Em Davies Unexpected Pregnancy Announcement, Steph Claire Smith Addresses Breakup Rumours, Kayla Itsines hits Back & Our  V-Day Wrap

Published Feb 19, 2024, 1:32 PM

Em Davies has shocked her followers by announcing she’s pregnant to her fiancé, Joel Gambin. 

Steph Claire Smith addresses break up rumours following husband Josh's surprise disappearance from social media. 

Kayla Itsines has shut down a troll for calling her four-year-old daughter annoying. 

And the boyfriend of Instagram who won Valentine's Day. 

 

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Coming up on today's show, m Davies unexpected pregnancy announcement, Olivia Rodgers, and Justin McKean's communication breakdown, and Kaylor had seen us hits back at a troll who called her daughter annoying. Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm Kate Torba, and it's just Amy and I today. Sophie is just absolutely exhausted from Taylor Swood even though you and I were the ones that drove for ten hours yesterday. I feel like there's a lot of passive aggressiveness in that introduction, and I'd like to remain quiet on all fronts. But yes, it is just you and I today, and I'm still buzzing off the Taylor Swift concert. I'm sitting here. I look like the biggest saddo. I've been wearing this same shirt for the past two days, which is one of Taylor Swift's concert shirts. It just got her face emblazoned on it. You are a bit of a superfan because it's very hot today and adelaide at thirty four degrees. I arrived there was no air cone on and you had this long sleeve jumper on. But you've got a rep Taylor. I was disappointed because when I went to go buy some merch only the large sizes were left, Like everything was way too big. But you and my our friend just made a desperate purchase. You're like, I don't care what size it did. I'm just gonna get it. Well, oversized stuff is in fashion anyway, That's what I'm telling myself. At least, I'm actually very jealous. I didn't buy it. I have scoped out you got the t shirt version. There is this really cool T shirt that says Kansas City Swifts and it's all of Taylor Swift's best moments from the Super Bowl. I realized there's a jumper version of it, so I'm going to get that for my birthday. Yes. I was so devastated because I ordered this on Express Posts and it arrived on the day that we drove to the concert, so I just missed it. Oh, we got the message and we were like halfway there. I'm like, sorry, we're not going that. There's still so much to talk about, but we will do that with Sophie in our Subs episode this week, all about the Eras tour. I got a hundred roses because those are just the lunchtime roses. These are the breakfast roses I woke up to.

If he wanted to, he would.

Valentine's Day it was back in full fourth across our social feeds this year, with influencers embracing it now. I feel like for a while people didn't post about it, and I love that it's back because I'm so nosy. I like to see what people are doing, whether it's influencers or just regular people. Yeah. I really enjoyed seeing everyone's Valentine's Days this year. I think it has a lot to do with how popular TikTok is. Yeah, it's almost as if this younger generation are making the same mistakes we did back when we had Instagram, because I remember there was a time and I think it's really burnt in my memory because I was single where it was so overwhelming and upsetting being on Instagram on Valentine's Day because people would be sharing the most ostentageous stuff and you'd just be like, I didn't get anything. But I think people care more about Valentine's Day when they're single. It seems to be a bigger deal. Yeah, it definitely is a much bigger day when you're single. I think Galentine's Day has helped with that though, and that might be why people are more freely sharing what they actually do on Valentine's Day, because it seems a little bit more equal. There's a day for singles and then also couples.

Yeah.

I also noticed that a lot of influencer business owners held these Gallantine's Day parties in their office. I just couldn't imagine a regular office doing this. I mean, at some of the places I've worked, we were lucky to get a Christmas party. Maybe we needed to do one for Outspoken. I'm sad that I only saw this after Valentine's Day. Well, I think it's because the majority of these influencer run businesses are actually run by females and they get it. So Steph Pace she went all out. She had a vintage cake and roses and balloons for all of the staff. Yeah. Georgie Stevenson was also handing out roses at her office. I think Sammy Robinson took the cake pun intended because she had a cake decorating competition on Valentine's Day. I almost feel like it was perfect for her because we did speak about last week how she appears to be single and what would be better than having a full cake to eat on Valentine's Day night by herself Georgie Stevenson. She really backed it up because not only was she having Gallantine's Day celebrations in the office, but she also had a very romantic evening with her husband Tim, so in the morning she surprised him with coffees, donuts and chocolates. She also shared the card that she gave him. So in the card she asked him if he would like to be her Valentine's Day and she had a tick box and I was like yes, no. She also shared this handmade voucher she had given him and it said that he got a twenty four hour trip away, couple's massage, and a lot of sex. And she did share some advice for keeping the spark alive after twelve years together, which was act like the same seventeen and twenty one year old, horny teenage as you were when you first met. It's quite specific advice. Well, I don't know if Tim at twenty one would have been organizing the same surprises that he did. For Georgie this year. He might have been just as horny this year one year himself, but he organized this epic romantic dinner on their balcony and it was overlooking the beach. You do forget how incredible their view is. I don't forget because I see it quite often, and every time I see it, I'm like, holy shit, how are they living in that place? No.

