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To answer the questions you have, we've got Scott Ray, who is a professor of philosophy and Christian ethics at Bla University. Scott, it is so great to have you here with us today. Thank you, Brian. Always good to be with you folks. Yeah, it's a lot of fun when you come in. And, uh, just barely getting here is Bobby Conway. He's an apologetics expert, uh,

To answer the questions you have, we've got Scott Ray, who is a professor of philosophy and Christian ethics at Bla University. Scott, it is so great to have you here with us today. Thank you, Brian. Always good to be with you folks. Yeah, it's a lot of fun when you come in. And, uh, just barely getting here is Bobby Conway. He's an apologetics expert, uh,

And he is the pastor of Image Church in Charlotte, North Carolina, and I say that he just got here because it was like 8 seconds before the program started, and then we finally saw him on video. I don't know, Bobby, did you get sick in the bathroom again? Is that what happened? I mean, we don't want to have that conversation again like we did yesterday, but,

And he is the pastor of Image Church in Charlotte, North Carolina, and I say that he just got here because it was like 8 seconds before the program started, and then we finally saw him on video. I don't know, Bobby, did you get sick in the bathroom again? Is that what happened? I mean, we don't want to have that conversation again like we did yesterday, but,

yeah, no, I've, uh, I'm just in a VRBO here and I have been in the condo for quite a while, so ready to roll.

yeah, no, I've, uh, I'm just in a VRBO here and I have been in the condo for quite a while, so ready to roll.

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Uh, using messenger, you can send your question and, plus, of course, you can always mail a letter, send us a fax, singing telegram, we haven't had that ever, but you never know. This is the first time for everything. Amy sent in a few questions from Instagram, and here they are.

Uh, using messenger, you can send your question and, plus, of course, you can always mail a letter, send us a fax, singing telegram, we haven't had that ever, but you never know. This is the first time for everything. Amy sent in a few questions from Instagram, and here they are.

If Jesus was God's Son, but we are also His sons and daughters, does that mean we are Jesus's sisters and brothers? Question two. What do you do when you feel so distant from God? I pray twice a day, but yet I feel like I'm not connecting, and I often feel like my heart is broken.

If Jesus was God's Son, but we are also His sons and daughters, does that mean we are Jesus's sisters and brothers? Question two. What do you do when you feel so distant from God? I pray twice a day, but yet I feel like I'm not connecting, and I often feel like my heart is broken.

And question 3, if I get super into Christianity and pick up my cross and follow Jesus, does that mean?

And question 3, if I get super into Christianity and pick up my cross and follow Jesus, does that mean?

I have to lose who I am as an individual, like my funniness, my quirkiness, my character. Like, do I have to be serious and just have Jesus on my mind all the time? What do you guys say to Amy? Well, Bobby, I'll take the 3rd 1 of those 3 if that's OK with you. Uh, and, uh, you definitely do not have to lose who you are. Uh, I think coming to faith enhances who you are, doesn't detract from it.

I have to lose who I am as an individual, like my funniness, my quirkiness, my character. Like, do I have to be serious and just have Jesus on my mind all the time? What do you guys say to Amy? Well, Bobby, I'll take the 3rd 1 of those 3 if that's OK with you. Uh, and, uh, you definitely do not have to lose who you are. Uh, I think coming to faith enhances who you are, doesn't detract from it.

Uh, although you may have to you may have to end up losing some bad habits and bad dispositions that you have to put off by virtue of coming to faith, but I think maybe, uh, folks, this listener has maybe not quite understood what it means to deny yourself. When Jesus said deny yourself, take up your cross and follow Him. To deny yourself does not mean that you strive to give up who you are, give up your identity, give up the things that sort of make you who you are.

Uh, although you may have to you may have to end up losing some bad habits and bad dispositions that you have to put off by virtue of coming to faith, but I think maybe, uh, folks, this listener has maybe not quite understood what it means to deny yourself. When Jesus said deny yourself, take up your cross and follow Him. To deny yourself does not mean that you strive to give up who you are, give up your identity, give up the things that sort of make you who you are.

What it means is that you have to give up ultimate ownership of yourself, that the ownership now belongs to God, and it's just sort of the same thing that Paul says at the end of 1 Corinthians 6, where he says, you are not your own. You've been bought with a price. Therefore glorify God with your body. And I think the, the, the emphasis, I think from Jesus not only glorify God with your body, but glorify God with your, your heart, soul, mind and strength as well.

What it means is that you have to give up ultimate ownership of yourself, that the ownership now belongs to God, and it's just sort of the same thing that Paul says at the end of 1 Corinthians 6, where he says, you are not your own. You've been bought with a price. Therefore glorify God with your body. And I think the, the, the emphasis, I think from Jesus not only glorify God with your body, but glorify God with your, your heart, soul, mind and strength as well.

So I think I, I would, I would think you, I would love to see your, your quirkiness. Don't for sure don't lose your sense of humor. You may have to, you may have to, uh, have a few different objects of your sense of humor if it's, uh, you know, if you tend to traffic in things that are a little bit more on the vulgar side, you may have, you may have to dispense with those things, but I don't think you, you don't have to fundamentally change your identity.

So I think I, I would, I would think you, I would love to see your, your quirkiness. Don't for sure don't lose your sense of humor. You may have to, you may have to, uh, have a few different objects of your sense of humor if it's, uh, you know, if you tend to traffic in things that are a little bit more on the vulgar side, you may have, you may have to dispense with those things, but I don't think you, you don't have to fundamentally change your identity.

And if you're quirky, maybe you should consider consider a job in radio. I had a general manager, Lance Emma, who used to say, radio is just a bunch of quirky people working together. It is so true. Uh, Bobby, any follow up or do you want to go to the other two questions?

And if you're quirky, maybe you should consider consider a job in radio. I had a general manager, Lance Emma, who used to say, radio is just a bunch of quirky people working together. It is so true. Uh, Bobby, any follow up or do you want to go to the other two questions?

Well, that was a great answer. And yes, uh, my wife would say that I'm very quirky, you know, that artistic, quirky personality. I, I have that. Uh, ADD kind of produces, uh, that ilk. Uh, and I would just add that, yeah, you don't, um, lose your identity, uh, rather, you discover your true identity and you want your identity to be a sanctified identity, and that's what's really important. As it relates to, um, being

Well, that was a great answer. And yes, uh, my wife would say that I'm very quirky, you know, that artistic, quirky personality. I, I have that. Uh, ADD kind of produces, uh, that ilk. Uh, and I would just add that, yeah, you don't, um, lose your identity, uh, rather, you discover your true identity and you want your identity to be a sanctified identity, and that's what's really important. As it relates to, um, being

Uh, God's Son, and therefore, we're all God's children, so therefore is Jesus our brother. Well, he is our kinsman Redeemer. The scriptures talk about that. And so there's a lot of titles that are given to Jesus, right? He's our friend, he's a good shepherd. He's the light of the world, he's the door, so on and so forth. Uh, in a sense, you know, he is our spiritual brother that he entered into the human race with the incarnation.

Uh, God's Son, and therefore, we're all God's children, so therefore is Jesus our brother. Well, he is our kinsman Redeemer. The scriptures talk about that. And so there's a lot of titles that are given to Jesus, right? He's our friend, he's a good shepherd. He's the light of the world, he's the door, so on and so forth. Uh, in a sense, you know, he is our spiritual brother that he entered into the human race with the incarnation.

