OBL 1/7: Nervous Or Excited For The Playoffs? Dan Orlovsky on Broncos-Bills Matchup

Published Jan 7, 2025, 8:23 PM
Chris Brown and Steve Tasker updated the latest from One Bills Drive as the team approaches their playoff game this weekend. They went around the NFL and asked the listeners as the playoffs approach are you more nervous or excited for the Bills? ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlovsky kicked off the second hour. He talked about Bo Nix's progression as a rookie QB, the playmaking ability of Broncos CB Patrick Surtain II and OLB Nik Bonitto. He also shared his thoughts on where the Bills can find success offensively with the use of their RBs, chunk plays against Denver's secondary, and the wild card matchups around the league.

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All right, welcome in on a Tuesday here wild Card week. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. One Bill's Live is here for you. So thanks for making us a part of your afternoon as we inch closer to the first playoff game for the Bills in this twenty twenty four season. And so, I don't know, I mean, it really kind of gets rolling tomorrow when the players are back on the practice field and all that jazz, and then then it becomes I don't know, more real. I feel like we've been drifting out here these last six weeks because the division was wrapped up. All they were playing for was locking down seating.

Right, And even then you didn't know who the other teams were gonna be. You could even wait, yeah, only until this last week.

Now it's more real. There's a there's an opponent, you know, when you're playing.

I don't know, it's just.

Feel it's better this way.

Well yeah, naturally, yeah, Oh, I'm totally with you.

Uh.

Now, you got to handle on what you can look for and what you got some expectations that.

Are actually founded in some fact.

You know, you can see what this game might look like in your own mind's eye, all of us have these opinions about that the teams were going to be matched up with the players, it looks like the Bronco And I'll say this too. I said this a couple of times yesterday. The Broncos were good all the way through this season. They went oho and two to start with, but since they were zero and two, they have been a playoff team ever since. And it took them like three or it took them five more weeks to get to the seven seed then, and they were at the five, six and seven seed all the way through the end of the season. They never dropped out of it. So they have been this good throughout. And of course they might have been even better if they didn't have the eleven and one or you know, fifteen and one, fifteen and two Chiefs chasing a team that they all they should have had beaten, you know what I mean. So there's a lot in this Broncos season that's really promising for them and their fans.

Right, and understand why they're totally pumped and excited. It's been nine years since their team has been to the playoffs and the last time they're there. They were in the Super Bowl, So yeah, it's been a minute for them. So I get why they're excited. We we lived that, probably waited almost twice as long, almost, but still at all we understand it. So got every right to be excited about your team. We get it. Ill will here on that part, because sometimes you got to wait a while in the vast abyss of irrelevancy before your team is once again relevant. So yeah, and they probably will be for a long time as long as Sean Payton's their head coach and they have a quarterback.

Well like Nix.

I mean, who knows what the future holds, and none of us do, but you know, bo Nix was good enough this year. You know, certainly they had a different kind of schedule than they'll get next year with the number two, with the with a second place schedule. Well maybe it'll be a third place schedule for them, won't it. Wow, that's because the Chargers are ahead of them, and that's right, right, So they get a third place schedule next year that'll help them conceivably. Yeah, well yeah from this end. Uh, that's that's it's really interesting. They've got They are a little you know, they're right where the you know, like you said, the Bills fans can really identify with where the Broncos fans are at right now. I tweeted out a thing that somebody else said, you know, after the game, you know, the Broncos fans wrong.

We want Buffalo. We want Buffalo.

That's the way it works, man. You gotta ask, you gotta get. That's what they were shooting for, and they got it, you know. So they're in and man, oh man, it's a game on.

Let's go.

It's uh as I sat here today just we're thinking that. I say, you're right, brownie, We're gonna be looking at the Broncos for a minute, right, No matter what happens in this game, the Broncos are going to be on the landscape now.

Yeah, because really they just need to add some offensive pieces. They kind of tore down their offense in the offseason. Moved Jerry Judy, moved Russell Wilson and a couple other pieces, and a running back that they were hopeful would come back and look a lot better two years removed from an ac on knee injury, and Javonte Williams has not right, and they didn't really have much in the cupboard there at the position behind him, And so you could argue there are some holes in their offensive lineup and that need fortifying, and I would anticipate they're going to address those this coming offseason and be an even better club next season.

They are scheduled to have sixty million dollars in dead cap next year. Of course, the Bill Russell Wilson thing, Yeah, that's you know, but that's that's part of the Wilson thing. But that's in twenty and this year, of course, they you know, they really took it on the chin. Yeah, and then half a deck.

Yeah, they had well right now they've only got well at the game. It's almost over.

But man, oh man, they've got dead cap space.

Well we've got it right here. Yeah, eighty nine million dollars in dead cap space.

True on that. It's tough.

Uh.

This week's game and the proud sponsor of this year's playoffs is Northtown Automotive Group. Whatever you're looking for, you'll find it at Northtown the official automotive dealer. Oh, the Buffalo Bills, But let's get to some Bills practice updates, which are presented by Leecom. You're lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine head coach Sean McDermot addressed the media yesterday as well as his coordinators, and I guess the first thing we should mention here is more interview requests continue for Bill's front office people. The Jets have requested permission to interview Bill's assistant GM, Brian Gain for their GM job. He is a former Jets scout. I mean he came up through the Jets organization when he first got into the business. They've already requested Joe Brady for a head coaching interview yesterday. When asked about the interview requests, which also include the New Orleans Saints and I believe the Chicago Bears. Yes, he was asked, you know, how are you finding a balance? But he was asked yes. Brady was asked how are you finding a balance between preparing for the wildcard game and also preparing for head coaching interviews, and he said, quote, there doesn't need to be much of a balance. My focus is on trying to win a game this week and winning a Super Bowl for this team. Do I aspire to be a head coach, Yes, given the right opportunity, But my focus is to find a way to win a football game this week, and truth be told, he's not even gonna interview until next week, and even then they'll be via zoom, not in person, provided the Bills are still in the postseason. If the Bills, by some hook or crook, don't win this weekend, well then it's different. He could interview in person at that point in time, but as long as his team still playing, only remote interview only because all the travel time would take time away from him trying to prepare a game plan for the Bills in the divisional playoff. And as I said, the most recent head coaching interview request for Brady comes from Chicago, as the Bears would like to interview him for their vacant post Jacksonville Jaguars also want to talk to Joe Brady as a possible head coaching candidate. Coach McDermott, in addressing the media yesterday, said DeMar Hamlin will return to the starting lineup. There was some debate outside the organization as to whether the time missed by Hamlin three games due to a rib injury would cost him his starting role come the playoffs. As Cole Bishop has shown signs of improvement in his play the last few weeks while Hamlin has been out, but McDermott said Hamlin will start alongside Taylor Rapp for Sunday's wild Card playoff game. Thoughts on that.

Doesn't surprise me Hamlin. You know, I think he's earned their trust and.

In playoff experience counts.

Sure. Oh absolutely, that's that's right.

And it used to be an old adage that a a player never loses his job due to an injury. When he comes back and he's ready, he's going to get it back. That's not quite as written in stone as it once was. You can lose your job to somebody if you get injured and you come back in your one hundred percent, because guys come in and play well and it's about you know, they there is no It used to be an unwritten rule, and players carried on with that a lot.

