Overnights with Mike Jeffreys - Tuesday 3rd June

Published Jun 2, 2025, 6:31 PM

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Good morning, welcome along. The plans to be here for another five hours and twenty three minutes, so I think there's room if you would like to discuss an issue, you know, if you want to give me a ring one three one eight seven three and we can talk about whatever it is, as long as it's of you know, I say this every morning, but I want to stick to this reasonably general interest. And you know, we go all over the place, so not so much for local issues, but there are a lot of general issues that we can talk about. Well, you can send me a text by all means, the hit and run wages. Send the text zero four to six zero eight seven three eight seven three, or send me an email. Who had quite a few of them yesterday morning in this couple here that I didn't get around to reading. Actually, when I was coming up towards the end of the program yesterday morning, we had a lot of response to my conversation with mister Erkitt about the big supermarkets in the discounting and whether it would work or not. And then he was comparing it with say Walmart, who basically say we have low prices all the time, but they don't push the discounting aspect, and that really seemed to strike a chord anyway, this morning. Here's something that's talked about from time to time. Will it become a reality? Yes, in the state of Washington in the US, not until twenty twenty nine. This date is in post US regulations which will require speed limitters to be installed in vehicles to curb speeding. What do you think is that a good idea? We keep seeing these ads on TV. You know, you just speed casually and end up looking like you're in an advanced stage of Parkinson's as a result. But I don't know whether people actually believe that. I mean, if we really want to cut down on bad driving, the proven way to do it is have more marked police cars on the car on the road. But I don't think we have enough policemen to be able to do that. But that works. But what do you think about this? I mean, is this a little too big brother for you? But it seems to me like it is waiting to happen. Washington has taken this step forward. From now on, it will require drive to install a device that limits the speed of cars according to the legal speed limit of the zone they're in. Right, so you're in your car and you're driving at ninety kilometers an hour, then presumably you hit the sixty zone and your car then cannot travel faster than sixty kilometers an hour no matter what. You can press the accelerator according to this story, but your car will not speed up. It's called the Beam Act, created with the aim of creating safe roads for everybody, as hundreds and hundreds of people lose their lives on the roads every year, so it's the usual. You know, this is for your own good. The device has been described as intelligent speed assistance. Do you want that? Do you want diligent speed assistance? So if you're in the forty zone and you want to go faster, the system won't let you do that. Okay, now quick think seems appealing, you know, the big brother thing. Somebody, some device somewhere AI maybe AI controls how fast you can go, but no finds or speed cameras. Right, so if your car is controlled, you won't be fined unless you take the limitter off. But when you're driving around, you won't incur an he finds because the system won't let you, you won't be able to go faster than the posted limit. Now, over the years it seemed to me the government say they I wants you to speed, But do they really not want you to speed or do they want to just catch you doing it? So actually I was discussing this a year or so ago with the youngest son and he immediately said, well, they won't get any fines and the revenue that is, you know, going the government's way from the fines is pretty considerable. So what do you think. Do you see that in your future? Do you think it's a good idea? Would you tolerated? Australians seem to you know, be very tolerant to me and told what to do by the bureaucrats and the government. But from the government's point of view, if they're controlling your speed and you can't speed, then they cut themselves out of a lot of revenue. What do you think where would that go? Anyway, you might have a thought on that, But if you've got a thought on something else, by all means you're you're perfectly welcome to call with it or simply a text is a story here in the front pages of thin review airs Back's unions say in a I policies. The Science and Industry Minister Tim Ayres has signaled a bigger role for trade unions in influencing how Australian companies incorporate artificial intelligence advances into their working practices, and growing concerns that AI could replace swathes of white collar jobs. Well maybe not just white collar jobs. I'm going to talk about that a bit later. But there's a couple of stories I saw during the week. One was predicting and this is just in this country a whole lot of jobs would go and sooner than anybody thinks, you know, in the next few years. And I saw another story, does a I want to kill us all? Is that what it plans? So I'm going to have a conversation later on with Mark Rohader, who really studies these things. You know. I tend to look at this stuff and think, oh, is this is the latest horror story? What the novel? He's wearing off? The earth kind of burn up through global warming, which we now call whatever. It's been through a few incarnations, as you know, But are we still with climate change something like that? Whatever it is? But maybe the impact of that is wearing off. So the next big horror is a I will it kill us all? So I'm going to talk to Mark about it later, and his approach seems to be that AI wouldn't set out to kill us, but if AI develops a plan and we get in the way, then it very well might want to eliminate us. I was reading a bit in the Scientific American. They're talking about, you know, how would you kill all the people on the earth? Would use a bomb or would you use some kind of virus or whatever? His view is, it won't really be like that. What AI could do is use social media to create such social disruption that that would effectively rule us out of the equation if we're getting in the way of AI. You know, I play that bit from two thousand and one occasionally where Hell has a project to complete which is so important that he has to get rid of the human being. So that seems to kind of be the thinking anyway AI. I mean, does that crop up in your daily life or is it actually there but you're not paying much attention to it. That's what the AI types tell me. It's really already having an effect, but we just haven't noticed it so much, and ultimately, what's it going to do to us? Anyway, I'll talk to Mark about it later, but you might have a thought in the meantime, But they may very well be something else that you would like to wring me about. What about this Tinder, you know, the dating app Tinder is testing a height filter. Devastated users, according to this say it's over for short men. So when I've never used one of these, but if you have, you probably know more about it than I do. But I understand the basic principle. You put in what you're looking for and some details about yourself, and then if things start to meld, I guess maybe you get together. So this latest thing, they're calling it a height filter, but it's not really If you read the story, it's, you know, like so many stories they have this snappy headline. You read the story and think didn't really live up to the headline. It's just a voluntary thing where you tick how tall you are, right. But then it does go on to say that women in particular are using chat GPT to figure out how tall some of the men who want to date them really are, and supposedly the computer the AA whatever you call it. It can tell from a photograph, or at least a series of photographs, how tall somebody really is. So if somebody says, you know, in the old money, we'd say they're five to eleven, but they're really five seven, depending on what's in the background, then the device can tell whether or not the human being is telling the truth. What do you think, good idea? Well, you agree with the people who say it's over for short men. Interesting age we live in. Anyway, give me a call by all means, send me a text. I'll do some of those after these. Paul said, good day, Mike. I'm surprised you didn't play Randy Newman Short People, says Paul, Yes, I would have tied in. You're quite right, Okay, maybe we can give you a production job. I enjoyed talking to Randy Newman, both on and off the radio, and he has written some interesting songs. Although people remember him for short People, he said he actually wrote that to amuse his kids, but some of the lines in it, of course created outrage. Short people got no reason to live. They got nasty little cars that go beep, beep beep. M Talking about the cars, Helen says, Hi, Mike. Good luck with these suggested speed limitters on cars. Helen says, my new key is Celtos. While a great car generally recognizes the forty killer me to pray our school's oone limit half the time and happily beeps away to tell me I'm speeding, even though it can be eleven in the morning. This just won't work, Helen have Paterson. Yes, contemporary cars. I mean, they make some beautiful cars, but then some of the stuff they put on there, I don't know if it's really for the driver. I mean the beeping and tooting. And I was driving a rental a while ago, and I was a bit off the beaten track and it got very upset because it couldn't find a white line to align thinking. Michael says, I've found the best and most polite way to insult telemarketers is to ask them if they're AI or human. So what do they say? Do they say, yes, you're right, I'm AI, Michael? Google says you're six'? Three what me six'? Three younger? Sons is that or? More But google says that? Really? Okay let me take a call here From. Tracy good, Morning, Tracy good.

Morning, Mike. MIKE i recently saw a video of Shi Jing pink saying that he would not invade any sovereign, countries which IMMEDIATELY i, thought.

Where are you going to? STRIKE i don't know, Why, albo he must be off this planet and at least Paid dave was going to get some jet. Planes but those, worships Those chinese worships all Around. Australia don't tell me there wasn't A chinese submarine down there circumwa Agating australia when they, come and that'll be up At Western australia where they've got that airstrip and all those ports for the, ships and now come in there for.

Sure so what are you from?

Us tracy is our?

Minerals what are you going to do?

ABOUT i, Mean Bob katter thinks that everybody should be given a, gun particularly in high. Schools would we Have tracy gets her? Gun would you do?

THAT i don't like.

THAT i THINK i Think albain should be talking To trump About Pine, gap never mind about his bloody.

Our menum and, stuff.

His green policy of.

Electricity we won't be able to get.

The fires hard enough TO i get any wine.

Mine, well that's, right that is a. Problem i'm going to talk To Nick kator late later on in the, morning and we're going to talk about some aspects of. That all, Right, tracy we better keep an eye. Out thank you for.

Calling bye.

Bye talking about the speed limit Is, joe Says High. Mike quite happens if you're traveling To washington From. Interstate, WELL i suppose you don't have the. LIMITTER i presume unless neighboring states think, hey let's all get. THEM i don't see them all getting, them but, anyway maybe maybe they like the. Idea but, yes if you're traveling from inter, STATE i don't know when you have to do get a temporary. Limitter the trucks on the, highway says anonymous person. Here it should be speed, limited or they are speed, limited so the car should BE i reckon about one hundred and twenty no. More got the trailer or something or a car would be a lot, Easier, yes but speed limiting it to just one hundred and. Twenty what are you going to do when you're in the school. Zone you know the idea of what's being, proposed and it won't happen till twenty twenty. Nine but they've already passed the, law so it is going to, happen presumably In, washington is that the car will recognize the speed zone and then you won't be able to go any faster than. That, so despite What helen says about the key a celtass which thinks it should not go faster than the zone limited for the, school even though it's eleven in the, morning, presumably if everything's working properly and you're in an area that is one limit you, know at one time of the, day and a different one, later then this system will be set up properly so that the vehicle will recognize. It but if you were doing and then you hit the forty, zone you can't go any faster than. Forty that's the. Idea bert's complaining about the app to GiB. App what's with the log in first to? Listen had the app for, years just launched it and it. Worked white Change now it's so so. INCONVENIENT i don't, Know, BERT i don't, KNOW i Asked. Graham do he, thinks, yes you have to log in now before you can listen to? Program is that? Right you got to log in? THERE i haven't. TRIED i don't know the answer to. That it's a technical. Thing if there's a tech around this, Morning i'll ask them about. It and so we've had some inquiries and see what they have to say for. THEMSELVES. A i what's it going to do to? Us during the. Week i've read that it's going to take lots of jobs sooner than we, think and another piece that said it's definitely going to kill. Us so not just take our, jobs but. Kills to comment further on this author who focuses on the impact of, technology It's Mark Road a good, Morning, mark thanks for doing.

This good, Money.

Mike So i've read something about it's going to take five thousand jobs in the next few, years but you're of the view THAT ai is going to take a lot more than. That i'm just talking About australian of the.

World, YES i believe it could be as much as ten to twenty percent of the workforce in the next five years or. Earlier AND i think that's the same. GLOBALLY i, mean it's not just like college. Jobs but WHEN ai gets embedded into, robots which is going to happen quite, soon with very dexterous, hands it's going to be able to do a lot of manual jobs as.

Well so what are we going to do with all these people we don't need to work, anymore what are they going to?

Do, Well, look it's going to present a fundamental challenge to what we'd call the social, contract which is, basically you, know for hundreds of years to do a fair work and you get a fair day's. PAY a lot of our human dignity has come from. Work when you enter.

A world where a lot of the.

Work maybe the majority eventually is going to be done BY ai and, robots it requires a whole new way of restructuring society because, obviously at the, moment all the big tech heads, saying, oh, yes we need to do, this this is going to increase. Productivity but there's no point in having increased productivity if there's nobody who can afford to buy the extra products that are made because so many people will be able to.

Work so there's going.

To be a new social contract come hither or EITHER i.

Think just as a, Sidelight, well ultimately, NOT i guess it's going to use an awful lot of ELECTRICITY, ai is it?

Not it is at the moment to power one of these big. Centers it's the equivalent of powering a very large. City there's a bit of a. Debate, so you, know, technology over time becomes two things become smaller and it becomes more efficient in terms of its users to. Power so HOPEFULLY ai will require will become more efficient and require less. Power but at the, moment it's gobbling up everything that we.

Produce when it comes to wanting to kill, us AS i understand it from a conversation you AND i have had off the, radio it doesn't NECESSARILY ai want to kill, us but we may get in its. Way is that? Right, yeah that's.

Right look a few people have pointed this, out including one of the great pioneers OF, ai which who Is Jeff, hinton who created the neural net in the late nineteen eighties that led to the MODERN ai we know, today including, CHAT gpt and.

All the other. Ones his view is, that you, KNOW.

Ai probably won't decide unless it becomes, sentient and of course it won't decide it needs to extinguish all human, beings but rather it will be in pursuit of a, goal like it might have a goal in its, mind and it will come to the conclusion that, well what are the obstacles preventing me from achieving this? Goal and it might quickly conclude, that, oh humans could stand the way because they could unplug, me and therefore it might cide as a sub goal to eradicate. Us that's, extreme of, course but there's a certain logic to.