I looked at it.

I was like, surely that's a restaurant, Like, that's not their house. Yeah. Not only did it not look like their house, but the table was professionally decorated, so he got someone in to do these incredible floral bouquets. They kind of looked like they belonged on a wedding table rather than on a Valentine's Day table. They also had their regular private chef cook them a three course meal. Sorry, do they have a regular private chef? Yes? They do. Fire out because on TikTok, I've got into this hole where they have private chefs who share all of their recipes and stuff. So I've recently followed this chef who works for an NBA player and his wife, and some of the food that they make it looks absolutely incredible if I mean, this just reminds me of a conversation we had while driving to the Eras too. It would be what would you do or what would you spend your money on if you won the lottery? I think private chef definitely. I think that would be a great investment. I always wonder does Taylor Swift have a private chef because totally I mean when she there was rumors that she was staying at the Crown Hotel in the Penthouse, obviously they would have the best chef's cooking for her there. But when she's home, surely she has a private chef. Like I think she likes to bake cookies and stuff. But when it comes to you know, every night having dinner as if you wouldn't as if Tata Swift as a billionaire wouldn't have a private chef. Yeah. Well, anyway, back to Valentine's Day, Steph Claire Smith and her husband Josh also shared what they gave each other. So interestingly, Steph gave her husband flowers as well as a homemade card, and he repaid the favor giving her roses and a card from him and their son Harvey. I found it very interesting that they both shared what they got each other because there have been these rumors circulating that they have broken up, and they actually squashed the rumors a day earlier on Steph's kick Bump podcast. Let's throw to a bit of what they said, like, we won't just leave each other. We need to keep talking and then leave each other. Is in the room, might as well tackle that rumor that's going around that we've you know, separated, which was so random, but I think it was because you deleted it's social media.

Over the summer side, I was leading into Christmas, I was heavily doing social media work and it was just doing my head in towards end of the year because there's a lot on my plate. I took on a lot, which was good for one part, but bad failure.

You just said yes to too much.

At one point, Josh went on to explain that he ended up deleting Instagram and TikTok so he could have a break from work, and then reactivated it when he returned from their summer holiday. I wonder how the brands felt that he worked with because normally in those sorts of influencer contracts, it says that you have to have the content up for a set amount of time. Maybe that's why he reactivated. Maybe a few of them have reminded him of that obligation well, as was STEP's best friend Laura hen Shure. She actually filmed herself getting into her car with Dalton and asked him where her Valentine's Day present was. She then followed up with a post on her story that read jokes aside a reminder that the amount of flowers and gifts, etc. Given is not a representation of how much someone loves you. Slash your relationship. They are a beautiful gesture, but please don't compare yourlationship to anyone else's on here. Slash what other people did today. Also a reminder being in a relationship or not does not make you less worthy of love. You're so worthy of love, your relationship status has nothing to do with that. I think that's an important message to remember on Valentine's Day.

Yeah.

