Paul and Skip have a hilarious talk with the longtime Saturday Night Live veteran, who opens up about his hit YouTube series 'Hiking with Kevin,' rumors of a 'Weeds' reunion, and his early years as a little German boy. He also recalls how he won over SNL producer Lorne Michaels for a spot on the iconic comedy mainstay, his enduring friendship with fellow comedy titan Dana Carvey, and what happened when he crossed paths with Arnold Schwarzenegger after years of mocking him in Hans & Frans sketches.
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I don't know where you are.
You're always traveling somewhere, so I'm not sure where you are.
All right, okay? Cool?
Well, you know today we have Kevin Neil and who I know through my wife Feet because she was at Saturday Night Live all those years and I got to know Kevin. And he's a blast. He's very dry, he's funny. I love when he sort of gets you, you know, you don't even know. He'll say something and you say, yeah, that's right, and then all of a sudden, you say, wait a second, he's fucking with me and.
He's a lot of fun.
But we have to get him talk about you know, he was the host of Weekend up Date on Saturday Night Live for so long.
Yeah I remember that. Yeah, yeah, what about the hiking thing? I enjoy watching that. That's pretty cool.
Oh yeah, he's got that YouTube series Hiking with Kevin. I think he's done. Believe it or not, I think he's done one hundred episodes. I just troned in a few weeks ago. I was watching. He had Brian Cranston on me, and he gets some pretty significant guests to go hiking with. You should all kidding aside, you should do that with him. I think it'd be fun for you.
They'd come and hike my property with me.
You know, you know the back ways. You can help him out.
Yeah, I know, the good trails. No, but that's gonna be funny. Seems like a good guy in terms of articulating comedy and what he's doing and all that stuff.
Yeah, people love him. He's you know, he's had so many television shows. Weeds, you know, with Mary Louise Parker was enormously successful. I mean he's had just a great another one of these people that came out of SNL and you know, wound up with a great career beyond it. If I've known him going back to like the late nineties, when I when I was hanging around Saturday Night Live while Edie was working, and I was just you know, taking it all in.
And then I started to play golf with him.
He was a golfer, so that became the common denominator, and so we started to spend time there. We also talked to him about he was like, may not get this right, but he was like the honorary mayor or something of Pacific Palisades, a suburb of LA where he lives.
We should sort of hit.
On that too, well, read up on him. Jordan's gonna send me some stuff and I'll read up on him and we'll have fun as usual.
Yeah. I think I think you'll enjoy it.
Man, Thanks for re call, and I'll talk to you another hour after dinner.
That'd be great. I'll think of something clever in between. Please talk to you later.
I love you too.
Hey, how's it going.
Here's the man? Hey, k man?
Hey, what's up? What's up?
Heah?
I wish every they were working up, but they ain't nowadays. But anyway, you above ground, you're above ground.
Your friends with Linda Thompson, right.
Yeah, there's a blaster of the past.
She's a buddy.
I knew her in her unhappy days with Foster.
She's many unhappy days.
Yeahs unhappy days with Elvis. Elvis, we understood. She's a great gual.
After every podcast that Paul and I do, I get a note from her. She's so sweet. Yeah, she's wonderful, wonderful and talented.
Oh yeah, she really is. She really is such a nice person.
First of all, I have to start with your friend the Edie Baskin said, you must tell Kevin that I just adore him. So check that box.
Done well, I adored too. So talk about talent. She is so talented. What a photographer.
She's great.
Yeah, yeah, and a nice person and a tall person. Is she taller than Ski?
Of course we can evade that subject. You tall people.
You know a lot of people see me, Paul, and they don't realize I'm this tall, and it really boggles their mind because it's it's funny when you have the idea of somebody's height in your head and you see them in person and it's not accurate. It really takes them aback a little bit. And people mention that a lot Kevin about me.
When I meet people Kevin, they don't think I'm missed tall either. No, that's five three or four.
You know.
I went to the doctor.
I was talking to Steve about this, a mutual friend, Steve Wynn, and we're both like, say what we both lost three inches?
Oh yeah, I heard that happens.
As you get older. You guys don't have to worry about it yet. I'm three inches less.
But speaking of older, you know, I forgot Kevin is the younger looking seventy year old. I know, no joke, no joke. Yeah, I get that. He get deally young for his age.
Skip, I look young on the outside but the inside. I just had my fourth joint replaced, which one from arthritis.
Oh my name, I left knee. But it's it's a genetic.
Uh.
You know.
I tell people from playing football stuff, but it's really it's from my mother. She had a lot of but she did play football, so she's got an excuse.
I had a cage fighter. She's a cage fighter too.
Paul Love that woman. I want to meet her. Yeah, I think I can handle her now, it probably could.
You know.
It's funny, you know, whenever I'm talking to somebody around my age, it always becomes about medical issues.
That's right.
I'll be talking to somebody and then I say, can we please just go without talking about your blood pressure or you know your cholesterol, or that you know your neuropathy and the feet for just one minute.
That is so true. And it's also the drug, the latest pill, right, Oh have you tried such and such?
Oh?
Yeah, Oh no, I've got a better one. What's yours? Everybody's got one?
Well, the truth is I don't have room in my pill box for one more pill. If I'm prescribed another pill, I tell the doctor I said, okay, but I have to take another pill out of the box to replace it, because it's like a suitcase now, you know, when you have to sit on a suitcase to close it.
Don Olmyer used to say when people would say that Don Omyer they wanted him to meet someone, Don would say, I used the lifeboat theory. What's that if someone gets into the boat, someone's got to get out of the boat first.
Same deal, Same deal.
I love Quincy. Quincy.
I think he told me a couple of years ago. He's hanging in. He's unknown. I'm getting old. I'm getting diseases. I can't pronounce.
It's true. That's part life though.
Speaking of getting old, I have to tell you I was looking at your tour schedule and I saw that you're doing multiple show was in Saint Louis, and then I remembered that you were born in Saint Louis, but you grew up like me. You grew up in Connecticut, and ultimately I know you went the Sacred Heart, which is in Fairfield, and that's where your friend and my wife, Hedie Baskin lived when we were Wirfield, right when we were first together. We're at Greenfield Hill in Fairfield.
Yeah, it's a beautiful area there.
I was born in Saint Louis and people see that on my Wikipedia or whatever.
But I only lived.
There for three weeks because my father graduated from Slough Saint Louis University and then he got a job in Connecticut. But I tell people I just didn't like the place. I got in the car.