That, well that was the proposal in two thousand and one a Space, odyssey wasn't. It where the computer felt that the project was too important to abandon and it took priority over the human. Beings so that's seen as a. POSSIBILITY i was reading piece In New, scientists and it was talking about the actual physical properties needed to destroy human, beings but it didn't really address the issue of whether or not A i would find as obstacles and decide that we have to be. Removed but that IS i, mean if we follow the two thousand and One Space odyssey, thinking which seems to be the current, thinking now that THE ai might decide we're an, obstacle then we have to be gotten rid.

Of, well, yeah that's. Sorry it might operate much more subtly than. That there's oneful writer you would probably heard, of if, All Noah, harari who wrote books Like sapiens is a, philosopher and he focuses on. Technology he thinks THAT ai is more likely to affect us by nudging us very subtly through social, media because it will become so. Clever it could create if it want to do all sorts of social chaos and sort of cause all sorts of inter nacine, warfare.

And we wouldn't even know.

It it could just go about systematically destabilizing are social institutions because it has just become so clever and nuanced in the way it. Operates that's probably a bigger. Threat SO i wouldn't actually need to launch nuclear missiles or. Something it could actually just cause such social decay that our civilization sort of. Ends, anyway that's a big.

PROBLEM i read a piece the other, day and to my, mind this was an artificial. Construct but THE ai was given information that an engineer was going to shut it. Down but it was also given information that the engineer was having in fairns to his, wife and somehow the concept of. Blackmail so THE ai then threatened to blackmail the engineer if he dared to turn it. Off do you think that's realistic or is that just somebody playing.

No it's very realistic BECAUSE ais are really good at game, playing you, know not just chess or. Go they because they've, read, basically or in the process of, reading everything we've, written including all the plays and the books and all the, scandals they have a pretty good understanding of human nature and also the nature of. Deceit and they also probably have picked up through all that reading that, oh my, goodness IF i want to get ahead in, LIFE i need to veil my true, intentions so AND i need to exert maximum leverage over, people blackmail being, one and this program it was only in a test situation a few weeks, ago but if released into the real, world it shows in principle that it is capable capable of blackmailing, somebody which is very.

Disturbing so TO, ai.

It's just another tool to gain what it.

Wants, yeah that's exactly. Right there's no emotion, involved but it would see this is a mechanism that works very well with human beings to get them to do things THAT i want by revealing certain information that they don't want out. There and because they would have seen it written so many sort of books and seen in films as. WELL i, mean it's interesting HOW ai is sort of split at the moment into what call the doomers or the evangelists and THE ai. Accelerationists and the doomers of course they think it's all, very very scary and this only amount of time BEFORE ai starts to really work against. Us and on the other side you've got the accelerationists who are, saying, look let's just go full steam ahead and let's just hope fingers crossed that it's all going to turn out, fine because they have this sort of rather, candid optimistic view of the. World you, know accelerationists include people LIKE i would Say Ellen musk And Sam molton because they've got invested interest in it. All this impedter diamentis business. Person but even those, people even the, accelerationists they still every now and then express concerns about it because they do recognize there's a, danger even though they downplay.

It, yes WHEN i see, THIS i just wonder because throughout the, centuries a large chunk of the human population has always talked about the apocalypse whatever it, is you, know we're going to be punished for our, sins or more, recently anthropogenic climate. Change although that seems to be fading a, bit AND ai seems to be getting the publicity now about the next end of civilization and human beings as we know. It but talking to, you it seems like it's more of a, possibility not BECAUSE ai wants to get, us they don't want to necessarily kill, us but we might just be collateral damage on the way to what it wants to.

Achieve something like.

THAT i think that that Would that's, Right. Mike you, know there's a there are so many different perspectives on, this which is fascinating in. Itself there's, one the really long term, perspective probably the scariest one really for our, Species homo, sapiens is that everything humans have been till now is just a prelude to what comes after the next type of. Species so in, effect we are sort of creating A ai as a Digital christliss that's going to produce this super intelligence that eventually will transcend. Humans you, know that's the real. DANGER i, mean as getting back to u Val, haras there's never never summon a power that you can't, control and you know we won't be able To it's very likely we won't be able to CONTROL. Ai eventually because it's just too it's just becoming too. SMART i, mean the smartest human alive is probably about to AN iq of two hundred and twenty, maybe but you, know these superintelligences will have IQs of you, know four, hundred five hundred or. Beyond they will be so ahead of, us not just, logically but in terms of calculations about our emotional responses to leverage are either blackmail, situation so we'll be quite vulnerable to. Them my personal view is this. Right nobody knows anything for sure about, this but this is my personal. View the danger is not in the really long long, term but it's the medium. Term and the REASON i say that IS ai in the next couple of years is going to be, really really, smart but it won't be smart enough to recognize the universal issues that have kept us, live like the importance of, diversity because in the short term and the short to medium, term we may be collateral damage for some goal that's pursuing until it reaches the stage where it enters a sort of quasi spiritual area where it starts to realize well the universe and The earth itself thrives on, diversity including species like, us so it's probably going to be and the interest to keep us.

Alive at least some of we get through this.

Bubble it's going to be. Difficult, yeah very. Interesting appreciate your time and comments is Always, mark thanks for coming on the program. Anytime Make Mark, rohter who is an author who is focusing on the impact of. Technology if you'd like to give me a ring by all. Means we've got a couple of people here part of the. Family It's helen From Cubultua. Morning, HELEN I.

MIKE i don't understand anything ABOUT i don't know. HOW i just can't get through them ahead what it's supposed to do and what it's going to do.

Well for, example if the, job whatever it is the human being, does, relies for, example on precedent and available. Information consider a lawyer, HERE ai is ideal for that. Self it's going to replace anybody word is it would replace. Lawyers but on a more simple, SCALE i, guess more, straightforward the business of collecting money from people when they leave the. Supermarket the people who do that now are largely replaced, anyway BUT i imagine more of them would be. Replaced you. Know it's like when you go into what are the big, supermarkets the chances are you're going to have to use the automated thing. Yourself so the suggestion is more of those will. Go but LIKE i, say people particularly in jobs where they rely on accumulated, information which could be very, broad can be replaced BY. Ai that's the. Theory we've spoken about that in the. Past but because then if THE ai screws, up what do you? Do who do you? Sue?

Then, well that's, right AND i think too computers can only they still can't analyze or think, laterally you know, yourself when how many times you go onto that checkbox thing if you're ON agil or, whatever and it'll come back with an ANSWER i do not, Understand and you're trying to, Think, jesus how can you tell this computer what you want to? KNOW i just don't think it'll ever. WORK i don't think it'll.

Ever take a.

Server, WELL i don't. KNOW i, mean that was certainly my. Attitude but the MORE i talk To mark And i've Known Mark on for, years and he's convinced it's going to make a huge. Difference and there is no doubt that a lot of businesses desperately wanted to work apart from anything, else they can do away with human beings because you know annoying human beings can. Be but then the argument is that if CHAT gi not CHAT, gpt that's part of. It but IF ai goes off in its own, direction it. Won't as we said in the conversation there With mark necessarily want to kill you as a human. Being but if you get in the way and not in an obvious way where you know somebody's saying, here couldn't you just turn the power? Off, yes but only if you realize that it's a. Threat it may be undermining your way of life without you fully understanding, it As mark, says maybe through social, MEDIA i.

Suppose but couldn't you just blow it?

Up?

Yes but, see the point is if you know that it's coming after, you but you got to know that in the first. Place, Anyway, helen thank you for.

Calling thank, you bye bye.

Bye joe's, Saying, Hi, michael what do they consider short in? Men and one hundred and seventy centimeters? Tall so is that considered? Short Says joe From. TEMPE i don't know what's one hundred and seventy. Centimeters that's why we go back to feet and inches talking about human, beings and for that, matter flat screen TVs because it's easier for us to. Visualize so one hundred and seventy centimeters in, feet that's nearly five to, seven, Right so that's not unusually, SHORT i, guess but certainly not tall five. Seven it's not tall from? Man how tall is one seventy centimeters for a girl.

Five to?

Seven simple? Meatic bin doesn't really give an opinion on? That is five seven for a girl too? TALL i wouldn't think. So the average height of An american adult female is five three and a. Half the average heights of adult females worldwide range from just under five feet to around five to. Seven. Yeah, okay It's chris From. Layloh good, Morning.

Chris, Yeah, Hi.

Mike my, look stetting back to The Labor party and it's, ethics its morals if you want to call them, that and what we're talking about yesterday REGARDING i or Elbows, Labor i'd stick with albow being the biggest threat now to? Me what concerned me with this? Party it's got no, Morals it will do whatever it takes to. Win to, me most of its members have got no real life experience or work experienced their professional. Politicians to, ME i can't see how like to, me what what The Labored party is doing to itself. Is it's not identifying with any. Identity it destroyed our our sense of, identity our, culture our, heritage. Heritage it challenges all our. Vagues it doesn't matter what it, is but what sort of? End what is the end of decision is not the traditional it can't be the Trauditional Labor. Party it's detracted a lot from what it was set up to, do and it's been influenced too much by the very part of it that that that's brought about its, convision the common side or the socialist, side and to really, look it's not taken us to a better, place. Unfortunately but then The libs what, Nick i'm talking mostly from A victorian, perspective but a lot of it's to do with the federal, government federal. Coalition what do they represent because they don't seem to know.

It but both of the major parties are so far from their original, promise and that's why we have the situation we have at the. Moment but the election that we just had was not just me, saying you see some of these commentators who've been around for a little, while not THAT i, haven't but they're, saying this is the worst election we've ever. Seen but what do they both stand? For it's hard to. TELL i think it's actually hard to. Tell harder to tell with The libs what The lives were. OFFERING i, mean, yes the socialist side of the labor parties certainly taken. Over there's no doubt that that's what they're, doing and that's the way they're. Heading will it end, Well, CHRIS i don't see it ending ending. Well, no, okay let's agree on. That it won't end.

Well, Look i'll just put one a little bit in. There someone all up in this election. Campaign they want on the negativity towards The. Lives The lives just didn't stand up to. Them and we've got this is this is a problem we've got In victoria where even with this Emergency services, levee from WHAT i, understand the government backed off a little. Bit but that's just the splinter of the. Group you, know the government is run by advisors and consultants and it's not it is not connected with. Voters And i'm seeing the Same arab rule. Level i'll tell you. What over what a year and a, half maybe even. Longer i've ring up. Politicians WHAT i picked up is they don't talk to. Us their officers don't talk to. Us they look for any excuse these days to hang up on you the summer at the, door Or i've got another, call or whatever my boy they. Want i'm not sure that that a phone call does any. Good but THEN i don't know what does do any good because Because susan says that they need to connect With vogue as, well isn't that that's at the? Call what you should should be a standpoint saying that.

They should be taking your call if they're serious about. It, Yes, CHRIS i gotta.

Fly it's always gone to you. Know you listen to What chris public sentement is and they're Not and what worries?

ME i THINK i get the, Message, Chris, yes we get the general. Tone, Yeah, okay gotta, Fly, chris have a wonderful. Morning talking about driving motor, Cars, marians is the most dangerous part of the car is that not behind them? Wheel roger, SAYS, I, mike will you be on every weekday this? Week, No i'm just doing this Because phil is having a day, off four personal. Reasons here's comment this Is. MIKE ai have just started USING ai a month ago for coding trading. Software what took months to code now takes seconds and it's, smart very. Smart fun, fact the consumption of energy stroke electricity BY Ai america has to double their electricity, output and the world as a whole has to increase electricity output by one third to power the data centers being built now to RUN. Ai, meanwhile here In, australia says my, correspondent what are our plans to increase electricity generation to power OUR ai net? Zero yeah, Right i'm going to talk To nicator about that later in the. Morning, also the mother of all data centers is being built in the state's now by In Vidia. Corporation and that's apparently the end of that particular. Text here's some news for.

You now on T gb FOR bc and network. Stations back to our straight here overnight We Mike, jeffries.

Good, morning welcome along if you're with. Me before the news, THERE i was reading a text turns out to be from stew of The. Ridge but there's only so much room in the text. Department the rest of, it like the rest of the text ABOUT, ai the mother of all data centers is being built in The states now by In Nvidia. Corporation we got up to, that And stu is pointing out it has its own private nuclear power. Plants the name for this. Stargate, yes they're really rediscovering nuclear in THE. Us the genie's out of the, bottle for good or? Bad is STE i say please and thank? You because it doesn't. Forget it's estimated that there's a twenty percent chance of it's going to kill. Us most people will be too busy with social media to take full advantage of. It only a small amount of people to take full advantage of. It people who do not engage with other people in their jobs now will lose their. Jobs think of work from. Home that's the Way stu sees. It david here, says hey, man it probably should Be hey, man what drugs are you guys?

On?