I do actually really like that. I think a lot of people genuinely needed to see that on Valentine's Day. Also to see that Laura Henshaw didn't get anything from Valentine's Day. Yeah, I think that it's kind of normalizes that not everyone does get something even if you are wealthy. What do you think about Sophie Kaisha giving her kids a Valentine's Day card that read that she'd never love any partner as much as them? Do you think that's I felt uncomfortable watching the video because she filmed them reading it out, and it's almost like she was using them as a bit of a weapon against her ex, like to make a point. She then backed it up by sharing a bunch of flowers and a gift that she received and wrote grateful for the love surrounding me. I was guessing that it was a family or friend that gave her the flowers, but she was also trying to be a bit about it as well, because she did have love story playing in the background, so that you would think that was from someone that was trying to be romantic. Meanwhile, the men of the UK were putting Ossie men to shame. So English YouTuber Saffron Parker's rugby player turned NFL hopeful boyfriend Lewis Reesambert, surprised her with a very elaborate Valentine's Day setup. So it started with a bunch of roses when she opened her bedroom door. Then there were these single roses and petals scattered down the hallway and down her staircase, and it all led to this big love heart made up of roses. And in the middle of this love heart, there was an I Love You balloon. There was a chocolate gift basket. There was also a teddy gift basket. There were bunches of roses, so he literally ticked all the boxes. There was also a wrapped gift which ended up being from Louis Vauton. When I see this sort of stuff, I think, oh, that's lovely for her, But you just think how much of this is actually for social media and how much of this is just genuinely for her. Well, she captured the video when your boyfriend is in a different country but still manages to pull this off on Valentine's Day, And when I initially saw it, I was like, oh, thank god, because she has been very down on her podcast. She put out there that she wanted him to send her a postcard or a letter, yeah, just say saying that he loves her, but he hasn't done it. And I was like, oh, good on him for actually doing it. But then I caught up on her Valentine's Day episode, and she literally sounded like she pressured him to do it, Like she did say something about that she feels a lot more pressure when Valentine's Day rolls around as an influencer, because if she doesn't have one of these like wanky displays of affection, she's probably gonna copy in her comments. So I felt like she was almost prepping the boyfriend for now, you're in a relationship with me, this is what I kind of expect, and this is what you need to do so you're not labeled to shit boyfriend online. I also think there was added pressure because the rhetoric has been that he's kind of just got up and left her, and I think a lot of people are like, oh, this relationship's going to end, So he did need to do something flash she But I did find an awkward listening to her podcast because she was talking about how after this NFL training camp they off to the Male Dies and she purposely sent him a video or a photo from the hotel that they're staying at where there were rose pedals on the bed, and apparently he said to her, oh, how does that get organized? Apparently he thought that men actually had to bring the rose pedals with them and scatter them themselves. Yeah, and she's like, well, obviously you just ring the hotel in advance, and they do it. So I almost feel like she must have dropped a lot of hints to be like, this is how you set something up when you were overseas. Do you think her mom and dad also helped? Oh? I feel like he must have got on the call to Wendy her mom and said, look, it probably must make it happen, or maybe the mom did the headside. Yeah, it probably wouldn't have been worth their while. Well, this video has attracted one point three million views on Instagram and seven hundred and eighty thousand views on TikTok, so he obviously got the brief right. He definitely did. I am very interesting to hear the follow up podcast to see how it all actually went down. Yeah. Well, Tommy Fury was also in fine form, so he organized a staycation in the Lakes District for Molly May and he also organized this huge bunch of sweet Valentine's Day treats for her, which included vintage cakes, sugar cookies, macarines, and brownies. It sounds right up Molly's alley because she's always just wanting to relax and just want She had it all spread out when she got home on their kitchen bench, and I did think it was pretty cute because she's got into baking recently. She ended up making Tommy a homemade cake. This said I Love you on it, So it was all pretty cute, but again performative for social media. I feel like that's the most genuine gift out of all of them. The cake o hers to him. Yeah, but again I feel like he probably knows it's not worth his while. He's trying to get out of the doghouse after being in that nightclub incident recently. I just want to go back to Saffron. What did Saffron give her partner. Well, she was talking on her podcast about how she was putting this big care package together for him for his birthday, and it all sounded very generous and very thoughtful, so I'm sure she did do something as well. He probably didn't want to really publicize that on his own social media. Can