But he's distinct from us in the fact that he's the eternal begotten Son of God. And when it talks about him being God's son, uh, that doesn't mean that Jesus, uh, you know, was basically

But he's distinct from us in the fact that he's the eternal begotten Son of God. And when it talks about him being God's son, uh, that doesn't mean that Jesus, uh, you know, was basically

Somebody who came into existence in time where the Father conceived him. He's the eternal Son of God. Uh, he took on flesh, and son kind of sets him apart with the title in this way to show role distinction within the Godhead. So, the Father sends the Son, and the Son sends the Spirit, and the Son submits the Father, yet there's one God in essence, and yet 3 in persons.

Somebody who came into existence in time where the Father conceived him. He's the eternal Son of God. Uh, he took on flesh, and son kind of sets him apart with the title in this way to show role distinction within the Godhead. So, the Father sends the Son, and the Son sends the Spirit, and the Son submits the Father, yet there's one God in essence, and yet 3 in persons.

And so I'll take a little break right there because I forgot the second question.

And so I'll take a little break right there because I forgot the second question.

That's all right. I, I can speak to that second one, when it's it's talking about when you don't feel close to God, you pray regularly, but you don't just don't seem to be breaking through, uh, and it may be that, uh.

That's all right. I, I can speak to that second one, when it's it's talking about when you don't feel close to God, you pray regularly, but you don't just don't seem to be breaking through, uh, and it may be that, uh.

You know this is just something we need to take by faith that God hears us and he listens and he answers our prayers whether whether we sense any kind of giant breakthrough or not and I'd ask this listener, what are you expecting out of your time in prayer because most of the time when we connect with God it's not gonna be a Damascus road experience it's gonna be fair you know God speaks to us mostly in the dailiness of life.

You know this is just something we need to take by faith that God hears us and he listens and he answers our prayers whether whether we sense any kind of giant breakthrough or not and I'd ask this listener, what are you expecting out of your time in prayer because most of the time when we connect with God it's not gonna be a Damascus road experience it's gonna be fair you know God speaks to us mostly in the dailiness of life.

And that's I think some of the way some of the ways that are actually most profound where he breaks through the just a daily routine and I think, and I think when it doesn't feel like it's anything particularly earth shattering, we need to take it by faith that we're communicating with the God of the universe and you know, his, his son and the Holy Spirit have made a way for us to connect with him on a regular basis whenever we want to, we can boldly approach the throne of grace, uh.

And that's I think some of the way some of the ways that are actually most profound where he breaks through the just a daily routine and I think, and I think when it doesn't feel like it's anything particularly earth shattering, we need to take it by faith that we're communicating with the God of the universe and you know, his, his son and the Holy Spirit have made a way for us to connect with him on a regular basis whenever we want to, we can boldly approach the throne of grace, uh.

And so I, I, I would say I wouldn't be losing a lot of sleep over the idea of not feeling particularly close to God because our feelings are not the most reliable part of our Constitution. That's true. Uh, so I, you know, I would, you know, we could, I think we can trust our intuitions about a lot of things, but I think our feelings are, are somewhat different, uh, and I think we just need to be careful of putting too much stock in how we feel about that.

And so I, I, I would say I wouldn't be losing a lot of sleep over the idea of not feeling particularly close to God because our feelings are not the most reliable part of our Constitution. That's true. Uh, so I, you know, I would, you know, we could, I think we can trust our intuitions about a lot of things, but I think our feelings are, are somewhat different, uh, and I think we just need to be careful of putting too much stock in how we feel about that.

Uh, especially if it, if it's counter to what we know to be true from the teaching of scripture, yeah, Bobby Conway.

Uh, especially if it, if it's counter to what we know to be true from the teaching of scripture, yeah, Bobby Conway.

Yeah, well said, Scott. Um, I would say a few things. Uh, first off, you have God's scriptures, and so we can hear from him, uh, on the daily. So, for example, if I'm reading in Exodus 20 on the 10 Commandments and I come across do not murder, well, I just heard a word from God as I read it. I'm not the murderer. So, uh, there is a sense where we have access to it, and that's why I want to read it. I think what you're probably are.

Yeah, well said, Scott. Um, I would say a few things. Uh, first off, you have God's scriptures, and so we can hear from him, uh, on the daily. So, for example, if I'm reading in Exodus 20 on the 10 Commandments and I come across do not murder, well, I just heard a word from God as I read it. I'm not the murderer. So, uh, there is a sense where we have access to it, and that's why I want to read it. I think what you're probably are.

Referring to is kind of the situational circumstantial, uh, sense of God's leading. And I have found the more acclimated we are with understanding God's written word, the more perceptive we are and understanding God and circumstances and what he's up to.

Referring to is kind of the situational circumstantial, uh, sense of God's leading. And I have found the more acclimated we are with understanding God's written word, the more perceptive we are and understanding God and circumstances and what he's up to.

And we don't always have to even feel it. Like God can give you a word, um, that you sense him leading and it might not even come with a spiritual buzz. Uh, the spiritual buzz is nice, but I remember when I was younger, I was spending time preparing for ministry, and I was feeling like my prayers were hitting a ceiling, and I still do, uh, often.

And we don't always have to even feel it. Like God can give you a word, um, that you sense him leading and it might not even come with a spiritual buzz. Uh, the spiritual buzz is nice, but I remember when I was younger, I was spending time preparing for ministry, and I was feeling like my prayers were hitting a ceiling, and I still do, uh, often.

And in this moment, I sensed God giving me comfort, and I felt like the word, even though the feeling wasn't there of encouragement, was, son, anybody can seek me when they feel my presence. I'm very encouraged when you continue to pursue me, even when you don't feel me because you're seeking me by faith.

And in this moment, I sensed God giving me comfort, and I felt like the word, even though the feeling wasn't there of encouragement, was, son, anybody can seek me when they feel my presence. I'm very encouraged when you continue to pursue me, even when you don't feel me because you're seeking me by faith.

And I trust. But Jesus says, I am with you always to the end of the age. So do I believe that? And this is the fact. Obviously, Jesus is with us even when we don't feel it, and we have to believe that and trust that and be faithful to the written word when we don't understand how to follow him in circumstances. The divine hiddenness piece too is a tricky thing, and I think the problem of suffering and evil and the problem of divine hiddenness are the two greatest objections that atheists will often bring up.

And I trust. But Jesus says, I am with you always to the end of the age. So do I believe that? And this is the fact. Obviously, Jesus is with us even when we don't feel it, and we have to believe that and trust that and be faithful to the written word when we don't understand how to follow him in circumstances. The divine hiddenness piece too is a tricky thing, and I think the problem of suffering and evil and the problem of divine hiddenness are the two greatest objections that atheists will often bring up.