Not so much anymore.

I think they know that if if they come off the field for any reason, you know, like it's the thing I say about my own career. They didn't retire my jersey, They washed it, and that that's they just put a line through your number on the roster and put somebody else's number in there or.

Name in there.

Yeah, that's the league rolls on man, they can't stop. So but Damar has gotten one thing I think that going for him. That players come and that's their the coaching staff's trust. They know what they've got, a known commodity in Tamorrow. There may be better safeties out there or whatever, but they know what they've got on Damar and they and that gives them some.

You know, some confidence right now. All that being said, I wouldn't be stunned if there are some sub packages for this defense that include Cole Bishop.

Yeah, maybe maybe it doesn't.

I don't know that it goes like that so much for defenses as it does for offenses. Offenses they're really they can experiment with personnel and see what what are they going to do against this, and maybe force the defense's hand to do something that you haven't seen them do or that they haven't done. That doesn't happen so much where defense will throw a package out there and say what are you going to do?

Offense? Right?

I think if they felt vulnerable versus something that Broncos has shown, then you might get that.

But I don't know that that exists over there. Offensively for the Broncos fair enough.

McDermott was also asked about Amari Cooper's availability for Sunday's game after he missed last week's game due to a personal matter. Coach said Cooper has not yet reached into the team. He's hopeful he'll be available for Sunday's game, but right now they are just taking this personal situation a day at a time. All coach would say is it's a family matter and would not elaborate out of respect for Amar. So hopefully that gets resolved in short order and Cooper can return to the team and be ready to roll for this week's wild card game. Yeah, I mean, that's really all you can do, hoping kind of that resolves and.

We BRIDI and I don't have any idea what's going on to Mario.

I'm sure it is personal matter, and if if it is hopefully nothing really serious, if it is something he just needed to attend to and wanted to give it his full attentions for as long as he could, he would probably get back in town tonight, you know, and come in practice, get a full week of practice in. If it's something worse than then more than that, and don't forget last week's game was a throwaway, so that even the coaching stat is like, yeah, if you need to go that, he was declared out on it's Saturday, right, so if it is something serious and if he's will will know it if he's not in the building tomorrow.

Uh.

So that's kind of your Bill's news and notes that you need to know. That came out of yesterday's press conferences by head coach Sean McDermott and the coordinators as well. We will get to around the NFL in a second, but topic of discussion for you today as the playoffs quickly approach, here, are you more nervous or excited for the Bill's prospects here in the postseason? Eighth three, five point fifty one, eight and eight, five fifty two, five fifty those numbers to join us, and we do have open lines for you there. If you don't have time to give us a call, you can always hit us up on the tweets sheet at one Bill's Live. Because I don't know, talking to some of my neighbors, Steve, they're already biting their fingernails. I mean it is a known fact since twenty twenty, No NFL club has won more wild Card playoff games than the Bills. They've won four. No one else has won as many. It's a couple of teams with three, but nobody's won four in the last four seasons.

So yeah, I think we always you get to this week of the season when the Bills have been there a bunch these last six or seven years, it always dawns on you that has good and fun and unbelievably cool. This season has been, This regular season has been you get that, man, it could be over well, And.

I think that's where the nerves come from. Yeah, because they know it's win or go home, and because if the stake's involved. I think that's what ratchets up the nerve padder, you know what I mean.

Yeah, you don't get a second. Shit, you can't recover, right, you know, you drop a game, you can't recover from it.

It's not like week six, Oh, we'll get him next week, right, No, No, you'll get him next.

Season, right, you gonna gethim at the ya. That's this season's over. That's the It is the all or nothing nature of this that starts to grip people pretty quickly.

And really, you only have this of the four major sports in football because a lot of the other major sports they have playoff series in which you have an opportunity to recover, with the exception of some wacky stuff baseball does with wild cards, but this is one and survive in advance or see you later. College basketball, the NCAA Tournament another example of that.

Yeah, but I think a lot of it is. Yeah, it's it's different than anything else. It's there's no five game series.

Yeah, you know, best of seven, best of seven. Yeah, so it's uh so, you better play well on that day.

As Steve always said.

That's that's my mantra of this show. It's you gotta play well on that day. It doesn't matter how good you are, you gotta be good on that day. And that's that's an attitude, an environment. You can feel change from the regular season. If you're a player on any of these playoff teams, you'll they'll all feel it. Man, everything would just be a notch more serious. As hard as you work in the regular season, you know, the Bills got ready for that Chiefs game, they got ready for that big Detroit game, they got all these you know, had all these games on the on the schedule, and then this game last week hits and it's like, okay, let's you know, I'm even gonna play in this game this week. When guys turn it up, I mean, this is their day off. I went them the caffeteria. I'm it's like they're all in the building. Yeah, everybody, it's their day off. They're all up there sitting around just you know what the stakes are. Yeah, So it works.

Man.

It's a different environment this week, as you can imagine around the NFL.

But let's go to the phones at eight oh three zero five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Then I'm going to get on board and we lead off today with Jim on Grand Island. What do you got first gym? You're on one? Bill's Live.

Hey, Happy New York, Chris, Which God is the best? Just a couple of things. Two points I want to bring up to let you guys discuss this one. Everybody talks about how Denver's defense is supposed to be so great. I was looking at last the schedule that they played, and when I look back in their schedule for the last year, they really only played five games against what he would call elite quarterbacks. Baker, Mayfield, justin Herbert twice, Jackson for Baltimore, and Burrows for Cincinnati. When they played against these five, the only team they beat was Mayfield. They lost to Herbert twice, they lost to Jackson, they lost to Burrows. So when you really look at their schedule and when they played against the top quarterback, they didn't do too well. That's one thing that I wanted to look at and have you guys talked about that when we get the chance, because I know sometimes status statistics could be misleading. Yes, and you know that's uh. You know, I used to have an old statistics teacher once told me, put your one foot in a bucket of ice, put one foot in another, and on the average you're comfortable. So that can be something that could be different. The other point too, Let you guys talk about that in a minute then. And the other point that I was going to bring up is you guys talked about Bill Venovich, the referee that we got for the game. Now, if I remember correctly, and I think I did a little reading yesterday, that the crew for the playoffs isn't exactly the same crew.

That's true.

Yeah, So that's so there's a little bit miss. You know, you can say he doesn't cause many penalties, but you know he might have a back judge that there's nothing like wants to do it, nothing but throw flags for a pass interference. So those are a couple of things that I just wanted to point out. I don't think Denver's really played anybody. I mean, when they played a tough quarterback and they're going to go up against a tough one on Sunday, and I just think, and plus you know, being on the road, it's going to be a tough one. And answer your question, I'm not nervous. This is you know, you're nervous during the course of the year waiting to be sure you're going to make the playoffs, But once you're in it, I'm now, I'm excited, excited about the Gay. I'll be there. I got season tickets. We'll be there in the club level in two thirty and just you know, we'll be there. We'll be ready.

All right, Thanks Jim, appreciate that, and kudos to you for doing a little homework on your own. Uh yeah, you're one hundred percent right. Playoff officiating crews are a collection of the officials that have been rated the best by NFL coaching staffs all regular season. It's a reward for those officials because they get paid.