you see his teammates, Like, can imagine them finding out maybe a pillow with his face on it, like she got him. Now, we were on the money last week when we spoke about UK YouTuber Anastasia kingsnos So. In the week leading into Valentine's Day, we spoke about how she shared how she'd been receiving love letters from a secret admirer, and the day before Valentine's Day, she went on her stories and spoke about how this delivery of a massive bouquet flowers, it would have been like one hundred roses, had arrived at her house and she was saying that it was accompanied by this note that was inviting her on this Valentine's Day dinner at her favorite restaurant, and she was saying she was a little bit creeped out about it and hypothesizing who could it be. She said she was actually going to turn up on the date with some friends but thought she was being pranked. Now, as we suspected, this was all part of a promotional scheme. It wasn't for a brand though, it was actually for Anna Stage. So on Valentine's Day she ended up announcing that she is bringing out a book called Relationship Status. So she said it was her biggest secret to date and her proudest moment. Kind of reminds me of that Gorilla marketing campaign for that butt plug, remember that peach thing, and that those poor girls were getting these like ransom style notes. At least in this case, Anastasia was aware of what was happening. She set the prank up herself. Yeah, I don't know what I think about her releasing a book. I suppose there's so many influencer books out in the market. I'm sure it will probably sell out, But it just seems like a bit of an odd topic because she's only ever had one boyfriend. Yeah, but she does have a relationship podcast, and I think she's been in a lot of situationships and there would be so many people in the same situation because I think society puts out this message that everyone has so many boyfriends and goes aren't so many dates, and I do think that has increased with dating apps. Yeah, However, I do think there are a lot of people that are in their mid twenties that are like, Wow, I actually haven't had a proper boyfriend. I've only just been messed around by these guys. So she probably is a good person to write about it. Well, if it comes out in an audio book, I will probably listen to it with my audible account. I'm sure it will. Now it has been revealed what Travis Kelce gave Taylor Swift for Valentine's Day. I love this. So a source apparently close to the couple has dished the details, including the price tags of each item. Before we get into it. Do you think this is a part of PR for Travis Kelsey. He's had a big week. People are getting the it from him. I know a lot of the sentiment at the concert when I spoke to people was that she needs to give him the flick. Well, everyone was saying, oh, there's been a few red flags. Was obviously that incident where he was like shoved his coach and screamed at him. When I saw the headline, I did immediately think, I think this has his PR team all over it. There were too many details there were let's get into what he apparently gave her. So apparently, when Taylor arrived in Australia, it would have been Valentine's Day in the US and she was greeted at her hotel with an arrangement of two hundred and fifty eternity roses. I love this detail that were displayed inside a Parisian inspired hat box. Now apparently these cost two thousand, one hundred dollars, and the journalist has clearly done some googling because on the website it says that they can actually last a whole year with minimal care and attention, just what Taylor needs. Yeah, but then the article also claims that six hours after these eternity roses arrived, a hot pink floral arrangement arrived that costs another twenty one hundred How would they know the timings of this, Yeah, exactly. And it didn't stop there. Apparently Travis also gave Taylor a handmade rose sculpture by a luxury design company called Perry Gold, which costs three thousand, one hundred dollars, and apparently the sculpture is meant to represent infinite love and unforgettable emotion. So the close source to the couple went on to tell the media, Travis knows what she likes and is always wanting to send her lots of nice flowers. Taylor can have the little rose sculpture with her at all times now. Actually reminded me one of my friends when she got married. She's not with her husband anymore, but apparently for their first Valentine's Day together he bought her a rosebush and said, okay, well, we're all sort of for the next couple of Valentine's Day. That kind of gives me this vibe. It's like, I know she likes flowers, but I've given her this one that she can bring everywhere with her. Now, that's just an example how men's brains work differently than women. They're like just so practical. It is pretty practical now. As well as flowers, Travis also picked out some other items for Taylor that she can wear when he joins her for the European leg of her tour. So he gave her a black lambskin Dior beret to wear in Paris apparently that costs oney one hundred, a Rmez scarf, a Selene straw hat, and a Botaga handbag which apparently costs five one hundred. Have you noticed that everything ends in one hundred? Yeah, that's weird. I mean, at first, when I read this article, I wondered, was there some kind of deal with some of these brands, because being mentioned the whole time, like the flower companies, think he wants to prove that he's rich and that he has money to spend on her.