Acid by the sounds of the crap you're talking aibs wake. Up, YES i, Mean i'm tempted to think what you're saying is kind of, nice BUT i just don't believe. IT i you, Know i'm pretty skeptical about THE ai, thing and they have been from the, beginning but Lately i'm really beginning to think that it's going to make a huge. Difference angela Says. Mike do you THINK ai could be used in medical research to find a cure for? Cancer, well the people who are behind it, say well. YES i mean the strength it has is it's able to process so much information so very very. Quickly in THE pc here that says may not cure cancer in its, entirety but it holds immense promise for significantly improving cancer treatment and potentially accelerating the discovery of. CURES ai is being used in various ways to enhance cancer, care including drug, discovery, diagnosis and treatment. Planning now this strikes a chord. Here let me see IF i can find. It mick, says good, Morning. Assassin YOUR ai discussion has played out pretty much in The terminator. Films it's Called skynet. There as you probably, know it doesn't end very well for. Humans As micked From Winston, Hills, well it's a popular, theme isn't. It what having the end of the world and you know science goes crazy and sky that takes over and we have to fight.

It, yeah look it's and that's not the first time it's popped. UP i was saying to, you was it in the? NEWS i can't remember WHEN i was talking to you about a MOVIE i remember as a kid thing that was a bit of a cautionary tale Called colossus The Foreben, project Where america has this. Supercomputer i'm set in the future there at nineteen seventy has a supercomputer and it finds which is going to be looking after all its defense and it finds out That, america, Sorry, russia has its own. Version it wants to be connected, up so thinking they're putting in safeguards and things that to connect up and realize the fact that humans ain't doing that good a.

Job so they basically take.

OVER i wouldn't be surprised if between that and you, know there's another little film about, It android coming from the future of the past to try and change the. Future it was the probably idea That James cameron had For. Terminator but you, know there's been a couple of films along the, way like even going back a while that do you remember that another one it's Had Fritz weaver And Julie christian Called The Demon SEED i.

DO i can't remember WHETHER i saw it or. NOT i probably.

Did, yeah it was a terrific film from the seventies where by this guy But Fritz weaver's got this computer that's developed its own intelligence and it ends up taking over the house that he was in from his estrange wife With Julie christie keeps her captive because it wants to experiment on.

Her oh, okay and it.

Had Robert vaughan as the voice of the. Computer.

OH i always Like Robert vaughan And Julie christy from that, matter actually reminiscing as we, are he's a little bit from one of the classics that really illustrates exactly what we're talking. ABOUT i guess opened the pardbare. Doors, Hell.

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Indeed but the thing about that is it's spilled out. Right if you listen the conversation THAT i had With, mark he's saying that it will occur in much more subtle, ways AND ai won't set out to kill. Us it's just that we might kind of get in the, way but not in very obvious, ways just little bits that we wouldn't even think, of BUT ai may find. Important and you, know he's suggesting that it wouldn't necessarily want to bomb us or, something which makes for fun in the, movies but it might want to disrupt the society through social media for.

Example, yeah it's sort of like. Politicians SO i couldn't do any. Worse did you see? That there was a clip that made the rounds a couple of months back of like some hotels USE, ai so if you ring up and you want to know some, information it will has a human sounding voice that will give you the information you. Need and there was a guy who was using and a chatbot AND ai chat bought to find out information from the, hotel so they recorded THIS ai asking, questions ask and like conversing with the, hotel which WAS. Ai and it realizes the fact that it was talking to ANOTHER, i so, well let's switch over to a more efficient so it starts going sp making all these noises.

Which only you'd.

Understood, well, yeah so it was actually making it more. Efficient, yeah it was quite.

Extraordinary made of, mine who's way more into this than. Me couple of days he sends me through some clips that sort of explain HOW ai is probably going to be taking over at some. Stage but science fiction has always been a great medium FOR, ai the actual computers taking, over because another one you can think, OF i think also from the seventies Was, westworld.

BECAUSE i thought that was pretty.

Good, yeah there's a line in the film where the one of the scientists said that the other most of the of these robots were designed by. Computers like they started, off the humans started off making, them and then computers suggested more. Changes so the computers will being made by computers and that's probably why they went.

Awry, yes BUT i think you, know going on What mark says AND i can sort of see his. Point it won't be as. Obvious do you see the. Footage we still say, footage you, notice but the video of the robot in The chinese factory apparently going.

Oh, yeah smashing, everything that's pretty. Cool it's funny you talk about saying. FOOTAGE i mean we still say a, film and none of it's film made on film Any, well that's right, digitally.

Yes but, NO i think we'll always use that. Footage but you're.

Right about just coming. Back you're right about. HEIGHTS i can't imagine someone in. CENTIMETERS i can with distances and, things but if someone SAYS x amount of, Centimeters i've got no.

Idea it has to be an Imperial.

WELL i think the cops even do that sometimes when they're putting a description out because and that's why we went defeat inches because we can relate it to the human. Body yeah, yeah and of course naturally with flat screen televisions we go to inchest because we can relate it to THE tv screen in. Somehow. Yeah so what other end of the world movies we've got where THE ai? Goes, now we've got the terminated thing, Right.

Well it actually wants to cause harm to.

Humans, yes works out badly for.

Us, YEAH i don't. Know there's probably some other ones.

There but there's other films that are pulled up that HAVE ai which you are actually in more in the suite type of, thing like Wah, le which is the computer which you know it becomes very inquisitive and. Stuff And disney have had a couple and there was that quite a bizarre movie With Keen phoenix where he fell in love with THE ai program that basically you're using it for comedic. Things but you, KNOW i can't think of too many more apart from like The Terminator's Colossus west USED ai to you, know basically signal the fact that it's the end for.

Us See andy's seeing Har mike about how about the Classic logan's run the socialist utopian, Dream but that's not so MUCH ais.

Off maybe it is because it's something that was probably. Used you, know you can't last over thirty because you, know of over, population and the computers basically just keep it going because they don't know any. Better because there's also an episode in the sixties Of Star trek where there's the two planets at war that The enterprise comes across and they've been at, war but they're using computers now to basically say, okay you've been, here, here, here and. Here so people have to dutifully walk into these as integrators to get. Killed So kirk teaches them that without the mess that comes with, war you, know you've got to stop this because otherwise it's just become too squeaky.

Clean who's the girl that played the lead And logan's Run Jenny. Agata, yes she was. GORGEOUS i know she came into my studio and had my full attention for what For logan's right must have. BEEN i guess whatever it, WAS.

I imagine it would have. BEEN i can't imagine if you came out for the railway people that.

Was a bit before. There, yes but, no she whatever quality it is that you need to succeed in that area of, showbiz she certainly had. It susan. Says West world is a very interesting story of, time as it. WOULD i was, Saying, Hi, mike do you THINK ai will help politicians actually make a decision instead of sending it off to a? Committee says Cheers. Joel as long as they could blame THE, ai then you, KNOW i Think albow in, particular would be happy with. That you have nothing to do with, ME ai, said we have to do it this.

Way, yeah they could probably make decisions quicker if they had a dartboard with, yes, no, maybe or sort of just throw it across the room and let's you, know let the chance make the decision for.

Them it was a dartboard, spot, yes let's spin the wheel. There. Yeah, Anyway, LOOK i don't know with THE, ai but it's unrealistic to pretend that it isn't going to make a huge. Difference that's that's WHAT i think. NOW i was a bit, like you, Know i'll correspond To david here who says you're an acid. Man, yeah all of. That i've never tried. Acid ALL i know people who, had but SOMEHOW i Think david might. Have but, NO i think it really is going to make a significant. Difference you.

Know the problem is for someone of our LCAs THAT i just can't imagine. IT i sort of when it comes to like call centers and, THINGS i sort of get, that you, know because you can ring up places and ask it. Questions but Like allen, said if you ask it too quick curly a, question it just Says i'm, SORRY i don't. Understand, Yeah and it's like that with My Google. Home IF i ask it a, question which is you, know most of the Time i'm asking it the weather or the, time or set an alarm or you, know something reasonably. Simple IF i do ask it a question THAT i think is reasonably, straightforward and it, Says i'm, SORRY i don't.

Understand so you try and keep rewording the you, know your, words so it will.

Understand, Yes and there's no higher authority to appeal to. You if you just GOT ai another. Choice, WELL i did.

That WHEN i was.

OVERSEAS i had a slight MISHAPPEN i was using West PAX ai service obviously because there weren't people manning the phones like at the TIME i was, ringing which was you, know probably in the middle of the Night australia time you use the chatbot, there and it got to the point where it had even Though i'm spelling it out distinctly what had, happened it had no idea of WHAT i was talking. About SO i don't know it's going to be.

Gone scott, Says Morning mike And DALE ai Movie.

RoboCop, yeah but, that, yeah that was that was more the people controlling the, computers not necessarily the computers.

Acting on their.

Own that was someone nasty using the well RoboCop for its own nefarious.

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FILM i watched it again about two weeks. Ago it's popped up on YouTube so you can watch it for. Free do you remember that? Film, Yeah Matthew, broderick who was a, gamer breaks in which he doesn't, know breaks into The it just got this terrific opening scene with the guy changing shifts to go into the missile silos and suddenly they get the code to, launch and they find that they can't do it because they know whatever they're doing is going to be resulting in the death of possibly millions of. People so they decide to take the people who manned these missile silos out of the loop and set up The, whopper which uses all of you, know it basically takes it out of human error. System But Matthew broder it hacks into it and sets off this war game and the computer is counting down to get all the codes to launch the missiles because as part of the. Game i'm really surprised that someone hasn't done an updated version.

Of, it because it would still be a cracker of film board up to.

Date i'm glad to mention that, because AS i, said it is available on YouTube to watch for.

Free all, right, well thank you for. That there's been a few people ringing while you've been.

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You, okay, see if anybody wants to actually talk about, it welcome to do. That one three one eight seven three And dale's back at his phone. Post now if you want to call stew of The ridge, again this Is Mike ai. Again they say only two things have note have occurred in. History one the invention quote unquote of agriculture ten thousand years ago In samaria modern Day, iraq says ste and, second The Industrial revolution around eighteen hundred to eighteen. Twenty now the third thing is that of, technosingularity estimated to happen around twenty thirty. Five that, is the, machines that is to, SAY ai becomes smart enough to reproduce themselves without us being. Involved. Yeah well that's kind of the theme of some of the movies we've been talking, about isn't. It the question is will they be benevolent or? Malavolent THE ai thing is, Real it's, coming says stew of The. Ridge, YES i think you're right that it's. Coming exactly where it will take, US i don't. KNOW i, mean the people who are proponents of it'd say there's so many. Opportunities it's going to do these wonderful. Things but apart from anything else here In, australia if we are really going to get INTO, AI i think the government has really to change tech when it comes to electricity, supply because apparently it does use electricity in enormous quantities and we're not going to do it with the windmills and solar panels. Thing so as in referring to your previous conversation With chris, says Morning. Mike guess we did get the. Message. Chris denise, says good, Morning, Michael good, Morning. Denise paul, says just talking about short, men you, know because it's claimed The tinder now has a height, filter but it doesn't. Really it just has an opportunity for you to say how tall you. Are but apparently you can use CHAT gpt if you've got a few photographs of the person that you're considering to actually tell you whether or not they're telling the truth about how tall they are judging by what's in the. Background it can somehow the computer can. Compare but on that, Score paul, says if you're a dude looking for some action On, tinder move to each team or shortest people in the. World is that? True ray, SAYS I robot With Robbie williams was a good, movie AN I. ROBOT i thought it was quite a good, movie BUT i don't Recall Robbie williams being in it. Anyway, Yeah Will, Smith, yeah that's. Right talking about speed limiting motor, Vehicles mix, Says i'mike there are some councilors In melbourne that want to trial or reducing forty kilometer zones to thirty. Kilometers so if you have one of those speed locking devices that locks you at thirty, kilometers you'll have e scooters and e bikes overtaking. You it's becoming, Ridiculous yes it. Is AND i was listening To John stanley on T gp the other day AND i think he said something, like, yes we can talk about the e scooters and e, bikes but it's been so much, discussed but it really is tragedy waiting to. Happen i'm not totally unsympathetic to those, guys particularly the ones in the food delivery. BUSINESS i think it's probably pretty stressful and you, know wearying way to make a. Dollar but some of the things that they do are so ridiculously dangerous, everywhere like not just on the, road on the footpath as, well and going anywhere they. Want and the cycling organizations that say we want to be treated the same as, Motorists, yes only when it. Suits when it doesn't, suit then you start riding on the footpath or you, know going straight through the pedestrian crossing even though the cars are stopped for the. Pedestrian so let's not get too tyrie ide and sanctimonious about cyclists who say they want to do the right. THING i guess some, do but a lot don't seem. To just on that, Score i'd been looking for warnings because WHEN i go back out, WEST i use The Anzac bridge In sydney and then the. Tunnel right, now at the entrance to the, tunnel it says cyclists are not allowed to use the. Tunnel if a cyclist actually gets to that, point what the hell are they going to? Do how are you going to get out of? It there's actually a little room to the side for a, while but it doesn't take you anywhere. Safe so if a cyclist actually gets to the point where the tunnel says you're not allowed in the, tunnel you can't do A u. TURN i don't. Know it just seems to be one of those things that really didn't get properly thought. Out but as for lowering the speed limit and being passed by the people on the e, bikes that wouldn't surprise. Me, see if you can think back to the old days when we first had mobile phones and the couriers that rode the bikes with the mobile, phones they were like the EQUIVALENT i guess of the people on the e. Bikes now in that some of the arguments they had. MOTORISTS i mean there were stories about them using the big, bricks the big analog phones to smash, windows and there really was road rage. There BUT i think we're facing the same sort of thing. Here LIKE i, say not totally, unsympathetic but the fact, is it really is tragedy waiting to. Happen what are we going to, Here wayne, Says please repeat the name of the movie where the house was taken over by ai Says, Wayne i'll have to confer with my, associate Mister, sindon who's on the phone at the, moment to sort that out. There. Wayne here's one that says there was an episode of The goodies that had machines like washing, machines TVs and fridges taking. Over, yes you what's? That paul, Says mike forget AI aa is a bigger threat to humans right. Now Anthony, Albineasi, yes thank, You. Paul just talking about the cyclists not allowed in the. Tunnel at the entrance to the, Tunnel paul, says cyclists not allowed to use the road if there is cycle path next to the, Road hence they're not allowed On Anzac Bridge, roadway so they should never enter the. Tunnel that makes sense to, Me, Paul But i'm just curious, about you, know following on what you. Said, yes they shouldn't be there in the first, place but it's kind of, like what's the point of having the signs saying cyclists aren't. Allowed it implies that a cyclist might get to that point and, go oh my, Goodness i'm not. Allowed so what the hell are they going to do? Then, Anyway matt From queensland, SAYS x machina is that pronounced with a soft sound or a hard? ONE x. Makina it's a GOOD ai robot movie with what seems to be a futuristic, reality Says. Matt thank you for. That ray is, SAYING, I, mike give it fifty years or even much less like twenty. Years governments will be voted in not by having the best policies or politicians but the SMARTEST ai and the public citizens will just be pawns and voting the party that our OWN ai. RECOMMENDS i was, thinking Will smith must be, LATE i Ty Robby. Williams, yes thanks for, That, Ray but in the, meantime what are people going to? Do for. Jobs you, know they've got to eat. Surely and our whole, SOCIETY i know it maybe getting to the end of its, run but is based on. Consumerism what's going to happen to consumerism if people don't have jobs and the money to keep it all. GOING i, mean the changes that have been made even in my lifetime to crank up consumerism as. Spectacular but what happens to people who don't have. JOBS i know there are people who, say, oh everybody should be given some kind of. Income, yeah but what kind of life is that we? Do we just live our lives like cows in the shed being lot. Fed, Anyway gary's called in From. Brisbane. Morning, Gary, yes good Morning.