It's not in coaching. It's not the coaching staffs. It's in it's plus and minus. They get graded on their games. People think the officials aren't held accountable. Yes, they are graded by the league, by the ref, the head of officiating their office.

They go down the list. These guys are.

These guys are graded a good call, bad call, missed call, all of that stuff is graded week by week, and the best guys at the field, judge, side, judge, line, judge, umpire, head, ref all of this, all that stuff are rated and then the best ones get conglomerated onto That's that's why there's some There's always been a little bit of a debate as to whether they should have the best crew that works together the whole season go to the playoffs together, or the best guys at each position go.

To the playoffs together. That way they do it now is it's an individual thing.

It's kind of like a Pro Bowl squad.

That's right, except it's done they great them.

So it's so looking at the flags thrown and the penalties assessed by Bill Vinovich's crew all season long. Probably isn't an accurate indication of the kind of officiating we're going to see this weekend between the Bills and the Broncos, because it'll be a mixture of highly rated officials from across the league through the course of the regular season.

I said made the statement yesterday that when Vinovich did games, when they do games and there's these officiating crews that don't call very many penalties and don't have very many assessed penalties.

Excuse me, it might be bad. It might be bad for a team like Buffalo.

They tend to let defenses play in the What I mean by that is they can hold and grab and they do some more physical things in the secondary as a as a general rule, in the playoffs than normally in the regular season. Some officiating crews call it very tight, as we've seen throughout the regular season, and some officiating crews let them play. They let them play, which as an offensive player's let them cheat and see what you can do. You know, it's whoever cheats better wins the game. Because one team's playing outside the rules and they're grabbing jerseys and standing close and they're covering guys up, you can't make any plays on them. All of that goes into the mix of these officiating crews. Now that gets changed when Vinovich doesn't have the same other six guys on his crew, right, So that's and.

Then as for opposing quarterbacks, yeah, I mean they did a great job against Baker Mayfield. I mean they sacked him seven times, and I think they only gave up seven points in that win over Tampa Bay.

That was Week three, after they were zero and two.

Y Tampa Bay is probably the weakest of the playoff opponents in the NFC side of the ledger or you could argue they are played in a very weak division as well. But a good quarterback, I mean Baker Mayfield that forty one touchdown passes this year, he was super productive. So they did a good job against him. And that was in Tampa Bay, so that was on the road with that performance. And then as you said, they faced Herbert twice, they faced Mahomes and played against him quite well, held him to twenty five percent conversion in the red zone, and they sacked him four times in that game. And his offensive tackles aren't anything to write home about. And I think that's really something that might be missing the mark here. Let's not forget the Bills have given up the few of sacks in football the last two years running, and only fourteen this year in seventeen games.

Josh is hard to sack because of his athleticism and because he does have a really good offensive line as well.

You're right the.

Now Joe Burrow hung thirty on them bron Yeah, the Broncos.

They lost to they lost to Mahomes, they lost to Burrow, they lost to Herbert twice. They lost to Mahomes twice narrowly, and then they got blown out in this last game of course. Then they lost to Lamar and then they also lost to Justin Fields for Pittsburgh and Gino Smith. So they beat as you said, they beat Rogers, they beat the Raiders quarterback whoever was Raiders quarterback? In Week five, the Saints, the Panthers, the Falcons, the Raiders again, and then the Browns the Colts.

So it's not a murder's row that they've beaten.

No que, they're not playing a first play schedule, but.

That's not there, that's not by their design. I mean, you got to play who you play, but they beat those teams and some of them they thumped.

Let's go to Mike in Rochester, Nets. What do you got for us? Mike here on One Bill's Live.

Hey there, Happy new to you guys, and appreciate everything you guys are doing on the radio today. I wanted to bring up something. I don't know if anybody who's brought this up yet, but if you guys remember the twenty eighteen draft class, there's four quarterbacks that have made the playoffs from that draft class. Yeah, and I don't know if that was the last time that's happened. You know, I remember, obviously the nineteen eighty three draft class with Kelly and Marino and l Way, and you know they all went to super Bowls. But I don't know if it's when the last time we've seen an NFL playoff when four quarterbacks from the same draft class all made the playoffs.

Yeah, go back. Look the four class comes to mind with Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger.

And Philip Rivers.

And then I believe I might not have this right, I want to say Russell Wilson was in that draft class also, so that might be one to look at it at least look up and see if it's true.

But yeah, and look, these are all first rounders, you know, four of the five first rounders, you know, making the playoffs. That's pretty impressive. And the other thing I wanted to say is, you know, I look at the AFC playoffs, and you know, there's three teams that really have no pressure on them. I mean, there's no harm, no foul if they lose, with the Chargers and the Broncos, and you know, really probably to some extent, you know, Kansas City and Houston probably don't have any pressure on him either. But there's a lot of pressure on the Bills, you know, obviously because you know they haven't done it yet. And Lamar Jackson there's a lot of pressure on him, I think, And I think there's a lot of pressure on Oh jeez, Wuo's the other team here. They talk about the Lions, the Steelers, steel the Steelers, the Steelers. I'm just talking about the Assy the Steelers because you know, when was the last time Problemence won the playoff game. So it'll be interesting to see how the teams with the pressure on him, you know, do against the teams without you know, they have really nothing to loose, you know.

Yeah, pressure is kind of a funny thing. I understand the point, Mike. Look the Bills, as I said at the top of the show, they've won more wildcard games than anybody since twenty twenty. That's not the issue. I don't think they'll feel pressure in this round. Where I think they'll feel pressure is the divisional round where they've gone out of the playoffs, right, each of the last three chances they've had. That is where they might feel pressure. I agree with you. I think the Steelers will feel some feel some pressure, but they're playing a team that they're wholly familiar with, and yeah, Tomlin has not won a wild card game in four years. So they get to the playoffs, but then they can't win once they get there. Right, that's a narrative because it's gone on long enough to be one.

Yeah, that's certainly the way that falls. Nobody could knows. But there's here's the thing. There's pressure on all these teams. And you got you got nine hundred guys out there, right, I mean there's fourteen teams, got literally you got seven over seven hundred guys in this Yeah, there are seven hundred different levels of pressure and you got thirty coaches on every staff, and you got to have the same now you gotta have and that's where ahead and I'll say this, you got to tip your hat to these head coaches like Mike Tomlin and Andy Reid and of course Sean McDermott. These guys that go every single year. They got to have a handle on what makes their guys tick. You got to do it every year fresh. Your message can never get stale. The league is its own environment now even than when I played years and years ago. Now you've got a larger percentage of guys that have washed through, particularly for the Bills on this occasion, you got major contributors who weren't here a year ago. It's all got to stay fresh. But the stuff about pressure and about it that starts with guys like Josh and Dion and Rousseau and those kind of guys, and Rasul Douglas, the veterans, the Milano guys who have been around the block.

Knox is now part of that crew.

Guys who'll stand up and say, guys, hey, don't worry about that, don't worry about losing it.

Let's go out and play as good as we can play. Let's have fun. Let's go. If we play our game and lose, they can't stay with us. Let's go.

You need some leadership like that. It comes from the players and your head coach. That pressure thing is is very much internally generated, very much so. So every team will handle it differently, but they'll do it with they've They've got. The restat all is turn it up a little or turn it down a little bit, and that's their head coach does that for him and their leadership.

