, kend Hey, you just called what's up Kendle there?

You uh real quick?

This one.

Just to early look on the Bengals dfense or whatnot. How do you like a wide receiver matchups? Appreciate it?

Okay, we have wide receiver matchups against their secondary.

Next week is when we get into Bengals week. Just start breaking down their roster against Star and what the matchups might be and all that. So I'm not prepared.

Speaking for myself, let me make some indecision there with Chase.

Let me just say that he didn't show up to practices.

He was at practice, but didn't practice practice.

Yeah, I would just say this. I think I said on Tuesday show, going back a little bit, looking at Cleveland's matchup, which is you know how alex Vin Pelton those guys viewed Cincinnati, who they played twice every year. I said, they ran the ball forty times in two of the last three games. Take it for what it's worth. I mean to me, that sounds like you know, we're we're gonna want to run Romandre Gibson play action a lot of that.

Yep.

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This is what he said. He wanted to do what he wants to do. Well, what else is going He had to come out eight thirty.

You know?

So we do three shows next week, he used, next week.

Yes, we're back to our in season schedule next week. So Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday next week.

Can't wait.

People should be excited about that.

You gotta hurry Thursday next week that.

We need to do.

We have any surprises, not that I'm aware of, unless you want to share.

No, nothing, Drake May is gonna start Actually, yes.

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