I split.
You know, did I see that you lived in Germany?
Kevin yeah, I lived in Germany for like years, four years when I was six until I was ten, so that would be around nineteen fifty nine to sixty four around there, and that was great. Where was it Heidelberg? Did you It sounds like you lived in Germany.
For a while.
I did ice fresh noodle, cell kraut, ondre leider, jovo gibs and just had a teacher. Her name was secret Folkeman, and she insisted we started eight in the morning because I had to do a whole album in German. I didn't do eight in the morning when I was poor, so she was all over me. I'd say they were miserable, but she taught.
Me to do the words rhyme in GERMANO and another language.
Not like they do in our language.
It's like would be like vice versa noodle gizl from bayant Land this vere so you get it maybe on the last second, third day then and then jo vo gibst and e liber it's five mach and that was German gizl Monika. Yeah, they they'd rhyme them up at the end, but it's all up in the tongue in the front of the mouth, you know. It's a tough language. It wasn't like French or Italian. Those were easy for me.
Yeah, yeah, because I know the Beatles did that too for a little bit, a little bit on their album.
You know, I saw them Kevin in Paris when they were just doing covers. I went to see a friend of mine who was a big, big star over there at the Olympia Theater. You probably know, it's the great classic house, and and I went in to see, uh, this friend of mine and the announcer because they always had opening acts ladies and gentlemen, stous and these four guys walk out with the hair and the look, and I'm going, what the hell is this? And I'm a kid, you know, I was blessed that I was over there singing that you know, left the country at seventeen, eighteen ninety, and that's where I first met those guys. And you know when I started rapping with them, after they said, yeah, we got to start writing our own songs. We're doing Chuck Berry and blah blah blah blah blah. You know, for years, I'd come back from Europe and I'd go to my agent, Norman Weiss, and Uh, I'd say these guys over in England, you're not being a media driven society. You know, nobody know what the hell was going on outside of each city over here and along in the short one. I pounded him for a couple of years until he finally flew over and Matt Epstein and brought him over on The Sullivan Show. But that's the first time I met the Beatles. And then, as you said, they started in Germany, you know, as a as a cover band. That's where they started. Yeah, that was the first countries that they were. Yeah, that's where they were playing.
Yeah, I mean, what a treat to be able to see them that long ago.
I like to ask people who their first concert was, and you know, they'll say whatever, whoever it was.
And then I had this British driver.
He was probably about seventy two at the time, and I said, who was your first concert? And he thought about it for like twenty seconds. He goes, because the Beatles, the Beatles. It wouldn't take me twenty seconds to tell somebody, Yeah, to think of who his first concert was, I mean, would I would have like round the Beatles. I saw the Beatles at the cavern, you know, that's where he saw them.
It's so wild because when I watched them, or any of the the acts have been around. Until they put that mileage in, they're not worth going to the concert. They got to do at least two three thousand metaphorically to really get something for you to watch, because they're usually very bad when they're in that growing stage.
Yeah, yeah, very bad. Yeah, I know.
And they're playing all night too, and they're repeating a lot of the same songs.
Yeah, I saw it like all the time. On those rock and roll shows. We were just, you know, kids doing one and two songs two hundred bucks a week, and we were terrible. But the kids were screaming and yelling. They didn't know the difference.
I was in the garage band growing up, and we were horrible. But I'll be listening to the radio now and I'll or whatever, and I'll hear a song that we used to do in our band, you know, like Midnight Confession or Windy, you know, one of those songs. And I started compiling a list of all the songs that we did because we only had like twelve thirteen songs that we did cover songs. So it's fun to do that, and I kind of I think I've got them all now, you.
Know, indigenous to what you were saying that I've always noticed, you know, you talked about just starting up how far you can go. I've been around comics, you know, all my life. They opened for me from the coponn when as a kid. I'm always curious about the ones that just don't even to this day, don't quite make it because all of the it isn't there. You know, they're not subscribing to commercialism. I mean, you know those that are making it, and there's a lot of dynamics they make it. What about guys like is it Kat Williams or EPP's the guy that's on television. Yeahs, some of their routines are classic. Well what's your feeling about guys like that?
Well, like you said, some people have that it and others don't, and then others don't have that it and some of them make it huge. Now, there's a lot of comics now that I would say a lot, but a good handful of comics that are selling out arenas now and huge venues, and a lot of times it comes from them doing their podcast or just hitting the same market over and over and over. Again over the years, and I think comedy has become much more accessible than it used to be social media, so people are more familiar with different comics. Kat Williams, you know, he's he has a specific style of comedy. It's more of an urban kind of an act. And Michael Epps, I'm not as familiar with his comedy.
But yeah, it's a good question. I don't know what.
They're funny. They're funny, They're very funny, yeah, but they never get the forum to be seen that way. You know, you get down to some of the guys around today, there's you know, there's ethnic reasons, there's so many reasons why it's all encompassing and that they're doing it. But I was I was always even like years ago, you know the comics I choose from because you know Johnny Carson, you know, I hired him to do a show with me. Nobody was even looking and I hired and brought him to England because I needed comic value. But you know, nobody was aware of him in the beginning until he.
Hit the television.
Yeah, yeah, wow, that was amazing to have him open up for you.
But by the way, so you know, Paul wrote the Tonight Show theme song. That's the theme song that we use for that's right.
I forgot about that.
We didn't like skips. We didn't like skips. He submitted one.
Ding.
Uh, it didn't It didn't fly.
But you can hardly wait. I'll tell you some real estate. I'll meet you at the gate.
Was that a song you specifically wrote for the Tonight Show or was that a song you were panhandling for a while and then the Fight Show said yeah, I'll take that.
Kind of a little of both, you know, you know, the way you take your material and your file it. Johnny, when we got home after he was on the Grown Out of TV special, I ran into him and I say, hey, what's up. He said, I know, you know, still floundering around, but I might do this Tonight Show team for a year.
Ha ha. What there nine years.
Later and I'm changing this and changing that. And you know, I was a song man. I was, you know, didn't think I was going to last. So you know, I wrote Buddy Hawley's last song and a bunch of people, and I was just trying to stay with a foundation as a writer. So he said, and I might need a new song. You know, wrong guy to talk to with that. So I went in the studio a couple hundred bucks like I did with Longest Day, and I put the vision down.
I sent it to him and he.