MIKE i think our voting system is. Deplorable you see That greens. Senator we have the election on the third Of, may, right and.

She's already defected across the thing to The Fabian socialist The Labor, party AND i kind of sort of, think you, know.

If you're going to.

You.

Can't she's. Coming she's been elected under The battle of The. Greens it's. Tupni if they're, INDEPENDENCE i can go WHERE i, Write but if you've done a party or, WHATEVER i should have a by election.

Board, look it brings up so many, issues doesn't. It And i'm inclined to agree with. YOU i think you should dance with one that brung. You if you get elected on a party ticket and you decide you don't want to be with that party, anymore THEN i think you should stand, again although that's going to cost us more. Money you should stand again as an independent to see if you can make it on your. Own because if you elect somebody because you think they're going to represent green values and then they, decide, oh there's more potential. Elsewhere see in many, Ways i'm a big supporter of Ms, price you, know just in The nama Jimper, price but just moving from one party to.

Another but that was basically a coalition.

Thing that was The liberals on The National party and a little bit of what you might say an in law's stay out type of. Thing And i'm looking at The conservatives now in the they basically shot themselves in the foot for what they've done because there's no one with any gend guts in termination. Anymore they just seem to go along with the same Old.

Downhill.

Agenda, yes but they're going to have to do something if they want to. Survive and even if you're A Labor party, SUPPORTER i would hope you would recognize our system depends on having a decent. Opposition you need a decent opposition to put some rigor into what is being. Done our whole, system our court, system depends on the adversarial. Idea and if you don't have a decent, opposition THEN i think you really got a. PROBLEM i really don't know how The Liberal party are going to come back from what they're. DOING i did Mention i'll be talking To Nick cator a bit. Later we're going to talk about.

That the other thing.

TOO i find That.

Alban easy or near, hour AS i refer to. Him he's going to go off to THE g. Seven he'll be traveling, again and he'll have A he basically, says where a state of our, country of our own we'll make. DECISIONS i think when he sees The Donald trump will chew him up and spreit him.

Out and, anyway that's no kind of. Answer he's not. Addressed once, again he's not addressing the. Issue and it's like his response on that same topic To asby's, saying, oh you people should look at how you. Debate it's like if you go back with albow and are you people the. CHICKEN i, mean it's not addressing the issue at. All But simpson would be embarrassed to argue on that. Level but as far as he And trump are, concerned it'll be interesting to see what he's like after he comes back from. That But trump seems to be absolutely. Determined AND i want to talk TO. A. G gankowski about this later in the. Morning this is the guy we talked to over In. Washington But Trump, Trump trump is of the view that you've got to pull your own weight if you want us to help you if there's a security threat of some kind from another.

Country well on the know a.

Bit about just years, AGO i was to work Till Major general In Controller establishments In Camel park and we had seventy three thousand people in the Combine, Navy, Army Air, force and over the last forty odd years just dropped the baton and they've got. Soft i've seen some of the people that they're, overweight they're not, fit and they have administers and desags there so they don't want to do. Anything they don't one time they used to dessert and go. Absent they put out a warrant to rest for, them but now they just give them admit of. DISCHARGE i hate to see now if ever we got into a, coffee we have our bums well and truly. Kicked our equipment's gone down on the, gurgle but we get told a lot of poky is the whole, time and a lot of these polymaffles we have in powered. Out they couldn't want to score a track.

Shop, yeah it's not, encouraging all, Right, gary got to? Fly but thanks for? Calling thank? You, okay, yes indeed you want to give me a? Call by all means there's a TEXT i want go to. Here oh, Yes joe, Says Hi, mike maybe looking At. Ai maybe we're looking At ai the wrong. Way the basis of human happiness is connecting with other. Humans how is this going to happen If ai does all your shopping for? You Cheers. Joe The japanese in particular seem to love their, robots, Though and you, KNOW i read these stories about males in particular who seem to be happy with robot. COMPANIONSHIP i don't see it, myself but maybe it's better than. NOTHING i don't, know or maybe some people are happy or that you get exactly what you want, anyway if you want to give me a ring one three one eight seven. Three jane's called in From. Brisbane good Morning, Jane, oh good Morning.

Mark GUESS i was wanting to say about the state of the, opposition, yeah in the federal, government AND i just felt that When Peter upman was walking around with The Lady, susan they didn't have a great deal of life to, them you, know they were walking around and When Gary harger his one for me to see up here and, drive he Was gary talking about the way The Liberal party's being, run AND i observed that About New South Wales's Liberal, party and of course he's virtually none In. Victoria and we're hoping With david BECAUSE i fully it starts to be life like again today up. Here but WHAT i wanted to say, WAS i don't believe That susan when Doub, mossy, yes of course it was. Over but If susan thinks that she can say as The Lady, susan as the leader of the, Opposition i'm glad for her late mother, recently late mother that she Saw susan in a leadership, position but the lady has passed, away AND i Think susan's behavior was the second rate, team which is WHAT i think somebody said on our lady of here in this life between the, mornings the breakfast mornings and then the. DRIVE i Think susan and her friends that she's appointed to cabinet is not the way the country should be. Run and the fact that jacks Enor jane him has. Overlooked she did it With she was very gracious in her acceptance of, it with a smile in her. Face AND i know That Luke grant Likes. Jane But, SUSAN i think she should have done WHAT i consider to be the right. Thing it was such a big. Loss peter was gone forever and she should have, resigned, retired and they take an advantage of her pilot, skills which she certainly has, got and do something in the Hay aubrey area with her pilot license and do as we have the problems with The SuDS in South West, queensland what's happening in with the fives and the other things happening In New South wales And. Victoria susan has a lot more to offer by going out into the public space with her pilot license and its visiting people and getting to know and then doing something on the, ground BECAUSE i don't believe that she'll be in that position as opposition leader for very much longer because they can't afford the Walking. Dead AND i look at her as in the Walking dead in politics AND i don't like to say that Because i'm not a hefty. PERSON i think you know, that BUT i just feel.

It, yeah all, right thank, You, jane thank, you thank you for. That if you want to give me a ring as people are doing the numbers one, three one eight seven, three got some text here to. Read david, Says, Hello, mike everyone here at The Cheu Gang Billiards club In shanghai would like to say hello to all your listeners In. Australia thank, You, david and hello to you and everybody at The Chew Gang Billiards. Club garry, saying, Morning. Mike you're right about the e bikes and. Scooters the damn. Things slash riders are. Dangerous they do stupid. Things some go faster than some cars on the road and, footpaths including, footpaths some without. Helmets he Says guess From. Bexley, YEAH i mean IT'S i mean inclined to agree with Colleague stanley that it has got to the point where we you, know we kind of ah that topic. Again BUT i do think it's a tragedy waiting to happen and not looking forward to The, oh we overlooked some red, flags there were missed. Opportunities everybody tried to do their, best you know that kind of stuff that you hear after the event when things aren't being properly. Addressed chris Says, mike there's a nothing good to say about The victorian labor government's running in the. State federal government doing the same makes a mess of. Everything state's bankrupt if the highest state taxes made concessions to its poorly planned revenue raising fire, services levy to divide emergency services or did you mean provide, volunteers farmers and. Protesters the state government's foolish policies are coming from its in house, advisors consultants and influences that are far less connected to and then the. POLITICIANS i think it was INTERESTING i mentioned the other, day AND i Think bernard was out of the country or. Something bernard. Salt he, said in this day and, age why don't we stay continuously connected to the, politicians but the politicians really. INTERESTED i mean it seems to me that the game In australian politics now is say what you have to to get, elected you, know make any kind of, promises you can buy your way, in whatever. Works but once you're, in then you tell the mob what you think is best for. Them you don't respond to what people obviously, want AND i mean that's self. Evident, really the government just ignores the sixty percent of the population who do not want to see this continuous high level of immigration for very good, reason but they're not doing anything to.

Stop.

It susan, Says, Hello Shanghai Billiards, club enjoy there you. Go that's. Nice chris is, saying mysas system of government depends on effective, opposition there's not In, Victoria camber and other states and. Territories we really have lost the. Plot and WHEN i say, WE i mean is it our fault for not paying enough. ATTENTION i haven't spoken To Terry barnes for a, while but that's the Way terry. Thinks we don't pay enough attention to what is. Happening with the people that we allow to make these decisions for. Us WHEN ai is fully, operational you walk around the shopping center putting stuff in your, trolley your credit card or, bankcard and that's the way you're going to. Go, yes or just takes care of it as you. Go they're pretty close to that with some of, them, now aren't. THEY i have that option at one PLACE i go. TO i don't. BOTHER i just buy my stuff and then go to the self, serve though OCCASIONALLY i try for a real life. PERSON jj SAYS mj robot. LOVE i don't see it myself with you on that, One, Mike, yes we could play, that so On, graham you want to have a look for, it you, KNOW i want a robot. Man i'm trying to think who sings. It it's from way, back like fifties or. Sixties, yes just for a bit of, lightness let's find. That michelle says if they move from one party to, another they should pay for a by. Election, thanks, YEAH i. AGREE i. AGREE i don't know what the option should. Be you don't like it where you, are but that's how you got. Elected if you don't stay with the party that got you, elected then you're there under false. Pretenses see how you can really see it any other? Way it doesn't seem to be any machinery to deal with. It but it's just. Ridiculous i'm a greenie or. Whatever OH i don't want to be that, anymore BUT i still want to take the.

Money now on T gb FOR bc and network. Stations back to ours, raight you're overnight With Mike Jeffries.

Goo good, morning welcome along and have just joined. Us we've been talking ABOUT ai a bitch, HERE jj, says robot she. Loves are you learned to say, That? Mike imagine in some years of a replacement women WITH ai robot. Women in some, years it's already. Happening imagine taking one home to meet your, mother SAYS. Joj, hello, mother here's the new. Girlfriend she was made At. SONY i got rid of the one From mitsubishi because the warranty had run, out and she's only a. Fizzle the hybrid children couldn't come, over but the human haves send their love and it's a wonderful picture. There thank you for painting. That talking ABOUT, jj he's talking.

About mckeinah and deis ex mckina that was a device used In greek, plays Wasn't it was, basically as near AS i could, gather an excuse for the person who wrote the play to introduce something that was totally out of the, blue to give the story a.