Uh, Schellenberger talks about divine hiddenness as a problem, and his first premise is basically, if there is such a people that seek God with all of their hearts to their best understanding, and yet God doesn't reveal Himself, uh, you know, and then they basically go on to say there are such people that have done such seeking and to no fault of their own have not discovered God. Therefore, God doesn't exist. Well, the problem is in the

Uh, Schellenberger talks about divine hiddenness as a problem, and his first premise is basically, if there is such a people that seek God with all of their hearts to their best understanding, and yet God doesn't reveal Himself, uh, you know, and then they basically go on to say there are such people that have done such seeking and to no fault of their own have not discovered God. Therefore, God doesn't exist. Well, the problem is in the

You know, no fault of their own. Like, they're obviously rejecting clear evidential lines that are already there, that are seen in natural revelation. And so there's a lot of lights that are out there, and yet there's enough darkness to keep us, uh, you know, shut off. So I do think that nobody will be able to stand before God and say, as Bertram Wrestle once said, not enough evidence. We're all gonna be in the department of no person is without excuse.

You know, no fault of their own. Like, they're obviously rejecting clear evidential lines that are already there, that are seen in natural revelation. And so there's a lot of lights that are out there, and yet there's enough darkness to keep us, uh, you know, shut off. So I do think that nobody will be able to stand before God and say, as Bertram Wrestle once said, not enough evidence. We're all gonna be in the department of no person is without excuse.

I think this particular listener, Brian got gutter money's worth. Yes, 333 questions in one shot. That's for sure, pretty good for sure. Amy, thanks for sending those questions in on Instagram to start today's program, and now we're gonna go to the phones, though we do have some more questions that were sent in online. Maybe we'll get to those later, but since we're primarily a caller driven show, let's get right to the calls that.

I think this particular listener, Brian got gutter money's worth. Yes, 333 questions in one shot. That's for sure, pretty good for sure. Amy, thanks for sending those questions in on Instagram to start today's program, and now we're gonna go to the phones, though we do have some more questions that were sent in online. Maybe we'll get to those later, but since we're primarily a caller driven show, let's get right to the calls that.

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Yes, I, I'm not sure if I didn't read it or I didn't read that far, but I'm just wondering if, uh, those people that don't make it in the first resurrection,

Yes, I, I'm not sure if I didn't read it or I didn't read that far, but I'm just wondering if, uh, those people that don't make it in the first resurrection,

I believe that if you don't get the mark of the beast, uh,

I believe that if you don't get the mark of the beast, uh,

you will cut your head off.

you will cut your head off.

And my, my question is why is the devil gonna, after 1000 years, if I'm, I'm understanding right, why is he gonna get loose again? Why are they gonna, why is God gonna let him loose again?

And my, my question is why is the devil gonna, after 1000 years, if I'm, I'm understanding right, why is he gonna get loose again? Why are they gonna, why is God gonna let him loose again?

I make my question? Did I make sense?

I make my question? Did I make sense?

Yes, yes, you did. Uh, and it's actually, it's a very good question, and part of the reason it's a good question is because I don't think the Bible tells us the answer to that. Uh, I, I, I mean, if you, I think you can read through the prophets and through Revelation, and I, I, I could be wrong about this, but I don't know of any place where the Bible actually tells us why Satan is loose after 1000 years. My, my best, uh, my best guess.

Yes, yes, you did. Uh, and it's actually, it's a very good question, and part of the reason it's a good question is because I don't think the Bible tells us the answer to that. Uh, I, I, I mean, if you, I think you can read through the prophets and through Revelation, and I, I, I could be wrong about this, but I don't know of any place where the Bible actually tells us why Satan is loose after 1000 years. My, my best, uh, my best guess.

Is that so that God could ultimately vanquish Satan once and for all. Bobby, any thoughts? But,

Is that so that God could ultimately vanquish Satan once and for all. Bobby, any thoughts? But,

go ahead. Yeah, I think Scott's correct on that. I mean, the other observation that is given is, oh, Satan can have one last shot at kind of his attempt to, you know,

go ahead. Yeah, I think Scott's correct on that. I mean, the other observation that is given is, oh, Satan can have one last shot at kind of his attempt to, you know,

Do his rundown cycle that he's already been engaged in, but I like Scott's answer better where he's just going to be released and put out. But you know, we have to be OK too with the Bible because there's a lot of places that's silent, and I think we're OK and to talk about hypotheticals and speak in terms of speculation as long as we acknowledge that's what we're doing.

Do his rundown cycle that he's already been engaged in, but I like Scott's answer better where he's just going to be released and put out. But you know, we have to be OK too with the Bible because there's a lot of places that's silent, and I think we're OK and to talk about hypotheticals and speak in terms of speculation as long as we acknowledge that's what we're doing.

Yes, indeed, Brian, my colleague Eric Thomas at Talbot, he's, he's fond of saying that we need to trust God for what the Bible does say.

Yes, indeed, Brian, my colleague Eric Thomas at Talbot, he's, he's fond of saying that we need to trust God for what the Bible does say.

But also have to trust God for what the Bible doesn't say, and I think that that's, that was, that's a lot of wisdom, I think, and not expect the scripture to speak to areas where it just simply doesn't speak. Arturo, what do you think?

But also have to trust God for what the Bible doesn't say, and I think that that's, that was, that's a lot of wisdom, I think, and not expect the scripture to speak to areas where it just simply doesn't speak. Arturo, what do you think?

Yeah, I mean,

Yeah, I mean,

I, I agree, and, and that's right, we got to trust God.

I, I agree, and, and that's right, we got to trust God.

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my thing was I thought it was for he was probably going to attack the ones that cut their heads off to see if they really were, were really thinking that God is God because I mean the only thing I could think of is the only ones that are going to cut their heads off will be the people that uh that actually were Christians at one time and the only thing they're gonna remember is oh when they had God.

my thing was I thought it was for he was probably going to attack the ones that cut their heads off to see if they really were, were really thinking that God is God because I mean the only thing I could think of is the only ones that are going to cut their heads off will be the people that uh that actually were Christians at one time and the only thing they're gonna remember is oh when they had God.

Their life when God was here and they're going to have to figure out, OK, well I remember when I had the Holy Spirit, so now it's between you and your gut or your brain or no more Holy Spirit. So I thought I was thinking that's probably why he's letting them loose to see if if we were whoever didn't make it in the first recuration and be like, OK, well we're gonna judge you because I mean, does that make sense what I'm trying to say if it's even that, you know.

Their life when God was here and they're going to have to figure out, OK, well I remember when I had the Holy Spirit, so now it's between you and your gut or your brain or no more Holy Spirit. So I thought I was thinking that's probably why he's letting them loose to see if if we were whoever didn't make it in the first recuration and be like, OK, well we're gonna judge you because I mean, does that make sense what I'm trying to say if it's even that, you know.

Yeah, I've got images of ISIS along the beach or, uh, whacking heads off. So I'm not exactly sure how it's all gonna play out myself, so, uh, I guess is the best for me at the moment.

Yeah, I've got images of ISIS along the beach or, uh, whacking heads off. So I'm not exactly sure how it's all gonna play out myself, so, uh, I guess is the best for me at the moment.

Same for me. Thank you for calling in today, Arturo. 888-564-6173 is our number. Now let's go to Dave in Tustin. Looks like he's got a question for Bobby, which of course Scott Ray can answer too, but, uh, what's your question?

Same for me. Thank you for calling in today, Arturo. 888-564-6173 is our number. Now let's go to Dave in Tustin. Looks like he's got a question for Bobby, which of course Scott Ray can answer too, but, uh, what's your question?

Dave, yeah, uh, so the other day I called in. Yeah, are you there? Yes.