Said, uh, love it, and then he covered the next day said sketch Henderson, who's with the show and has been doesn't want some kid horning in and we can't use it. And I said, Johnny, you know, I'll tell you what. I'll give you half the song. I'll give you half.
I'll give you half of everything.
Then he called me the next day he said, you got it. So that's how it got on.
Jennerson. I gave him everything. We put his kids through school on mine. No, we made we made a lot of money.
Sure, still still probably that's amazing.
Well not as much we would know, hey, but you know what, we had a good ride with it.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's no there's no forum for it today, certain licenses. But I was off the off the show totally until I gave away half and I had nothing anyway, so it didn't matter.
You know. Things happened a lot of.
Efficiency, Yeah, that's for sure.
When you were talking about comedians and venues, we had Bill Burron as a guest, and he performed at Fenway Park. So the thought that a comedian could perform in a in a stadium like Fenway Park is just extraordinary. So that's that's so different from the way things used to be. If you will, you know, comedy, it's a whole different thing, and that now of course with Netflix and all the things that you've done. But how did you know? As long as I've known you, I've never asked, but how did you first get started? I know where that went obviously, but how did you start?
I was wondering when you're going to ask me that question? Finally, finally, yeah.
Kevin did When did you start?
Kevin?
I read something I really want to know. When did you start? How did you start?
You know, I was just a kid out of the Bronx.
Yeah, I know.
It just kind of fell into it, that's all, you know, That's all. Uh No.
I I love stand up comedy and I would used to highlight the name of the comics and the TV guide, whether it was George Miller or Jay Leno or Alan King whoever, and I would make sure that I was home to see them perform. And I love like memorizing the jokes in the back of the Parade magazine, my favorite jokes by whoever the comic was. And then I go to a party and I kind of personalized those jokes like it was my life that it happened to. Like I would tell a friend, Hey, man, did you hear about this guy yesterday? He stole a fire truck downtown And they're all like, are you serious? I go yeah, they said, did they get the guy? I go, yeah, they got them, and some guy that stole a cop car pulled them over and got them. So I memorized those jokes, and then you know, one front of mine said hey, you should go into the comedy clubs and you know, do an act, and so I went to New York. I checked out some of those clubs like the Catch, Rising Star and the Comic Strip Live, and it just terrified me.
There's New York comics.
You know, they're smoking the clubs back then, and the comics were really brash and edgy.
So I thought, California is that's going to be my place, more laid back. So I just came out here and started putting together an act long story short.
And then you wound up going back to New York because Saturday Night Live from nineteen eighty six to nineteen ninety five. My wife Edie, of course, was there starting with show number one as the photographer, and you got there in eighty six. I actually met her in ninety one.
Oh really yeah.
But a lot of the people sort of referred at the time that you were there as the golden era of Saturday Night Live, the cast that was there when you were there. By the way, Chris Rock called me today. He's in la and he said to say, Hi, do you needless to say?
Oh? So nice? And would you tell him? I said, Hi, next time you see him, we will call each other.
But you you auditioned, right, I mean the standard that was the standard way that everybody got the job. You weren't. They didn't come after you. Everybody went there to audition, right.
No one comes after me, nobody, you guys, air, this was.
Well what happened to a lot of people.
In fact, a lot of people ask me how I got on Saturday Night Live, although they phrased it more like this, how did you get on Saturday Night Live? You know, aside from being lucky because I didn't do characters or sketches or accents or anything. I was friends with Dana Carvey, and Dana Carvey get on the show, and rightfully so, because he does characters and accents and the sketches, and so I was really excited for him. And off he goes to New York and two weeks later, get a call from him, Kevin, I dont Laura Michael's house. I'm in the back bedroom, guess was in the kitchen, Bill Murray. I'm like, no way, he goes, Yeah, I said, he said, Laurenn's looking for a one more cast member. I told her about you, and I think he's going to want to see your audition tape. And I'm like, Bill Murray's in the kitchen, you know.
What I mean.
I wasn't even acknowledging that other stuff because I knew I wouldn't get it. I knew I wasn't gonna get rejected because I knew I didn't new characters. You know, I'm just a stand up, a really really good stand up. So I sent my audition tape in two weeks later, get the call from Dana VI. I'm back, got to Laura Mike Gus he was in the kitchen. Steve marn no yeah, anyway, Lauren, like you tape, they're gonna fly in the front audition, I said, Steve Burns in the kitchen. I just wasn't buying into it anyway. I fly in pre airline ticket. Brian Kraston took my seat, so that wasn't so good.
But I do my little.
Audition and I fly back, and two weeks later I found myself sitting in a high rise in Beverly Hills, across from LORNI. He's offering me a job in SNL and I told him, let me think about it over the weekend. That's how I rolled it. That's how I massaged the deal. Do you know what I mean? And he said, you think about it over the weekend. We'll see in New York on Monday. And the rest is what happened.
But think about the cast that was there with you. So Chris Rock who we spoke about, Adam Dana Carvey, Chris Farley, Rob Schneider, you know.
What, Phil Hartman, Yeah, Phil Harmon Skip.
When I first came on, this must have been the smallest cast ever is eight. I think there was eight of us, and then as time.
Went on, more and more people came on.
Farley came on, Sandler Mike Myers, so it became maybe thirteen people. But now if you watch it, the intros take maybe about five minutes because they're introducing everybody and featuring guest starring.
And the man off the Street we don't even know who he is.
It's so true.
Anybody who are all struck with Kevin between your Hiking Show and SNL, anybody.
That you are really yeah, yeah, you know.
First of all, Paul I felt like I was just an outsider on the show. I felt like I had imposters syndrome. I felt like I'm not really qualified to the Ennis Show because I don't do characters or accents. But Lauren got me because of the chemistry between I had with Dana and Dennis Miller and Jan Hoaks with my girlfriend at the time, so he was doing it based off of that. But I've seen you know, it was mostly musicians that I was all struck by. Steve Martin was I was always a fan of his, so when he came out, I was excited in Bill Burray. But as far as the musicians, I mean, I saw Roy Orbison was on, you know, I was always a fan of James Taylor's and so I got to meet him and we became friends from that, Mick Jagger, Path, Richards, Paul Simon. I get to see all these dinosaurs, all these musicians I grew up. You know, they're my soundtrack, my life, and and and just to be able to hang out with them have lunch. I mean, what a great experience that was for someone who didn't even belong there.
En off point Andy Kaufman during your time Improv.