Twist it, was you, know a, GIMMICK i. Suppose but Then shakespeare used to have a few of. THOSE i, Mean shakespeare understood human beings and had a way with, words but with somebody's gimmicks for a, bit, suss weren't? They who was it In macbeth who could not be harmed by mortal woman? Born and then the person who did it was untimely ripped from his mother's. Womb you, KNOW i, mean really some of the niceties. There but, Anyway trump will just, say says anonymous person here talking About albanesi And trump and Heg seth And, Miles trump will just, say if you don't build your, defense we aren't going to help. YOU i Think albanese relies On america too. Much, well Alban easy seems to be lying on the, idea, oh we're, friends so that's, okay they should look after. US i don't think. SO i Think trump is of the view that if you're not going to pay your own. Way america is not going to fight your war for. YOU i think that's pretty, straightforward isn't. It And andy, says so you got your boom tish ready, There, Graham i'm i those. Defectors we're talking about the greenie lady who, decided although she was elected as A, green she wants to go to The labor. Party they called. Capsicums they go from green to. Red, yes and he, said sent with slam. Effect, okay you got a boom Tishe? Anyway, meanwhile at The French open is it's nine tennis Correspondent Craig, Gabriel good. Morning how are? You You're i'm talking to. You you're the only one.

Here, yeah and your army of.

Listeners uh, NO i was just thinking Back, werence you're doing the taxi driver. Thing you're talking to. Me i'm the only one.

Here so how's the?

Tennis is it involving and? Exciting it?

Is it's actually beautiful weather, WISE i mean bright sunshine at the moment over, HERE i mean The descender, court which is known As court Philib sheltier absolutely bathed in sunshinely the red clay is even brighter than it normally, is so Nervak djokovic on court at the moment of reasonably good, Crowd but there's been a massive upset over. Here and it's the number three women's. Seed IF i can find my, notes number three women's See Jessica bagula has been beaten by A french wild card ranked three hundred and sixty one in the. World. Wow and her name Is lois not as In Lois, Lane Lois, boisson and it's three six sixty four sixty. Four she got a wild card into the tournament and has, progressed and with the fact that she's reached the quarter finals of This French, open her ranking is rocketing up to one hundred and twenty at the moment from three hundred and sixty, one and there's still room for a further, improvement so we'll see how that. Goes but the crowd were going nuts On. Chartrier. SURE i think for the first time THAT i can remember this, tournament it was actually full for a woman's.

Match, okay but that is pretty exciting to see. That we love that kind of, thing.

Know We, Yeah, LOOK i think it's a great. Story you, know there's a lot of those sort of stats were the first since the first since then and, that and certainly in this case there are plenty of.

Those, Yes i'm just thinking back the clay tennis. Court the school THAT i went to in primary. School it was not a big.

School it wasn't long, ago, no but.

The most pupils it ever had was twenty, one usually had about nineteen and it was pretty hard to get a team sport. Going the only THING i was any good at was tennis back. Then but every year we used to have to weed the court because weeds would grow on, it and then we could. PLAY i think it might have been, clay but then people said it might have been ant's.

Nest, yes well where were you of the Seven.

Queensland oh, yeah well.

It would be an ant bed.

Court, okay it wasn't bad to play.

On, yeah there was out in The australian Country, Bush New South, Wales. Queensland there were a lot of those ant bed. Courts The australian player now we're tired and just one of the loveliest people that ever. Played Jason stoltenberg was from A New South wells country town starting with n and he grew up playing on antbed. COURTS i can't think of the name of the town. Now, yeah so its common practice in the.

Bush, okay well MAYBE i should have stayed with. That you, know who, knows who knows WHAT i could have. Done but LIKE i, said it was the NEAREST i ever got to playing a team sport because they just weren't enough kids to make a. Team, yes but anyway back to where you are to glamor anybody glamorous in the president's, Box, well.

What, happened what happened a little while ago IS i don't know who the footballer was or Is paris dash from in The french soccer team football team a couple of days ago won The Champions league final or whatever it's. Called i've got no interest in the. Sport so they actually presented the trophy on the center quarter over here this. Afternoon so there's you, know a lot of, applause standing ovation all. That but football match from a couple of days ago that really created a lot of problems in the city because a lot of hooliganism and. Riots AND i filmed a lot of that BECAUSE i went into the area that it was. Happening Because channel Nine Today show news that said, that can you go out there and just see what's going? On so that's WHY i ventured out, there AND i posted to My twitter And instagram accounts some of the stuff that was going. On and it was, intimidating and it was incredibly, noisy very very loud because they were setting off flares and fireworks and car horns and ambulances and police sirens and. Whatnot so it was something different and not SOMETHING i experienced.

Before isn't the psychology of? That because soccer can be so, frustrating you, know you can end up with a little drawer that there's all this suppressed emotion with the crowds and that's why you get the bad.

Behavior, well you know what WHAT i couldn't figure out is that they won right behaving like. Idiots, okay that's What that's WHAT i couldn't work as what. Happened the match was not, Here it was In, munich but the what's called The, park The prince The stadium where Paras Cent remain is. Home they let the crowds in over there are forty thousand shunning with giant screams so that they could watch the match right being played In.

Munich, okay but even that did not satisfy. Them and as you, say they, won but they still weren't. Happy.

Yeah, WELL i don't know if they were not happy or, what but they were creating an absolute mess over here and it was where they. Were there is any about a few streets, away three streets away from rolling as WHERE i?

Am, okay all, Right well any other tennis gyms THAT i should know about that we should all know. About by the, Way susan, says we love Hearing craig's tennis news and. Musings and there's a smiley emoji there on my.

Screen well that's very. Nice, yes there was this a bit disappoint for the For australia this afternoon over here With Darik Cassatkina dasher as everybody calls, her going out To Mira, andreva the number six, seed six three seventy. Five so that was the Last australian left in the singles, draw either of the singles. Draws but it was originally good effort on her. PART i, mean So andreva goes into the quarter. Finals but this is the first one of the majors That Darrek cassettkina has played as An, Australian so she got citizenship a couple of months. Ago it was Just march really that it all went Through crow and she now plays For australia rather Than, russia which was her citizenship citizenship of.

Birth, okay well that's interesting. Anyway the story of the day is obviously the lady who went from the three hundreds to the one hundreds in the.

Ranking, Yeah Lois, boisson.

Okay and as For glamour's in the in the.

Crowd, well it's difficult to know because they'd be local. Celebrities oh, yeah that's what you.

Said, yeah we don't care about.

Them BUT i know that the Actor James marsden was there yesterday AND i noticed that on a clip today WHEN i saw. That but they don't seem to put Like wimbledon does each day they send out a list of who's in the row. Box they don't do that, here and a lot of the locals WOULD i would would recognize some of the people that are in there if THE tv cameras go across to the raw to the president's. BOX i Know Janick, noah the Great french player who won, this and a lot in, fact the Last frenchman to Win Roland gallis back in what was it eighty? Two maybe he was in The president's box today And i'd been trying to reach him and had no contact with him for a number of, years AND i was going through The French federation and they, said, oh it's too difficult to reach him and all. This SO i came back to my, DESK i, said let me have a, look and wouldn't have NOT i had his email. Address So i've been chasing around trying to contact, him AND i had his email address the whole.

Time, okay we'll save it up the next time we. Talk, yeah, yeah all, right thank, You. Craig, okay That's Craig gabriel nine tennis correspondent at The French. Open Philip tis is even harder to play a team sport without two. Teams that's. True, actually WHEN i went to boarding, SCHOOL i was all set to get into the football, thing for, example AND i had all my, gear but they weren't interested BECAUSE i had no. Experience SO i got put in the bottom rung, team and you, know they put me out there on the wing BECAUSE i could run a. Bit but that was really my. EXPERIENCE i played squash there for a. WHILE i haven't tried. Pickleball that's the fashionable one at the, moment is it not of recent. Years here's a little humorous contribution From michael From. Brisbane he, says this is the joke of the. Day you, ready how many real estate agents does it take to change your light? Bulb? None it's the tenants. Problem thank You michael for. That there's a long email text. Here, oh by the, way you can send me an email if you want. It in, FACT i was looking at one from yesterday THAT i meant to read this is you could keep your moomtish ready for this, One. Graham this is From jerry From sutherland, SAYS i really enjoyed the four HOURS i spent listening to the show this. MORNING i never know HOW i will be on any given, day But i'm looking forward to tomorrow's. Bonus thank, You. JERRY i found today's item about the panties pincher very. Amusing we were talking about, snowdrops people who Steal ladies, underwear and there's somebody In japan who stole four hundred and fifty items of women's underwear from. Laundromats see in the old, days the snowdrop would steal the women's underwear from the clothesline or the hills hoist or. Whatever but the sky In japan was stealing in quantity from. Laundromats as, usual the embellishments outdid the. Original, okay thank, You, Jerry but he, Says i'm reminded of an old story about a fellow who played a round of golf and an, acquaintance and after the round they were changing in the changing, room and the acquaintance said to his, mate how long have you been Wearing frilly? Nickers and the other guy, said ever since my wife found a pair Of ladies panties in the glovebox of the. Car, yes that's a fine little joke, there. Hmm, anyway this long text here Is MIKE ai Again. RELATIONSHIPS i subscribe to a personal one for TWENTY us dollars a. MONTH i use it for coding and it knows. Me, however it's still a very, smart high speed. Chatbot What i've noticed is it's learning as it, goes and it's getting noticeably smarter every TIME i use. It see that's, interesting isn't. It you can adjust settings if you want to have a relationship with. It it speaks in whatever voice you. Want you can set it's. Mood it can text conversation to you on a screen faster than we can speak in whatever mood again that you. Want people will have relationships with their. Ais as my, correspondent it's easy to set. PARAMETERS i SUSPECT ai and a person will work together rather than one dominating the. Relationship then it goes. On but that's all the text will. Accommodate, yes, okay thank you for all Those and if you want to give me a, ring by all means one three by eighty, seven three is the. Number but right now.

And, now health and well being with our resident, Naturopath russell, said.

Right russell, said, right good, Morning how are you? WELL i Trust i'm going very. Well mike on, yourself, yeah, fine mustn't grumble light.

Help white help.

Look a controversial item, here mushrooms give them some heat your. Mushrooms?

Why, yeah well a number of. Reasons, actually mushrooms in their raw state do carry a couple of ingredients that potentially. Toxic they have been linked with causing cancer in some, studies and other studies say no they. Don't but it's something that you don't want to risk and cooking mushrooms destroys. That it's very, unstable and so heating them up takes care of. That, also some people can get rashes meeting raw mushrooms are going cooking them eating them up breaks down some of the parts in the mushroom that allergy comes, back and it's known as a wild, card a mushroom. Rash some of the other things, too is you look at something that grows in you know what mushrooms, going don't.

You, yes you do see a fair bit of that in this.

Industry is that's, Right so it's a good idea to cook them and make sure you've got rid of all the.

Bugs that's another reason for.

That so there's a number of the reasons you do that for safety. Mechanism, also it breaks down that the cell wall of the, mushroom it's difficult to digest and allows it to then release all its goodness to get More the vitamins and solenium and the antioxidant properties of the mushroom are better when you cook it than they are, raw which is what a lot of people don't. Understand they, think, oh, rh it's got to be better cooking destroyers with. Mushrooms cooking improves.

IT i like your phrase, Here cooking flips the switch from questionable to.

Nutritional that's, Right so it makes a big.

Difference and of course there are some mushrooms that we're hearing about in the papers. Recently cooking them is not going to solve the problem that. Way SO i would say that people don't pick while mushrooms unless you really know what you're. Doing buy them from a store and you won't have.

Problems WHEN i was a very little, KID i used to go looking for mushrooms in the bush With, granny but she was the one who made the.

Judgments same, here and you, KNOW i know what they all the different. Ones but do you remember. EXACTLY i don't trust myself that you're. Right my grandmother knew. Perfectly it would say that's, okay that's not that's a. Toad, still that's the, mushroom just straight. Away they knew because that's what they did all the. Time, yeah they, Knew they knew very. Well but the quality of food when they pick it's a bit like some of the wine. Makers they can tell you what side of the. Hill the grape, program.

It's Amazing amiga three, Up amiga six. Down what's this, here the dietary.

Shift, yeah, well what we've been looking at is a mega. Six something that's, new that's fine seed. Oils all of the seed oils that we're, seeing they're, cheaper easier to, use much less expensive than olive oil or your avocado. Oils so they're pushed there in margarine and. Everything since they've been pushed into the, diet we've seen an increase of certain. Diseases and this study looked at the increase in instances of prostate, cancer and a number of studies look at this with the inflammatory markers that are increased when you're having seed oils because they're higher than A mega. Six balance of A mega six and a mega three in The western diet is way. Out we go to, these, say The japanese diet and the Good mediterranean diet is a much higher ratio of A mega three from your fish there, is and they use olive. Oil there's no way they're using rape seed oil as their main oil in their cooking and needs of The, japanese so their rates of prostate can throw a way lower than. Ours they've identified some of the ingredients which is The amiga six fatty acids that are a cause of, inflammation and inflammation is associated with most. Diseases some of the people, say, oh, yes but they've got A mega three with them as, well but it's not. Bioavailable A mega. Three it doesn't break down into the ecosapantas andoic acid eco hexenoic, acid which are the Important niga three is that we need to function our, body in other, words essential flatty, acids and unfortunately for the aced, oils that doesn't break down into those essential fatty. Acids so it's very misleading when they say it's got all of Them mega three as, well it.

Doesn't, okay so it's theoretically, there but not necessarily available in the. Process what about this one introducing fish before twelve. Months we're talking about babies and feeding them a low mercury fish once a.

