Big tech has called child safety reform a “global contagion risk.”
Why? Because when one country stands up, others follow, and that threatens their business model.

In this Spotlight Moment with 36Months founders, Michael 'Wippa' Wipfli and Greg Attwells, we unpack the confronting language being used behind closed doors to stop child protection from spreading. As Australia pushes forward, the world is watching, and the stakes could not be higher.

This week alone, 2.6 million teens were freed from an experiment they never chose.

This is an important, eye-opening conversation about the very real risks of social media, and the changes we can all make to support one young mind at a time.

New Zealand Helplines:


Lifeline: Call 0800 543 354 or text 4357 (HELP) (available 24/7)


Suicide Crisis Helpline: Call 0508 828 865 (0508 TAUTOKO) (available 24/7)


Youth services: (06) 3555 906


What’s Up: Call 0800 942 8787 (11am to 11pm) or webchat (11am to 10.30pm)


Depression helpline: Call 0800 111 757 or text 4202 (available 24/7)


Aoake te Rā – Free, brief therapeutic support service for those bereaved by suicide. Call 0800 000 053.


Helpline: Need to talk? Call or text 1737

Follow us @b416.nz or find out more at b416.co.nz

Big tech has called child safety reform a &ldquo;global contagion risk.&rdquo; Why? Because when one country stands up, others follow, and that threatens their business model.
In this Spotlight Moment with <a href="https://www.36months.com/">36Months</a> founders, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/wippa1/">Michael 'Wippa' Wipfli</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/gregattwells/?hl=en">Greg Attwells</a>, we unpack the confronting language being used behind closed doors to stop child protection from spreading. As Australia pushes forward, the world is watching, and the stakes could not be higher.
This week alone, 2.6 million teens were freed from an experiment they never chose. This is an important, eye-opening conversation about the very real risks of social media, and the changes we can all make to support&nbsp;one young mind&nbsp;at a time.
New Zealand Helplines:
<ul>
<li>
Lifeline: Call 0800 543 354 or text 4357 (HELP) (available 24/7)
</li>
<li>
Suicide Crisis Helpline: Call 0508 828 865 (0508 TAUTOKO) (available 24/7)
</li>
<li>
Youth services: (06) 3555 906
</li>
<li>
What&rsquo;s Up: Call 0800 942 8787 (11am to 11pm) or webchat (11am to 10.30pm)
</li>
<li>
Depression helpline: Call 0800 111 757 or text 4202 (available 24/7)
</li>
<li>
Aoake te Rā &ndash; Free, brief therapeutic support service for those bereaved by suicide. Call 0800 000 053.
</li>
<li>
Helpline: Need to talk? Call or text 1737 Follow us <a href="https://www.instagram.com/b416.nz/?hl=en">@b416.nz</a> or find out more at <a href="https://b416.co.nz/">b416.co.nz</a>
</li>
</ul>

Our young people live in an increasingly digital world. While technology can improve our lives in many ways, we ask: do the benefits of social media for young people outweigh the harms? In this podcast, we explore why it is so hard for young people to put their phones down, and the mental health challenges rising alongside their online lives.

Through lived-experience, expert insights, and honest conversations, we aim to understand what is happening for our tamariki online and what we can do to protect their precious mind during those formative, developmental years.

This podcast is about listening, learning, and not shying away from the hard truths. Understanding what is really happening for young people online is the first step to keeping them safe.

Hosted by Matilda Green, content creator, presenter and mother of three, and Dr Maneesh Deva, paediatrician and health innovator working on the front lines of our hospitals and ICUs, One Young Mind brings together a compelling mix of voices and perspectives to explore the challenges, pressures and realities young people face on social media.

One Young Mind is brought to you by the team behind B416, with support from 2degrees and their Fairer Phones programme, and iHeartRadio.

Follow us @b416.nz or find out more at b416.co.nz

Our young people live in an increasingly digital world. While technology can improve our lives in many ways, we ask: do the benefits of social media for young people outweigh the harms? In this podcast, we explore why it is so hard for young people to put their phones down, and the mental health challenges rising alongside their online lives.
Through lived-experience, expert insights, and honest conversations, we aim to understand what is happening for our tamariki online and what we can do to protect their precious mind during those formative, developmental years.
This podcast is about listening, learning, and not shying away from the hard truths. Understanding what is really happening for young people online is the first step to keeping them safe.
Hosted by Matilda Green, content creator, presenter and mother of three, and Dr Maneesh Deva, paediatrician and health innovator working on the front lines of our hospitals and ICUs, One Young Mind brings together a compelling mix of voices and perspectives to explore the challenges, pressures and realities young people face on social media.
One Young Mind is brought to you by the team behind B416, with support from 2degrees and their Fairer Phones programme, and iHeartRadio.
Follow us <a href="https://www.instagram.com/b416.nz/?hl=en">@b416.nz</a> or find out more at <a href="https://b416.co.nz/">b416.co.nz</a>

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Spotlight Moment from Episode 9: The "global contagion risk" with Michael 'Wippa' Wipfli and Greg Attwells 

In this deeply personal and moving episode of One Young Mind, New Zealand mother Jen shares the story of her son Harry, who died at the age of 18.