Let's go to Steve in Orchard Park next. What's up, Steve?

What's up? Guys going?

Good Man? Go ahead?

Yeah, Steve, great point. Couldn't agree you more with your last point there. And if I have to hear the name Skyler Thompson one more time, I'm gonna throw out It's just it was three years ago, and everybody, let's just I can't read off all the records that this team and individuals have set this year or would take up you know, fifteen minutes. This is one of the best teams in the NFL. They played two teams that have a combined thirty wins, and those teams have two losses a piece and won each by the Bills because they beat both of them. So this is a real This is maybe the finest Bills team all around that we've had, and people just need to realize that this is our time this year, it's not the Broncos time. I expect by the end of the first half, the Broncos will kind of say we're out of our weight class here a little bit. And that's what I'm expecting. I'm expecting this team to come out and play excellent football. Like Steve said, fast and loose, just play your game and they're going to be fine. Everybody needs to not be so nervous and realize we've got a pretty damn good team going this year. So that's just my opinion.

Yeah, you're right, I'll say when when I say fast and lose, Yet, you don't want to go out there and forget. But the reason coaches can tell want their players to do this is because they know how disciplined and the level of experience and knowledge their players have. They're not going to go off the rails. They trust them. That's where I think this coaching staff is with this crew, they got a lot of guys. I think their trust goes way deeper into their roster this year, particularly offensively than it ever has. And that's coming from a head coach who's on the defensive side of the ball. I think he trusts those guys on the offensive.

Side of the ball innately and they can just go out there and say, hey, just play your game.

Go and I think that's the place to be. And you're right, this may be one of the best editions of this team we've ever seen this year. They're going to get a chance to prove it, though, and they won't be considered that until it happens. You can say every you want on Tuesday before Wildcard weekend. I've always said I thought the best football of the year always happened on wild Card weekend, and then maybe again on Championship game weekend AFC and NFC Championship weekend. Wildcard wen you get teams that, sometimes not this year for the Bills, but sometimes had to sprint to the finish, like last year the Bills sprinting the finishing it and you got that you've been in that mode for so long, for a week, for five weeks, for a month, you know, coming in like the Broncos, they had to win one of their last three games, and you know they had to get it to the wire, and they did, and you saw their fans chanting in the stand. They had to beat the Chiefs on the final week of the season. There's a lot of trepidation going to that. But you get those teams that come in on a roll and they say, let's keep it rolling. They roll right into hot wild card weekend and they go hard. That's that's when you get some of your best football. I think now it's changed a little bit now that they've taken the buy away from the two top seeds. So I think the champ the divisional round sometimes gets.

Crushed by that.

You got the best team in the conference sitting for two weeks waiting on a team that's spent, and they crush them. So that's why I don't know about the divisional round of the playoffs as much as I do. Wildcard, Wildcard you're gonna get the best. You're gonna get the Denver Broncos best punch. You better be able to take it.

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Hey?

How you guys doing good?

Doing?

All right? Yeah?

I'm doing good too. Thanks.

I don't know what that one caller before the break was talking about why I have a couple other things as well. I don't know why they're worried about the officiating. I mean, just like Steve said, go out there and play your game. Number two, I don't know what they're putting in Rex Ryan's coffee.

On Get Up.

Yesterday, he was going all out saying that bo Nicks is gonna tear up the Bills defense. Let's not forget here that Kansas City. Let Boon Knicks look like Joe Montana. You know when Steve Spagnola just sat on the bench and didn't draw anything up because the game meant nothing. And number three, do you this is just a thing thrown out there? From my perspective, Do you think von Miller might have an extra edged his game this week because it's his former team?

I don't know. I mean these two teams removed. I mean, yes, he played the bulk of his career there. He was drafted by the Broncos number two overall in the twenty eleven draft. He won a Super Bowl there. I don't know. I think if it was in Denver, if the game was in Denver, maybe Lee, But I don't know. I think he's I think he's too far removed.

There'll be something in there for sure, little but I'm yeah, Vaughn's got probably nothing but happy and proud memories of his time in Denver's.

No ill ill will.

But you never want to not be a f or a factor in a game against your old team. So yeah, there might be a little something you have to ask him. But like Brownie said, it's been a minute since he's been there.

Yeah, so I don't know.

And yeah, different coach, different players, everything.

And yes, you're right, Nix isn't tearing up the league, but he's been very productive. I mean, he's got twenty nine touchdown passes. He also has twelve interceptions, so you know, he's still a rookie that has not seen everything yet. And Sean McDermott is as coach of the Bills, is eleven and four against rookie quarterbacks, so and one of those games was the throwaway game last week that they lost so against Joe Milton, so eleven and three, and even then you got the Sam Darnold game back in twenty eighteen at the end of the season. I'm trying to remember if Josh played that whole game. I think he did. So he's had his fair share of success against rookie quarterbacks, So yes, I would tend to agree with you. Lee to Carmen in Ohio, next, what do you got for us? Carmen?

Hey happy to your guys, what do you think about because it seems like Denver's like one dimensional with the passing game.

Do you think our secondary could hold up most of the game or could he be a breakdown like.

It was in La Now?

I think they're gonna hold up well, Carmen. And the reason why is because they rely unusually, they rely heavily on Courtland Sutton. He's a proven number one wide receiver. He's a special talent. But the Bills have a pretty good number one corner in Christian Benford, So I think if you can neutralize him and keep him under wraps, you go a long way to winning the football game defensively, because to your point, they do not run the ball well. Sean Payton puts an enormous amount on bow Nick's plate to carry the offense, and at sometimes this season he has He's been very productive sometimes, but he doesn't have enough weapons around him, and being a young quarterback, it's hard for young quarterbacks, even good ones, to elevate all the players around them. And I just don't know that they have enough horses here, no pun intended with them being the Broncos. I don't know that they have the horses to compete offensively with this Bill's offense and keep up.

So right, yeah, there's a lot in this and we don't know, but yes, Denver's offense needs Courtland Sutton to show up big time. Certainly, the Bill's pass rush is gonna have a lot to think about with bo Nix's ability to run around. I think the one thing that'll scay and I think the chance they've got for real big plays is when Nicks goes off script. He is you know, we know how a good job well Josh runs. But the difference is bo Nix is fast. He runs fast. That may be a problem for Buffalo. So they do bring something to the table offensively. They're a good football team and they're coming off a win. That's got to give him a lot of confidence. Despite the fact that you know, they had three All Pros sitting on the bench in Kansas City when they played in Denver.

Four for Kansas City in Denver. Yeah, four guys, four All Pros.

So they got a ton of guys that they didn't have to play against but still you're playing in an NFL game. You play like that in your own building, you look good doing it. You got to have a lot of confidence coming into Buffalo.

We go to Jerry in Tonawanda next. What's up, Jerry?