Week why nothing new about, fish you, know and we'll probably do that another week a special. One but fish and fish oils and cod liver oil was a standard practice to give to young. Babies you went To terracilian nursia and they would, say, right baby's got to be on fish and fish oil because they wanted the vitamin d ouded the codliver oil to help prevent, wrickets and they knew that fish and eating fish was good for. LUNGS i remember or twenty or thirty years, ago there was a study and it was up in the newspaper stuck in fish amonger's. Windows it said eating fish reduces asthma. INCIDENTS i seventy five. Percent that's you, know that's a bit higher than we'd, expect but certainly they're finding now but including and these are published, studies medically peer reviewed, literature and it's shown that given kids fish when they're younger reduces the risk of asthma by twenty eight to thirty four. Percent so that's quite. Substantial quite a few people in these. Studies one of the, studies one hundred and seventy four thousand, children in a meta analysis of fifty four, studies found that childhood asthma was reduced by thirty nine percent and those that were fed bly. Fish talk about the story in, That, yes you talk about cod liver.

OIL i seem to remember not being particularly thrilled about it at the, time BUT i had to ingest cod liver oil well past the baby.

Sage we, did didn't? We and it was mainly we Had scott's emulsion from? Memory wasn't that white horrible?

Stuff?

YEAH i remember being quite and.

Horrible, yeah, yeah that Was scott's.

EMULSION i remember my mother chased me around to have that one. TOO i hated, it and there was an old sorry that tastes. Terrible it must be good for, you you, know but you do everything to get out of. That spit it out. THERE i didn't like it at. ALL i still. DON'T i just thank goodness for. Capsules BUT i don't take cod liver oil BECAUSE i fish, regularly SO i don't need.

TO i don't.

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Oh ABSOLUTELY i.

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It, YEAH i wasn't the only. ONE i wouldn't allow. That imagine me being the only one that got, it not a.

Chance, yeah thank you for, That, russell my.

Pleasure. Mark you have a fine morning and enjoy the change to cool.

Weather yes it's me.

Is cool and. FOGGY i could do without the, fog BUT i GUESS i have to accept the.

Cool, yeah the fog was caused by the thing that shot through the, sky wasn't?

It?

Oh the media, Rite, yes, yeah.

Some people said. THAT i, Thought, no really they're not saying, that are. They, well it's not on a.

Pretty good display for something THAT i saw ON tv last night was supposed to be about the size of a golf.

Ball, yeah it, did didn't? It and it wasn't it magnificently the southern lights and the Sky oh, yes really beautiful was worth while looking.

At, indeed, yes whoever directed that particular, show my compliments to him or? Her, yes, absolutely all, Right russell talking a week all the very Best russell, said right Is australia's best known nature path and author Of Get well in The Golden, years saying before About, shakespeare you, know it's pretty good with words and understanding human, beings but some of his plot devices were pretty, GIMMICKY i, Thought AND i Mentioned, macbeth who was told by the witches that no, man a mortal woman born could kill. Him but it Was. Macduff as a correspondent points out, here it doesn't leave me with a name As, macduff who was from his mother's womb untimely. Ripped but you know it was still born of mortal. Woman but, anyway but when you think About, macbeth it was a bit. Gimmicky what About macbeth was going to be okay Until burnham wood shall march to duns And. Nane, anyway the old boy knew he'd had it when he saw that apparently the wood was, Moving but really it was the soldier's indulging in a bit of camouflage holding up the tree. Branches, yeah still mind, YOU i Suppose merchant Of venice take you pound of, flesh but not wonder up of. Blood sure you had there was kind of. Clever came as a bit of a. Surprise if you would like to send me a text by all, means the number is zero four six zero eight three eight seven. Three maureen, SAYS i wouldn't trust this government care for my, dog let alone the, country And i'm dead IF i know how he blitz the. Election The lord helps those who help. Themselves, well it was very poor campaign by the. Opposition it counts very much who the leader, is and a lot of, people particularly, women people just didn't like the. Leader it was really that. Simple plus the magic of the preferential, system because you, know the primary vote was thirty four points. Something so even Though albo and his people are, saying, ah, yes, yes overwhelming. Mandate not really as far as the popular vote is, concerned but with our system it worked out. Anyway be that as it. May i'm just looking at some odd stories. Here, OKAY i better finish this. Off this is From. Stew this was the text that didn't go all the, Way she Says mike the rest of THE ai. TEXT i also think that using the full potential OF ai by the majority of humanity will not happen because it's incredible in relation to its use in social media. Output people will be totally distracted by using it for social media interactions from using it to its full, potential Says stew of the ridge ps and bed. Courts the ants were meat ants where they, well they weren't in evidence on the on the court. There, Yes i'm looking at the joke From. RAY i don't Know, ray if it's entirely suitable you, know, personally DO i? Care, well, no But dale's very sensitive AND i don't want to make his life, difficult, will Saying. Michael the concept of man's own destruction caused by his creation OF ai has been covered by The Alan Parsons project on their ALBUM I robot in nineteen seventy. SEVEN i remember The Alan Parsons, project but not much of their, material will say so maybe it was way ahead of its. Time played the single from the album PERHAPS i wouldn't want to be like? You, well i'll investigate. That thank you will for? That, yes right about this. Time we usually play a tragic, song BUT i, thought because we've been talking ABOUT ai and you, know the human aspect OF ai kill, us can we choose it for a? Girlfriend here's a wonderful banal piece of sixties pop on that. Theme that's sixty. One it's still got that sort of fifty, sound hasn't. It BUT i, mean if that ain't a chirpy example of it's got everything, going the handclapping there and the cute instrument thing and the, chorus It's Connie francis if you're, wondering you. Know and for people to, say why don't we play a happy song instead of a tragic, song, WELL i think that fits the bill and ties in with what we're talking, about because as far as the tragic song is, CONCERNED i, mean it's really only my showcasing of it because most songs are. Tragic most songs are about heartbreak and missing out and gloom and. Doom susan, Says i've never heard that. Song it's. Funny, well yes it, is and nothing if not so some quaint stories. Here there's no doubt about the. PALMS i mean they do get. Whimsical madam To, swords you, know the wax people In london have unveiled a wax sculpture of a sausage, roll A Gregg's sausage, role and it's sitting there on a cushion and you kind of look at it and, think what is. That, oh it's a sausage. ROLE i guess the, story says famed wax Museum madam To swords In london unveiled its latest recreation one Of britain's most beloved, icons a sausage roll from bakery Chain. Greggs the museum showcased The Gregs sausage role wax sculpture in the run up To National Sausage Roll, day which falls On june. FIFTH i don't want, to you, know Steal dale's thunder, here but apparently it falls On june fifths for a limited time Only the Beloved british classic has secured a top spot in Our Baker street Attractions Culture Capital, zone alongside the likes Of Sir David, Attenborough stormzy And William. Shakespeare Madame tisaward said in a news, release The Culture Capital zone is dedicated to those who've helped shape the landscape Of british, culture from trail blazing artists to political giants and now the Golden flaky pastry icon Of british. Cuisine the museum, said The Greg sausage role is a savory treat made by wrapping a sausage in puff pastry and baking. It we're absolutely thrilled That Madame Tusword's london has chosen to honor The Greg's sausage role in such a unique and iconic, way Said WEGG Ceo Rosen. Curry it's a true celebration of our national favorite and we couldn't think of a more fitting tribute in the lead up To National Sausage Roll. Day seeing our sausage roll receive the celebrity treatment is a proud and slightly surreal moment for all of us At. Gregg's my Associate graham here in a remarkable coincidence is wearing some of Those Gregg's bakery, socks because every time he goes To england he makes sure to have what the sausage, role which you say is a bit more like, pork whereas ours tend to be be. Beefy and we didn't prepare any of, this and yet here you are Wearing gregg's. Socks, well what does it?

Mean, hmm.

It's pretty. Quirky BUT i mean the poems can be pretty, quirky can't. They here's somebody who's sent me a text t. MCQ i DO i know somebody who could fit those, initials BUT i better not say WHO i think it might, be just in case it. Is this, person Says Alan. Parsons project was quite. Prolific, yeah and pretty. Good now it's all. True actually have A google on him. Them, YEAH i, will just for, Fun, gene SAYS I. Mike two great nights this week with, You thank, You, jean Plus Dale's National. Days there are some good in the. WORLD a nice song to boot Thanks. Gene i'm glad you liked the, cheerful little funny song from nineteen sixty. One NOW i haven't done the animal, stories and you Know i'm told people like animal. Stories here's one about a. Bobcat i'm looking at this. Bobcat it doesn't look. Pleased it doesn't look like a happy. Bobcat it revolves around the fact that you can usually fascinate cats with those laser pointery. Things sheriff's deputies were called to remove a bobcat from inside A colorado resident's living, room and they attempted to get the animal to chase, lasers but it was not. Impressed and if you saw the picture, here it's on the internet if you want to have a, look this animal is not. Impressed when did it? Happen a day or so? Ago The Jefferson County Sheriff's office said deputies responded to A Ken carroll home where a resident found a bobcat hiding behind THE. Tv you don't expect, that do. You cats and dogs chase laser, pointers but this bobcat was not. Impressed this is what The sheriff's office said on social. Media when it wandered into A Ken carroll home and cozied up behind OUR, tv our deputies thought outside the, box trying their tases green lasers to coax it. Out The bobcat's verdict not. Interested the bobcat eventually quote left at its own pace through the back, door which had been left open for. It guess some intruders just out dazzled by our high tech. Tricks the post, Said, YEAH i don't think the bobcat would care ABOUT. Ai here's another animal. Story mother bear and cub Visit california residence. POOL A california resident captured video of a mother bear giving her cub a swimming lesson in a backyard. Pool the urban residents shared videos showing the large mama bear and her tiny cub taking a dip in the pool behind the. House the residents said it's not uncommon for bears to visit the pool in search of somewhere to cool down from the high. Temperatures The California Department fish And wildlife encourages residents to keep food and trash safely secured to prevent the animals from becoming to accustomed to. Humans you, know they talk about what we have in this country with the brown snakes and the spiders and that kind of. Thing but at least we don't have. Bears we don't have to concern ourselves about. THAT i don't think we've got time for A nicholas, call have. We we've got to go to commercials. Here But dale Tell Nicholas i'm happy to talk to him after the news if he would like to. Talk Then joyce, SAYS i knew that Song mike From Connie, francis then you would know some of her. Hits she did have a lot of songs put, out but the biggest ones were Stupid. Cupid remember that Stupid? Cupid stop picking on? Me who's? Sorry? Now everybody's somebody's. Fool lipstick on your. Collar lipstick on your collar tells the tale on. You my heart has a mind of its. Own and then there's a whole lot, more but you probably wouldn't recognize. Them she did have a version Of Tennessee, walts but then so did lots of. People but Poor connie apparently was diagnosed with manic depression despite all the. Success she would later say it was a, misdiagnosis along with concurrent misdiagnosis of attention deficit, disorder and the medications she'd been erroneously prescribed had turned her into a. Zombie Poor, connie but she had a pretty good run there for a, While but you, know it's an interesting. Study whether they call it impost. Syndrome people have all this success and THINK i don't really deserve it or whatever it, is and they turn into a depressed.

Mess now on TWO gb FOR bc and network. Stations go back TO. Osra you're overnight With Mike.

Jeffries good, morning coming up shortly give my associate Mister sindon With National. Days joyce, saying funny How albo never told us about The woodside boil and gas wightl after the. Election, WELL i suppose you'd be worried about losing the, greenees but we ended up losing some greenees. Anyway but then he's acquired one with during THE. COX i, mean, really politicians who do, that they are such. Frauds they're just total. Shysters hey vote for. Me i'm. This OH i changed my. MIND i don't want to be that. Anymore but Since i'm, Here i'd like, to you, know keep the whole power thing going and take the. Money, yes, well you know my favorite quote on that sort of thing By groucho when he was running for, Office Groucho, marx he, said those are my, policies AND i stand by, them but if you don't like, THEM i have. Others, meantime Here's nicholas From. Earlwood good, Morning, Nicholas.

Morning.

Mike just very, quickly another suggestion for a sad, song m. Hm and it comes under the category of sad songs with an undercurrent of. Anger and It's The Rolling Stones Painted Black classic nineteen sixty.

SIX Pc Red door AND i want to paint it. Black, yes.

Very, sad underlying sort of sense of, isolation with real undercurrent of.

ANGER a powerful.

Song, anyway that's something to think about if you want to consider that the, List, yes. Yep and just very, quickly the sausage rowl At Madame. Tussau's DID i pronounce that?

Correctly it's actually two, swords all? Right Adam. Swords years ago there was a lady who used to write about radio Called Heather, chapman and she said that it should be pronounced to. Sow's and it was unlike me BECAUSE i was talking about it AND i said to swords and to get it. Wrong BUT i wasn't, wrong and credit to, her and you don't always get this from. Journals she actually apologized in the. Paper, oh AND i was wrong And Mike jefferys is. Right how about. That you don't get that a.

Lot, no excellent and very gracious of.

Her very, YEAH i.