No.

I think it's more so he wants to prove to the Swifties that he's treating Taylor well. Ever, I mean, I didn't think some of the gifts wereout impressive, like to be on fourteen thousand dollars worth of gifts, well not if you're a billionaire. I actually think the Swifties would have liked it a lot more if the gifts had been sentimental and meaningful in terms of Oh he sent her a I was going to say a mixtape, but do you know what I mean? He said hand written? Less? IM not sure he did as well. Yeah, like a photo album of all the memories that they had together, or or something that was thoughtful. This kind of some of the stuff wasn't very nice. They looked a bit tacky.

Oh.

I mean there's a few designer gifts in there that I wouldn't say a tacky. But I just want to know, well, I want to know what did Travis get his last girlfriends, Like was he picking her up, you know, the service station, bunch of flowers and she's reading this going what the fuck?

I know.

The source also told the publication that Travis wanted to show Taylor how much he cares about her and the upcoming months to come as they will try together all around the world. So it did seem like he was trying to theme up the additional gifts to Europe. But see, I'm all here though, to be won over by Travis again. I agree that there were a few issues with the Super Bowl that kind of raised a few eyebrows, but I still want to buy into this relationship. I want the love story at the end where Taylor is happy with Travis. Oh, definitely, we all want that for Taylor. I think people are kind of forgetting that he is an athlete and when you're playing sport you get white line fever. And he's also probably been drunk for the last week. I was going to say, we're assholes when we're on the netball court, like we're super competitive at social netball, so can you imagine if we were actually playing for anything worthy. I'm pregnant, of course, I'm going to drink on our college prosecco.

She's pregnant, of course, I'm happy that her tits have tripled inside.

M Davies shocked her followers on Valentine's Day by announcing she's pregnant to her fiancee Joel Gamp And now I was I'm so surprised when I saw this announcement because she has been sharing so much about her wedding plans and she's also recently locked in her reception dress, so it's going to be interesting to see whether she does postpone this wedding. Well, her wedding is in February twenty twenty five, and her baby is due August twenty twenty four, so there is a six month gap in between the two big occasions. But I was the same. I was really thrown because normally, I mean, of course, it's fine to get married when you're pregnant, like if you've got a pregnant belly. Yeah, but I know that she has been really focusing on getting her dress right and locking it in, and she was asking people, oh, how long in advance did you do it? And I would think if you knew you were pregnant, you'd be like, oh shit, I might just hold off on that until I work out what's the go I do think she's got a bit of time in between, though, so it should all be okay. Yeah, what did you think of the announcement, because it's a bit different to some of the more recent influence of baby announcements in terms of it was such high production value like this video. It was almost like a mini documentary and some people were even saying in our Facebook community that it reminded them of a Calvin Klein ad And once I heard that, I could not unsee it. Oh yeah, I mean she was rocking Calvin Klein's in it. So for those who haven't seen the video, there were behind the scenes vision from this pregnancy photo shoot that em and Joel did, and she literally had her calvins pulled up and her jeans buttoned down with a white singlet. It was a beautiful shoot. I mean, the photos looked incredible. But I agree with you though, it was strange to see an influencer share this type of video with a high production level, because we have been seeing influencers toning it down and trying to be real on the video.

Yeah.

I suppose she was vulnerable in this video though, because she spoke about how when her mum sadly passed away, she decided that she didn't want to have children, but her fiance Joel, has changed all of that, and then he spoke a lot about what sort of a mum he thinks she will be, and it was really quite emotional and touching. I was just so shocked. I wasn't expecting any of it. I actually liked it, but I don't know that's because I'm a videographer. I actually do like when people put in that extra effort. It was sort of it was different to what I've seen, and I know that em is a bit more like that, like she's a bit artsy, so it kind of worked well for them. Yeah, I wonder if we'll seeing more influences doing that style, because it kind of made it like it was a even bigger announcement. Like obviously a baby announcement in an influencer's career is probably one of the biggest announcements they'll make in terms of engagement, but it kind of seemed bigger than Ben hur the way they did it. Yeah, and it had a real buzz around it, so I think it was because it was a surprise. She did back it up by filming a lot of content for TikTok. So she filmed her reaction to taking a pregnancy test, and it was pretty interesting because the pregnancy test that she used was actually out of date, so she goes, oh, I've done it, but it actually expired back in December twenty twenty two, so she had to go and then get another pregnancy test, but the expired one even came up that she was pregnant, so she's like, shit, I did find it interesting because I didn't realize she actually has PCOS and was told by a doctor it would be really hard for her to get pregnant. So I suppose that just adds another layer to the whole story. She did film Jog's reaction as well, but apparently one of the telltale signs for her that she was pregnant was that she was really tired and her boobs had grown really big. So apparently he was already aware of her bigger boobs. He was cottoning onto it. He wasn't that shock. So she ended up wrapping up the two pregnancy tests in a parcel and got him to open. Well. The money shot in this video, though, was Lily Brown's reaction. Let's throw to her response, I makeup, bro.

