It’s not lost on us that we are taking a more unique approach to the second Trump administration than many other creators. On today’s show, Sarah and Beth explain some of the thinking behind their approach - including why we want to make space for conversations like the next one on today’s show. We share a fabulous conversation with Jane Perlez about China - its economy, its use of surveillance techniques, and its potential future. Plus, it’s Valentine’s Day, so outside of politics, we’re talking romance!

Topics Discussed


Why We’re Talking About China


Jane Perlez on China’s Economy, Surveillance, and Future


Outside of Politics: Valentine’s Day and Romance

Visit our Substack page for complete show notes and episode resources.

It&rsquo;s not lost on us that we are taking a more unique approach to the second Trump administration than many other creators. On today&rsquo;s show, Sarah and Beth explain some of the thinking behind their approach - including why we want to make space for conversations like the next one on today&rsquo;s show. We share a fabulous conversation with Jane Perlez about China - its economy, its use of surveillance techniques, and its potential future. Plus, it&rsquo;s Valentine&rsquo;s Day, so outside of politics, we&rsquo;re talking romance!
Topics Discussed
<ul>
<li>
Why We&rsquo;re Talking About China
</li>
<li>
Jane Perlez on China&rsquo;s Economy, Surveillance, and Future
</li>
<li>
Outside of Politics: Valentine&rsquo;s Day and Romance
</li>
</ul>
Visit <a href="https://pantsuitpolitics.substack.com/s/podcast">our Substack page</a> for complete show notes and episode resources.

"Compelling and thoughtful listening" - the New York Times

Hosted by Kentuckians Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers, Pantsuit Politics is an independent podcast that takes a different approach to the news and culture. Pay attention without the anxiety. New episodes every Tuesday and Friday.

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"Compelling and thoughtful listening" - the New York Times
Hosted by Kentuckians Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers, Pantsuit Politics is an independent podcast that takes a different approach to the news and culture. Pay attention without the anxiety. New episodes every Tuesday and Friday.
Sales and Distribution by Lemonada Media <a href="https://lemonadamedia.com/" data-stringify-link="https://lemonadamedia.com/" data-sk="tooltip_parent">https://lemonadamedia.com/</a>

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