Parenting is a JokeJoe List and Sarah Tollemache: Mom and Dad on Tour
It's our last episode of Season 1!!! Ophira chats with comedian couple Joe List and Sarah Tollemache about how they're preparing for their son and why DNA doesn't mean you'll love someone.
Hello, listeners. This is the last episode of season one. Can you believe it? Good news? Though, we'll be back. I am currently overcompensating for not being around as a parent because I got a lot of comedy work this summer, and I just feel like I gotta take it while I can. You know, It's what it's like when you don't have a salary anyone else work with a scarcity model and mindset fun. Right, So I've been kind of just giving him whatever he wants and buying him gifts and allowing more ice cream and just saying yes in general, setting myself up for failure. Right, But I'll tell you something. He seems happy. This is parenting is a joke. Get ready for those ads. He used to be chaired, He's all.
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OHI yeah, Hello, everybody. Welcome to parenting as a joke. I'm a woman grasping with a sense of self ofi at Eisenberg. On the show, I talked to comedy people about their work and their career and what it is like to do all of that with kids in the mix. Oh my god, how the fuck are we all doing it? And in today's episode, which is our last episode of season one, can't believe it. So on our last episode of season one, I talked to a comedy couple they are expecting a child, both incredible stand ups, the hilarious Joe List and the hilarious Sarah tolmanash about their process to parenthood.
We started late. We always laugh. It's just kind of funny to be like, I'm ready and then you're you're at forty two, You're la, Oh, yeah, it's a little late.
So recently I subscribe to Fatherly, which is great. Shout out to Fatherly. That's full of content and articles obviously specifically focused on dads. And I read a fun article today called twenty four super freaking fun things you need to do before school starts and it was joyous, had a lot of great ideas. And then I went to one of my favorite mom sites and I am exaggerating and making this up a little bit, but I felt in comparison, all of the headlines were versions of are you a terrible mom? Here's seven reasons it might be true? And I just thought, oh my goodness, we need to work on the tone. Of both of these even it out a little bit because right now I want to be a dad. I also read an article about how a care free childhood is the single best thing we can give our kids. I will admit I read this with the windows closed, my air purifier humming, and the AC unit on high. Why because there's wildfires, floods, extreme heat, illness and tics. You know what, when you listen to the news and you find out that Spain's election resulted in them not having a government, that feels like you're fluff piece for the day. So I'm working at a new general outlook that I want to tell you about. Abandon the idea the things are going to get better. No, but abandon the idea that things are going to settle or that they're going to hit a routine or even stabilize. And you know what, this out looks kind of based on parenting because you know when you talk to parents of older kids and they say, yeah, yeah, yeah, it does get easier, but it also gets more complicated and harder in different ways. Right because the baby stuff and the toddler stuff was hard, but we're done with diapers and food issues maybe and tantrum management. And they've segued into much more complex realities of mental health challenges, navigating friendships, breakups, and you know what, that's if you're lucky. So we just have to be there for our people, whomever you've got. Just keep connecting. Yeah, like that moment when a fellow parent admits something that they are feeling, thinking, have observed and it hits you. You feel and have gone through or experienced that exact same thing, and it feels so good to not be alone. My God, feels so good.
You know.
Connecting is why I love stand up comedy because when you have that with the audience that that dialogue is just you feel like they're exactly understanding what you're going through. It's the best. Even if that audience is three tequilas and one edible in, it feels so human. And that's the reason why I wanted to do this podcast, you know, because when I was a new mom in this no traditional job, I was lonely, so lonely, and I was starving for connection. I just want to thank you for listening. I hope you've connected to this show. I mean, we did forty episodes, so there has to be like a moment or maybe you've got it all together and you listen to this episode just to feel better about your life, in which case, gold star and please teach me. I'm also excited to share that we did get grin lit for season two. Oh yeah, we are going to be back. Season two of this podcast will launch on Tuesday, September nineteenth. In between now and then, make sure you subscribe to this podcast. We're just taking a few weeks off and we'll be back with the brand new material, all kinds of amazing things. Thank you so much for sticking with the show, supporting the show, listening even through the sometimes onslaught of weird ads, and coming right up a great conversation with the very funny Joe List and the very funny Sarah Tulmanash joining me right now. I recently did her podcast, which is amazing. You should listen. It's called Lady Journey. I know her from the stand up scene. She has had late night appearances on Stephen Colbert, James Gordon. She has a comedy special called Voluptuous Boy, and she also has a monthly online short film festival that she runs called at Home Film Festival. Sarah Polomanash, how are you good.