I can't. I knew this was the call, and you were going to tell me why I didn't? Man, oh wown's knew days.

So this video has wrapped up seven point seven million views at the time of recording on TikTok. I just love how expressive Lily's face is in these videos. Like you can see why these videos go off. It was a little awkward though, because there was another compilation which included em telling Lucy and Nikki and obviously they've had recent beef with Lily. That did really stand out, didn't it. Now. Em shared that they already have the gender in an envelope, but they're waiting for her other best friend to come home in March before they open it up. She did put a poll on her Instagram asking followers to vote whether they think it's a boy or a girl. I feel like there is a lot of pregnancy content to come and I'm here for it.

Should I do some exercise after this?

No? Kayla has seen us has shut down a troll for calling her four year old daughter annoying. Now. The drama started when the Finnis influencer shared a video of her cooking alongside her daughter. Now, for those who don't follow Kayla, she has been sharing these really cute cooking with Anna videos to her Instagram, which are really popular. The one in question actually has over two million views already. Now. In this particular video, Kayla and Anna were dipping fruit and melted chocolate, and Anna was joking around saying Kayla had to leave her some this time, let's throw to what was said.

Okay, so everyone's gonna have a bite back then, not gonna it them like mummy yesterday.

I definitely didn't do that. I've got very annoyed at mummy.

I just don't understand watching that, Like we were laughing and thinking so cute. How anyone could be rude to that child? I know that's the issue though. When these videos go viral, you get all these cockheads. That's like suddenly they don't know who Kayla is, they don't know the content, and they just hate the world. Well, this person actually said that they were a fan of Kayla and I really liked her. So this person wrote under it, I mean it was in a trial account. They go, okay, honest, Now am I the only one who finds this child annoying? Now? Kayla's sister Leah jumped into the comments, replying, lol, who the fuck writes this about a four year and that comment, at the time of recording, has over fifteen hundred likes on it. Kayla also responded to Leah writing on an unrelated topic, have you ever seen the movie The Purge now? Kayla's husband Jay responded saying, I love that movie. Now. I had to do some digging because I'm not familiar with the movie. So from what I've read, the premise of that movie is that there's an annual holiday in the US called the Purge where one night every year, American citizens are given twelve hours of complete freedom to commit whatever crimes they please. Now, a lot of people chimed in saying how ridiculous the comment was, to which the troll responded, sorry, but not sorry. Some children acute, but not all dot dot dot. It's not about having a personality or confidence. Some personalities are ick now. Kayla ended up sharing the troll comment on her Instagram story and wrote, ten years of comments and this is the most idiotic one I ever had. She then followed up sharing a video of Anna giving a sassy look to the camera with sunglasses on, with the lyrics saying that she was a boss, and then another photo of Anna at her and Jay's wedding with the caption She's the best. I love that, Kayla stuck up for Anna. We don't normally see Kayla calling out trolls, but I think this was necessary. Yeah, I'm glad she did. I mean, I'm sure Kayla's used to seeing nasty comments about herself because she's been on social media for such a long time, but there must be something so awful about seeing someone comment on your child. It's just ridiculous. I mean, there is an argument that maybe she shouldn't share her kids online, but they're not a focus of her content. They'll pop up from time to time, and it was just a very sweet video that was meant to be a bit of fun, funny. And I don't understand because it's not like I love watching people's kids in lots of content, But in that piece, Arna was hilarious. It's like she's a real personality. It seems like a really cool little girl. So I don't know, there's obviously something going on in that person's life to be saying that sort of stuff. Do you think it's jealousy because a lot of people will look at her and be like, Oh, they probably just assume because Kayla and Toby have a lot of money, that, oh, this kid is spoiled. Yeah, but I mean, how sad are you if you're jealous of a four year old child? Exactly? Chocolate strawberries. Oh, I'm not trying to justify it, but I'm just thinking, like, why would anyone ever ride that? What's with all these influencer incidents involving strawberries recently? Like we had muggait, what's the next one? Sorry?