Andy Kaufman was and it was one of my influences. It was Andy Kaufman, Steve Martin, and Albert Brooks. Those three guys right there were my inspiration and I met all three of them. And Andy Kaufman, I love. He really influenced me a lot because the way he kind of misdirected everything and kind of fooled the audience.
So I met him.
I would see him at the Improv in Hollywood because I was a partender there for two years, and I would meet all these comics that I used to see that I highlighted their names as the TV guide here. They were all of a sudden, you know, ordering a white wine from me, and Andy Kaufman would come in and you know, I watched him do his act in the back room, and then, I mean and I was too shy to go up to him.
I was too intimidated.
And then one day he was standing out one night, he is in front of the air problem and against the wall, and I knew he was into TM transidental meditation. So I went up there and I asked him about it, and he talked to me for about a half hour and didn't look at me that much. Was just kind of looking at the traffic going by, and I wasn't listening too much to them. I was just looking at his face and looking at the moles on his face.
But it was a great experience. I was so happy about that.
And how about Jim Carrey, Man, did he do a job?
Jim Carrey's great. I mean, so did he do a job?
He was amazing in that phone. Yeah, he really nailed it.
Yeah, Yeah, he's great. Man.
It's just there's so many great comics out there, and I've seen so many great ones.
Gary Shanling was a good friend of mine. He was one of my mentors.
Knew Gary up.
Harry was great. You know, Bob Stage It's is.
Richard Lewis always it's sad when you start seeing all these people fall along the wayside. I'm sure you've seen that throughout your life with singers and.
More more recently, Buddy, more recently too many in the Bowling Alley.
Now. Yeah, So when you were on the show, you were the host of Weekend Update, which you know, was always one of the favorite parts of the show for me. That and the fact that going back to the music, as you know, keV Thursday's the music guest rehearses on the set and for those of us who are lucky enough to be in there, you got to see something that was very special, up close and personal. But my favorite Kevin has to be when you were in the Hans and Franz skip based upon you know, Schwartz and er. Have you ever crossed the paths with him?
Oh?
Yeah, sure, yeah.
So we were obviously basing our characters on on Arnold Schwarzenegger. So so when we heard he wanted to come on the show and being a sketch with Hans and Franz, Dana and I looked at each other and we thought, geez, doesn't he know we're making fun of him?
Doesn't he know that?
And then we realized.
We figured, maybe he's coming on the show to rough us up a little bit, right. So that day came and they got us. They said, Arnold's in his dressing room. He wants to talk to you guys. So we were like two kids going to the principal's office. We were blaming each other. You came up and I know I did, you did. I said not to do it, and now it's too late. We get to his dressing room. His name was on the door. His name was so long it went onto the wall a little bit.
We knocked on.
That's right, We knock on his door and we open it up. And I'll never forget this scenario. It was full of cigar smoke. We could barely see him sitting across the room, and he had a big cigar in one hand, and on the other hand he had the script that we wrote for him.
And he looked up to us through the cigar smoke and he goes, I know, fellows, now, how am I supposed to do the accent?
Right there?
We knew he had a sense of humor.
That he's been using a lot of those Arnold you know slogans, like even when he ran for governor.
He was quoting all those lines.
He's so terrific. I have to say he. We have a place up in Sun Valley, Idaho, and I know him a little bit through there, and I would go to the gym early in the day because I don't ski, and all the skiers were up on the mountain, so I had the whole gym to myself. And one day two guys came in wearing sports jackets with earpieces, and sure enough, next thing you know, the door opens the governor of California comes walking in. So as I see him, I take the pin on the machine where I'm lifting weights and I put it all the way down at the bottom. And I don't want to I don't want I don't want to look wimpy. And I watched him start to work out, and he's lifting one plate on every machine, pull down one plate, press one plate, and I'm thinking, what's this about. So as he was walking out, I said, I have to ask you a question. Why do you only lift one plate? And he said, oh, I'm own. I said, oh, toning interesting. So that night we're at a party together and I walked up to him and I said, Governor, I have to ask you a question. Do you think maybe as you try that toning thing? He grabs onto my bicep and he goes, first, you need something to which it's just it's just so him. He's so great.
Yeah, yeah he was. I was at one of these openings for playing Hollywood. I guess he was co owner of or something. And because.
He's the kind of guy who you know, he's heard a joke and he tries to repeat it and he doesn't really have the delivery. But this one I remember, he goes, you know, my wife, she just had some plastic surgery.
Yeah, I cut up her credit cards. Yeah, you know, black belted shopping. She has black belted shopping.
I got to tell you, my friend Brad Garrett open up for Frank Sinatra once or twice.
And I know Tom Dreesen does.
It a lot or did it a lot, but Brad said he was doing it. And at the end, uh, he said that they would tug on the cable to let you know when Frank is ready to come on, you know, the Mike cable. And so he said that. As he was wrapping up his act, he said, folks, stick around, there's more. Come, there's more. Act to come, you know, and he gets off stage as a joke and the guy that you know, Frank's guy goes, what do you mean this more show to come?
They came here to see Frank, not you. You know, he didn't realize it was a joke, right right, and then he would go off stage.
And and uh and Frank's got you know, he didn't get it.
That was probably Jilly Jilli was the right hand guy with the that's right.
Yeah, he was the tougher. He was a cool guy though.
But doesn't doesn't Brad have a place up in Vegas in one of the hotels Jim Jim.
Yeah, he's got a little comedy club up there. It's really good. Have been there, I've worked at. It's really probably the nicest comedy club I've ever seen.
Oh cool because we've set up.
Yeah, I'm looking to go in there. A friend of mine knows him well. I've been planning to go in and see him. I think MGM Hotel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's really nice. Tom Jason though. Tom Reson is a friend of mine.
I've known him forever and I did I did a show with him once and we.
Talked all about his opening for Frank and all the stories about Frank Sinatcha. I'm sure you've got tons of them too, But it was really interesting and so many people.
Viewed that show.
They were so interested in it, and he thanks me to this day, you know, for putting that out there.
Do you have a dream guest? Do you still have Nike with? Oh, other than Skip and Eye, that sounds like a comedy team.
And who you still like to get on there with you?
Well, I'd like to get Steve Martin, but I wanted to get Carl Reiner as was friends with him, and mel Brooks would have been great.
But these guys are I think a little past the the heike.
