This week Nicola and Di chat with one of the top global thought leaders in mental health, Mitch Wallis. Mitch is most well known for being the founder of Heart On My Sleeve - a leading global mental health movement that helps people drop the brave face and be real about how they feel. He is also the author of Real Conversations, a powerful book which helps you connect with confidence and create healthy, supportive relationships. Mitch truly is an expert in his field, with a master’s degree in clinical psychology, he’s been an advisor to the United Nations on the topic of youth mental health and won a Man of Impact award by GQ. Not only that, Mitch is a talented speaker who has delivered talks to tens of thousands of people, and we were so lucky he shared so much of his wisdom in this episode. 

In this chat, Mitch gives us powerful ways that we can all learn to have meaningful and real conversations with one another, and how it is that we can truly connect. He explains the difference between talking and connecting, and why it is that if you try to fix someone’s problem, you will only make things worse. As Mitch says, the goal of a real conversation is not to fix a problem, but to understand the person.   

We hear about the 5 key mistakes that people make when they’re trying to connect with someone, and why we need to take a counter-intuitive approach. Mitch gives us so many ideas for how we can avoid these mistakes and learn to truly understand and support people.

Mitch also opens up about his own personal struggles with mental health, his lowest moments and the words from his mum that saved his life. We talk about the loneliness epidemic and how it’s vital that we prioritise connection, and Mitch reminds us how we can all do that. 

This was an incredibly powerful and inspiring conversation and we learnt so much from having Mitch in the studio with us. We hope you love it as much as we did, and we encourage you to share this special episode with your loved ones as everyone can benefit from hearing this. 

This episode is proudly sponsored by Eir Women. Use code OTBF15 at checkout to receive a 15% discount on any purchase. 

Follow Mitch on IG here

Follow Heart on My Sleeve on IG here

Buy Mitch’s book Real Conversations here

Listen to Mitch’s Podcast here

Find out more about Mitch’s work here

Find out more about the Heart on My Sleeve movement here 

Follow Nicola and Di on IG here

Follow Eir Women on IG here 

Find out more about Eir Women here and use code OTBF15 at checkout

This week Nicola and Di chat with one of the top global thought leaders in mental health, Mitch Wallis. Mitch is most well known for being the founder of <a href="https://www.heartonmysleeve.org/">Heart On My Sleeve</a> - a leading global mental health movement that helps people drop the brave face and be real about how they feel. He is also the author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Real-Conversations-Steps-Connect-Confidence-ebook/dp/B0D48SDTKS">Real Conversations</a>, a powerful book which helps you connect with confidence and create healthy, supportive relationships. Mitch truly is an expert in his field, with a master’s degree in clinical psychology, he’s been an advisor to the United Nations on the topic of youth mental health and won a Man of Impact award by GQ. Not only that, Mitch is a talented speaker who has delivered talks to tens of thousands of people, and we were so lucky he shared so much of his wisdom in this episode. 
In this chat, Mitch gives us powerful ways that we can all learn to have meaningful and real conversations with one another, and how it is that we can truly connect. He explains the difference between talking and connecting, and why it is that if you try to fix someone’s problem, you will only make things worse. As Mitch says, the goal of a real conversation is not to fix a problem, but to understand the person.   
We hear about the 5 key mistakes that people make when they’re trying to connect with someone, and why we need to take a counter-intuitive approach. Mitch gives us so many ideas for how we can avoid these mistakes and learn to truly understand and support people.
Mitch also opens up about his own personal struggles with mental health, his lowest moments and the words from his mum that saved his life. We talk about the loneliness epidemic and how it’s vital that we prioritise connection, and Mitch reminds us how we can all do that. 
This was an incredibly powerful and inspiring conversation and we learnt so much from having Mitch in the studio with us. We hope you love it as much as we did, and we encourage you to share this special episode with your loved ones as everyone can benefit from hearing this. 
This episode is proudly sponsored by <a href="https://eirwomen.com.au/">Eir Women</a>. Use code OTBF15 at checkout to receive a 15% discount on any purchase. 
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/mitch.wallis/">Follow Mitch on IG here</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/heartonmysleeve/">Follow Heart on My Sleeve on IG here</a>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com.au/Real-Conversations-Steps-Connected-Relationships/dp/064861915X/">Buy Mitch’s book Real Conversations here</a>
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0grlozy3OSWjnXmWJsAyDl?si=90AkH8n_RkyosMzudoCKIw&amp;nd=1&amp;dlsi=058693f17b1c4998">Listen to Mitch’s Podcast here</a>
<a href="https://www.mitchwallis.com/">Find out more about Mitch’s work here</a>
<a href="https://www.heartonmysleeve.org/">Find out more about the Heart on My Sleeve movement here </a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/">Follow Nicola and Di on IG here</a>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/eirforwomen/?hl=en">Follow Eir Women on IG here </a>
<a href="http://eirwomen.com.au">Find out more about Eir Women here and use code OTBF15 at checkout</a>

Di Edwards and Nicola Dale have been best friends for close to four decades & they actually share a ‘back fence’ in Sydney! 
They share a love of life, a passion for people, and have discovered a simple conversation over the back fence, can change a life and give a sense of belonging . 

“We’re not neuroscientists, psychologists, doctors or monks - we just love people - and know with age comes wisdom."

Di Edwards and Nicola Dale have been best friends for close to four decades &amp; they actually share a ‘back fence’ in Sydney!  They share a love of life, a passion for people, and have discovered a simple conversation over the back fence, can change a life and give a sense of belonging . 
“We’re not neuroscientists, psychologists, doctors or monks - we just love people - and know with age comes wisdom."

Over the Back Fence

Over the back fence is a podcast by two incredible women in their 50’s and 60’s - for women.

Di and Nicola have an infectious energy that is bound to light you up. It’s a podcast which values community, connection and lifting each other up. 

Here, Di and Nicola will delve in to the highs and lows they’ve experienced in life… From starting a family, experiencing marriage breakdowns, to embracing new beginnings. They’ll discuss the lessons they’re still learning, and interview people with inspiring stories to tell. 

Di and Nicola will invite guests on OTBF from all over the globe. From close friends, entrepreneurs, comedians, councillors to motivators and life coaches - to unlock their wisdom and have a laugh along the way.

Over the back fence is a podcast by two incredible women in their 50’s and 60’s - for women.
Di and Nicola have an infectious energy that is bound to light you up. It’s a podcast which values community, connection and lifting each other up. 
Here, Di and Nicola will delve in to the highs and lows they’ve experienced in life… From starting a family, experiencing marriage breakdowns, to embracing new beginnings. They’ll discuss the lessons they’re still learning, and interview people with inspiring stories to tell. 
Di and Nicola will invite guests on OTBF from all over the globe. From close friends, entrepreneurs, comedians, councillors to motivators and life coaches - to unlock their wisdom and have a laugh along the way.

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