It’s not lost on us that we are taking a more unique approach to the second Trump administration than many other creators. On today’s show, Sarah and Beth explain some of the thinking behind their approach - including why we want to make space for conversations like the next one on today’s show. We share a fabulous conversation with Jane Perlez about China - its economy, its use of surveillance techniques, and its potential future. Plus, it’s Valentine’s Day, so outside of politics, we’re talking romance!

Topics Discussed


Why We’re Talking About China


Jane Perlez on China’s Economy, Surveillance, and Future


Outside of Politics: Valentine’s Day and Romance

Visit our Substack page for complete show notes and episode resources.

It&rsquo;s not lost on us that we are taking a more unique approach to the second Trump administration than many other creators. On today&rsquo;s show, Sarah and Beth explain some of the thinking behind their approach - including why we want to make space for conversations like the next one on today&rsquo;s show. We share a fabulous conversation with Jane Perlez about China - its economy, its use of surveillance techniques, and its potential future. Plus, it&rsquo;s Valentine&rsquo;s Day, so outside of politics, we&rsquo;re talking romance!
Topics Discussed
<ul>
<li>
Why We&rsquo;re Talking About China
</li>
<li>
Jane Perlez on China&rsquo;s Economy, Surveillance, and Future
</li>
<li>
Outside of Politics: Valentine&rsquo;s Day and Romance
</li>
</ul>
Visit <a href="https://pantsuitpolitics.substack.com/s/podcast">our Substack page</a> for complete show notes and episode resources.

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"Compelling and thoughtful listening" - the New York Times
Hosted by Kentuckians Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers, Pantsuit Politics is an independent podcast that takes a different approach to the news and culture. Pay attention without the anxiety. New episodes every Tuesday and Friday.
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On Trump, China, and Romance

As our team takes time off for the holidays, we are sharing the conversations Sarah and Beth had this year about Habits of the Heart. This third episode originally aired in September for our premium members on Substack.

Whether you’re also taking a well-deserved break, spending time with family, or just looking for something meaningful to listen to, we hope you’ll join us to revisit (or enjoy for the first time!) this thoughtful exploration from Sarah and Beth of this powerful, prescient book.

In this episode, they get into the different types of citizens laid out in the book, Beth’s dreaded “swooping,” the role of religion in public life, and what it truly means to care.

Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. 

As our team takes time off for the holidays, we are sharing the conversations Sarah and Beth had this year about Habits of the Heart. This third episode originally aired in September for our premium members on Substack.
Whether you&rsquo;re also taking a well-deserved break, spending time with family, or just looking for something meaningful to listen to, we hope you&rsquo;ll join us to revisit (or enjoy for the first time!) this thoughtful exploration from Sarah and Beth of this powerful, prescient book.
In this episode, they get into the different types of citizens laid out in the book, Beth&rsquo;s dreaded &ldquo;swooping,&rdquo; the role of religion in public life, and what it truly means to care.
Ready to go deeper? Visit <a href="http://www.pantsuitpoliticsshow.com">our website</a> for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, <a href="https://www.pantsuitpoliticsshow.com/subscribe">you can use this link</a> to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more.&nbsp;

Habits of the Heart: Part Two

As our team takes time off for the holidays, we are sharing the conversations Sarah and Beth had this year about Habits of the Heart. This second episode originally aired in May for our premium members on Substack.

Whether you’re also taking a well-deserved break, spending time with family, or just looking for something meaningful to listen to, we hope you’ll join us to revisit (or enjoy for the first time!) this thoughtful exploration from Sarah and Beth of this powerful, prescient book.

In this episode, they discuss the value of doing things in community, the social construct of marriage, the authors’ disdain for therapeutic culture, and the structures of friendship.

Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. 

As our team takes time off for the holidays, we are sharing the conversations Sarah and Beth had this year about Habits of the Heart. This second episode originally aired in May for our premium members on Substack.
Whether you&rsquo;re also taking a well-deserved break, spending time with family, or just looking for something meaningful to listen to, we hope you&rsquo;ll join us to revisit (or enjoy for the first time!) this thoughtful exploration from Sarah and Beth of this powerful, prescient book.
In this episode, they discuss the value of doing things in community, the social construct of marriage, the authors&rsquo; disdain for therapeutic culture, and the structures of friendship.
Ready to go deeper? Visit <a href="http://www.pantsuitpoliticsshow.com">our website</a> for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, <a href="https://www.pantsuitpoliticsshow.com/subscribe">you can use this link</a> to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more.&nbsp;

Habits of the Heart: Part One

As our team takes time off for the holidays, we are sharing the conversations Sarah and Beth had this year about Habits of the Heart. This first episode originally aired in February for our premium members on Substack.

Whether you’re also taking a well-deserved break, spending time with family, or just looking for something meaningful to listen to, we hope you’ll join us to revisit (or enjoy for the first time!) this thoughtful exploration from Sarah and Beth of this powerful, prescient book.

In this episode, they discuss the introductory, and imagine where the authors would push them, and investigate what the meaning of “the pursuit of happiness” was to the founders in comparison to how we define it now.

Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. 

As our team takes time off for the holidays, we are sharing the conversations Sarah and Beth had this year about Habits of the Heart. This first episode originally aired in February for our premium members on Substack.
Whether you&rsquo;re also taking a well-deserved break, spending time with family, or just looking for something meaningful to listen to, we hope you&rsquo;ll join us to revisit (or enjoy for the first time!) this thoughtful exploration from Sarah and Beth of this powerful, prescient book.
In this episode, they discuss the introductory, and imagine where the authors would push them, and investigate what the meaning of &ldquo;the pursuit of happiness&rdquo; was to the founders in comparison to how we define it now.
Ready to go deeper? Visit <a href="http://www.pantsuitpoliticsshow.com">our website</a> for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, <a href="https://www.pantsuitpoliticsshow.com/subscribe">you can use this link</a> to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more.&nbsp;

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