Yeah, yeah, but there's you know, there's a lot of I throw on a wide net there, Paul, you know, because I'm not afraid to ask people, from Taylor Swift to Oprah, you know, I just throw it out there. I guess Taylor Swift would be good since she's so popular. Now, really you think, I mean, I don't know if I could connect with her on anything.
I think you fly something. I'm your latest hike with Nick Aferman. I thought it was great, but one of one of the things that stood out for me. Really made me laugh is when you asked where he was from, when he said Minooka, Illinois, and you said, even the people who live there haven't heard of it.
About Jack Black. We had Jack Black on. Yeah you've gotten interrupted by all those people.
Yeah, I mean we couldn't even Here's what I learned is don't do these hikes with the big celebrities on a weekend because that's when.
All the people are out there hiking.
So I typically go on a weekday, like around nine o'clock, and it's before many people are out there, you know. And I used to I used to live in the Palisades, Skip and I lived near Temescal Canyon and it's one of my favorite canyons out there.
And I was on that show Weeds at the time, and I.
Would bring my script with me early in the morning to learn my lines while I was kind of hiking up the canyon there and the sun was just coming out right, and so it would be interesting because one time I went up there, I hiked, I got thirty minutes up and I heard this deep growl and I knew it wasn't a dog or anything, and I knew it was a mountain lion. I could feel it in my chest and I scurried up the hill.
I came back like.
Two hours later, and you know, everybody's hiking around and I felt safe. But the next day, I swear to you, they caught a two hundred pound mountain lion right there in sunset and tamescal and I know that was the one.
It had to be the one.
Oh man, are you guys going to reboot that weeds?
Weeds? Weeds?
I hear tell of that, but I don't I'll believe what I see it. I don't know how they would do it since weed is legal now, you know, it'd have to kind of really take a big turn.
Ye.
That's right.
So how about your stuff as being a visual artist, because I know you were talking to eighty about, you know, what you do with the caricatures. Maybe you could explain that for a secondents, Do you have a book out now too?
Right?
Yeah, I wrote a book about a year ago.
It's a collection of my caricature paintings of celebrities and a lot of them are my friends. And then there's an anecdote on the opposite page about how I know them or an experience we had together, and if I don't know them, it's just musing.
About, you know whatever. And it was a lot of fun.
Writing it, and people really like it a lot funny, you know, Skip, I was going to I brought I usually bring a book with me to a club and just kind of show it and they'll put up on a screen or something. And I forgot my book last week. I was going somewhere, so I called Barnes and Noble in that city. I said, do you have a book called I Exaggerate by Kevin Neelan And she goes, hang on a second. I mean, I'm sorry, who is it by? I said, Kevin Kneeling. She said, let me go check I Exaggerated right.
He go yeah.
So she goes back two minutes later she goes, yeah, we do have the book, and shall I hold it here by the cash register? I said, yeah, please do that. She said, who should I hold it for? I said, Kevin Kneeling. But anyway, you know, Skip, I used this doodle all my life. I would just but there's always like quick little doodles or really kind of rough caricatures of people, and I never really fully committed to it. And then when Instagram came along, I saw some really good illustrators, real good character artists, and I thought, wow, that's really good.
They're really good.
And I used to have two pictures in my bedroom hanging up, two really great caricatures of my parents, and they're framed, and every night I would lie down and look at those and kind of subconsciously study how the artist went about doing it, what he exaggerated. And I think that was probably my greatest lesson, because I've never really taken any real lessons on how to draw, and it's kind of doing characters have really in my life because wherever I go now, I look at people and I see their outstanding character traits. It's like going through a funhouse with all the mirrors, so I could never see anybody normally anymore.
Do you see it as a bit of an escape for you, Kevin?
Definitely, definitely. When I'm drawing. I don't know if it's like when you're writing a song or something, but I just I forget to have lunch. I forget. And I was going through a period of claustrophobia for a while.
It's kind of an anxiety claustrophobia, and I couldn't be in a room where I knew I couldn't get out, or I felt like maybe I couldn't get out, and I would sometimes and I would think, oh my god, my career is over. You know, I can't get on an airplane. But for some reason, I could fly. I could be in an airplane, but if it got stuck on the tarmac, I would really start to get anxious and get that feeling of clustrophobia. But if I took out a sketch pad, which I always kept with me and a pencil, it would totally take me out of that and I would just escape into whatever it was I was drawing.
So yeah, good, definitely fascinating work. I used to hang out with.
You know, Stella and Warhol did a few on me, but I'd get to go down and hang with them when they were, you know, creating, and it's just a fascinating process to watch, especially the modern painters. You know, you'd sit there and they'd see all kinds of colors and they'd be throwing this and doing that. I saw it so much, I said, I think it was Stella. I said, how the hell do you know when you're finished? But it was fascinating watching those guys create, you know, and then buying the stuff back in the sixties when it was cheap as opposed to later on.
Do you have any paintings that you bought that you really are Oh?
Had I had a whole collection, you know Stella Dacooning and I had. I had a whole collection. I built a house around it when I lived in Carmel with my wife then May she Rest in peace, and we had forty foot ceilings and we bought and bought and bought.
Skip.
I think you got a taste of it near the end. I think it turned Steve on Steve Whinn when he started buying. But when I got divorced, I gave her everything and said goodbye to it all. And she deserved it, you know. She was, you know, very involved in it with me, but I gave it all to her. But we had major, major pieces that we started selling for the years.
Yeah, Kevin showed me this work. It was on his phone. I'm telling you this is not like a hobby thing, Paul. You should see these. These are spectacular. I mean I couldn't get over these caricatures because when I first heard that he was doing them, I thought, well, it's a little thing he's doing on the side wherever going around.
They're great.
I mean they're really great.
Do you offend anybody seen them?
Sure?
Yeah, go for it.
The truth, the truth.
You know a lot of times people ask me, have these people seen their caricatures?
At that point, they hadn't seen them.
And I never knew that they had seen him because I didn't have him in a book.
But then when I put him in a book, and you know, I had to go out and promote the book.
So I would take a few of the paintings with me, but out of courtesy, I would ask these people, do you mind if I use your if you're painting to to help sell my book? And you know, Jim Carrey was fine with it, Steve Martin was fine with it, and I uh, I sent Christopher Walkins to his agent and he hated.
Christopher Walkin hated it so badly.
He goes under those circumstances, could you use this to promote your book?
But it's in the book?
So is that the one that makes you laugh the most?
Yeah, that's my favorite, one of my favorite one. But you know you're speaking of painting.
Skip.
