"Hurt people don't hurt people. A lot of hurt people heal people. Let's talk about that."

TS Madison interviews Johnny Sibilly, an actor, host, and producer known for "Hacks," "Pose," and his award-nominated digital series "Sip" on Logo. @johnnysibilly

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"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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"Hurt people don't hurt people. A lot of hurt people heal people. Let's talk about that."
TS Madison interviews Johnny Sibilly, an actor, host, and producer known for "Hacks," "Pose," and his award-nominated digital series "Sip" on Logo. @johnnysibilly
This episode is presented by MISTR. Visit Mistr.com today. Promo code: OUTLAWZ
"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by <a href="https://www.turtlerunent.com">Turtle Run Entertainment</a>.
Join our Patreon for exclusive content: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/outlawswithtsmadison">www.patreon.com/outlawswithtsmadison</a>

Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from "RuPaul's Drag Race" to Beyoncé’s "Renaissance." Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming. Each week on "Outlaws," Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal. Some episodes will crack you up. Others may crack you open. Keep the tissues nearby, just in case. "Outlaws" is proud to be part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, in partnership with Turtle Run Entertainment.

Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?!&nbsp;TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn&rsquo;t just go viral &mdash; she became part of the culture, from "RuPaul's Drag Race" to Beyonc&eacute;&rsquo;s "Renaissance." Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn&rsquo;t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming. Each week on "Outlaws," Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories &mdash; turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal. Some episodes will crack you up. Others may crack you open. Keep the tissues nearby, just in case. "Outlaws"&nbsp;is proud to be part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, in partnership with Turtle Run Entertainment.

Outlaws with TS Madison

Johnny Sibilly: A Mirror You Cannot Shatter

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Five-time Grammy and Emmy nominated comedian, actress, and activist — and one of Vogue's Best Female Comedians of All Time, right alongside Joan Rivers and Gilda Radner — Margaret Cho joins TS Madison in the "Outlaws" studio for an unforgettable episode. She's fresh off being cast in "Percy Jackson" Season 2 alongside Sandra Bernhard and Kristen Schaal, starring in Greg Araki's new film "I Want Your Sex" with Olivia Wilde and Charli XCX, and touring her brand new stand-up show "CHOLIGARCHY" — where she's fighting fascism one joke at a time.

Madison opens by honoring Margaret as a personal inspiration — and reveals the two already have history: a moment backstage at GLAAD where Margaret didn't need an introduction because she'd been following Madison for years.

This episode gets into everything past, present, and future: Margaret unpacks happened when network executives greenlit a show based on her life and then decided she was too fat to play herself — and how Hollywood's playbook still hasn't changed. 

Fast forward to today, she talks death threats, Homeland Security, and what it's like to be a loud, queer, Asian American woman with a decades-long target on her back, having built a career on not only making people laugh but also fearlessly speaking truth to power.

Also: a state of the union regarding the trans community in America, Dave Chappelle, surviving abuse, comedy as a weapon, the Diddy trial, and Margaret's "wet and woke" vision for the future.

In Atlanta? Catch Margaret Cho's new live show "CHOLIGARCHY" coming to you THIS WEEK on March 14th at The Buckhead Theatre. Get your tickets now!

SUBSCRIBE ON YOUTUBE: Watch our episodes at www.youtube.com/outlawswithtsmadison.Check out past episodes with Billy Porter, Mo'Nique, Jasmine Crockett, and more! 

NOW ON PATREON: Wish this episode was longer? Head over to our brand-new PATREON at www.patreon.com/outlawswithtsmadison. Become a member today and access our new weekly bonus series, "STILL RECORDING." This is the "Outlaws" after-party, where you'll get 15 more glorious minutes of Maddie and Margaret cuttin' up. Launched last week, you'll also get 20 more minutes with our last guest Billy Porter – and you'll continue to get more time with Maddie and your faves whenever new episodes drop. 