Mom, but I've never really seen what it is you actually do. Are just are I pe are things place concepts. I make the crap into a credible I make the doll in deliciouslicious.

Over the weekend, Olivia Rogers's ex husband, Justin mckinn announced his dog, Ziggy, had sadly passed away. Now this is the dog he shared with Olivia. The post received an outpouring of grief, but it quickly became apparent that Olivia had not yet been notified. I could not believe this when I was told. So we were driving on our way back from Melbourne to Adelaide and Sophie just blurted out, oh my god, and I was like, oh, what's happened? And I feel like when you are a pet owner, even though we've never met the dog, you do feel so sad because I felt like I knew that dog. We've seen him grow up on Instagram over the last five years. Such a gorgeous dog. And I think I added an extra layer because it seems like Ziggy has really been a big part of Olivia in Justin's breakup, in the sense that they were quite public about who wanted to keep the dog, and there was back and forth about it. Olivia clearly wasn't really happy with the arrangement, and we did see that Justin ended up keeping Ziggy and Olivia was able to visit him now and then, but it seemed like that stopped since she started dating Morgan Waterhouse. Well, when you are in a couple, especially a married couple, if you don't have children, your dog is like your child. So it was Ziggy was a big part in their split, and my heart really did break for Justin because he shared a photo of himself with Ziggy and he wrote, it's with nothing but sadness. I report Ziggy has passed away suddenly of natural causes. My companion, my rock, my best mate. I'm heartbroken. Rest in peace, buddy, I love you. It's just so awful, particularly because when you read natural causes. You're like, well, what happened? The dog seemed healthy, it was pretty young, So I immediately went over to Olivia Rodgers account to see if she had posted any more information. So at the moment, she's actually away in Fiji on a sponsored trip, so she has been working with Tourism Fiji and Luxury Escapes. And she didn't comment on it until three hours after Justin's post, and she wrote, I am heartbroken to hear about Darling Ziggy. Thank you for all your lovely messages. Unfortunately I also found out from social media and I don't know what happened, so please refrain from asking me questions. Rest in peace, beautiful boy. I miss you every day. I was doubly shocked when I read that, because can you imagine being overseas and your beloved dog passes away and you only find out because your followers are messaging you about it. Surely Justin should have let her know. I know that's like a nightmare because she probably got this onslaught of people dming her and you know that confusion. You're like, wait a second, what's going on? I wonder if because Justin's in a new relationship, maybe the girlfriend was like, Oh, I don't know, not to blame her, but I'm saying I just wonder if he's not speaking to her at the moment, or maybe she's got his number blocked, Like maybe there's some other reason why she wasn't in formed. Well, it just makes you think what is going on in that relationship, particularly because she was allowed at one point to look after him and take him on walks. I would have thought the civil thing to do would to be give her a heads up before you put it on social media, particularly to explain what's actually happened. Yeah, but you've got to remember as well, they were being civil before either of them had new partners.

Yeah, and that.

Always changes everything.

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Well.

Under Justin's post, Ziggy's breeder wrote a heartfelt message saying Diggy has been the constant joy since your first meeting. His life was vibrant and full, a testament to the dedication you invested from the initial application. Through rigorous questions and research, you followed through on your promise in stealing discipline and kindness. The result is a remarkable example of the love and respect between chow chows and their devoted owners. Your patient's attentive care and the wonderful home you provided made all the difference. A heartfelt salute to a fantastic chow parent. That is a really interesting message. I wonder if that breeder had been copying messages from people concerned about what happened. I mean, they're clearly saying Justin is a great owner. He's on everything he can, so it's just such an awful story. Yeah. Well, an hour after Olivia shared her story, Justin's new girlfriend Tani she had a tribute to Ziggy, so she ended up posting three Instagram stories, one of her walking Ziggi which said sweet boy, I miss you so much already. There was also a gorgeous photo of him which said rest in peace, and a video of Justin and Ziggi cuddling. I am glad that Tarani did wait for Olivia to share her posts. I think she would have opened herself up to a bit of criticism if she hadn't. It just makes you feel so sad. Let's wrap things up there. This podcast was recorded on the traditional land of the Ghana people of the Adelaid Planes. We pay respect to Elder's past and present. Now, if you did like the show, please leave us a five star review,

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