I went to Lakhma in New York a couple of years ago, and they had Starry Night by Vincent and.
Everybody was crowded around it, and I.
Took my cell phone out and I went up next to this the middle of the group, next to a couple of people.
I said, is this a famous painting here? And yeah? I go and what is it called? And the woman was so so offriended next to me.
She goes, it's starry It's Starry Night by this Ben go, that's like not knowing who you know? The Mona Lisa is And I said, okay, and how much is it? How much are they selling it for? She goes, it's not for sale. I said, well why is it? What do you think it would be worth? It would be millions. I said, is that because the frame? Because I don't think the painting is that good? Maybe the frame alone.
To be that much? Did a child paint it? Is it like a finger painting?
She was so incensed she just huffed off and she walked and I videotaped the whole thing.
Wonder why these sickos that want to go and throw a suit? Yeah, yeah, yeah, throw things at the Mona Lisa where it's like behind such an incredibly impenetrable piece of glass that you can never impact it anyway. But why they choose to do that, it's just bizarre.
Well why they choose to do it is because it draws attention to their cause, because you know, had they not done that, they wouldn't have gotten the attention. And uh, I just feel bad for the makers of the suit because that gives them a bad wrap.
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I read a book on leonardoo da Vinci, which my son kind of laughs at because it took me like a year and a half to read it, big book, And I took me so and to read it because I was fascinated by his life and it's all everything about him and his paintings in his process. And do you know that the Mona Lisa took him eight years to paint and he would just.
Carried around in his wagon.
When he moved to Milan, he would have it with him, and then he went to Rome and he just would just keep touching it up and just keep painting it. So I don't even know if it's finished to this day.
That's funny. So just to pivot for one second. You were talking about Tom Greeson, and Tom Dreeson's a very avid golfers, you know, played all he could and kept by Paul. Kevin and I played a lot of golf together over the years. But now that we're both banged up, maybe not so much. But need to get I need to get him back on the golf course. That's where you have a lot of fun together.
Golf.
I used to and then I uh, I was a caddie. Maybe it's because of that for many years in Canada, and then I golfed and pucked around, played a lot of tennis. But you know, when you're writing, well, you know, just so much time in the day. And then I had a young child, he's eighteen now, and my time was very special.
No, I don't you know.
I got as frustrated as you all do. But I had the benefit of you know, Steve Winn built his place in Las Vegas. Steve and no, the answer is a big no. I'm pickleballing and I'm playing tennis now.
Yeah, pickle balls become so popular.
My friends started playing that about fifteen years ago, and I shook my head thinking this guy's given up. He has given up. He's playing like, well, he's gonna play shuffle board later. But yeah, the thing with golf is I love it. I'm horrible at it. But you know, when I go golfing, I go because I want to golf. But then when I'm golfing after nine holes, I think I should be home doing something else, you know, I should be writing or whatever.
You know, it's never it's never like I'm a more of a nine hole guy.
But you know what the truth is, We're all driven in our own way. You know, thinking of Paul, Paul's in his eighth decade of performing and he's leaving to go out on tour again. It's just it's so inspirational and incredible to just keep going. You know, you look at people that you know sort of call it a day early and say, well, you know, I had a great career, see you later. And I love I love the fact that Paul is still filling up these venues and it's just phenomenal that he gets to do that.
So, hey, you stand still, they throw dirt on you. So as long as you can do it, you love a passion, you do it. You know you don't look at life that way.
Yeah, I mean, how lucky are we that we have this passion where we don't want to retire?
You know, we just love what we do.
I mean, if I retired, I still be doing what I really it's just not for money. So you have an eighteen year old son, Paul, I have a seventeen year old son, and I know what you mean.
You want to be home with them as much as possible before they go off to college or whatever.
I'm writing a bucket list now of all the things I haven't donn my son yet that I want to do because he's going to be leaving the nest pretty soon. I mean, it's everything I go into it, you know, a salmon, a salmon fishing trip in Alaska, going camp and white water rafting, going here and going there.
And I don't think I'm going to be able to get them all in, you.
Know, Southern kep.
Like I got five girls when they hit that eighteen mark. And when they did, boy do they go out and get it. They just leave you. You know, they love you, but they leave you. Look they look back at your times like you're an alien. So I'm putting in a lot of years with him. I'm committed to that, and I do everything at home in my studio. And somebody recently said kids are overrated. Maybe, but I'm having a great time with him, great time with him.
Yeah, but you need time.
You got to make the time sometimes.
Speaking of time, weren't you getting involved in spending some time with politics and Pacific Palisades? You were like running for the city council.
I never ran for anything.
They asked me if I would be the honorary Mayor of the Palace, and I said, what is that involved? They said, all you have to do is ride in the Fourth of July parade and then h Christmas. You just ride on the fire truck with Santa Claus. And so my son was younger at the time. I thought, yeah, that'd be kind of cool. He'd like to ride in a parade. So I said, that's all I have to do. That's fine. So immediately after I became honorary mayor, I'm getting all these calls, Hey, man, they're using cuesticide on the side of our Well, could you do something about that? You know there there's a round up. Can you do something about Hey? Can you throw the first ball and at the polo match. You know, can you judge your beauty cuts. I'm just here for the ride. I just want to be on the ride in the parade. But it was great, you know, do it for two years and then I handed it off to Bully Crystal and then he took it really there.
Speaking of mayor's I was living in Carmel, so that's Clint Eastwood country.
So we're buddy.
Things were starting to fray a little in Carmel and a run for Meyrit Paul I said, okay, I'll support you. So we take him down to the city hall. You know, he start doing his speeches. Nobody could hear him because he talks so softly. So I said, hey, Clint, I got an idea. I'll pay for it. You know, I'm a big sound nut, and I flew in a sound system. I think they trucked it down from San Francisco, so that when we got him on the steps of the city Hall and he had to give his speech, everybody could finally hear him because he had no idea what he was saying was running. But he was a cool He was a cool guy. He was a great mayor too. He put her all back together up there.
Yeah, he did.
He did. Was he like ninety and working in nineties and he's doing new films, you know, pursing directly.
Yeah.
And he doesn't want to hear about age either man. He says, keep the keeping the old man out. He got nothing to do with anything.
Yeah.
I think he because close to the family and has daughter. I think it went to Africa for this current film. I think that's where he was and he's backing.