"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

Five-time Grammy and Emmy nominated comedian, actress, and activist &mdash; and one of Vogue's Best Female Comedians of All Time, right alongside Joan Rivers and Gilda Radner &mdash; Margaret Cho joins TS Madison in the "Outlaws" studio for an unforgettable episode. She's fresh off being cast in "Percy Jackson" Season 2 alongside Sandra Bernhard and Kristen Schaal, starring in Greg Araki's new film "I Want Your Sex" with Olivia Wilde and Charli XCX, and touring her brand new stand-up show "CHOLIGARCHY" &mdash; where she's fighting fascism one joke at a time.
Madison opens by honoring Margaret as a personal inspiration &mdash; and reveals the two already have history: a moment backstage at GLAAD where Margaret didn't need an introduction because she'd been following Madison for years.
This episode gets into everything past, present, and future: Margaret unpacks happened when network executives greenlit a show based on her life and then decided she was too fat to play herself &mdash; and how Hollywood's playbook still hasn't changed.&nbsp;
Fast forward to today, she talks death threats, Homeland Security, and what it's like to be a loud, queer, Asian American woman with a decades-long target on her back, having built a career on not only making people laugh but also fearlessly speaking truth to power.
Also: a state of the union regarding the trans community in America, Dave Chappelle, surviving abuse, comedy as a weapon, the Diddy trial, and Margaret's "wet and woke" vision for the future.
In Atlanta? Catch Margaret Cho's new live show "CHOLIGARCHY" coming to you THIS WEEK on March 14th at The Buckhead Theatre. Get your tickets now!
SUBSCRIBE ON YOUTUBE: Watch our episodes at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/outlawswithtsmadison">www.youtube.com/outlawswithtsmadison</a>.Check out past episodes with Billy Porter, Mo'Nique, Jasmine Crockett, and more!&nbsp;
NOW ON PATREON:&nbsp;Wish this episode was longer? Head over to our brand-new PATREON at&nbsp;<a href="https://www.patreon.com/outlawswithtsmadison">www.patreon.com/outlawswithtsmadison</a>. Become a member today and access our new weekly bonus series, "STILL RECORDING." This is the "Outlaws" after-party, where you'll get 15 more glorious minutes of Maddie and Margaret cuttin' up. Launched last week, you'll also get 20 more minutes with our last guest Billy Porter &ndash; and you'll continue to get more time with Maddie and your faves whenever new episodes drop.&nbsp;
"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by<a href="https://turtlerunent.com/"> Turtle Run Entertainment</a>.

Margaret Cho: Wet and Woke

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The AUNTIE is HERE!!! Willkommen, bienvenue, welcome to the one and only, multihyphenate, international sensation, MC extraordinaire, Billy Porter!

Billy Porter is no stranger to shattering glass ceilings, and it took work to get there. A fateful screening of “The Wiz” plus a love for music lead him to find his calling in musical theatre, and a now critically acclaimed career from “Kinky Boots” and “Pose” to making history on London’s West End. It wasn’t always easy– Billy opens up about traumatic childhood experiences, and how those experiences shaped the man he is today. 

And he’s still fighting strong! Billy talks making art and living out his dreams despite whatever roadblocks life throws his way– including a near death experience from sepsis last fall.

Also: Billy and Maddie get into keeping it real vs. taking the PR route; when kikiing gets taken out of context; why artists need better labor protections; and surviving the political reality of the past 10 years. 

Plus…we see you in the comments asking for longer episodes. We’re excited to announce our brand new Patreon exclusive, “Still Recording”! Get more Maddie from your favorite interviews. Available now at https://www.patreon.com/profile/creators?u=203684958 

"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

The AUNTIE is HERE!!! Willkommen, bienvenue, welcome to the one and only, multihyphenate, international sensation, MC extraordinaire, Billy Porter!
Billy Porter is no stranger to shattering glass ceilings, and it took work to get there. A fateful screening of &ldquo;The Wiz&rdquo; plus a love for music lead him to find his calling in musical theatre, and a now critically acclaimed career from &ldquo;Kinky Boots&rdquo; and &ldquo;Pose&rdquo; to making history on London&rsquo;s West End. It wasn&rsquo;t always easy&ndash; Billy opens up about traumatic childhood experiences, and how those experiences shaped the man he is today.&nbsp;
And he&rsquo;s still fighting strong! Billy talks making art and living out his dreams despite whatever roadblocks life throws his way&ndash; including a near death experience from sepsis last fall.
Also: Billy and Maddie get into keeping it real vs. taking the PR route; when kikiing gets taken out of context; why artists need better labor protections; and surviving the political reality of the past 10 years.&nbsp;
Plus&hellip;we see you in the comments asking for longer episodes. We&rsquo;re excited to announce our brand new Patreon exclusive, &ldquo;Still Recording&rdquo;! Get more Maddie from your favorite interviews. Available now at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/profile/creators?u=203684958">https://www.patreon.com/profile/creators?u=203684958</a>&nbsp;
"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by<a href="https://turtlerunent.com/"> Turtle Run Entertainment</a>.

Billy Porter: The Answer is No

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Grammy-winning songwriter, Broadway star, producer, and the longest-running Real Housewife in franchise history — Kandi Burruss sits down with TS Madison for a deeply personal conversation about building an empire, surviving the villain edit, and coming out of the matrix. 