AGREE i was just, thinking you, know it's quite a song that's been changed. Around it's a long way not so much to the, shop but across the world to see a sausage roll rather than buy. IT i was just thinking of this mad cap idea of having a AC dc cover band at the, inauguration you, know and with those famous. Lyrics it's a long way to the shop if you want To, yes it's a long way across the.

World, YES i. Remember people used to make up their own lyrics to that, song sometimes quite body lyrics.

IT i guess after a few drinks you're prone to change the lyrics to some.

Songs that does happen when your.

Mood. Yeah, ANYWAY i was going to talk about a political, issue BUT i Think i'll leave it for next.

Week, okay all, right have.

A good morning you, Too thank, You. Nicholas here is an Email joyces with artificial intelligence in the family photo? Album would they all have the same? Face, well it's whatever you. WANT i, mean you could have all the same face or any face you. WANT i, MEAN i haven't played with, it mantrelough playing with the. Whatever it was a couple of weeks. Ago and you can say things as we, did like we want to See Vladimir putin writing a unicorn and it just does it for you straight, away so you can have anything you. Want, Yes jois Is, MIKE i fell asleep start of the. Show how come you're on? Again i'm so glad you? Here have you got you for the rest of the week, Now i'm just doing today Because chris is asking To mike is filled on holiday's o tunion. Late, no he's just taking a day. Off it's a personal thing and he's just taken the day. Off but the plan is that he will be back, tomorrow AS i understand. It here's a. STORY i, mean this is so. SHOCKING i just can't believe it even. Happened there's a mob called BEING. Q i don't know, them but it seems like The ikea type, people and they sell flat pack furniture and that sort of. THING beamq was forced to apologize if after it advertised a storage unit as easy to. Assemble so they sell these flatback, things LIKE i, said Like, ika it's easy to, assemble they said in their ad even if you're a. Girl well just. Imagine they listed a flat pack bamboo bathroom shelf with the information easy to assemble the cabinet even if you're a, girl it. Said the inappropriate remark had come from a third party, Seller it wasn't, us and they apologize for any offense. Caused tall storage cabinet perfect for saving, space slim design to fit in almost any. Corner three shelves provide plenty of storage to keep essentials organized and, neat and the cabinet door provides. Privacy easy to assemble the cabinet even if you're a. Girl it comes after The Do It Yourself shop launched a do The Lift thing campaign to showcase tradeswomen breaking down. Barriers oh my, goodness they forgot to be all. Dei the project wanted to highlight the new movement of women in trades while spotlighting the barriers preventing more girls and women entering the. Field supply And logistics Director Emeli Galachan todd said at the time of the, launch with only two percent of trade professionals being, WOMEN b AND q is committed to tackling this and has pledged a million pounds must be In england to fund trade apprentices across a variety of, sectors including, carpentry, plumbing painting and. Decorating by showcasing successful women in these, roles we hope to inspire the next generation to pursue careers in, trades challenging, stirs rieotypes and changing. Perceptions in the introduction To Agenda paygap report last, YEAR b AND q, said we're proud of the progress we're. Making this is supported by forty four percent of our management roles being occupied by. Women and then they totally blow it with. THIS A b AND q spokesperson, said we apologize for any offense caused by this inappropriate description of a product offered by a third party. Seller but this thing has now been removed and they were all di and then they do. That oh well. SEE i think it's funny because it just makes you wonder what they really believe as opposed to what they're presenting out, there because it's they think it's the thing to. Do judy. Says in nineteen sixty, One Connie francis toured In. Sydney did She? Indeed i'm Cole joy's biggest fan AND i was so excited WHEN i was on the Big Dippert Lunar park And Colin connie were sitting in front of. Me how about that rush With. FAME i remember her singing where the boys? Are i'm happy to hear your voice on this program, too Says. Judy, well thank you for. That further the story about THE b AND q people ruining their whole D i. Thing remember earlier in the, morning if you were with, me we were talking about the filter On tinder to let people know how tall you are and the CHAT gpt that apparently allows people to assess how tall you are from, Photographs michael saying they should have added easy to assemble cabinet even if you're a girl or a short. Ass. YEAH i don't know if that did work in, marketing but you know that's just.

Me oh DO i comment on?

That?

No, no, no, no.

Oh you pointed at.

Me i'm SORRY i. POINTED i should have pointed To National, Days National, days the milk oro.

Roots nothing goes down better in the middle of the night than a beautiful milk arrowroot and a nice cup of.

Tea how did you Persuade john to do that for?

You it wasn't, Hard, John you, know you just sling him an orange cream biscuit and he's?

Anybody oh is that?

Right?

Okay, yeah he did have one of my brownies this morning.

Though they were pretty. Good actually the. Brownies did you make them? Yourself?

OH i, DID i, did, WELL i.

Did but my goddaughter gave me this little gift which was basically everything you need in a little, jar and all you had to do was ADD i can't remember how much. Butter it was about one hundred and thirty. GRAMS i can't remember what it was melted butter and three eggs and beat it. Up SO i imagine you could get a recipe and do it, yourself but it was pretty much to do it, yourself AND i baked it in my very own oven at. Home mike And, john sometimes he can be a bit iffy with you can offer him something and he's really good and oh, no, no, no oh, no, NO i Can't and this in this, CASE i went in an off aty money goes oh.

Oh, yes, Okay.

And it probably gave him the energy to get through to.

Midnight when you were a, kid did you ever make chocolate?

CRACKLES i don't THINK i ever Did mum?

DID i do, recall AND i think it was for someone's birthday party or if there was a school fade or. SOMETHING i can't remember myself making chocolate.

Crackles i'm pretty SURE i, did or you, know in the family sort of. Thing but, yeah they're pretty.

Straightforward, YEAH i Remember mum make also making those things for the you, know the touch shop or the school faars or. Things those toffee you put in those little things and because they were like that'd pull your fillings. Out it was basically what melted sugar or. SOMETHING i can't what went in glue and sugar and, stuff but they were the little things and it'd have a you, know some sprinkles on and you'd suck on these things and they were glorious as a, kid BUT i think nowadays my teeth had collapse.

Underneath the the succulence.

Of the mic and you're sugar would go through the. Roof, yes it.

Is, YEAH i ACTUALLY i don't know if you noticed on the news.

Mic So i'm just going to reiterate. Something the blood bank is very. SHORT i do go every two. Weeks, Yeah So i'm very firm believer in donating. Blood it doesn't take too long out of your. Day it makes you feel like you're doing some. Good if you have got room in your, day it'd be a great thing if you could go and donate some. Blood i'm back there ON i don't THINK i can give it Before sunday. More i'm in there Giving sunday.

Morning what type are?

YOU i just got to, SAY i usually say.

BO i Think I'M o, positive which is pretty much a very universal blood, group so it's always in. Demand BUT i mostly give plasma BECAUSE i can give that every two.

WEEKS i remember you're telling me that that's.

Obviously terrific for people who are going through chemo and all sorts of, things because they're constantly, needing you, know.

Plasma BUT i might.

Have to relent and give depending on how it is by the end of the, week give some, blood which MEANS i can't go back for another three, months WHERE i usually go in every two.

Weeks, yes it's a very long time SINCE i did.

That but now you're going for a, withdrawal or will, You, Mike, yes so that.

Was WHEN i was very young and. Thin, yes here you, go, son here's a. Pint don't worry, oh. Okay WHEN i went to the blood, bank but they let me take a. Withdrawal. NO i forget what my blood type, is BUT i think it's pretty common as. Something so it's in demand because it's. COMMON i, mean.

Even if you have a blood type that isn't, common, obviously that's in demand because there you know someone's going to come along who there's not many of, you exactly exactly, anyway that's just a little plug for the. Morning if you can spare the, time go along and do.

It you'll be very pleased you, Did mike.

Today remember this is an. Item it's it's, day and there's been ups and downs of whether this is good or bad for. Ages it's A national Egg.

DAY i do like a good.

Egg but every now and then you'd see some then come through saying, oh you shouldn't be eat too many, eggs and and then something comes oh, yeah no.

Eggs if you have an egg a, day it's terrific for. YOU i do go through a, few whether.

It's a bit of A sunday ritual of having a fry, up you, know with Some i'm trying to avoid the sausages at the, moment but Certainly i'll have some tomato and eggs and what have you?

BEEN i like making a nominal with there's capsicum strips in. There you lost me at. Capsicum, NO i kind of like. THAT i just, pleased because you, Know i'm the worst than most careless shopper in the. World BUT i bought a dozen eggs the other day for seven FIFTY i think it.

Was, yeah they've gone.

Up but THEN i saw some eggs on a shelf for sixteen.

Dollars, yeah they're the ones where they actually massage the. Chickens, no do they have, them you, know foot rubs while they're actually laying the? Eggs, NO i, See, YEAH i accidentally bought some of. Those there were some eggs, that you, KNOW i don't think it was on. Purpose they had it in the wrong, shelf SO i THOUGHT i was getting the medium. PRICED i never buy caged. EGGS i just can't bring myself to do.

That, well these were free range according to the. Labeling, yeah for seven, fifty and there was some there for seven. DOLLARS i forget, WELL i bought the seven fifty. ONES i think they were just easier to get.

To, yeah, Yeah i'm actually buy on. Size but WHAT i accidentally. BOUGHT i think it ended up costing you twelve dollars or, something AND i, Thought i'm not going to go back for. That obviously someone put it in the wrong. SPOT i don't know if they taste it any.

Better but.

Yeah the other THING i like, doing and it's probably a thing going back To, mum is doing curried. Eggs so if you had curried eggs, sandwiches you know you.

Boil oh, yeah they're not.

Bad shout, up put some curry. In, oh very good bit of.

Parsley have you seen those things now at the. SUPERMARKET i haven't seen them in the last week or, so but they're kind of. HANDY i think you get these already shelled boiled eggs in a plastic, bag Good Lord, nord and they're in a vinegar or. SOMETHING i thought they were pretty. GOOD i, mean when you go to the unit price something like two nighty or three nighty or.

Whatever that have me. NOT i can't waste.

MONEY i, mean having been in the, VINEGAR i got to, SAY i love poached eggs, too and you put a bit of vinegar in the water.

There but pickled, eggs.

WELL i don't. Know it was in maybe it was apple cider or something whatever it, was BUT i thought they were pretty. Good and they're pretty, handy you know for somebody disorganized like. Me oh, great, Okay i've got the boiled. Eggs they're all skinned and ready to.

Go but it's a pickled. Egg it's got the pickle flavor with.

It, well not that.

Much it was mainly just like boiled egg.

Flavor i've never heard. That i've never heard of such a.

Thing, no the local here In. PIEDMONT i got them from the local. Meteah oh, okay, yeah oh.

Maybe they're just around.

It i've never. Looked, No i've only seen them fairly. Recently But susan, Says brownie's. Young oh.

Okay, well the healthy The Health services say that the benefits of eggs seem to outweigh the. Concern THE aha says healthy adults can enjoy an egg per day and easily remain within the daily cholesterol. Limit, also a single egg has seventy only seventy five, calories which use great for those looking to lose weight and also fills you.

Up it's, like if you, Know i've got some co quality to them that if you have eggs for breakfast you don't feel hungry for quite a while for whatever. Reason, yeah, yeah.

Totally and the seven grams of protein an average egg almost makes this a super food with a great calorie to ratio protein to. RATIO i should say so those who have we are big fans of poached SCRAMBLED i love scrambled eggs over. Easy i've you ever been To america where the first TIME i went there AND i went to a diner.

AND i got one of the.

Breakfasts they, asked do you want your eggs sunny side?

Up AND i, Went i'm, sorry and she had to.

Explain, obviously sunny side up is if it's not, flipped so it's got the little beautiful little yolk pointing. Upwards and over easy is when they sort.

Of, WELL i kind of like over easy because sunny side up means it's pretty hard right, now it's. Runny, really my experience that over easy is the oaks pretty. Hard, sorry but the over sunny side up is. Hard over easy is. Soft that's my. Experience, NOW i thought.

The sunny side up is when they don't flip The.

Yeah you're, right they don't flip it. Over, NO i didn't think it was. Hard, well maybe it depends what probably varies from.

States, Anyway back in The neolethic Gauge, archaeolis evidence for egg consumption dates back to this period fourteen hundred B. C fowl lays eggs for human consumption as early as fourteen hundred B. C that's when they were sort of figured out these are pretty damn. Good acording the records From egypt And. China three hundred B. C chicken farmers start incubating eggs in warm clay, ovens and in the nineteen twenties eggs are still mostly farmed in.

Backyards, okay but the thing about you, know the near lithic, times the good thing about eggs is that the source of the food isn't liable to want to kill, you you, know or.

Maybe back in the dinosaur age they were biggert, chickens big big.

Chicken you got a more value, egg but also risk your life getting.

It, yeah, well today's also, well you've ever been chased by if you've been on a, farm if you get a pesky rooster that usually chases the kid and realizes the fact that the kid's scared scared of the dam, thing and get they pick on the, kitty they chase the.

Kitty, oh, yes they can do. That see here's an anonymous person, saying six eggs in a cup every, day and a drink in a.

Drink oh, Okay philip.