Friend of mine is a huge Clint Eastwood fan, kind of looks like him a little bit. And he married his daughter and he loves Clint Eastwood, and he married his daughter I think to be close to Clint Eastwood. And the marriage Ollie lasted six months and Clint said to him, he said, he didn't have to marry my daughter to go golfer with me.
I would have golfed with you.
Yeah, she's married.
Well now she's really involved and they're they're putting up a shelter because she's into animals and save and all that. We've been helping and contributing. But she's put together a real nice complex for saving animals. She's a good girl and she's married well.
That's goods. I know, like Doris Day up and Carmel used to love animals.
Who's a neighbor up there?
That's beautiful up there.
I was just there a couple of weeks ago talking about when things wind up or wrap up? Do you think Saturday Night Live we were together at the fortieth anniversary. Now the next year is going to be the fiftieth anniversary. It's hard the fathom that show that originally got in order for maybe like four episodes, it's going on for fifty years. You think Lauren will call it a day or do you think he'll just keep going?
Well, you know, the last time he called it a day, the show almost ended because it was out out of his control, and so he came back and it took a year or two for to kind of get back in good graces again with the audience.
So I think it's going to be a difficult decision for him to make. I saw him about a year going. He look great, looks fine. So I don't.
Know that just because something is a round number, I don't think people should call it a day unless that round number is one hundred and it's his round number.
Well, this has been a blast. Man, Have you come on and just just just so multi talented, you know, making people laugh and no, you're right, you're right, right, Hey, Heyki, when you're right, you're right, you got it, nailed it, Paul, Yeah, what do you think we Kevin and I drag you out on the golf course. We make you play golf with us.
Yell, drive there you go. I want to see my caricature. That's what I want to see.
Hey, I have to whip one up, one up.
I stopped doing characters with my friends too risky.
Okay, I won't be your friend.
I want to see'd be my next seat.
I'm sure you got a couple of characters at some of those restaurants.
Oh boy, the wall.
Yeah, we've got Nunzie, Johnny Lips. There were some funny people. And with Sinatra, I'll tell you, I don't know how I got out of all that clean, but there were some characters, real characters.
Oh yeah, I'm sure man, donle oh, I.
Love don you know we used to. He used to when he came to town. We were all working Vegas back in the sixties. He'd be working the lounges, which were back then as important as the clubrooms themselves. But he'd take on Frank and he put down every him and Shaky Green would tear everybody apart. And you know, he was just kind of new to all of us, but we all knew he was a sweet guy. But he tore Frank apart one night to get back to got back to Frank one night and after the show one of the sands he was at the Sahara. He said, okay, we're going over to the Sahara to see Rickles. So I think it was about eight of us, and his right hand man was Jilly. So we sit down ringside in these lounges which only held about two hundred people, and Don was going on at midnight. We're sitting ringside and Frank said to Jilly, okay, Jilly, go get the papers. He went out to the news step he brought back eight la times. We're all sitting there and franksis put him under the table. So he put him under the table and then Don still had that torriodor or whatever that instrumentally had that brought him on, and he came on and Frank say, okay, now we all picked up the papers, opened him up, and we started reading them while he was doing his accenting ringside, Hey, jolly was the want of the Dodgers playing no more. I don't know if we never put the damn papers down. Well, Don sweated, as you know, but man, it was the funniest thing. We wouldn't put those fucking papers down.
He was going nuts.
But that's what it was back then, you know, it was. It was close. It was the all of them mafia guys you worked for. Everybody knew who you worked for, and everybody would get together and just the town was way different than it is today, much much different, until Hughes came in and then Steve Wynn came in and it became very very corporate.
Brickles was loved.
He was a sweetheart. He was really a very very warm guy off stage, he was a good guy.
Yeah.
I had a chance to meet him.
About a year or so before he died at a party in the backyard. We were sent at the same table and he was so curious about the younger comics now, and I think he was so confused that what was funny anymore, you know, And he wanted to know about the comics and who's this guy? What does he do you know it was interesting to see that that older generation trying to kind of understand the newer what makes people.
And not understand because it's a huge when I look at the landscape today and what it was back then. But you know, times change and everything is fitting to the time. But no one would ever think it would get to where it is today. I mean a lot of us musicians look at a lot of the music that's out there go what's going on here? But you know, he got to roll with it and understand it and not be too judgmental.
Yeah, that's true.
I don't think Rickles could have an act now that people would you know, approve.
Him definitely, not that they'd be on him within his first ten minutes.
Yeah.
I think Brad Garrett is probably the closest to that now and he kind of gets oh yeah, he's very Uh.
He reminds me of Don Rickles a lot.
Well, you know who a lot of that was lifted from was a guy named Jackie Leonard.
Do you remember that name?
Oh?
Yeah, well Don, it was down and Jackie Leonard and Jackie was doing the same kind of stuff that Don was doing. Don just took it do another.
When I first started out Paul I was opening up for Jackie Vernon.
Oh sure, big Jackie, Jackie, you're open for another comment that's wild.
Oh yeah, yeah, that's how it works.
And he would do that slide show thing, you know, there was a make believe slideshow and every day we were like in Houston. I remember, he would call me. He goes, come on, let's go. We'll go to a pharmacy. He loved going to pharmacies and he get a shopping cart at the pharmacy. And he would take anything by anything if it came with something free, you know, like if cologne comes with an.
Umbrella, I'll get that.
I'll get that.
Well, you know when I started, you know, back in the fifties and we started doing the circuit, you know, it was Copa, it was Vegas Fountain Blue. We had to have a comic on the show, I mean whatever, and whoever wanted it. So I went through everybody, I mean, Joan River's name and then Jackie Mason. They threw that out of me. I said sure, And I was opening at the Copa and I was there during prom time, which is like three shows a night, and they're lined up around fifth avenue these kids. So on opening night, Jackie and I are, you know, getting ready to our opening show, and we'd do it. It's a huge hit, a rave reviews everything else, and Jackie was what he turned out to be, you know, very aggressive and very right on it. And the next night he decides to walk through the front door of the Copa with the kids. Now, normally not many people remember the Copa. It was a side entrance that you'd go up into a hotel, dress in a hotel and come down into.
The club because there was no dressing rooms.
So Jackie decides to walk in the front door with at least a thousand kids, and he's walking past them, you know, he's all puffed up because he was a hit the night before, and mister Podell, Jules Podell, who was the guy for the mob, sat at the chair at the entrance in the lobby watching everything. So Jackie walks in, he's there with the kids, and he walks by Podell who's sitting there. He says, hey, mister Podell, good to see you. Potel looked at and said, get back in fucking line.