Dave, yeah, uh, so the other day I called in. Yeah, are you there? Yes.

Can you hear me? OK, the other day I called in and um.

Can you hear me? OK, the other day I called in and um.

Uh, I, I think I heard, I, I, it was the same day. I heard Bobby mentioned something about like an old, old earth.

Uh, I, I think I heard, I, I, it was the same day. I heard Bobby mentioned something about like an old, old earth.

Concept and um I was just trying to square that with the the beginning of Genesis how it says.

Concept and um I was just trying to square that with the the beginning of Genesis how it says.

When God created the earth, there was a day and the night, and then it says something to that effect like morning and night and then the next.

When God created the earth, there was a day and the night, and then it says something to that effect like morning and night and then the next.

Today we did the next part of creation. I'm just trying to square how the old earth.

Today we did the next part of creation. I'm just trying to square how the old earth.

Idea relates to that.

Idea relates to that.

So the evening and the morning were the first day, so the evening and the morning were the 2nd day, etc. So, yeah, so how does that play into the order, how does the old Earth play into that? Bobby, what do you say?

So the evening and the morning were the first day, so the evening and the morning were the 2nd day, etc. So, yeah, so how does that play into the order, how does the old Earth play into that? Bobby, what do you say?

When it comes to Genesis 1 and 2, I'll be honest, I'm pretty agnostic on, uh, how to understand like that, those verses in a way that I would like to as it relates to age. I tend to believe God's given us two books, the Book of Nature and the Book of Scriptures, and therefore, I don't look at the scriptures and see that there's a contradiction between

When it comes to Genesis 1 and 2, I'll be honest, I'm pretty agnostic on, uh, how to understand like that, those verses in a way that I would like to as it relates to age. I tend to believe God's given us two books, the Book of Nature and the Book of Scriptures, and therefore, I don't look at the scriptures and see that there's a contradiction between

Uh, holding to an old Earth view, and there's different old Earth views like the day age theory, uh, theistic evolution, a progressive creationism. Um, I like a lot of what I see in the framework hypothesis which day one corresponds to day four.

Uh, holding to an old Earth view, and there's different old Earth views like the day age theory, uh, theistic evolution, a progressive creationism. Um, I like a lot of what I see in the framework hypothesis which day one corresponds to day four.

Day 2 corresponds to day 5 and day 3 corresponds to day 6. So you have um form and filling. And so God forms the skies and he fills them with the birds. He forms the seas, and he fills them with the land uh the, the sea creatures. He forms the land and he fills them with uh the land animals and with humans. And so, if you're looking at that, then there is a poetry to the literal truth behind God creating.

Day 2 corresponds to day 5 and day 3 corresponds to day 6. So you have um form and filling. And so God forms the skies and he fills them with the birds. He forms the seas, and he fills them with the land uh the, the sea creatures. He forms the land and he fills them with uh the land animals and with humans. And so, if you're looking at that, then there is a poetry to the literal truth behind God creating.

Uh, literal animals, literal land, literal people, literal atmosphere, uh, you know, and all that. But I would say there could be a poetic appeal there and you could end up in a place where you could take a younger position. I think that that is perfectly suitable, and I understand how people arrive there.

Uh, literal animals, literal land, literal people, literal atmosphere, uh, you know, and all that. But I would say there could be a poetic appeal there and you could end up in a place where you could take a younger position. I think that that is perfectly suitable, and I understand how people arrive there.

I think the danger is, is when you arrive there and say that's the only place to arrive, and if you haven't, then you don't hold to a high view of scripture. Uh, that's just erroneous and off, and I think that's the part where we need to be gracious toward one another. So I don't have a particular viewpoint of old Earth that I could just come down on and would find it worth being bull dogmatic. Instead, the way I look at those verses in chapter 1 and 2.

I think the danger is, is when you arrive there and say that's the only place to arrive, and if you haven't, then you don't hold to a high view of scripture. Uh, that's just erroneous and off, and I think that's the part where we need to be gracious toward one another. So I don't have a particular viewpoint of old Earth that I could just come down on and would find it worth being bull dogmatic. Instead, the way I look at those verses in chapter 1 and 2.

is to step back and get the big picture and it's there to show us that God created us in His image to steward the planet that we live on. That threefold purpose helps guide me and then in the details we should be gracious because it's confusing at times.

is to step back and get the big picture and it's there to show us that God created us in His image to steward the planet that we live on. That threefold purpose helps guide me and then in the details we should be gracious because it's confusing at times.

Bobby, that's a great word, um, and I think, I think there, there are certain things I think we do have to be somewhat agnostic about like you say, for example, the

Bobby, that's a great word, um, and I think, I think there, there are certain things I think we do have to be somewhat agnostic about like you say, for example, the

The day the word day in the scripture can actually mean a 24 hour period. I think most of the time it means that, but it's not, that's not always what it means. It can refer to an extended undefined period of time as well.

The day the word day in the scripture can actually mean a 24 hour period. I think most of the time it means that, but it's not, that's not always what it means. It can refer to an extended undefined period of time as well.

Uh, and so I think the things that are crucial to hold from Genesis one would be, you know, God's the Creator and he's distinct from the creation. Uh, we worship and we worship the Creator, not the creation. That's the reason ultimately I think the Genesis account was written to encourage people to, to worship the Creator and not the creation, which was rampant. That worship of creation was rampant in the ancient Near East during the during the time in which Genesis was written down.

Uh, and so I think the things that are crucial to hold from Genesis one would be, you know, God's the Creator and he's distinct from the creation. Uh, we worship and we worship the Creator, not the creation. That's the reason ultimately I think the Genesis account was written to encourage people to, to worship the Creator and not the creation, which was rampant. That worship of creation was rampant in the ancient Near East during the during the time in which Genesis was written down.

And I think, I think the scripture is also pretty clear that that Adam and Eve were literal people.

And I think, I think the scripture is also pretty clear that that Adam and Eve were literal people.

Uh, with, with a beginning, uh,

Uh, with, with a beginning, uh,

And you know, Paul's, I think really clear in Romans 5 and 1 in 1 Corinthians 15 that there's, he compares Adam to Christ, and I think both of those are intended to be literal literal persons. So I think that's, that's really important to that Adam and Eve were historical human beings, uh, who were the, you know, the first, the first creatures to be, to be made specifically in the image of God.

And you know, Paul's, I think really clear in Romans 5 and 1 in 1 Corinthians 15 that there's, he compares Adam to Christ, and I think both of those are intended to be literal literal persons. So I think that's, that's really important to that Adam and Eve were historical human beings, uh, who were the, you know, the first, the first creatures to be, to be made specifically in the image of God.

I can't think of any examples off the top of my head. What are some verses in the Bible where the word day means more than 24 hours? I'd have to look it up to be sure. I'm not, OK, but they, they are there is

I can't think of any examples off the top of my head. What are some verses in the Bible where the word day means more than 24 hours? I'd have to look it up to be sure. I'm not, OK, but they, they are there is

like 1000 years to the Lord and

like 1000 years to the Lord and

salm. OK, good. All right, Dave. Oh, go ahead, Bobby.

salm. OK, good. All right, Dave. Oh, go ahead, Bobby.

I'll say is.

I'll say is.

We want experts um.

We want experts um.

In our studies, like I like that we have scholars to glean from, for example.