Thanks for having me.
Hey, So I just getting the listeners up to speed here because we've only done this one other time where we had someone on the show who does not have a kid in hand yet but is expecting.
It's on my body, it's in me as we speak.
Oh and look who has joined us? Hi, everybody, you know what that is as we talk about pregnancy. For you as the father, to show up late is stereotypically on put.
Well, it is eight am, I'm on the West Coast, and you.
Know what, this is perfect training for having a child. So joining us as well, coming from the West Coast and slightly complaining about the time, which is hilarious because the whole thing about being a parent which sucks the most. As a comic are the hours. It's the late night and early morning mixed. Oh my goodness. An amazing comic. He has a weekly podcast called Tuesdays with Stories. He's got fantastic comedy specials. I hate myself this year's material and being attacked by panic Joe list coming in hot.
Hi, everybody, Hey, I'm here. I did not come in hot. I was assaulted verbally as soon as I entered coming.
Out Hot from my point of view. Uh So, Sarah, where are you in the pregnancy.
I'll be at twenty six weeks on Sunday.
Okay, how's it going.
It's going good. I'm in I feel like I'm in the sweet spot where like the first trimester was horrific and I don't I don't understand how any woman works during that time period.
I think struggle, struggle, pain, swallow it going.
Yes, but I was such a relief to know that I came out of it because I was so worried I was going to have one of those like morning sicknesses that go throughout the whole pregnancy. Yes, and now I show a bump, so like now I have like people see what the reasoning is if I'm not into something where beforehand you're like, I can't tell you. Somebody said it was like I had like a Victorian sickness where I'm just laying in bed and it's weird.
You're towards the home stretch.
Yeah, Like, I know I'm more than halfway done, but I still am like, well, three months is still a while to like postpone do stuff last minute.
It feels like, well, that's what I want to know from both of you. What's your approach to this? Are you reading books? Are you thinking of big changes? Jo is saying no, he's nodding his head. Nothing.
I'm reading a book about how they got John Gottie Finally.
Oh yeah, that's good.
It's really well. It's captivating.
That preps you in a different way.
Yeah, TikTok, Sara.
I get a lot of baby tiktoks out of now. My Instagram feed is all pregnancy stuff, and then I'm learning about sleep routines.
Uh huh.
But you tell people all this and you're like, and then I plan to wake up at seven and then we'll do two hours of this, and then everybody's like, you can plan. Then whenever he gets there, there's nothing you can do about it. I also have fantasies where I'm like, oh, you know, I'll take that while the baby sleeping to like write a book or movie.
Yeah, well you'll see. I mean, I always am surprised by people who say the you know, I did this all day and then we put the child to sleep, and then I worked on something creative because I found, you know, there's a reason why all these cliches out there exist that I just never related to where it's like it's wine o'clock and the moms with wine and all this stuff after seven. It's because your brain is I mean, I don't know. It's a very high risk project that you have to learn quickly for both of you. When you know comedy couple having a kid is also a whole different thing because there's not a lot of them, any comedy parents out there that you're looking at as your idols. I'm thinking Rich Voss, Bonnie MacFarlane. I'm trying to think of others two comics that I know.
I was thinking of Rich Voss and Bonnie McFarland. But then you said idols, and there's no way that word would come in. Yeah, we have ils.
Okay, just tell me if I'm asking anything that you're like, eh, but was this planned where you like, now is the time?
Yes? Because we did We did IVF.
Okay, so there was there was a great deal of planning and thought, yes.
And money.
In a team of scientists.
There was a lab involved.
Yep, Joe, what was your experience of that?
Weird?
I mean, Sarah had to give herself a shot in the butt every night, which I just straight up would I just sat we wouldn't be able to have a kid if that was me, we.
Just wouldn't do it. I can't. I hate needle.
I can't watch a needle go into somebody, let alone shoot myself with a needle. So Sarah would do it and I would hide behind the couch. I couldn't even look over there whatsoever. Yeah, I felt like I didn't have to do too much. I mean, I had to masturbate in a lab and I didn't enjoy that. But it's hard to complain too much with Sarah's shooting herself at the nable.