Yeah, hey, guys. I know this is a little bit off topic, but I tried getting the hold of these last couple of weeks without success. A couple weeks ago, it was brought up about earthquake Ken Yard and I'm a little bit older than the two of you, so I remember rather vividly when he was drafted in the second round, had a great career at Oregon State, and I think here in Buffalo we thought for the next ten years with Oja beating the first pick and then then their second year there, our backfield was set for for that period of time. But I'm wandering. It led to the question in terms of the de valuing of the fullback, and I realized this is over fifty years ago and the game has evolved. But you know, I can still remember Jim Brown, who I think still is the greatest running back of all time. He was a full back. He played with a guy by the name of Ernie Green that most people. That's probably a trivia answer to most people. Jim Taylor and Green Bay was a fullback, of course, Cookie gil Christ here and I'm just one of about the positions changed even to when you played Steve, Jamie Mueller and Carl walk Gardner, they were more of the bruising type fullbacks, and now I think the forty nine ers are the only team that starts to fullback. So I'm just wondering about the evolution, why the fullback was prominent done and how it's basically disappeared. And then my second question was in relation to a j Apanessa. I noticed that one when he lines up, he's generally in a four point stance, and I'm wondering, Steve, what's the advantage, advantages and disadvantages.

Of doing that.

I don't see many defensive ends doing that, but I'm just wondering your thoughts on that. So I'll hang up and listen, But thanks guys.

B sure.

First of all, the fullback position, there's there's a lot of teams that have a fullback. The Bills have a fullback, Baltimore has a full back. Everybody's got a full back. The problem is they have like one and he's usually a pretty versatile player and more like like could play tight end.

Maybe they could take a hand off now and again.

But the reason that it has been devalued is because the run game has become different than it was fifty years ago.

To say the least, Jets didn't have one. This year, Patriots didn't have one.

So it does.

There are some teams that have just scrapped it all together sometimes because they have maybe an undersized tight end that can also double in that role.

Want to line use Alec Anderson as a full back if you're not going to get in the ball.

That's what the Chargers and the Ravens do. They got a two hundred and ninety five pound guy as a full back.

If you're not going to hand the guy the ball, you don't care if he has his elbows taped up, you know, or his hands taped up.

You know, let's go.

It does make you somewhat predictable in some ways if you if you use him in the old classic way where he's offset eye, here we go. We're gonna the running back is gonna follow his full back.

Okay, but.

The game is just evolved by past that. Well, I don't say past it or to a different place and running up throwing the ball is more prominent. It's just that simple. And there are better athletes out there that aren't built like fullbacks that you want to get on the field and get the ball in some space.

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Guys?

How you doing?

How do you new your so far?

Good?

So good?

Knock on wood right, Yeah, I'm knocking onto my TV trainers. Would I'm excited, but I'm a little bit nervous and not so much the team. I've talked to different Bills fans over the weeks, like a like a store, you know, holiday shopping whatever, and even not so much the Houston game, the three and complete passes. I'm way past that. But the mistakes I'm worried about. And they talked about the ram blunder of the time out and the worst time they they totally sometimes do trust make Dermott, but there's some etchiness into it that if they make the wrong time out, the wrong time or the wrong they weren't worried about. So we're not just me saying this. So they're worried about something like that. It's something like that could send you home to wait the next year. So you know, the wrong time out, the wrong challenge or not he can a challenge, he should have challenge that he might have gotten in our favor or something like that because this is a time or something like Dad will send you home for next year.

So yeah, I get the concern, and look, could it be a close game? Sure, I don't know. I tend to think the Bills are in a different way class than the Broncos, who have had a nice season in year or two under Sean Payton. I just I think the Bills would have to play down to their level of competition to not emerge with a victory this week.

Yeah.

With this quarterback and the way he's led this team, in the way this roster is constructed, I kind of expect him to play.

Really, really well in this game.

So if if the Broncos can keep up with them, bless their heart, you know, good, but it's hard to do. I think this team scores points. Josh has That's been the hallmark of his entire career. Now, there's been games here and there where he hasn't, but man, oh man, the guy's a touchdown factory. That's been the hallmark of his career. I think this is a little and and he has been brilliant in playoff runs, so I would expect more of that.

Yeah, we move along to Pat in Buffalo next. What's up, Pat?

What's up?

My man?

How are you I just want to touch base. It was a couple of calls back. The guy said that the Bill that the Broncos haven't played any you know, they struggle against top quarterbacks. You know, I just want to elaborate on that, man, So so do the Bills. They're they're two and two. They you know, against top you know, C. J. Schroud, baltim they beat the they lost to Baltimore, they beat KC which has always happened during the regular season, and then they beat Detroit. Okay, well, Josh Allen's one of five versus top quarterbacks in the playoffs. So you know, yeah, you might go and get the win, but it's not you know, the Broncos you really gotta worr about. You gotta worry about the next you know, if you play Baltimore, when you go to camp of the city and play them on the road, you know that. That's that's what I you know, that's what that's my worry about. You know, that's what I'm worried about.

I mean, Josh, Josh does have one win against Lamar in the playoffs, just so you know, that's what I said.

Yeah, that's why I said, he's he's what one and what he lost to Mahomes three times, and Burrow and Burrow and Burrow, and he lost his rookie year to Deshaun Watson, and he beat Lamar and he got injured in the third quarter. So you know, I'm not you know, he's got a you know, you gotta show me something. You know, during the regular season, you beat Mahomes, go do it in the playoffs.

Yeah, he also beat way back in the day, he beat Philip Rivers.

You know.

Yeah, I'll say this, I'll take Josh. I mean, if you don't, if you think Josh is gonna struggle against the top quarterback.

And I think it's the other thing you can add in there, Steve, And you've mentioned this before. Josh's game goes up a notch in the playoffs. He's even better in the post season historically, over the last or four seas.

Think about even even then, a casual observer will say, man, that guy played really good in that game. You know, uh, they'll say, yeah, I saw that get that guy played really good. Even a casual observer. And you look at Josh's numbers, they're elite.

It hasn't the playoff exits the last few years Josh is not the same Josh. They're not. That's not the guy you're you're looking at after the game going how did we not win this game? I'm just just go look at his numbers. He's not the guy you get. You're you're pinning it on the wrong person. I think because he's taken his game up a notch in the postseason and scoring points has not been a problem for this Bill's offense the last couple of years in the playoffs, with a couple of exceptions the divisional game against Cincinnati, which I will maintain until the day I die. They were they were a football team that was an emotional wreck and and we're not ready to play football three weeks after watching their teammate expire on the field and get resuscitated. So that's in there. And yes it was a game. It didn't count, so you want to count that, fine, But I think there deserves to be an asterisk there. But last year, twenty four points against the Chiefs team, it was a top three defense in football, and if you look at the rest of that playoff run, they did not give up twenty four points to any other team the rest of the way, including the forty nine ers who needed overtime to score twenty two. So, yeah, Josh is not hard to keep.

Up the scoreboard, I think. And that's what's gonna That's what Denver's gonna see too. They're gonna be they got to keep up with them. Now, even if the Broncos can't keep the Bills to like round twenty points, they're gonna have to keep up with that. This is a Bills team that runs the football effectively. Even against good teams with good run defense, the Bills are gonna stick with the run because if it's a close game, oh that they they're not afraid to run the ball in a tight game.

They don't go to their.

Easy So you're not gonna get that many possessions if you're Denver if it comes to that. So the Bills have no problem choking the life out of a game and playing it close, but they're gonna score points.

