Jason and Rich react to the retirement of Detroit Pistons great Chauncey Billups and the death of Marvin "Bad News" Barnes. We discuss Billups' rocky start with the Boston Celtics, bouncing around the NBA including stops in Toronto, Orlando, Denver and Minnesota before finally finding his NBA home in Detroit. Discussions include Billups' reputation, his HOF candidacy, his ranking among PGs both in the 2000s and all-time and much more. Then, we touch the life and career of Marvin "Bad News" Barnes, the troubled, but talented late ABA star.