How was the inspirational material that was in the labs?
Well, I went one time and they had porn and everything, but I'm not a It sounds silly, but I'm not a big porn guy. And then I I went the second time and they just didn't have the porn app It was just literally Disney. Plus it's just so funny to me, So I just had to look at Baby Yoda and.
Hope something worked out. It was awkward.
It's really awkward, and it's only women that work there, so it just feels weird because like they're like, okay, get in there, and then you have to come out, and the first time I went, I put the sample where it's supposed to go. There's like a little trap, like a blood sampo, the same thing. You would just put it behind this door. And then I didn't know what I was supposed to do, so I just walked out into the lobby and the lady was.
Like, no, no, you're not supposed to be out here. Get back.
I was supposed to knock on the door of the nurse, but it felt very shameful that I just walked out. No, I wasn't carrying anything, but it's still like, no, get back from.
There too soon, Just strutting around everybody, just wanted to introduce myself around.
He's got a robe that's open.
Yeah. But yeah, other than that, it was it was fine. I mean I had to give blood once and I hated giving blood once.
So yeah, if it was switched, we just wouldn't have a baby, would have to get a dog.
Okay, good, all right, Well guess what you're gonna get a baby? Yeah, Sarah, what was your experience of it?
It was one of those things where you're just like, you just have to accept it that this is what you're going through it took a full year. It was a long process.
I felt.
I know other people have done it that's taken longer because they with their eggs and all that. But we didn't use my eggs, used an egg donor, So it was that part made it easier. But I had gotten pregnant right when we had started this, so it put everything on hold and we're like, let's see where this pregnancy goes. And then it didn't make it right because I was I think it was forty three at the time. We started late. We always laugh, it's just kind of funny to be like I'm ready and then you're you're at forty two. You're like, oh, yeah, it's a little late.
Did you always want to have kids?
I did, but it was always one of those things, like you, it was just an X, like an added bonus. I'd rather have the good relationship and then if we were both in a place that we both wanted, then it would be great. But the idea of like pushing that when I'm just could be happy with one thing was it seemed like too.
Much for all.
It's really hard to find a really good.
Relationship, impossible and near impossible. Yeah, one day, this is your first wife.
Ye, but yeah, I'd rather have like a good relationship than a baby.
So it's like check mark and then you were able to move to the next level.
Yes, And then we were both in the same place and excited. And then it was rough because you know, we had two pregnancies and they both miscarriages, and I was expecting that just because of my age, So I wasn't like distraughtful as I thought it was gonna be. I know for other women it can be, but I already had known that, like there was a high chance that these pregnancies wouldn't.
Make it right.
Each of those took a year in between, and so at that age, that's when we decided to just do one push at the fertility clinic, and they were really nice. They weighed out our options, and I just felt like egg donor was the best option for us at my age. And the percentage you do the math. If we used my eggs, it was something like sixty thousand dollars to use my eggs, and there was something like a one to three percent chance like having an actual baby. And then if we use another person's eggs, it was half as much as that or like one third, and the chance was like sixty percent. That we were like, this is just a better business investment.
You're like, here's my I don't know, here's what I want to know about these eggs free range.
Yeah.
Yeah, like.
I think at that time, I was forty three, about to turn forty four. I had just known. I was like the chances of using my eggs were so slim that I just didn't want to risk it. And then I was like, DNA does not dictate whether you love something.
No, it does not. No, everybody, it is true. I mean you know, I remember having a talk with my husband where we'll be like, do we even like our how strongly do we feel? I was like, I just I would like I've got good hair. I would wouldn't mind that passed along. But yeah, very little els.
Yeah, once you're spending that much money, you just do genetic testing. Yeah. Relieved me of some of that like stress of like, oh, no, we're going to have a healthy baby. Where now I feel like our chances are really high.
Yeah, you're you're doing great.
They tell us our chances after we had tried for two years, were one percent of bringing a baby term. And we just felt like such dorks.
Oh, we're like.
Idiots, we're stupid.
It's like one percent. But yeah we cranked it up to sixty five and we're now we're kicking butt.
Yeah. Did you always want to have a kid joke?
No, I didn't.
It took a lot of therapy for me to want to, because you know, not to go down like a weird place like my family always ever presented to me from my parents and my extended family was that having a kid room wins your life.
That was what my mom said.
Yeah they still do.