In our studies, like I like that we have scholars to glean from, for example.

But one of the dangers, I think, in scholarship is silo passions. I see it in the ministry all the time. So, for example, as a lead pastor, I'm called to kind of, uh, make sure I'm seeing how the parts fit with the whole. But then people who have a passion about a part, they tend to see everything through that part. Sometimes. Why don't we do more of this? Why don't we do more of this? And then I'm going, because we have to make sure how this flows with this.

But one of the dangers, I think, in scholarship is silo passions. I see it in the ministry all the time. So, for example, as a lead pastor, I'm called to kind of, uh, make sure I'm seeing how the parts fit with the whole. But then people who have a passion about a part, they tend to see everything through that part. Sometimes. Why don't we do more of this? Why don't we do more of this? And then I'm going, because we have to make sure how this flows with this.

And similarly, when it comes to our doctrinal pets, um, what can happen is, is you can find people that get so passionate on young Earth or on old Earth, that sometimes that they start making some exegetical fallacies because typically, if you're building out a doctrine, it's connected to other doctrines. So just to give you an example, when I did my PhD, uh, VIA council, um, I

And similarly, when it comes to our doctrinal pets, um, what can happen is, is you can find people that get so passionate on young Earth or on old Earth, that sometimes that they start making some exegetical fallacies because typically, if you're building out a doctrine, it's connected to other doctrines. So just to give you an example, when I did my PhD, uh, VIA council, um, I

I had some great philosophers at Birmingham, uh, Eugene Agasawa and David Cheatham were my supervisors, and boy, they were so helpful and formulate for helping me formulate my moral argument from guilt.

I had some great philosophers at Birmingham, uh, Eugene Agasawa and David Cheatham were my supervisors, and boy, they were so helpful and formulate for helping me formulate my moral argument from guilt.

And I got a master's in theology from Dallas, so I thought I studied a lot of it, but one of the reviewers, uh, this was his lane. And so as he's doing his review, he said, OK, uh, this is great. I love what you've done, but you got into my territory a little bit, and I can see some weaknesses in the theology that you need to strengthen here.

And I got a master's in theology from Dallas, so I thought I studied a lot of it, but one of the reviewers, uh, this was his lane. And so as he's doing his review, he said, OK, uh, this is great. I love what you've done, but you got into my territory a little bit, and I can see some weaknesses in the theology that you need to strengthen here.

And it was a blind spot because I got so into studying the philosophy that I missed out on this piece. Well, the moral of the story is this. If you pick up a book by Ken Ham, for example, you could leave feeling like, I gotta be passionate about young Earth. But your passion, if it causes you to say, anybody that doesn't hold to my view is wrong, well, guess what? I think you've got stuck in a silo passion that's disconnected from other things, and that doesn't serve the broader vision of unity in the church too well.

And it was a blind spot because I got so into studying the philosophy that I missed out on this piece. Well, the moral of the story is this. If you pick up a book by Ken Ham, for example, you could leave feeling like, I gotta be passionate about young Earth. But your passion, if it causes you to say, anybody that doesn't hold to my view is wrong, well, guess what? I think you've got stuck in a silo passion that's disconnected from other things, and that doesn't serve the broader vision of unity in the church too well.

Very good, Dave, thanks for calling in today on Pastor's Perspective. 888-564-6173 is our number. You can also send in your questions online. That's what Jamal did. He used the form on Kwave.com to send in his question, which is about

Very good, Dave, thanks for calling in today on Pastor's Perspective. 888-564-6173 is our number. You can also send in your questions online. That's what Jamal did. He used the form on Kwave.com to send in his question, which is about

Common grace. Jamal writes, What is common grace? I ask because recently Kanye West has been saying a lot of offensive things, but his Christian music has actually been a huge factor in my own salvation, and I've been to some of his shows promoting these albums and saw a lot of young people coming to God because of his music. Is this an example of common grace, Scott? I would say yes, it is, and that's a, I think, a particularly good example, though not the only one.

Common grace. Jamal writes, What is common grace? I ask because recently Kanye West has been saying a lot of offensive things, but his Christian music has actually been a huge factor in my own salvation, and I've been to some of his shows promoting these albums and saw a lot of young people coming to God because of his music. Is this an example of common grace, Scott? I would say yes, it is, and that's a, I think, a particularly good example, though not the only one.

That we could, we could cite the and the definition of common grace is to be clear about that is it is it is the general grace of God that is lavished upon all human beings regardless of whether they have a relationship to Jesus or not so it's sort of the idea that the the rain falls on the just and the unjust both, uh, and that the, the general blessings of God that are available regardless of a person's faith commitment, that's what we mean by common grace now I think to take it a little deeper theologically.

That we could, we could cite the and the definition of common grace is to be clear about that is it is it is the general grace of God that is lavished upon all human beings regardless of whether they have a relationship to Jesus or not so it's sort of the idea that the the rain falls on the just and the unjust both, uh, and that the, the general blessings of God that are available regardless of a person's faith commitment, that's what we mean by common grace now I think to take it a little deeper theologically.

God God is the, the Proverbs, for example, Proverbs 8 is very clear that God has embedded his wisdom not only in His word but into his world, and common grace is the is the tools that God has given human beings to unearth what he is embedded into His creation. what the wisdom embedded in creation, we also refer to that as general revelation, that God's revelation outside of the pages of Scripture.

God God is the, the Proverbs, for example, Proverbs 8 is very clear that God has embedded his wisdom not only in His word but into his world, and common grace is the is the tools that God has given human beings to unearth what he is embedded into His creation. what the wisdom embedded in creation, we also refer to that as general revelation, that God's revelation outside of the pages of Scripture.

But, uh, uh, and I would refer to common grace basically as the tools that God has given to all human beings to unearth the wisdom he's embedded into his world. Bobby Conway.

But, uh, uh, and I would refer to common grace basically as the tools that God has given to all human beings to unearth the wisdom he's embedded into his world. Bobby Conway.

Yeah, well said, Scott. And one of the things that I think as you think about even in our evangelism opportunities, uh, common grace can be a nice thing to bring up and it's the thing that a non-believer will often take credit for in their own life, not recognizing that it's because of God's common grace that they're experiencing such benefits. And

Yeah, well said, Scott. And one of the things that I think as you think about even in our evangelism opportunities, uh, common grace can be a nice thing to bring up and it's the thing that a non-believer will often take credit for in their own life, not recognizing that it's because of God's common grace that they're experiencing such benefits. And

In hell, that will be the absence of such general grace, and that you could imagine would be a nightmare. So there would be a sense in which even the common grace that people took as their own doing.

In hell, that will be the absence of such general grace, and that you could imagine would be a nightmare. So there would be a sense in which even the common grace that people took as their own doing.

On this side of hell in hell, without that, they would even recognize, wow, the goodness of God was at work in my life, even when I didn't recognize it. So we can point out how God is even at work in common grace.

On this side of hell in hell, without that, they would even recognize, wow, the goodness of God was at work in my life, even when I didn't recognize it. So we can point out how God is even at work in common grace.

Very good. Thank you, Jamal, for sending in your question on Kwave.com, which is also the way Jardin sent in his question, which is, I've heard from my pastor that Donald Trump is the American Messiah, anointed by God and selected to forge a new covenant with him. He compares Trump to the new King of Kings because he's the original bloodline of the 10 tribes of Israel. He also said.