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All right, our number two on a Tuesday. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you here on One Bills Live and joined now by ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlofsky, whose appearance is on One Bills Live are presented by Caesar Sportsbook, an official mobile sports betting partner of the Buffalo Bills and Dan, I'll begin with an apology on behalf of us here at One Bill's Live. We bring you on our show for your opinions because we value them. We don't pay you for your opinions or pay you to say certain things. And I know you got some backlash from Ravens fans who actually used clips from our show if you stole the virtues of Josh Allen's talents for MVP and basically saying your page just say that because you're on a bill show. So apologies from us for you having to endure the social media backlash. It's unwarranted, it's unnecessary. And I think we've even said on this show with you on it, that just because you're saying this guy is deserving doesn't immediately dismiss the other guy in the conversation. I don't know why it's been all you're saying good things about this guy, it's a diss on that guy. It's not.

Yeah, no, no, well I appreciate that, totally unneeded. You know, we're in this business. That's going to be part of it nowadays in modern day.

I saw all that.

I tried not to pay attention to it much. The funny thing I kept thinking to myself was while I was on this very show last year, and while doing this very show last year, I voted for Lamar Jackson as the MVP. So yeah, I saw plenty of Ravens fans this weekend, obviously thousands. Every one of them was awesome. Every one of them were crazy cool. Every one of them, like not most of them we mentioned MVP. They did it in a joking manner or a light hearted manner. So social media is, we all know what it is. So I love being on the show among other shows. So I think they're both remarkable players, along with Saquon Barkley and Joe Burrow and plenty of guys who had incredible seasons. And I really hope that you know, we can focus on that rather than turning it into this.

Right, So we've got that.

We finally got here, and we've been talking about this, Brownie were saying for like six weeks. We've been waiting on this to come because of Bill's wrapped the division up so early. And we finally got the Denver Broncos coming to Buffalo in the wildcard round. Got some great, great quarterback matchups in this first round of the playoffs.

It's really gonna be a lot of fun to see.

At the one, I was laughing because today if you look at the Green Bay Philly matchup, the two quarterbacks Love hurts Man, Yeah and Jalen. It's it's gonna be fun. And here we've got bo Nicks coming into Buffalo to face Josh Allen. Tell us a little bit about what you think this matchup is gonna look like overall.

Well, first of all, don't you can't think that you're just playing some rookie quarterback. I mean, Bo Nicks one has played a ton of football in his life. Started at Auburn, played very early on transfers to Oregon, you know, really develops as a quarterback. He's played a ton of football and he really hasn't had a moment this year that he has, you know, at least looked overwhelmed. He's handled a lot of the season really well, and he's only developed and grown under Sean Payton and Davis web throughout this year. I really think that one. You know, it's gonna be interesting to see how Buffalo handles some of their perimeter screen. You know, this is a really big perimeter screen offense, and they've got young players like Marvin Mims who has a lot of returner skills that they just try to get the football to his into his ends out in space, and he's really good at it. I think the second thing is how they handle Courtland Sutton. Obviously they know him because they've played against them, but he has kind of been unlocked this year with Bo Nicks. No question, he's their go to guy. His size matters. They use him a ton down in the red zone. I think that they love to throw some big ins and seams to Sutton. So like how they handle Sutton's a big deal. I'd also say how they treat Bo's legs. And he's a big time, big time athlete and he takes off with his legs on a consistent basis, so their past game. I don't want to present it as this unbelievably scary one or diverse, but it's efficient. They try to take their chunk shots when they feel the opportunities present themselves. He's aggressive with the football, he checks it down when it's not there. He uses his legs so like he's an efficient, efficient player. I think that they're willing to put big bodies on the field, to put two backs and two tight ends on the field, and they'll run the ball at you. And their run game is good. It's a physical offensive line. You know, Bowls is really good at the left tackle spot. So I do think their offense is capable of presenting some challenges. Defensively, it's elite. It's an elite defense. And I've said this, I don't love the matchup for Buffalo. I really don't. They you know, lead the NFL in sacks and sixty three when Riley Moss their corner plays. They play man coverage a lot. They will take Patrick Sirtan and treat him like if Bill's fans remember you know Rex Ryan treating Darrell Reevas. They will put Patrick Sirtan on one side of the field. By himself and say you cover that side of the field and then everybody else they can play a little bit of a favorable man or they'll kick a zone coverage over there, and so you know, how they're handling Sirtan on every play is gonna be a big deal. And then their defensive front is fantastic. Guys Jonathan Cooper is outstanding, Nick Benito is a defensive Player of the Year. Can the guy with the ball right now? Patrick Surtain is probably a defensive the year Defensive Player of the Year favorite, Zach Allen on the inside. I mean it's the offensive line that gave up the least amount of sacks versus the defensive line that got the most. So I think it's a really good matchup.

Yeah, and then with Nicks, like, where has his game do you think matured the most through the course of the season, Because I mean, Peyton puts a lot on his plate, and you know, the run game has not been super consistent for them week to week, and so Peyton just seemingly has lumped more onto Knicks and and he's for the most part kind of handled it. So where is he matured the most? Do you think from start to finish this season.

No question decision making. And I would tell you what they've done for him and then what he's executing really well is they provide a lot of clarity for the things that he does. You know, it is, hey, both this guy does this, then you do this with the ball, and so he plays quick in that regard. I don't he's not seeing four or five different things going on. You know, they there's a little bit well, they'll get into some of the four by ones that we've talked about so often on the show, and you know there's a there's an RPO to it, or they'll get into their play action game and it's a high low concept one to two and so you know, I think that they've expedited his decision making. Down in the red zone is when they get very aggressive as an offense. That's when they get their most creative as an offense. They're in their in their kind of meat of the field offense. A lot of the schemes and stuff that they run is gonna be stuff that Buffalo is very accustomed to seeing, and so he's very efficient in his decision making. Again, his legs are a huge part. But when down in the red zone is when he gets and they get his most creative And you know, for a young man that obviously is a rookie, he doesn't decision make like a rookie. He decision makes like he's a guy that has seen a lot of different deals defences over the course of his long career, and so he doesn't play like a rookie at all.

And the thing you see about it too, is it a little bit like Josh, although a little different. I say, you know, everybody says Josh can run, and all these quarterbacks can run. My word about Joe bo Nicks is that he can outrun.

He's fast, He's a great athlete. Yeah can he Now does he couple that with being able to go off the page?

Yeah?

That I mean, they don't use him as a design run guy at all. I mean that's he's a creator.

Now.

They will run you know, the quote unquote bootleg indoor keeper game, and he can go both ways with it. They don't do it out of the gun as much they do it under center. But yeah, he is more of a takeoff now. I guess the downside to it, and where you can sometimes get him is he will leave a clean pocket occasionally, he he doesn't love to climb the pocket. It's more to get out to his right. And so if you kind of make him feel some mud, maybe be picked up as an offense. But he just leaves because he is such an athlete and he maybe wants to see the field, so you can get that out of him. But he's more of a go escape bad stuff rather than I'm gonna go create just to create.

Yeah, Buffalo's run game, you know, figures to be big in this I mean they got thirty rushing thirty two rushing touchdowns this season. It led the league. Yeah, been dynamic in the red zone where they're second in the league. But between the twenties is where I'm thinking they're gonna have to make some hay in the run game just to stay on schedule offensively, because you don't want to be in third and eight and third and nine against that pass rush. So how do you see Buffalo's run game kind of fitting up against the run defense that ranks third in the league.