Madison kicks things off by honoring Kandi as the first person to introduce her to mainstream media, and from there, it's all love, all real, and all business. Kandi TALKS HER SHIT like we've NEVER heard before — running down a résumé that stretches from signing with Xscape at 16, to writing "No Scrubs" for TLC, to becoming the first Black woman to win ASCAP's Songwriter of the Year award. Add in 14 straight seasons of "The Real Housewives of Atlanta," a Grammy, a Tony nomination, an Emmy nomination, winning "The Masked Singer," an adult entertainment empire (yes, she has the awards to prove it), and five Broadway productions — including the record-breaking "Othello" with Denzel Washington, currently "& Juliet," and the upcoming "Joe Turner's Come and Gone" starring Taraji P. Henson and directed by Debbie Allen.

Then, the conversation goes there. Kandi opens up about her divorce from Todd Tucker, addressing the rumors, the prenup speculation, and the internet lawyers who don't even practice in Georgia. She sets the record straight — and she's not here to confirm or deny anything else. She also gets candid about what it's been like to always be cast as the villain — from middle school, to Xscape, to the Housewives reunion couch — and what it takes to keep pushing when people project their issues onto your success.

Also in this episode: Would Kandi ever return to RHOA? (Not right now, honey.) Which Housewives friendships were real? (Kenya and Cynthia made the cut.) What would she ask NeNe Leakes if they sat down together? (Spoiler: "What did I do to you?") And could we see an all-Black reimagining of "Little Shop of Horrors" starring TS Madison as Audrey II? Kandi says she's interested — and we are manifesting this into existence.

It's not too late to catch Kandi on Broadway, starring in "& Juliet!" at the Stephen Sondheim Theatre until March 8, 2026. Get your tickets now!

Subscribe to "OUTLAWS" with TS Madison for conversations that honor the legends who made space for all of us. Check out past episodes with Cynthia Bailey, Mo'Nique, Kelli Ferrell, Tamar Braxton, and more!

"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts and iHeartRadio, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

Grammy-winning songwriter, Broadway star, producer, and the longest-running Real Housewife in franchise history &mdash; Kandi Burruss sits down with TS Madison for a deeply personal conversation about building an empire, surviving the villain edit, and coming out of the matrix.&nbsp;
Madison kicks things off by honoring Kandi as the first person to introduce her to mainstream media, and from there, it's all love, all real, and all business. Kandi TALKS HER SHIT like we've NEVER heard before &mdash; running down a r&eacute;sum&eacute; that stretches from signing with Xscape at 16, to writing "No Scrubs" for TLC, to becoming the first Black woman to win ASCAP's Songwriter of the Year award. Add in 14 straight seasons of "The Real Housewives of Atlanta," a Grammy, a Tony nomination, an Emmy nomination, winning "The Masked Singer," an adult entertainment empire (yes, she has the awards to prove it), and five Broadway productions &mdash; including the record-breaking "Othello" with Denzel Washington, currently "&amp; Juliet," and the upcoming "Joe Turner's Come and Gone" starring Taraji P. Henson and directed by Debbie Allen.
Then, the conversation goes there. Kandi opens up about her divorce from Todd Tucker, addressing the rumors, the prenup speculation, and the internet lawyers who don't even practice in Georgia. She sets the record straight &mdash; and she's not here to confirm or deny anything else. She also gets candid about what it's been like to always be cast as the villain &mdash; from middle school, to Xscape, to the Housewives reunion couch &mdash; and what it takes to keep pushing when people project their issues onto your success.
Also in this episode: Would Kandi ever return to RHOA? (Not right now, honey.) Which Housewives friendships were real? (Kenya and Cynthia made the cut.) What would she ask NeNe Leakes if they sat down together? (Spoiler: "What did I do to you?") And could we see an all-Black reimagining of "Little Shop of Horrors" starring TS Madison as Audrey II? Kandi says she's interested &mdash; and we are manifesting this into existence.
It's not too late to catch Kandi on Broadway, starring in "&amp; Juliet!" at the Stephen Sondheim Theatre&nbsp;until March 8, 2026. <a href="https://andjulietbroadway.com/tickets/?gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=21488939752&amp;gbraid=0AAAAAoxGcYAZACiq3vNh5NVMRuRdCmQ6g&amp;gclid=CjwKCAiAkvDMBhBMEiwAnUA9BZOWcrSlDxepQuvgrI3GNyjSnkntxHjsKIOWR8ECnH7JXQUryUk1eRoC8rcQAvD_BwE#broadway">Get your tickets now!</a>
Subscribe to "OUTLAWS" with TS Madison for conversations that honor the legends who made space for all of us. Check out past episodes with Cynthia Bailey, Mo'Nique, Kelli Ferrell, Tamar Braxton, and more!
"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts and iHeartRadio, co-produced by <a href="https://turtlerunent.com/">Turtle Run Entertainment</a>.

Kandi Burruss: Facts, Receipts, and Business

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