Science has finally established the perfect age gap for siblings, but who is this helping? One of our hosts hates it more than others. 

And it's the Wicked elephant in the room: Hollywood's return to extreme thinness is prompting us to question what's being modelled to our sons and daughters.

Also, the rising trend of kindymoons. What are they? Who's taking them and why? We discuss.

Plus, we deep-dive into the multi-billion dollar trend of matching Christmas pyjamas and whether this consumer identity is really for the kids, or just for the 'gram. Monique, Stacey and Amelia share where they stand. 

Our Recommendations:

📺 Stacey wants you to watch The Celebrity Traitors UK on Tenplay.

🎄 Monz recommends the Lions Christmas Fruit Cake.

🎨 Amelia is obsessed withPosca Paint Markers.

For help and support for eating disorders, contact the Butterfly Foundation’s National Support line and online service on 1800 ED HOPE (1800 33 4673).

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Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

Science has finally established the perfect age gap for siblings, but who is this helping? One of our hosts hates it more than others.&nbsp;
And it's the Wicked elephant in the room: Hollywood's return to extreme thinness is prompting us to question what's being modelled to our sons and daughters. Also, the rising trend of kindymoons. What are they? Who's taking them and why? We discuss.
Plus, we deep-dive into the multi-billion dollar trend of matching Christmas pyjamas and whether this consumer identity is really for the kids, or just for the 'gram. Monique, Stacey and Amelia share where they stand.&nbsp;
Our Recommendations:
📺 Stacey wants you to watch <a href="https://10.com.au/the-celebrity-traitors-uk">The Celebrity Traitors UK&nbsp;</a>on Tenplay.
🎄 Monz recommends the <a href="https://lionsclubs.org.au/get-involved/fundraising/lions-mints-cakes/">Lions Christmas Fruit Cake.</a>
🎨 Amelia is obsessed with <a href="https://fave.co/3MrPa6H">Posca Paint Markers</a>.
For help and support for eating disorders, contact the&nbsp;<a href="https://butterfly.org.au/">Butterfly Foundation</a>&rsquo;s National Support line and<a href="https://butterfly.org.au/">&nbsp;online service</a>&nbsp;on 1800 ED HOPE (1800 33 4673).
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/parenting-out-loud/skincare-for-three-year-olds-shay-mitchell/">The Rise Of Trad Sons &amp; Sheet Masks For 3 Year Olds</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/parenting-out-loud/favourite-child-syndrome">The Favourite Child Taboo &amp; Why Jennifer Lawrence's Honesty Hit So Hard</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/parenting-out-loud/elf-on-the-shelf-christmas-traditions">Picnic Table Politics &amp; The Era Of Tiny Spies</a></li>
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<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/wicked-for-good-review/">A brutally honest review of the new Wicked movie.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/body-image-2025/">Okay, it's time we talk about the thing we're all too scared to talk about.</a></li>
<li aria-level="1"><a href="https://www.mamamia.com.au/celebrity-traitors-uk-2025/">'This is the worst reality show I've ever watched. I never want it to end.'</a></li>
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Monique Bowley, Stacey Hicks &amp; Amelia Lester
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock
Senior/Audio Producer: Leah Porges
Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz

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A Wicked Elephant In The Room & The Science Behind The Perfect Age Gap

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