Yeah, my parents still do currently with my wife pregnant.
So it's just and then it had to I had to go to therapy and talk to people that were like, no, it's like the greatest joy.
And I always loved kids and loved my nieces and nephews, and I've worked with kids my whole life. Had just been drawn to children my whole life and feel like a child. And then somebody was like, when it's yours, it's even more meaningful, right, And I was like, that's not what my mom said. So it took a lot of unlearning to want to.
I think, you know, just to give you some more positivity My mom started having kids when she was I mean talk about different era sixteen and ended when she was forty three. So she had this feeling that she missed out and so that's part of the reason why she said, you're ruining your life. But I had a life. Yeah, we'll have a life like I did it. I did the hanging out.
I feel similarly. My mother was eighteen when she had my sister, twenty two when she had me. I think, and yeah, I've been.
Everywhere, and we're alcoholics in recovery. So I've already drank all the alcohol and been blacked out and broke everything and.
Traveled and we've been everywhere.
I've been to, you know, forty three countries or whatever in forty eight states. So we lived a life. It's time to turn it in and be miserable.
Day in day out, just Julia, less hours packed us.
Just never ending lack of joy.
No, it's so yeah, and it just seems exciting and time in that connection. Plus nobody's ever in my family really listened to me and liked me.
And I think this is my chance, this kid, he might enjoy me. We'll see.
So you're on the road right now, is it, Joe, is the idea at all about like, I am going to rack up as many dates, you know, and within this period, with the idea that as soon as we are, you know, with a baby in hand, I'm going to take paternity leave.
Yeah exactly, I'm like trying to run around. I'm on day eleven of a twelve day trip. I literally have zero clean clothes. The hotel's doing my laundry right now. I'm wearing a dirty Iowaha Gyes t shirt on stage last night too, but anyways, zero underwear. But yeah, so I'm trying to just run around and make as much money and do as many podcasts and such as I can now so we can hang and be with this baby.
Do you have an idea right now, whether it is true or not, of like how much time you want to take.
Off November and December?
And then I think I have a date in January and a date in February, so we'll see.
I guess we'll just play it by. I'm not don't.
I don't like leaving without a kid, so having a baby there is going to make it extra hard, I.
Know, right, Sarah. I know you're on stage yep, because I see you, and I see you through socials that you're on stage, But how how are you envisioning it?
Oh my god. It feels like I have to wrap up every loose end and finish every project that I'm like, I've got sketches I want to shoot. I want to do a special before I'm done. But that's where I'm at is just trying to get all of that career stuff a little put to the side so I can just focus on being a mom when we have the baby.
Yeah, I highly recommend doing a special. I did the same thing and I was so pregnant, and I do remember people actually gasped when I walked on to stage because it was just so huge. It is such a fun prop at a certain like for you know, a long time, but right at the end people are they're worried for you. Yeah, and then you can just say all this nasty stuff and it's ridiculous.
That's what I plan on doing. I plan on doing almost like the darkest material that I have, yes at this moment, because I feel like it's the right time to do it, and then I can get into the mommy's stuff when I come back.
Yes, Mount SINAI.
I think that would be great. You do it one of those pools they have for you and the midwives. Yeah, live from the pool, birthday pool. Do you have dulas lined up? Midwives?
We have a doctor. That's it.
It's so weird, like take a doctor.
One doctor.
We see her every four weeks. At first, it was just a group of medical associates where it just felt like in my mom's era, it was like so specialized. She was like, you stay in a ward with other mothers and do calisthenics. I love those words, you know, like back in the seven and this was in South Africa, it just felt like they had more one on one where here it's like it's not as personalized. It feels like.
We had appointment with the doctor, like you know, the monthly checkup. And then we didn't even realize it was two different doctors.
And so we were talking to and the woman didn't realize either.
She was like, nice to see you, guys, and she looked almost similar to the doctor we had seen a month before.
So we were kind of like, nice to see you, and the city's.
Like face changed and it was like halfway to the conversation before we were like we for sure.
Did not meet this woman We've never met. Yeah, but now.
We've had like the same lady two or three times in a row.
Comedy club parties have prepared you for that moment where you like, yeah, I enjoy your work.
Yeah right, and then.
You're like good, like looking at their Instagram. She does follow us on Instagram.
Now watch, which is awkward because like we're literally like saying foul stuff to each other.
