Kate and Leisha talk snacks, haircuts, and why everyone cheats on TV.

This episode was originally produced by Melisa D. Monts and Diamond MPrint Productions and edited by Diane Kang. This rebroadcast has been re-edited for clarity.

PANTS with Kate Moennig and Leisha Hailey is produced and edited by Arwen Nicks.

Mixing by Valentino Rivera.

Our music is by Carol Parra @csssuxxx and our artwork is by Lovefoxxx.

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