Sarah and Beth mark the fourth anniversary of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, examining the staggering human cost of the war, what it reveals about the changing nature of modern warfare, and whether America's military is prepared for the conflicts ahead. Outside of politics, they share their philosophies on high heels.

Topics Discussed:
Four Years into Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine
The Changing Nature of War
Outside of Politics: Listener Question: High Heels?

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Sarah and Beth mark the fourth anniversary of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, examining the staggering human cost of the war, what it reveals about the changing nature of modern warfare, and whether America's military is prepared for the conflicts ahead. Outside of politics, they share their philosophies on high heels.
Topics Discussed:
<ul>
<li>Four Years into Russia&rsquo;s Invasion of Ukraine</li>
<li>The Changing Nature of War</li>
<li>Outside of Politics: Listener Question: High Heels?</li>
</ul>
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Hosted by Kentuckians Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers, Pantsuit Politics is an independent podcast that takes a different approach to the news and culture. Pay attention without the anxiety. New episodes every Tuesday and Friday.

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"Compelling and thoughtful listening" - the New York Times
Hosted by Kentuckians Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers, Pantsuit Politics is an independent podcast that takes a different approach to the news and culture. Pay attention without the anxiety. New episodes every Tuesday and Friday.
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Are We Overmatched? Ukraine, China, and the Future of War

Sarah and Beth react to Trump's State of the Union address, Governor Abigail Spanberger's response, and what it all signals for 2028. Outside of politics, they turn inward and share their experience with Dan Pink's AI-powered self-reflection exercise.

Topics Discussed:
Trump’s State of the Union
Looking Ahead to 2028
Outside of Politics: Brutal Truths from AI

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Sarah and Beth react to Trump's State of the Union address, Governor Abigail Spanberger's response, and what it all signals for 2028. Outside of politics, they turn inward and share their experience with Dan Pink's AI-powered self-reflection exercise.
Topics Discussed:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Trump&rsquo;s State of the Union</li>
<li aria-level="1">Looking Ahead to 2028</li>
<li aria-level="1">Outside of Politics: Brutal Truths from AI</li>
</ul>
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Reacting to the SOTU, Spanberger's Response, and the Case for Rahm Emanuel

The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 that the International Emergency Economic Powers Act does not give President Trump the authority to impose sweeping global tariffs. Sarah and Beth discuss how the tariff case is just one piece of a bigger and more troubling economic picture: a weakening dollar, a bond market under pressure, and a private credit sector showing signs of serious stress. Plus, Beth has finally watched The Pitt, and she and Sarah make the case that an emergency room drama might be exactly what America needs right now.

Topics Discussed:


The Supreme Court says Trump’s Tariffs are Illegal


Economic Indicators are Changing


Outside of Politics: The Pitt

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The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 that the International Emergency Economic Powers Act does not give President Trump the authority to impose sweeping global tariffs. Sarah and Beth discuss how the tariff case is just one piece of a bigger and more troubling economic picture: a weakening dollar, a bond market under pressure, and a private credit sector showing signs of serious stress. Plus, Beth has finally watched&nbsp;The Pitt, and she and Sarah make the case that an emergency room drama might be exactly what America needs right now.
Topics Discussed:
<ul>
<li>
The Supreme Court says Trump&rsquo;s Tariffs are Illegal
</li>
<li>
Economic Indicators are Changing
</li>
<li>
Outside of Politics: The Pitt
</li>
</ul>
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Trouble's Coming: Tariffs, the Dollar, and Hidden Economic Risk

There’s a theme in today’s episode of holding the breath, which is something I’ve been doing about unrest and possible US military action in Iran. Sarah and I discuss reporting that the administration seems increasingly likely to take what they term “kinetic” action (and what Reps. Ro Khanna and Thomas Massie and Senators Tim Kaine and Rand Paul would call acts of war). 

Then there’s the way that our guest and friend Natalia Terfa describes holding her breath in Minneapolis. Even as Operation Metro Surge “winds down,” there are still agents and agitators. There is still fear and tension. There is damage left to repair after “it’s over,” and a sense that it’s not really over yet. We’re grateful to Natalia for her leadership on the ground and her willingness to discuss it with us today. 

We often talk about outside of politics as an exhale, and we hope it is today. We talk about our very-non-sports-y Winter Olympics takes, with a special shout out to all of you who participated in the Spice Cabinet Opening Ceremonies. 

If you’ve listened for a long time, you know that I love yoga. One of my favorite parts of a yoga class is taking a collective breath. It reminds me that we’re here. We’re alive, right now, and that’s its own form of miracle. It reminds me that we’re not alone. I hope this episode gives you that sense, too. -Beth 

Topics Discussed:
Unrest in Iran and Potential Military Action 
On the Ground in Minneapolis with Natalia Terfa
Outside of Politics: The Winter Olympics

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There&rsquo;s a theme in today&rsquo;s episode of holding the breath, which is something I&rsquo;ve been doing about unrest and possible US military action in Iran. Sarah and I discuss reporting that the administration seems increasingly likely to take what they term &ldquo;kinetic&rdquo; action (and what Reps. Ro Khanna and Thomas Massie and Senators Tim Kaine and Rand Paul would call acts of war).&nbsp;
Then there&rsquo;s the way that our guest and friend Natalia Terfa describes holding her breath in Minneapolis. Even as Operation Metro Surge &ldquo;winds down,&rdquo; there are still agents and agitators. There is still fear and tension. There is damage left to repair after &ldquo;it&rsquo;s over,&rdquo; and a sense that it&rsquo;s not really over yet. We&rsquo;re grateful to Natalia for her leadership on the ground and her willingness to discuss it with us today.&nbsp;
We often talk about outside of politics as an exhale, and we hope it is today. We talk about our very-non-sports-y Winter Olympics takes, with a special shout out to all of you who participated in the Spice Cabinet Opening Ceremonies.&nbsp;
If you&rsquo;ve listened for a long time, you know that I love yoga. One of my favorite parts of a yoga class is taking a collective breath. It reminds me that we&rsquo;re here. We&rsquo;re alive, right now, and that&rsquo;s its own form of miracle. It reminds me that we&rsquo;re not alone. I hope this episode gives you that sense, too. -Beth&nbsp;
Topics Discussed:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Unrest in Iran and Potential Military Action&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">On the Ground in Minneapolis with Natalia Terfa</li>
<li aria-level="1">Outside of Politics: The Winter Olympics</li>
</ul>
Ready to go deeper? Visit <a href="http://www.pantsuitpoliticsshow.com">our website</a> for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more.

Are We Overmatched? Ukraine, China, and the Future of War

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