Very good. Thank you, Jamal, for sending in your question on Kwave.com, which is also the way Jardin sent in his question, which is, I've heard from my pastor that Donald Trump is the American Messiah, anointed by God and selected to forge a new covenant with him. He compares Trump to the new King of Kings because he's the original bloodline of the 10 tribes of Israel. He also said.

That the 10 tribes of Israel came to America to establish a new nation of Israel, via George Washington, and the Jews who currently inhabit Israel are not real ones currently. So I guess Jordan's just wondering, is this true? Bobby, what do you think?

That the 10 tribes of Israel came to America to establish a new nation of Israel, via George Washington, and the Jews who currently inhabit Israel are not real ones currently. So I guess Jordan's just wondering, is this true? Bobby, what do you think?

I made uncomfortable anytime we start taking a particular president and propping them up in this way, uh, and then Americanizing uh the Christian vision in that way. Uh, I, I do, I think that everything about that.

I made uncomfortable anytime we start taking a particular president and propping them up in this way, uh, and then Americanizing uh the Christian vision in that way. Uh, I, I do, I think that everything about that.

Statement makes me uncomfortable. I do think that you can, um, that Jews exist. They were spread out. I think it'd be very hard to do a blood trace, you know, back to, you know, the first century Jews, but I, I think you got an explanation, uh, you know, that

Statement makes me uncomfortable. I do think that you can, um, that Jews exist. They were spread out. I think it'd be very hard to do a blood trace, you know, back to, you know, the first century Jews, but I, I think you got an explanation, uh, you know, that

Rome sacked Jerusalem in 18,070. Uh, we know that Jews began to spread out and they would go into different parts of Europe and throughout other parts of, of the world. Uh, and I think that there are Jews today, but I don't think it's important that we do a blood trace back, and I don't think it's good biblical exegesis to say that, you know what, that the tribes have navigated their way into America. I mean, that can sound like Mormonism.

Rome sacked Jerusalem in 18,070. Uh, we know that Jews began to spread out and they would go into different parts of Europe and throughout other parts of, of the world. Uh, and I think that there are Jews today, but I don't think it's important that we do a blood trace back, and I don't think it's good biblical exegesis to say that, you know what, that the tribes have navigated their way into America. I mean, that can sound like Mormonism.

Uh, when you start getting into that team as well, so it's problematic.

Uh, when you start getting into that team as well, so it's problematic.

Scott

Scott

Ryan, there's only one messiah, you know, that job's been taken and there's there's there's not, there's, there's nobody else that belongs in that place and so I would, you know, in the kindest, gentlest way I can say I think that constitutes idolatry to view any human being as.

Ryan, there's only one messiah, you know, that job's been taken and there's there's there's not, there's, there's nobody else that belongs in that place and so I would, you know, in the kindest, gentlest way I can say I think that constitutes idolatry to view any human being as.

You know, it's sort of parallel or even usurping the place of Jesus as Messiah and Lord and you know I remember in, you know, in the early church days thera that phrase Jesus is Lord was a strongly political statement because what it meant to the surrounding Greco-Roman culture was that if Jesus is Lord, then Caesar is not and that could get that could get you into really serious trouble.

You know, it's sort of parallel or even usurping the place of Jesus as Messiah and Lord and you know I remember in, you know, in the early church days thera that phrase Jesus is Lord was a strongly political statement because what it meant to the surrounding Greco-Roman culture was that if Jesus is Lord, then Caesar is not and that could get that could get you into really serious trouble.

Uh, and so they, I think they recognized that even that basic statement of faith was an intrinsically political statement, and I, I think for, for Americans today Jesus is Lord, uh, end of story, and you know the pre uh you know the president is the president, uh, and whether you voted for him or not I think is not, not all that relevant to this, um, and you know our, our leaders are in place.

Uh, and so they, I think they recognized that even that basic statement of faith was an intrinsically political statement, and I, I think for, for Americans today Jesus is Lord, uh, end of story, and you know the pre uh you know the president is the president, uh, and whether you voted for him or not I think is not, not all that relevant to this, um, and you know our, our leaders are in place.

Because they have a stewardship from God, uh, to steward, to steward properly and faithfully.

Because they have a stewardship from God, uh, to steward, to steward properly and faithfully.

But I'm, I'd be very careful. I like Bobby, I'm very uncomfortable with somebody using that kind of elevated language to describe any I mean any person, not to mention a political leader, and there is no just to be clear too, there, there's no nation today that enjoys the same kind of chosen people relationship with God that Old Testament Israel had.

But I'm, I'd be very careful. I like Bobby, I'm very uncomfortable with somebody using that kind of elevated language to describe any I mean any person, not to mention a political leader, and there is no just to be clear too, there, there's no nation today that enjoys the same kind of chosen people relationship with God that Old Testament Israel had.

No, that not even modern day, not even, not, uh, not, well, yes, Jews today still are I think are the chosen people, and modern day Israel may, you know, may or may not have a place in God's future plans. Uh, I think there is a place for Israel as a nation whether the modern day manifestation of it is, is that fulfillment of that plan, I think is, is debatable because Israel not only returns to the land but they return to the Lord.

No, that not even modern day, not even, not, uh, not, well, yes, Jews today still are I think are the chosen people, and modern day Israel may, you know, may or may not have a place in God's future plans. Uh, I think there is a place for Israel as a nation whether the modern day manifestation of it is, is that fulfillment of that plan, I think is, is debatable because Israel not only returns to the land but they return to the Lord.

In in the prophetic word, so, uh, in order for the promises to be completely fulfilled, Israel also has to make a return to Jesus as their, their Messiah. So I, I just, I'd be really careful saying that any country today has that, um, how can I put, how can I best put, has that sort of, uh.

In in the prophetic word, so, uh, in order for the promises to be completely fulfilled, Israel also has to make a return to Jesus as their, their Messiah. So I, I just, I'd be really careful saying that any country today has that, um, how can I put, how can I best put, has that sort of, uh.

Now that special divinely ordained relationship with God in the same way that Old Testament Israel did. Yeah.

Now that special divinely ordained relationship with God in the same way that Old Testament Israel did. Yeah.

Jardon, thanks for sending in your question, and there are a lot of churches that are more political than others and maybe they do support our current president, but this sounds just kind of extreme if they're saying that he's the American Messiah. Do you think

Jardon, thanks for sending in your question, and there are a lot of churches that are more political than others and maybe they do support our current president, but this sounds just kind of extreme if they're saying that he's the American Messiah. Do you think

Scott and Bobby that Jarden should maybe find another church. Do you think this is a red flag that he's got to look around somewhere else?

Scott and Bobby that Jarden should maybe find another church. Do you think this is a red flag that he's got to look around somewhere else?

Um, uh, maybe I, I'd be uncomfortable in a in a church like that. If it were me, I would look around for another one, but I'm, I'm reluctant to speak for him. Yeah, and it's not Bobby Conway's church. We know that for sure that, uh, is doing this. But Bobby, what would you think? Same thing, red flags, what?

Um, uh, maybe I, I'd be uncomfortable in a in a church like that. If it were me, I would look around for another one, but I'm, I'm reluctant to speak for him. Yeah, and it's not Bobby Conway's church. We know that for sure that, uh, is doing this. But Bobby, what would you think? Same thing, red flags, what?