Yeah, I don't think that you want to bang your head against this defensive line. I mean, the Bills fans probably don't know a ton about Zach Allen He's gonna be All pros interior defensive tackle. He is absolutely sensational. I would tell you this, Chris. I think the backs matter a ton. I just believe more in the pass game than in the run game. One. James Cook and Davis and Ty Johnson are very good pass catching backs. All three of them have had moments this year where they've kind of won the game in that regard. And if you had to ask me, the one area that I think that you can get after, since Denver's defense the most through the air, it's actually at their backers. If you just have watched throughout the season and watched this defense play and the teams that I've had success throwing the football against them outside of the Cincinnati game. The Cincinnati game is a little bit of an outlier because it's Cincinnati. It really is working their linebackers and coverage and trying to get the ball to your backs in the pass game. Sometimes it's perimeter screens and sometimes it's getting the ball in their hands, and sometimes you're actually building them into the progression of the pass concept. So I understand the premise of like wanting to run the football.

I think this is a big throw it to the backs game for Buffalo.

All right, So with that in mind, could it couldn't mimic to some degree what we saw against Detroit? Yep?

Yep, absolutely. I think that's the vision I have for the game. Denver's defense is more talented. And you know, like we talked about this on NFL Live yesterday, is you know, one of the things that Buffalo has had so much success on this year is again that four by one formation. The thing that makes me scared about it and this game. If I was a Buffalo fan, was I have video evidence of that defense in Denver playing the four x one formation versus multiple teams. And what they do with Certain is they play him on the single and then they zone the front side, and so he's so good that he takes away that one. And usually in the four by one you gain an advantage front side. Sometimes it's with your run game, sometimes with just your perimeter screen or bubble or RPO game that's gonna get taken away a little bit because Denver doesn't lose the number, doesn't lose the half of the body because of Certain. So I do think it looks like the Detroit game schematically, where you really want to create those single one on one matchups versus those linebackers and try to actually create some chunk throws down the field.

So in this chunk play kind of scenario, do you do you think you designed the chunk plays? Do you think they come from a short pass, long run or does the ball travel that far? I mean, what kind of you know, what kind of chunk plays are we looking at?

Yeah, I think it's a little bit of both. You know, I do believe that you can design some chunk throws if you remember the I believe it was Tye Johnson against Detroit on that wheel rail route, So things like that. Or you can build seam throws down the field. Yeah, stuff like this. You can create those matchups to try to take advantage of those down the field. You also want to get them running sideline the sideline, you know, you want to create those rubs or those meshes or those shallows with some of those pass catching backs and some of those pick plays. The second thing I'd say about this defense is, and I'll be interested in if Joe Brady does this. So again, I believe that this defense is high end when it comes to them playing man coverage. The ironic or odd thing about it is when they play their quarters coverage, which is their zone defense. Every secondary guy's got a quarter of the field, but it's kind of a match underneath where those guys will match a player that comes into their space. They struggle with it. And if I were Buffalo and I ever got to the line of scrimmage, I would almost want to build in stuff. Hey, Josh, we get there and they're in quarters, we want to take our shots down the field. We want to take our shots on some of these scissor concepts or you know, flood concepts, because that's the stuff that they've really struggled with the most is when they're in quarters defense.

All right, and if they're going to play a decent degree of man, that can be a danger against Josh. With everybody's back turned, it can take off and run and hurt you too. Who do they usually? Do they have a typical spy guy that they utilize, And if so, who is that?

Yeah, it's Nick Benito. Nick Benito is the guy that you know, he's a really interesting player because he plays he's an edge, you know, he's a defensive lineman, but he's an unbelievably athletic player. And you know, when they play a player like a Patrick Mahomes, Benito's often the guy that is the kind of person spying in those situations. If you guys remember the Colts game from a couple of weeks ago, He's the one that intercepts that double pass screen attempt and takes it back to the house. And so he's big enough and strong enough to play on the on the line of scrimmage. He's athletic enough. Here's another pick six athletic enough to kind of play out in space. And he's athletic.

You know.

Obviously Josh a big time player, but I do believe that he's athletic enough and big enough to at least give them a puncher's chance versus Josh when he wants to become an athlete. Banito's the guy.

Yeah, And if you get into this, Benito's he's got thirteen and a half sacks as well. How do they use him so that he gets that many sacks?

Yeah, I mean one of it is they love their five man pressure package, you know, because again they get to play man defense and they put five guys across the line of scrimmage and they're just trying to create those one on ones versus your offensive line, and so many times and it's not They're so good up front. You can't just focus on one guy because Jonathan Cooper, who plays opposite him, is outstanding, and then inside is Allen and so you as an offensive line. I think that's one of the most fascinating parts about this game. This is the offensive line that gave up the least amount of sacks. Good offensive line play. Obviously Josh has a big part of that versus the unit. They got the most in the defensive line. So you know, they just create one on one matchups versus him, and they try to find, you know, guys that they create, you know, the favorable Sometimes it's Benitos, sometimes it's Allen Inside, sometimes it's Jonathan Cooper. It's a it's a big time front. I don't want to present this to Bills fans as you know, doom and gloom, but I also want to make sure that it's very clear this is a really, really good defense.

Looking at the rest of the slate. You know, the television networks kind of had some fun with this. All the AFC games are going to be done by four pm on Sunday, and we will have yet to play an NFC playoff game. It goes AFC All three and then NFC All three after that. Which one would you say intrigues you the most in terms of a unique matchup if.

You had it.

Yeah, I think the one that we've talked about.

I really believe.

I mean, I said this yesterday morning on TV. It's the team. It's the game that has my attention the most of the game, you know, Candle that I have a little bit more of a I could see it upset here as much as I believe in Buffalo, Green Bay and Philly, we got to see what the health of the quarterbacks is. I'd be shocked if both of them don't play. But green Bay losing Christian Watson's a really big deal. Pittsburgh, you know, versus Baltimore. I was just in Baltimore. They're absolutely sensational. Derek Henry changes everything for them. Lamar's having an unbelievable year. They're not going to give George Pickens a lot of one on one, So I kind of have a feeling I know how that game's gonna go in away. I fully expect the Chargers to beat Houston outstanding defense, violent on the defensive line, and I think that they can create some big plays down the field versus Houston secondary. So I think the Chargers win. I think the Ravens win. I think the Eagles win. Commander's Tampa is really interesting just because you know, Jayden played against Tampa week one, but he's a completely different player than he is than he was Week one. And then Minnesota LA. I could see either team winning candidly. You know, Minnesota's offensive line got destroyed last week versus Detroit, and the Rams defensive line is also very good, so it should be an awesome weekend.

I got to to ask you about two playoff teams in the AFC bracket, the Steelers in the Houston Texans.

Both those teams.

Seem to be withering at the end yep, justin It's been going on for a minute now, maybe a couple of months now. They just haven't looked the same. And I was gonna ask you why do you think that is certainly on? It could be Russ Wilson, maybe the age is catching up to him, not as sharp as he wants was, and injuries as well, But what do you think about Pittsburgh and Houston, they have just like other teams like Buffalo, like Baltimore, some of these teams are man, they are hitting it, they're chriscendoing. It just seems just the opposite in Pittsburgh and Houston.