Kids.
He didn't know who the hell Jackie was from whatever, but I'll never forget that. Jackie and I always used to laughter that get back and fucking wank. But the Copa was the place, you know, it was like a basement.
It wasn't anything like we see today.
But all the comics started to see, all of them.
It seemed like it was a very accepted practice to work with the mafia.
Back choice.
You had your choice, we mean, except yeah, anywhere we worked, whether you had a record deal, anything in show business, right down to getting cement in New York, you worked for the guys. When I first met Sinatra, you know, it was always write me a song, Write me a song. But I was intimidated, you know me. I was on Puppy Love and all that crap. And we were at the Fountain Blue in the late sixties working for the boys, and it was a lot more glamorous at that club. But Frank was he was in town doing a movie, and I was singing in the Lauren Room, and he was in town doing a film Lady in Cement, which with the people we worked for, could have been a documentary, you know. So we constantly, we constantly were working between those three places, and the boys would show up, I mean after my show, I'd sit with Mari Lansky and his wife. I'd finished the show to go down to the barn. I'm sitting with Mari Lansky and loved it.
You know, it was a very.
Gracious to me. But it was always the boys. You worked for them, that was it, no choice.
How about Joey Gallow Do you ever mean.
That the Gallows? I met him in New York once.
Do you ever read You ever read Johnny Carson's lawyers.
Pushkin Henry Bushkin? Yeah, I knew Henry.
He wrote a book about Johnny.
No, it was you know, there was some friction there at the end. But if Henry was good, he was his lawyer, and I knew them very well. We were all in the same office and he did very very well. By by by Johnny. I think they're they're big turning point. They bought a TV station in Las Vegas, and I think it was Channel five. But you know when they first bought it, you know, back when TV was in its infancy stage in a sense, when when Howard Hughes took over Las Vegas and we were all working there, Uh, the only channel we'd watch after the show was this Channel five that was the only channel estayed on late. We'd watch movies and hang and so when Hughes took over, we never knew when he was in town. Nobody knew it'd sneak in. It's upstairs, downstairs. So one night we all go back and we're watching television and they started playing this film on Channel five, the one that Carson later bought years later, and it was ice Station Zebra, remember that with the English actor. We watched it and about ten minutes later the film couts back on again. And then the next day, you know, we finished kibbitzing in the casino and drinking, we go back and the goddamn films on again, Ice Station Zebra. Timus later it's on again. So we all said, going on, justinadra all of it. One of the ice pas Zebra, and we started checking on it. When Howard Hughes came to town, and every time he was there and he were sitting up in his room, that was his favorite movie. And he bought the channel and he called the kid that was on doing it and say play it. I get play it again my stations. That's how we knew he was in town. And then Johnny later bought the station.
Yeah.
Yeah, he was a character, Howard.
I just remember all the stories about him just being you know, was held up in his room with the long aisles.
And the long well.
I knew him.
I used to see him walking at the Beverly Hills Hotel and my friend Ben Silverstein who owned it. You know, they have course catered to him and I was in the bungalow next to them, and you know, you'd see him at night and he went back door the restaurants. But Ben's bitch all the time was his hues would wake him up, like it three or four in the morning, say I want a banana cream pie in one hour, and they'd have to go out and get him a banana creep pie.
So, Kevin, just just one last question. So you've been on TV seemingly NonStop for over thirty five years, which is extraordinary, and yet you're still incredibly active on the stand up circuit. So I'm just curious, how does that continue to fulfill you doing stand up when you've had this extraordinary career on television. What is it that is that that keeps you going? I know what keeps you going doing television series whatever, But what you know, why does that, why does that motivation?
Well, stand up comedy was my first love. It's all I ever really wanted to do. And the acting is kind of secondary that came that came along, and you know, I was open to it, but I never stopped doing stand up. I always love doing that. So when I continue to do that, and if I don't do it, and I'm sure that, like Paul was saying, you feel like, you know, you're really you're.
Missing, out of touch, out of touch, not fulfilling yourself. The passion is not being fulfilled. Very true, dark hole between the artists and the audience, even you know, with music, even comedy, which is your love. When you're with them and they're giving you all that love back, it's there's nothing like a skip.
So that's why, that's why when comedians that performing readibly large venues, you see them just in a little comedy club, you know, trying out stuff and whatever. It's just to keep it going all the time, stay fresh, right.
Yeah.
And there's a lot of a lot of singers, for example, write songs about being on the road, and as much as they say they hate it, it's their life and they're used to it.
And I think that is part.
Of the passion that comes with it, and being with all the guys you know, and the girls and traveling, and it's a lifestyle for sure, and when you stop doing it, you really feel.
The only thing you have to be careful back then was the messing around when you finish the show and got in trouble. So my rule was do the show and go back to your.
Room, hell alone.
Exactly the temptations out there. You know, as a teenager when I started, they weren't reporting all that stuff.
It was insane.
It was insane when you go from a little town in Canada, you hang with the rat pack in Vegas. You know, the show was the fun thing, but then the real fun started after the show. So I tried to tell everybody that was up and coming, do your show and go back to your room.
Watch channel it's around. I love it when Paul tells me that when he was young, the girls used to throw their underwear up on the stage, and now they throw their canes.
No, they throw support stocks of course.
Talking let me ask you this, Paul, if you were.
Your compression socks inside out where your feet can explode or else?
Okay, close, I just don't wear shoes. I'm giving any one barefoot from now on.
No.
But you know, you start to realize, you know, I'm eighty two the people that you had at your audience last year. You know, we try to do account who's not here anymore? Let alone. I send my production manager out and say, okay, how many wheelchairs are here tonight? Things have changed.
Sometimes I go out on stage or i'm behind stage, I'm looking out the audience and I see all these old old people. Oh man, these people are so old, and I think, wait a minute, I'm older than they are.
This has been a blast, Kevin. You're just such a super guy to do this, and we'll love being with you. And I can't wait for more hiking with Kevin. I think it's just the greatest.
I just love it. I'm addicted to it.
I'm fit, Kevin. I'm fit.
Yeah, you are fit.
You look I'm fit on my camera.
I don't know what you're fit for, but.
We'll find something.
Yeah, I'll find out trail.
It's downhill, Okay, we'll start at the bottom. Thanks keV, appreciate it, man.
Thanks a million.
All right, guys, thanks for having me.
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