Yeah, I'm with Scott. Red flags, sit down and have a conversation if you can be dogmatic

Yeah, I'm with Scott. Red flags, sit down and have a conversation if you can be dogmatic

on that. I

on that. I

don't know. Yeah, if that were Bobby Conway's church, I'd read through the screen and smack him around. We'll be right back.

don't know. Yeah, if that were Bobby Conway's church, I'd read through the screen and smack him around. We'll be right back.

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We're back and our phone number hasn't changed. It's 888-564-6173. We'd love to hear from you. We're gonna be here for about 25 more minutes on this Wednesday afternoon. 888-564-6173. I'm Brian Perez here with Scott Ray from Viola University and Bobby Conway from Image Church in Charlotte, North Carolina, 888-564-6173. Here's another question that was sent in online. It's from Dion.

Who says, am I doubting God's goodness if I don't have confidence that I will be married again, if someone will want to create a life with me after my messy divorce, that I won't be attractive to anyone. Humans have the gift of free will, but what if no one is willing to be in my life? asks Dion. What do you think, Scott? I was gonna say that sounds like a question for a full-time pastor. Hey, look, we have one. Bobby, take it away.

Who says, am I doubting God's goodness if I don't have confidence that I will be married again, if someone will want to create a life with me after my messy divorce, that I won't be attractive to anyone. Humans have the gift of free will, but what if no one is willing to be in my life? asks Dion. What do you think, Scott? I was gonna say that sounds like a question for a full-time pastor. Hey, look, we have one. Bobby, take it away.

Well, first off, I'm sorry you've been through a divorce. It sounds like that's produced some insecurities in your life. And, uh, insecurities are tough. We all have them, and if we don't think we have them, it's just the right trial that can produce how insecure and fragile we are as humans.

Well, first off, I'm sorry you've been through a divorce. It sounds like that's produced some insecurities in your life. And, uh, insecurities are tough. We all have them, and if we don't think we have them, it's just the right trial that can produce how insecure and fragile we are as humans.

And, uh, ultimately, I would say, always do some good reflection on the divorce. Uh, you know, divorce always has two people and while one person might have committed the act that uh made it justifiable, uh, you know, two people are always in the covenant and both bring their problems to the table.

And, uh, ultimately, I would say, always do some good reflection on the divorce. Uh, you know, divorce always has two people and while one person might have committed the act that uh made it justifiable, uh, you know, two people are always in the covenant and both bring their problems to the table.

So looking back, what could you have done differently as a spouse? And so, therefore, if you come across somebody and you're talking about the divorce, you can say, you know, when I reflect on my marriage, here are some lessons that I learned and

So looking back, what could you have done differently as a spouse? And so, therefore, if you come across somebody and you're talking about the divorce, you can say, you know, when I reflect on my marriage, here are some lessons that I learned and

These are really hard for me and it's produced these insecurities in me and just be vulnerable. So allow those insecurities, um, to be an opportunity to grow in your identity in Christ and then don't be in a rush to get into another relationship, and then realize that, that, you know what, God can if it's God's will for you to get married again and the conditions are right and, and it's what he desires, then it is a trust issue. So I think you got a two-fold issue. Uh, number one,

These are really hard for me and it's produced these insecurities in me and just be vulnerable. So allow those insecurities, um, to be an opportunity to grow in your identity in Christ and then don't be in a rush to get into another relationship, and then realize that, that, you know what, God can if it's God's will for you to get married again and the conditions are right and, and it's what he desires, then it is a trust issue. So I think you got a two-fold issue. Uh, number one,

Be secure in your identity. #2, be secure in your trust for the Lord.

Be secure in your identity. #2, be secure in your trust for the Lord.

Bobby, that's, that's really good advice, Bobby. Uh, the only thing I would add to that, Brian, is that, uh, the scriptures really clear that we're complete in Christ. We don't need a mate to complete us, um, and that's, I think that's a misconception I think people have on a misreading of Genesis 1 and 2 because Adam and Eve completed each other. That's true.

Bobby, that's, that's really good advice, Bobby. Uh, the only thing I would add to that, Brian, is that, uh, the scriptures really clear that we're complete in Christ. We don't need a mate to complete us, um, and that's, I think that's a misconception I think people have on a misreading of Genesis 1 and 2 because Adam and Eve completed each other. That's true.

But I think they were, uh, in Genesis 1 and 2 they were seen as representative heads of male and female of the species. What Genesis 1 and 2 teaches is that male and female generically complete each other, not necessarily that one man is completed by one specific woman. So I, I thought that's where I think that that the application of that I think goes farther than with the text intents.

But I think they were, uh, in Genesis 1 and 2 they were seen as representative heads of male and female of the species. What Genesis 1 and 2 teaches is that male and female generically complete each other, not necessarily that one man is completed by one specific woman. So I, I thought that's where I think that that the application of that I think goes farther than with the text intents.

So I would, I would not say that God, God does not promise everyone that they'll be married, you know, the Bible's really clear. Singleness is a, you know, is a an esteemed state in the scriptures, uh, and it's an intrinsically good state in which we are complete by virtue of being in Christ.

So I would, I would not say that God, God does not promise everyone that they'll be married, you know, the Bible's really clear. Singleness is a, you know, is a an esteemed state in the scriptures, uh, and it's an intrinsically good state in which we are complete by virtue of being in Christ.

The verse that says he who finds a wife finds a good thing. So I think sometimes people look at that and say, well, does that mean God doesn't have God's not giving me all of his goodness if I don't have a wife or a spouse? Uh no, not necessarily, um, and I think I, you know, God's goodness, I, I, you know, and I recognize that for us, for, for all of us to talk about God's goodness to this particular listener.

The verse that says he who finds a wife finds a good thing. So I think sometimes people look at that and say, well, does that mean God doesn't have God's not giving me all of his goodness if I don't have a wife or a spouse? Uh no, not necessarily, um, and I think I, you know, God's goodness, I, I, you know, and I recognize that for us, for, for all of us to talk about God's goodness to this particular listener.

Uh, it may sound a little hollow given the stuff that she's been through, and I, and I, I with Bobby, I, I have great compassion for the journey that she's been on, which sounds like is a really tough one. And so it may be pretty tricky to see the the examples of God's goodness in her life, and I, you know, I, I admit that, but I think sometimes we have to take by faith that God is good all the time and even if we, if we don't see it, we still have to affirm that Bobby.

Uh, it may sound a little hollow given the stuff that she's been through, and I, and I, I with Bobby, I, I have great compassion for the journey that she's been on, which sounds like is a really tough one. And so it may be pretty tricky to see the the examples of God's goodness in her life, and I, you know, I, I admit that, but I think sometimes we have to take by faith that God is good all the time and even if we, if we don't see it, we still have to affirm that Bobby.

Mm

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Yeah, and even in the scriptures we see that singleness is held up is very valuable. I mean, Paul says, I wish all of you were as I am, uh, and you know, most believe that he was single. There are some that would want to say that he's married. I personally look at Paul and take him as a single individual.

Yeah, and even in the scriptures we see that singleness is held up is very valuable. I mean, Paul says, I wish all of you were as I am, uh, and you know, most believe that he was single. There are some that would want to say that he's married. I personally look at Paul and take him as a single individual.

