TS Madison is joined by actor, model, songwriter, music producer, trans icon, (and Miss Mary’s celebrity crush), Laith Ashley!

On “Outlaws,” we want to open up a space for guests to break their identity and discuss the big issues in the LGBTQ+ community. With a background in social work for queer youth and too many “first trans man to–” labels to count (not to mention, a Taylor Swift music video appearance), Laith is the perfect guest to get into the trans experience.

Laith opens up about his early experiences with gender nonconformity, messaging around not being “feminine” enough, and eventually growing into his identity as a trans man. He and Maddie discuss their respective experiences being trans entertainers in the spotlight– including the lessons they’ve learned both from within and outside of the community. 

Also: The fluidity of labels; why Laith identifies as “Afro-Caribbean” rather than “Latino”; T4T relationships; how anti-intellectualism and transphobia feed off of each other; the importance of sexual health education; and a brief interlude on the US’s imperial history.

And Maddie says this discussion is not over… maybe a part 2 in the New Year?

"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.