Yeah, you know, she seemed to like it.
Just to catch everyone up if you don't know, Joe and Sarah famously roasted each other on Jeff Ross's Roast Battle. So you did not run any before at each other. We didn't, Okay, you did.
And it was yeah, it was a group effort and we had friends involved as well, and we just kept going over them so it would be tight. Because I had never done a roast battle before, so my first one was on TV and I do love them. It's just you don't get to work them out, and I can stutter and trip up on words that we wanted it to be smooth.
And you don't want to be surprised at a roast where Sarah says something that I'm like, well, I did not know that.
When you were writing. Was there anything that you were like, uh, not cool?
I think we both you know. I feel like as a comic, you're pretty self aware of where you stand, so I was comfortable throwing out I know they'll probably hit with this, this, this, and this, and the audience won't expect that we're cool with this that. It was just I felt like it was easy.
Yeah.
In fact, some people were like, how can you do that? Did it ruin anything in your relationship? And it was like it was the easiest thing we've ever done. It was a money grab.
As two comics that are married, I did not marry a comic purposefully, I will say, uh, but I am sort of interested in that dynamic between you two, Like I know that with a kid in the mix, you'll probably have to do a little bit more reshuffling who's going out of town where or how shows are going to be laid out. But when you are right now together, is there this idea like, hey, let's try to do shows together. Do you write together more often?
Joe and I don't write together. I just don't want other people involved in my process.
Right.
We're both kind of protective of our sets. Kind of in that way.
Yeah, we do work together a lot on the road, though we've gone on the road together for years.
And I remember talking to you briefly about it, fear about I just picture bringing, at least in the early years, swapping the baby while we're but you said you need a time.
You know, here's what I have to say if you're trying to do with a newborn. I mean, obviously not within the first little while, because you don't Oh god, the dirtiness of going into a common I can't even imagine what the news is disgusting, uh, and you're just going to be, you know, tired and on weird hours. So it's it's a little bit harder. But as you progress, you know, in the beginning, depending on you, on your newborn, most of them just sleep a lot. It Actually, it fucks with your brain because you're like, ha ha ha, I have the best baby in the world, and you're like no, no, no, you're just in this face and there's gonna be all these people that are like, my baby never slept. But anyway, there's a sleep sweet spot where they sleep a lot and during that time, I would totally say, if you're up for it to go do it. I just felt as things progressed. I keep comparing it to you know when people go scuba diving and then you go through a decompression chamber to like get yourself back to land. It's like I need that in between my parent life and my stage life. Yeah.
I don't even like it when somebody's talking to me right before I go up, right, that is probably something that I would deal with as well, of like I just need a moment to know that I'm about to do a show, not go from one to the other like a whiplash situation.
Like a whiplash situation. As much as I hate New York City subway, sometimes that subway ride would be my little I'd be like, this is my transition train.
Yeah, now.
Hitting this personality and going towards this personality, Isn't.
It the worst When you're like, I'm going home in a comic that you don't really talk to you that often is like, oh that's where I'm going, and you're like, oh, no, that's.
My vacation, and then you have to be like, oh, you know what, I left all my stuff back at the club.
I gotta get off.
I have never taken the cue before, but I must transfer to it. Yeah, okay, Joe, as you are thinking about, like, okay, I'm going to have a boy, what kind of little kid were you?
I was really quiet, painfully quiet, like send me the therapy.
He doesn't talk to anybody. Something's wrong with this kid?
Shy And yeah, I was a really scared and nervous sweet boy.
I was just I never spoke to anybody.
Well behaved.
Yeah, I was well behaved, got until I turned eighteen. Then I went crazy, became a wild vandal. But that's a whole other topic. But okay, yeah, so I was really and extremely jy. I'm hoping my son is happier than I was.
Did you go to therapy as a little kid.
I did.
I went when I was seven. I have all these Oh I should I should have pulled them up. I have all these great therapy notes from when I was seven years old that my mother just gave to me.
Really it's really crazy. It's like emotional for me to read.
But yeah, I was like really quiet, and I had like made up friends.
And it says, Joe, is I forget what the word they use?
Was like bizarrely afraid of aid and cancer, and all he talks about is death and graves.
I think because I was I.
Was born in eighty two, So I was a kid when Ryan White was have Do you remember Ryan White?
Yeah, that really messed with my head.