With extraordinary courage, Jen speaks about the changes she saw in Harry as he became increasingly drawn into the online world, the challenges her family faced trying to get the right support, and the questions she continues to live with.

Jen has chosen to share her story publicly in the hope it might help others - to shed light on what some families are navigating, to deepen understanding of the risks young people can encounter online, and to help those going through similar experiences feel less alone.

This is a conversation about love, parenting, grief and one mother’s determination to make sense of something no family should have to endure.

Content warning: This episode discusses suicide, grief and youth mental health. Please listen with care and at a time that feels right for you.

If this episode brings anything up for you, support is available:
Lifeline – Call 0800 543 354 or text 4357 (HELP)
Suicide Crisis Helpline – Call 0508 828 865 (0508 TAUTOKO)
Need to Talk? – Call or text 1737 any time
Depression Helpline – Call 0800 111 757 or text 4202
What’s Up – Call 0800 942 8787 (11am–11pm) or use webchat at whatsup.co.nz (11am–10.30pm)
Aoake te Rā – Free support for those bereaved by suicide. Call 0800 000 053

If it is an emergency and you feel like you or someone else is at immediate risk, call 111.

This podcast is brought to you by the B416 team.

In this deeply personal and moving episode of One Young Mind, New Zealand mother Jen shares the story of her son Harry, who died at the age of 18. With extraordinary courage, Jen speaks about the changes she saw in Harry as he became increasingly drawn into the online world, the challenges her family faced trying to get the right support, and the questions she continues to live with. Jen has chosen to share her story publicly in the hope it might help others - to shed light on what some families are navigating, to deepen understanding of the risks young people can encounter online, and to help those going through similar experiences feel less alone. This is a conversation about love, parenting, grief and one mother&rsquo;s determination to make sense of something no family should have to endure. Content warning: This episode discusses suicide, grief and youth mental health. Please listen with care and at a time that feels right for you. If this episode brings anything up for you, support is available: Lifeline &ndash; Call 0800 543 354 or text 4357 (HELP) Suicide Crisis Helpline &ndash; Call 0508 828 865 (0508 TAUTOKO) Need to Talk? &ndash; Call or text 1737 any time Depression Helpline &ndash; Call 0800 111 757 or text 4202 What&rsquo;s Up &ndash; Call 0800 942 8787 (11am&ndash;11pm) or use webchat at&nbsp;<a href="https://url.au.m.mimecastprotect.com/s/VqyiCD1jpNCYx5oQUku2TjT3vD?domain=whatsup.co.nz" data-auth="NotApplicable" data-linkindex="2">whatsup.co.nz</a>&nbsp;(11am&ndash;10.30pm) Aoake te Rā &ndash; Free support for those bereaved by suicide. Call 0800 000 053 If it is an emergency and you feel like you or someone else is at immediate risk, call 111. This podcast is brought to you by the B416 team.

Jen’s story: losing Harry

In this special episode of One Young Mind, we speak with Greg Atwells and Michael “Wippa” Wipfli, two of the dads behind 36 Months, the movement that helped Australia introduce a world-first minimum age for social media.

Recorded just after Australia’s under-16 law came into force, this conversation explores how a simple question, “What if no one was on it?”, sparked a national shift, and what New Zealand parents and policymakers can learn from it.

Greg and Wippa share what it took to turn parental concern into political action, how social norms rather than perfect enforcement drive lasting change, and why this moment matters far beyond Australia.

They also speak candidly about parenting through the transition. The grief some young people feel when social media is removed. The relief many parents experience. And the opportunity this creates to reclaim real-world independence, boredom, creativity and connection.

This is a hopeful, practical conversation about courage, leadership and why protecting children online should not rest on parents’ shoulders alone.

In this episode, we discuss:


How the 36 Months campaign began and why parents felt “damned if they do, damned if they don’t”


What changed once social media access became a legal issue rather than a parenting battle


Why age limits are about social norming, not punishment


How Australia moved quickly and what New Zealand can learn from that


Why tech companies can enforce age limits despite what they claim


Supporting children through the transition off social media


Practical ideas for parents navigating the off-social phase together

This episode is essential listening for parents, educators and anyone interested in how evidence, public will and leadership can come together to protect young minds.