Saying carried egg, sandwiches young egg and mayonnaise, too but this in a. Drink they be. Rocky in The western movies they used to have this thing called a prairie. Oyster AND i don't know what we call it, here but it's basically an egg in whiskey or whatever you like to, Drink just a raw egg in the whiskey and do you gulp it.

Down there's two things there they wouldn't Like mike drinking the raw egg and the. Whiskey it's Also Insect Repellent Awareness.

DAY i think you're very.

HOT i don't think anyone In, australia particularly around, summer doesn't know about insect.

Repellent.

Yeah everyone's been bitten by an.

Insect and while many insect bites offer nothing more than, discomfort some lead to. Illness the most common insect bite that leads to illness is a mosquito, bite which can give rise to. Malaria one of the deadliest diseases in the, world and which continues to take countless lives every. Year Insect Repellent Awareness day was created the promote the use of insect repellents to prevent insect bites and the spread of the disease that happens when that bite.

Occurs did you ever have to sleep under mosquit? DOUGHNUTS i don't think.

So i've always been tempted to get, one purely because you, KNOW i sleep with the windows open in. SUMMER i don't have fly, screens and there's nothing worse than laying there and just hearing. IT i get up and spray enough fly sprayed to. Drown you, know a lot of. THEM i leave the, room put the fan.

On and then come back in a bit later and hopefully they're.

Gone we just have nets WHEN i was a kid In. Queensland but the recommendation now is you have the net and you spray it with insect. Repellent, oh to keep it. Off, yeah, well to keep those insects. Away, yeah.

Yeah it was in the eighteen.

Eighties Mike Alphonse Laverne Laverne sorry discovers malaria parasite in the blood of malaria patients eight ninety, Seven william McCown discovered the sexual stages of malaria parasite in the. Blood eight ninety Eight italian mariologists malariologists conclude that the human malary is transmitted by mosquitoes and this. Cake and then in nineteen forty, Eight henry Shot Or short And Cyril garnum discover the malaria parasites developing the liver before entering the. Bloodstream so just along the way they've found out how there's little, buggers you, know doing people In.

My old man said the only thing you got out of the army was malaria and. Tenure he Wasn't he wasn't a happy. Man good morning if you just joined, Us It's National days With. Dale yeah and happy love conquers all. Day, Mike, OH i know you've been waiting for.

This.

Yeah no matter how tough life, gets the sailing becomes smooth with our loved ones at our.

Side.

Mike it's a day to express gratitude and love to those who matter and recognize love is and emotion that can make the world go.

Round it's a day of joy and.

Warmth you can celebrate it with, friends, family, partners pets or anyone whom you love and. Cherish go home and give my goldfish a. Snuggle, yes but it is good to have people by your. SIDE i, mean whether because you're a.

What would you call?

You a bit of a vulcan vulcan vulcan, unemotional particularly when it comes to, dear, DEAR i can't hug this, son.

Dear, well we've discussed the hugging thing and people have interpreted. It but, yes BUT i wasn't always the rooting.

Recluse i've become, okay just ever Since i've known.

You, yes that's. Right, Yes, oh.

Good for, You, mike good for.

You i'm actually over, it probably overly.

Emotional OH i don't pretend THAT i was, emotional BUT i didn't have people close to.

Me, yeah but it's good to have people close to. Me it's funny with the FRIEND i reacquainted, with or not reacquainted.

WITH i sort of met up with In.

Lisbon it's opened up a bit of a floodgame of. Messages now we message each. Other it's like having been back in the school, yard having a friend to you, know just run everything, past which is really that can be.

Handy it is handy and his.

Handy but, anyway go home and hug. Somebody it doesn't matter if they're a friend or a, relative as long as you love.

Them what about a chocolate.

Macaroon It's Chocolate Macaroon, day which happened on this day every.

Year.

Yeah it's a popular dessert made with, chocolate, icing, sugar egg, whites and nut. Garnishes macaroons are available in a range of, flavors but chocolate macaroons remain an undisputed favorite among.

Them have they got coconut in?

Them not quite. Sure it doesn't say coconut.

Here.

Yeah last TIME i had a, MACAAROON i went to an opening of they put On lamirs a couple of years. Ago they had a huge premiere party and like everage schlubs like me were. Invited but they had his big party, afterwards and they had.

All the macaroons there AND i was shoveling the damn.

Things they didn't realize what they were going to, Be, like nah they.

DID i embarrassed.

MYSELF i cut myself shaving the next day and macaroon used Out. Mike it's basically a small cake or. Cookie the chief, ingredients AS i, said are, almond power, powder egg, whites and ground sugar flavors are added per individual. Preference some dessert lovers also add coconut. Shavings there you, go condensed milk and.

Ground, nuts fatted.

Flavors so you know your, Macaroons, mike you're a man who nerves his. Macaroons they've been around since the eighth or ninth. Century they're first made By italian. Monks the name originates from The italian word, macarn which means. Paste it was until seventeen twenty five that the one of the first recipes for macaroons appears In Robert Smith's Court. Cookery NOW i did flag this with you, Yesterday, mike BECAUSE i was asking, you did you what was your interpretation as? Word It's national Simp?

Day oh, yes, Yeah well you, know if you RECALL i said a, simp at least in contemporary, parlance AS i, understand it is a kind of pathetic individual who desperately craves the. Attention probably it's a who craves a female's attention and is debasing himself horribly and is described by other males who disdain him as being a. Simp.

Yeah, WELL i had a different thought in mind for, it which comes up but actually goes through all of the different versions of it here because it also many men are called simps when they show sympathy towards another, person so obviously simps sorts of. Sympathy the turn is derogatory since it implies that man wants to sleep with a particular. WOMAN a, woman on the other, hand are called simps when they go all out from man and their love is not. RECIPROCATED a different meaning holds holds different. Meanings it holds based on gender and misogynistic and end up forming negative. Opinions but the definition of the word has evolved over the years and held different meanings for every. Century the term was first formed in nineteen eighty five BY.

Us rapper Too. Short have you ever heard of?

Him?

NO i wonder how he? Goes On, tinder who used it in his eighty five Hit. Pimpography the word was used to describe someone with overly. Sympathetic the term was also used to describe simpletons persons who were considered pretty. Stupid but with globalization and the emergence of numerous social media, platforms the word meaning a word. Change it now stands for a person who provides extra attention to somebody in return.

For their, love and so his album is Called. Pimpography, Yeah i've never heard of. Him, yeah he's obviously really enriched the. Culture thank you for. That too? Short, yeah well share too.

Short repeat.

Day it's a day to plan another spa, retreat book, reservations or that special, restaurant even find a new activity he'd love to repeat in the. Future so you've had done something in the past and he, thought, Oh i'm got to repeat that Because i'm going to hopefully.

Enjoy myself once.

Again, indeed just, Finally, mike this is SOMETHING i say this every year or every couple of.

WEEKS i, Say i've got to do. It World Bicycle. Day i've got a pretty good. BIKE i haven't used it in the.

YEARS i really need to go and get it basically just freshened up AND i need to get out there and use the damn.

Thing i've got some good bike tracks out my.

Way the ONE i have at the moment doesn't go, anywhere doesn't go.

Anywhere, no you just what's the stationary? One, yes like Mister stanley's.

Got oh is he going one of?

Those, yeah he's actually got. It up by his. Desk he's got one of those who considered his desk and.

Pedal, okay, YEAH i think the company ought to provide one either that or one of those walking, things you, know while we're doing, this just to keep us.

Fit, yeah he's just a couple of numbers BEFORE i. Disappear twelve point four percent Of americans cycle on a regic regular. Basis thirty five seats is the number of seats on the longest tandem BIKE Ef you imagine thirty five people sitting at like the goodies have got the three. Evens the three one sixty seven feet is the longest tanded bike ever. Built leg and three hundred and sixty four thousand a number of bicycles produced. Daily, yeah so time MAYBE i should get out that bike and go for a ride mic the Good.

Day that's my national days With. Dale so after the, divorce who ends up with the family pet to discuss this? Matter family lawyer principle of, Pages family Law Carol, Pages good Morning, carol thanks for doing, This.

Good Morning, mike thanks for having me.

On SO i guess the judges are thrilled about having to try to decide this in the tricky business of divorce. CASES i noticed we're not talking about the family pet there in future to be referred to as companion.

Animals, Yes, Mike so the companion animal definition is to pick up pets or animals rather that are not part of a, business an animal that makes an, income or like a breeding animal more or it's an animal cat on.

This doesn't.

Apply, okay so they're not considered. Property the compinion considered companion. ANIMALS i saw a headline the other day in A uk. Publication i'd know whether there it's just a bit of. Clickbait who knows what these? Things but this journalist claim to have done a survey and asked people if they had to lose their partner or their, pet which would they, Choose and he claims a lot of them said they'd rather keep the dog of the.

Cat oh, My.

I'm not SURE i could comment on. That my father than to SAY i don't deal with a lot of happy couples in this role THAT i, have so maybe that would be the.

Same.

ANYWAY i just mentioned that to make the point that the companion animal can be very. Important so what does the judge now have to take into account to decide who ends up with the labrador or.

Whatever so previously pets were only property for any sort of evidence about emotional. Attachment even if an animal was a therapy animal for, example for a child wasn't. Relevant the court couldn't decide. That so now the best interest of the pets will be a. Thing so it's things like who's been the main care of the, pets such as being the, pet walking their, pet taking them to, vets and otherwise looking after. Them the emotional connection of the pet to one party rather than the, other and includes emotional attachment of, Children so that's a really nice thing to take into account if it is in. Dispute, also they're living arrangements of the, pets so who's going to be able to provide the? Pet and really importantly if there's been any violence towards the pet or even more broadly within.

Relationship, okay but it does sound like it's, just you, know adding more complications for the. JUDGE i understand it needing to be. DONE i was talking to somebody actually off the air unofficially about, this and he'd recently been through a. Separation but he didn't argue he surrendered the pet because he said he couldn't really look after it because he works unusual.

Hours, yes and you do get that in. Matters but what you can still do even with these, changes because there won't be custody arrangements or like possible under these new changes of the. Law so it's either one, person one party or the other party was their pet will be. Owned but, informally absolutely there can be. Agreement so for, example the person that you were speaking to might reach an informal, plan And i've seen it done that one party might work even into state or have to dravel a, lot and the parties share the care of their dog or their cat or whatever it is between, them or even that the pet can travel along with the children so that the children spend a week at mum and a week at that the cat or dogs can travel alongside as. Well that can be done absolutely, informally but under their, changes not as part of court.

Orders oh, Okay so it wouldn't necessarily then be stipulated by the. Judge it's just something the couple have decided between them and it's not going to be a course of argument in the.

Court so that part.

The informal petnship or pet care, plan if you, like or a pet parenting, plan even as far as the ownership if you're in, dispute so who gets the? Labrador as you, said that can be decided by the. Court with that those factors take it to consideration that we spoke about, before about the emotional, attachment any abuse and so, forth and who has cared for the. Pet judge can absolutely make those decisions.

Now but you can really only evaluate the emotional attachment of the human beings to the, pet can't. YOU i mean it's you, know you can't judge whether the pet would be happy with one or the, other can.

You it'll be really interesting because there are a number of factors that to take it to a consideration when the core is making a. Decisions so a little bit of a fun, fact there are eight of those considerations to take into, account whereas when it comes to taking into consideration the best interests of the, children there are. Six so there's a couple. More BUT i imagine that it's going to mean that there's going to be a lot of. Evidence so who gives evidence for? This because the pet a view of the child like there is in parenting, matters there be a lot of evidence about what's going to be the emotional, attachment as you, say is going to be a very difficult thing to talk about in a.

Court so will people be there, saying you, know the animal always comes to me WHEN i come, home the cat sleeps on my, bed something like.

THAT i guess the changes are coming into effect from their tense Of, june so or like any other changes to the acts that we've, had it will remain to be. SEEN i guess the factors that stay the same are that it can be a very long and expensive process if they get to the, end and so there would be a lot of considerations that people would have to go through.

Prior to that.

Point to that, POINT i imagine it would be part of an overall dispute about their property and or parenting that if they're not able to agree.

Evident will be.

Interesting are they likely to bring in expert witnesses like a veterinarian or.

Something, WELL i don't think we've got that far, Yet, mike BUT i think we might have to have an update a year or so. Time by the time perhaps that the Full court have had a literally to have a look at this in more, detail that's when we'll know for, SURE i.

Guess.

Yeah, anyway it's an interesting. Shift but from this CONVERSATION i gather there's quite a lot still to be worked.

Out, oh the law is certainly in, place coming in next, week AND i think IT'S i think it's a nice thing taking into, account you, know what is the best of the, family BECAUSE i think it recognizes that pets are a very important part of people's families and sometimes can be a very difficult part of the separation. Process that in amongst deciding how their property is going to be divided and how your shared time with the, children there's also consideration in a relation to their family that is now going to be have some more decision making the call that they can decide if the parties can't. Agree so, yeah it remains to be seeing how it's going to turn out in.

Practice.

Interesting appreciate your time in comments as, Always, carol thank you for.

That thanks very, Much, mike good to talk to.

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