This kid like went to the doctor and got AIDS and he was like a little bit older than me. And so I became completely obsessed with eight and my parents didn't really explain to me that, like, as a seven year old boy, I'm not really high risk of good.
Nobody that would.
Have been good. Just like a blanket, It is not gonna happen to you. You do not have to worry about this.
Yeah, nobody.
And then you get older and you learn like how a's works, and I'm like, yeah, I wasn't gonna get that.
So, Sarah, you were born in South Africa. Where were you born in South Africa?
I was born in like a suburb outside of Johannesburg.
And how long did you live there?
My family immigrated to the States when I wasn't even a year old, so I don't have any identity to South Africa. I'm never like back in my homeland, like I've never I.
You know, I gotta throw that out on stage. I also know to you people.
Terrible, Well, I feel like I feel I'm more Texas than i am New York.
Like that has more of an identity to me than Big Times South Africa for sure. Now when you guys are thinking about you know, well, you know we're gonna have to move. For example, a lot of people leave the city going yeah we're thanking. Yeah yeah, I think, wait to move.
Yeah, Joe wants to get out.
I wanted to leave before we had a kid.
Yeah.
And I want my son to experience grass, the treasure, yeah, the treasure that is grass.
Yeah.
Like if if we put him on the ground and he topples over, his head doesn't break open because he lives exclusively on cement.
We'll get it soon, because soon it's going to be only rock and succulent gardens. Yeah, so run to walk.
Yeah you want a backyard, Yeah, you put a soccer net. Our backyard right now is shared with four or five other tenants and it's concrete. And then in New York too, you have even when you're outside, you still have to be mindful of people's living spaces. Like one time we were talking outside by a window in this for about twenty minutes, and this woman opened the window and she was like, can you leave?
Like my speech is getting in the way of your life. It's like, oh my.
God, I had I had a guy in the Upper West Side screen at me.
I was on the phone with my mother like a like a like a mom phone call where I was like, yeah, pretty good.
You know, yes, Sarah's here, and this guy came out and he's like, there's there'sn't your office get up.
And like I'm talking like, I mean, I don't know how you guys talk to your mom, but like I'm like this, uh huh yeah, sure, Like he acted like I was like, you know, recording a heavy metal album. I said to him. I was like, this might not be the city for you, this one little voice outside your apartment.
Yeah, and he's like, I'm fifth generation New York just like trying to reclaim it.
I was like, okay. But the other thing is too.
We live in Queens where there's an elevated subway, so we see people with strollers and the babies have like like cans like helicopter, Like we have to put ear protection on our baby to walk, And yeah, I just I don't I don't love that.
I am excited to hear from how everything goes down, but I want to just point out that, whether you can escape it or not, society treats moms and dads very differently. So I thought it'd be fun to give you a little sneak peek because we have a game for you. What I'm gonna do is I'm going to read a headline and you're just gonna tell me if it's from a media outlet targeted for dads or targeted for moms. Okay, Joe, this is for you. Five lessons that prove Dune is the greatest parenting book ever.
I gotta say that's that's gotta be for men.
That's that's pretty straight ahead. That's for dads. That's a great that's a real article. It's from Fatherly.
Okay, I mean, I don't. I'm not a Dune guy.
I'm not a big I do. I've never read or seen Dune, but I guess I gotta get on it.
Yeah. In the article written by Ryan Britt, who's great, but he talks about why this sci fi book is based better than any parenting book fantastic. Go all right, Sarah, the key I'm putting a blank in this for where mom or dad would go the key to being a calm blank no matter how you feel.
That's for moms because we're all crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.
That's from Motherfar from Home dot com. By the way, there is no way to be calm if you ask me.
Yeah, motherfar from Home dot com.
Yeah, that's a mother. That's like, here's how I am calm. I leave.
That is how I second.
That is how I had time to write this article. That is a four minute read. All right, Joe, what to do if your baby was dropped or fell off a bed or couch.
And this feels like it could be for either. That's good information for both. I'm gonna say this is for men.
Yes, it's for dads, because if if we're for women, there would be some shameful aspect to this headline. It's like how you can't tell anyone that your baby fell off the couch of the bed, but you're trying to figure out if it's okay.
Right, I have intrusive thoughts that that's the thing I'm worried about, is I'm going the fear of the baby dying in final destination moments.
