Mike speaks with Tim Blair, Daily Telegraph columnist, about reports the Teal independents are considering forming an official political party to challenge the growing influence of One Nation and Pauline Hanson.

Blair says the Teals are positioning themselves as a “centre alternative” amid dissatisfaction with the Liberal Party of Australia, with former PM Malcolm Turnbull backing the idea.

He argues the move highlights a growing divide in Australian politics, contrasting what he describes as Teal-backed wealthy progressive voters focused on regulation and climate policy, against One Nation’s populist support base pushing back on immigration, cost-of-living pressures, and establishment politics.