In this special episode of&nbsp;One Young Mind, we speak with Greg Atwells and Michael &ldquo;Wippa&rdquo; Wipfli, two of the dads behind&nbsp;36 Months, the movement that helped Australia introduce a world-first minimum age for social media.
Recorded just after Australia&rsquo;s under-16 law came into force, this conversation explores how a simple question, &ldquo;What if no one was on it?&rdquo;, sparked a national shift, and what New Zealand parents and policymakers can learn from it.
Greg and Wippa share what it took to turn parental concern into political action, how social norms rather than perfect enforcement drive lasting change, and why this moment matters far beyond Australia.
They also speak candidly about parenting through the transition. The grief some young people feel when social media is removed. The relief many parents experience. And the opportunity this creates to reclaim real-world independence, boredom, creativity and connection.
This is a hopeful, practical conversation about courage, leadership and why protecting children online should not rest on parents&rsquo; shoulders alone.
In this episode, we discuss:
<ul>
<li>
How the 36 Months campaign began and why parents felt &ldquo;damned if they do, damned if they don&rsquo;t&rdquo;
</li>
<li>
What changed once social media access became a legal issue rather than a parenting battle
</li>
<li>
Why age limits are about social norming, not punishment
</li>
<li>
How Australia moved quickly and what New Zealand can learn from that
</li>
<li>
Why tech companies can enforce age limits despite what they claim
</li>
<li>
Supporting children through the transition off social media
</li>
<li>
Practical ideas for parents navigating the off-social phase together
</li>
</ul>
This episode is essential listening for parents, educators and anyone interested in how evidence, public will and leadership can come together to protect young minds.

How Australia Changed the Rules on Social Media with Greg Attwells and Michael “Wippa” Wipfli

In this Spotlight Moment, Jo Robertson speaks directly to parents already in the thick of it. She shares insights on what’s really happening for young people online, the pressures they’re under, and the practical steps you can take right now to protect and support your child.

This episode is for the parents whose kids are online, exposed, and trying to make sense of a digital world that’s moving fast. If you’re feeling overwhelmed, unsure how to set boundaries, or worried about what your child is seeing and experiencing, this moment is for you.

This is an important, eye-opening conversation about the very real risks of social media, and the changes we can all make to support one young mind at a time.

New Zealand Helplines:


Lifeline: Call 0800 543 354 or text 4357 (HELP) (available 24/7)


Suicide Crisis Helpline: Call 0508 828 865 (0508 TAUTOKO) (available 24/7)


Youth services: (06) 3555 906


What’s Up: Call 0800 942 8787 (11am to 11pm) or webchat (11am to 10.30pm)


Depression helpline: Call 0800 111 757 or text 4202 (available 24/7)


Aoake te Rā – Free, brief therapeutic support service for those bereaved by suicide. Call 0800 000 053.


Helpline: Need to talk? Call or text 1737

Follow us @b416.nz or find out more at b416.co.nz

 

In this Spotlight Moment, <a href="https://www.jorobertson.org/">Jo Robertson</a> speaks directly to parents already in the thick of it. She shares insights on what&rsquo;s really happening for young people online, the pressures they&rsquo;re under, and the practical steps you can take right now to protect and support your child.
This episode is for the parents whose kids are online, exposed, and trying to make sense of a digital world that&rsquo;s moving fast. If you&rsquo;re feeling overwhelmed, unsure how to set boundaries, or worried about what your child is seeing and experiencing, this moment is for you.
This is an important, eye-opening conversation about the very real risks of social media, and the changes we can all make to support&nbsp;one young mind&nbsp;at a time.
New Zealand Helplines:
<ul>
<li>
Lifeline: Call 0800 543 354 or text 4357 (HELP) (available 24/7)
</li>
<li>
Suicide Crisis Helpline: Call 0508 828 865 (0508 TAUTOKO) (available 24/7)
</li>
<li>
Youth services: (06) 3555 906
</li>
<li>
What&rsquo;s Up: Call 0800 942 8787 (11am to 11pm) or webchat (11am to 10.30pm)
</li>
<li>
Depression helpline: Call 0800 111 757 or text 4202 (available 24/7)
</li>
<li>
Aoake te Rā &ndash; Free, brief therapeutic support service for those bereaved by suicide. Call 0800 000 053.
</li>
<li>
Helpline: Need to talk? Call or text 1737 Follow us <a href="https://www.instagram.com/b416.nz/?hl=en">@b416.nz</a> or find out more at <a href="https://b416.co.nz/">b416.co.nz</a>
</li>
</ul>
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Spotlight Moment from Episode 9: The "global contagion risk" with Michael 'Wippa' Wipfli and Greg Attwells

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