Okay, well, I have an article for you. It's called what to Do if your baby was dropped or fell off a better couch.
You can read it now.
It's also in Fatherly. It's slated for men, but I think it'll be good for you.
What about dropping your phone on your kid's face? Doing that? I've heard that too, and then just fumble.
It, right, especially when you're breastfeeding. Not a big of a deal for you, Joe, unless there's some new technology I'm not aware of we're.
Working on, all right.
For Sarah, do I need to choose between my child and my passions?
That's mom?
I'm sorry, wrong, Dad, You never need to make a choice again, Okay. Society is going to tell you that if you have passions.
You're not doing it right.
You're bad mom. All right, you're bad mom? Oh dare you? That's for dads. It's from Esquire. All right, Joe? Can becoming a parent make you more efficient?
It is?
How do you know why?
Because I mean, it's just they need to be more efficient. These women, this is a.
Group of people try to park.
I mean, yeah, there you go. That is Mom's It's from Vogue, Sarah. Last one is for you. The article title is is it norovirus or shy jella? How to tell the difference.
I'm gonna say that's mom, because we deal with medical stuff.
Probably that's right. This is this for moms. Is from a site called Motherly. Uh, and of course that would be for moms. I think the way it's framed too that dads are only consulted if they are actual working medical professionals. Yeah, otherwise assumed that you are also the doctor.
Joe should be very verse and neurovirus. He had it once in a hotel and it was like he was kicking heroin the whole weekend.
No, it was wild.
Yeah, it was insane. It was the secondt I've ever been. I could stop crying. I was like pulling the shower curtain. I was like, don't look at me.
It was oh my gosh. Okay, well, look forward to canceling shows in the future. For different reasons.
I like forward to canceling plans though.
Oh yeah. The second I had my baby in my hands, I was like, you will be my excuse to get out of everything.
Yeah, we're not really party people always just go and touch the back of the wall and then I leave ill.
Thank you so much, Joe, Thank you, Sarah. Would you like people to follow you? Would you like people to go to your website? How do you like people to find where you're playing?
You can see me.
I'm at Joe List Comedy on Instagram and i have a new special August eighteenth on YouTube. My YouTube channel's got three special. This will be the third special on there, so go check me out on YouTube.
I'm on Instagram. You can just follow me on Instagram at stolash. It's my first initial with my last name, and that's my thing on every platform.
Smart all right, thank you so much. I'll see you guys soon. Live appreciate bye, Thank you so much. We really appreciate all of you. Anyone who's listened to one, ten or forty of our episodes, thank you so much. And we'll be back for season two soon better than ever. Until then, good luck surviving the beaches, the sand and the ticks, the beastings, the mosquitoes, the wildfires, and the s'mores. Don't miss our season two launch on September nineteenth. Subscribe to this podcast you don't miss a thing. Please also pass along to a friend if you think you know someone who would get a kick out of it. For updates and content, you can follow us on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook and parenting is a joke on Twitter, we are parenting joke. You can subscribe to our substack with new content every week. Just go to substack and search for parenting is a joke. Hey, do you want to come see me live? Because I've got a lot of summer dates. I Am going to be at the Vermont Comedy Club in Burlington, Vermont, on Friday August fourth for two shows seven thirty and nine thirty. Following weekend, I'm at the Comedy Addict in Bloomington, Indiana on Friday August eleventh and Saturday August twelfth. Plus in between all of that and after lots of dates in New York. You can follow me at Opira e on all the socials for updates, and you can go to my website Ofira Eisenberg dot com. Our episode is produced by me and Julie Smith Klem. Our editor is Nina Porzuki. Our sound designer is Tino Toby Mack. Our game writer is Emily Winter. Our theme song and music is by a deer Amram and the experience special thanks to all of the engineers at Citybox. I hope everyone has a great rest of their summer, and I'll leave you with my son's reflection of our recent beach vacation. Hey Lucas, Yeah, what was your favorite part of our beach vacation? Um? Mostly the TV? Just kidding? Okay, what what's not kidding? What's the real answer?
Probably the Big Wave beach and the arcade and how I just got an Asterix book.
Who gave you an Asterix book? Kevin? Who's Kevin?
Kevin the Tristan Showman. He blew Tristan conkshell at the beach every night. It was so cool. And next summer he even offered to give me lessons. Okay, that's all, Goodbye,