Uh, Jesus, uh, some erroneously want to say he was married too, but was single and he was quite fulfilled. In fact, uh, the Bible says of Jesus in Hebrews one where God the Father says, uh, you know, the Lord God, your God has anointed you with the oil of gladness.

Uh, Jesus, uh, some erroneously want to say he was married too, but was single and he was quite fulfilled. In fact, uh, the Bible says of Jesus in Hebrews one where God the Father says, uh, you know, the Lord God, your God has anointed you with the oil of gladness.

Beyond all of your companions. What's cool about that is I think that Jesus was the most joyful person to ever live. And why? Because the next verse says, because you have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness. So in other words, uh, the most fulfilled, joyful life comes in not being weighed down with guilt and shame and.

Beyond all of your companions. What's cool about that is I think that Jesus was the most joyful person to ever live. And why? Because the next verse says, because you have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness. So in other words, uh, the most fulfilled, joyful life comes in not being weighed down with guilt and shame and.

Therefore, I think that Jesus exuded that kind of joy that a sinless person would have. And in marriage, uh, I do think that it's a great sanctification opportunity to go into it. Uh, you will be challenged, there'll be lots of intense fellowship.

Therefore, I think that Jesus exuded that kind of joy that a sinless person would have. And in marriage, uh, I do think that it's a great sanctification opportunity to go into it. Uh, you will be challenged, there'll be lots of intense fellowship.

Uh, but just because you're married doesn't mean that you'll be more joyful. In fact, sometimes, uh, people are miserable in their marriage because they feel like they, um, they don't wanna go through the sanctification process or they're looking for that honeymoon season to always stay in place. Uh, but Paul paints a vision in which you can be fully satisfied in who you are in Christ with Christ.

Uh, but just because you're married doesn't mean that you'll be more joyful. In fact, sometimes, uh, people are miserable in their marriage because they feel like they, um, they don't wanna go through the sanctification process or they're looking for that honeymoon season to always stay in place. Uh, but Paul paints a vision in which you can be fully satisfied in who you are in Christ with Christ.

Very good. Thank you, Deon for sending in your question on uh online, using the Kwave.com page. And here's one that was sent in on Facebook. It's from Ralph, who wants to know.

Very good. Thank you, Deon for sending in your question on uh online, using the Kwave.com page. And here's one that was sent in on Facebook. It's from Ralph, who wants to know.

Uh, or who says I have a friend who's wondering if God still talks to people in dreams and visions, does he, Scott? Absolutely he does. Ask, uh, the hordes and hordes of people who are coming to faith in the Muslim world in the Middle East.

Uh, or who says I have a friend who's wondering if God still talks to people in dreams and visions, does he, Scott? Absolutely he does. Ask, uh, the hordes and hordes of people who are coming to faith in the Muslim world in the Middle East.

I say dreams and visions are one of the primary ways that God's working in the Middle East today to bring people in the Muslim world to faith, uh, and we, we used to have testimony after testimony from former Muslims who have come to faith because of a a vision or a dream in which the gospel message was made crystal clear to them, Bobby.

I say dreams and visions are one of the primary ways that God's working in the Middle East today to bring people in the Muslim world to faith, uh, and we, we used to have testimony after testimony from former Muslims who have come to faith because of a a vision or a dream in which the gospel message was made crystal clear to them, Bobby.

No, I think that's fantastic right there.

No, I think that's fantastic right there.

Very good. Let's go to the phones. Here is Lemec in Los Angeles. How can we help you today, Lemec? Uh, thank you for taking my call. You bet. Uh, yeah, my, my question is, is, uh, uh, according what I read in the, in the, in the scriptures, uh, and I am very, very, uh, uh, I really need the information.

Very good. Let's go to the phones. Here is Lemec in Los Angeles. How can we help you today, Lemec? Uh, thank you for taking my call. You bet. Uh, yeah, my, my question is, is, uh, uh, according what I read in the, in the, in the scriptures, uh, and I am very, very, uh, uh, I really need the information.

About where, where the descendants uh of Isa.

About where, where the descendants uh of Isa.

Uh, uh, where they are located and who they are in this time because one pastor confusing me and he told me, uh, the descendants of Isa, it doesn't exist no more, and I don't believe that because when I'm seeing, uh, when I'm seeing the Jewish exist, uh Jewish was after the, the, the.

Uh, uh, where they are located and who they are in this time because one pastor confusing me and he told me, uh, the descendants of Isa, it doesn't exist no more, and I don't believe that because when I'm seeing, uh, when I'm seeing the Jewish exist, uh Jewish was after the, the, the.

So I don't understand why he told me that, but I'm, that's why I'm calling to you, because you have more knowledge or you have more, more information about that because I really want to know who they are because Germany people are descendants from Isa. OK, so Lemec, let me ask you this. Why is it that you need to know this?

So I don't understand why he told me that, but I'm, that's why I'm calling to you, because you have more knowledge or you have more, more information about that because I really want to know who they are because Germany people are descendants from Isa. OK, so Lemec, let me ask you this. Why is it that you need to know this?

Well, because, because, uh, my eyes are seeing all of these white people just using their weapons, using guns to, to oppress uh people.

Well, because, because, uh, my eyes are seeing all of these white people just using their weapons, using guns to, to oppress uh people.

You know, because I'm from Guatemala and, and, you know, and just they are using this, this, this kind of uh strategics to oppress all other people, weak, weakness people who, who don't have no, no, no, I mean, they don't, I mean, I can do, I can do that. I can uh take guns to defend myself, but I don't want to do that because God created me a peaceful man. OK, Bobby, what do you say to Lemec?

You know, because I'm from Guatemala and, and, you know, and just they are using this, this, this kind of uh strategics to oppress all other people, weak, weakness people who, who don't have no, no, no, I mean, they don't, I mean, I can do, I can do that. I can uh take guns to defend myself, but I don't want to do that because God created me a peaceful man. OK, Bobby, what do you say to Lemec?

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Lemec, I think there's a, you're feeling a lot of turmoil around, um, a group of people that don't even really exist anymore. Um, the, the, the Edomites then, you know, once Greek became the common languageoina Greek, they became known as Eunians.

Lemec, I think there's a, you're feeling a lot of turmoil around, um, a group of people that don't even really exist anymore. Um, the, the, the Edomites then, you know, once Greek became the common languageoina Greek, they became known as Eunians.

And uh these people uh during the Maccabean revolt, uh, their population diminished. Uh, not only that, uh, you know, Esau, his descendants were the Edomites, and it comes from a Semitic word, Edom, just means red, and they lived in the Judean wilderness in the Petra region, uh, in modern-day Jordan. And, uh, you know, we haven't

And uh these people uh during the Maccabean revolt, uh, their population diminished. Uh, not only that, uh, you know, Esau, his descendants were the Edomites, and it comes from a Semitic word, Edom, just means red, and they lived in the Judean wilderness in the Petra region, uh, in modern-day Jordan. And, uh, you know, we haven't

Even got a handle on how to find these people. I mean, basically, when Herod died, um, you know, these people were destroyed and God prophesized that the destruction of the Edenomites would take place. And so, as far as being concerned about modern day Edomites roaming around, to be in fear of anyone claims they're an Edomite, uh, they're not gonna be able to do a