Houston, I could tell you Houston played the Indianapolis Colt in Week one and my massive takeaway from that game was, oh, my gosh, they better fix their offensive line because CJ. Straw was running for his life. Hasn't been fixed. Their offensive line just has not played up to part this year. Specifically the internal part of their offensive line, the two guards and center. You run pick games against them and stunts and they struggle, and so I think the Chargers will do a ton of that, and that's really the crux of why they've struggled outside of they lost Nico Collins first stretch, Stefan Diggs goes down and Tank Dell, so they're depleted on the perimeter with a horror offensive line. That's the main part of why they are where they are and kind of withering Pittsburgh. I think two things. Defensively, what happened against Cleveland like six weeks ago when they played was Cleveland spread them out sideline to sideline and made them play a little bit more in space, not in the phone booth. Their defensive line is awesome. I think everybody else you can get after a little bit. I think that teams have started to do that a little bit more. And then offensively, it's George Pickens deep balls, and if they don't have that, the pass game struggles. The offensive line is an OK unit, and so Russ holding onto the ball because he's not getting the one on one shot down the field, and they're just not consistent enough running the football getting to the second level, and so they're an offense that really is a kind of a one trick pony in that regard, Do you think.

There's a possibility fields could be utilized in some way, shape or form, maybe even in the red zone where they have struggled mightily as well too, to punch it in the end zone time and time. That's been like a season long problem.

But I have felt for two months that he would and should and he just hasn't. Now he's been beat up a little bit some games. He's been active because of it. But you know, in a winner go home situation, I think you have to entertain you know, the package in those situational moments that give your team the best chance to score points.

Yeah, because I mean if all is lost, at least fields kentuck it and run a little bit and help you that way exactly.

Yeah, Yeah, any surprises, what team do you think maybe has a chance.

I mean, give me, give me a two or three teams maybe outside the number one, two and three seeds that may have a shot to make the run at it in either conference.

Outside of those time, because I do think the AFC is really a three team race. But if I was picking out of those four other teams, I would say the Chargers. The thing about the Chargers that again throughout the whole season, the overwhelming takeaways, they just never get behind the sticks. On offense, they're just crazy. It's not flashy, it's not sexy, it's not unbelievable, but there's very little negative plays on their offense, and so it kind of keeps them in the game all the time. And their defense is crazy when it comes to the disguises, and I could see them kind of making a little bit of a run and raising somebody. They're just so well coached. And then Herbert can get hot obviously in the NFC. You know, I really believe if the Rams pass game and Cooper Cup and Matthew Stafford can kind of reignite for a three week stretch some of the stuff we've seen in their past. I think they run the ball well. Their past game is phenomenal with the way to create the chunks, and their defensive line defensively is a group that will just constantly get after you, so I would say.

Them, damn.

Thanks is always appreciate it. We'll catch up with you.

Thanks Dan, Thanks guys.

Enjoy all right. That's Dan Orlowski, ESPN NFL Analysts joining us as he does every week on a Tuesday, with an interesting take on the Broncos, a team that he clearly has a lot of respect for. With the season they've been able to put together. Defense is elite. I mean the numbers say that sometimes seeing numbers on a paper and then playing them face to face is a different animal when you get them out there.

Yeah, yeah, their defense is good. We knew that, and you can you know, casual observer will tell you that. I think this is a game that's going to come down to either of the defenses making a play in a crucial moment, giving one of their offense one of the other offense is either a great spot at field position or a direct score or at least an extra possession. Certainly, turnovers. It doesn't matter how good your football team is. If you go in and turn it over a bunch of times, you're not going to win the game. So those are always the unpredictable stat line of a game. But yeah, this is a great of a great Buffalo offense against an elite Denver defense and to playmaking on the other side of the ball. A play making defense for Buffalo and a playmaking offense and a young, talented quarterback on their side, so it's they match up really well, and that's not always a good thing.

Bill's finished second in the league in takeaways with thirty two. Denver had twenty five, not far off the pace. The only big difference for them only eight giveaways for Buffalo nineteen for the Broncos, So the Bills finished plus twenty four. Broncos finish plus six, which in most seasons would be considered a pretty good season plus six in the turnover margin, but it just looks anemic next to the Bills league leading plus twenty four and as we see many times, especially in the playoffs, turnovers can be the difference in a game, and at least in that part of the equation, you would side with Buffalo as having the advantage because they've been doing it front to back all season long. Gotta take a break here, more of your phone calls when we return here on a Tuesday edition of One Bill's Live Stay with us. Eating Up and Cooling Down is presented by t Mark, Hvac and Plumbing. Call in the home team Trust Team Ark, You're Plumbing, Hvac and Electric Expert, an official partner of the Buffalo Bills. Heating up is Buffalo's red zone touchdown efficiency, even with backups. Last week, Buffalo goes two for two in the red zone and right now they are second in the league in red zone touchdown efficiency, scoring touchdowns almost seventy one percent of the time they crack their opponent's twenty yard line. They are a wagon down there.

Yeah, they're tough, and I think it's their ability and desire and willingness to run the ball down there that gives them more space to make plays than other teams. And you know their ability to move the football down there on the ground because defenses you got to bear up. You can't just let them push you into the end zone. So they can kind of bear up and oversell to do that, and it gives you some space in the back end.

It was interesting to see James Cook last week when early in the game they ran a pitch play to him to try to get to the end zone and the Patriots sniffed it out from the jump got penetration. James Cook looks to the sideline and he's gesturing straight ahead, like, give me a downhill run call, right, what are you doing?

Yeah?

He was hot, Yeah, and it's not happy when he got the other when he got his rushing touchdown to tie the record downhill off the left guard.

So yeah, they got the message.

Yeah, cooling down Buffalo's return game. Brandon Codrington, according to coach McDermott yesterday, suffered a hamstring injury in last Sunday's game. No status given as to how severe the hamstring injury is. We'll probably find out more tomorrow. But they have really had no one else handle returns all season long, with the exception of Ray Davis and Tie Johnson on kickoffs. I would imagine they would be okay there, but on punt return that's a whole different animal, as Steve can tell you, and his availability is at least right now up in the air for Sunday.

Yeah, there's no worse job in football than being the punt returner because everybody could be playing like Gangbusters and you could mess it all up by muffing a punt or making the wrong decision. That's and that's what that I've said a million times. If you're back there returning kicks, you've got some athleticism, you've got your good with the ball in your hands, you're fast, you're shifty, or all of that stuff. The difference isn't your physicality the way you run the ball, it's your decision making. How smart can you run it when you're supposed to run it? Can you catch it every single time you want to catch it? Can you make the right decision on when to let it go, when to bat down it? To give guys a signal to get away from the whole thing, you've got to be a guy that makes great decisions and executes extremely well. It's it's not easy to do because you don't have the view all of us do When you're up there, you don't know exactly how far those guys are away. You got to keep your eyes down, then up, find the ball, find it, catch it, look where they argue, But one last check?

Can I run it? Can I not make that decision in a split second?

Uh?

You need a guy back there who really knows what he's doing.

Yeah, And there hasn't been anybody else all season long. So that is heating up and cooling down presented by t Mark Hvac and Plumbing. Got to get back to the phones at eight oh three, oh five fifty one eight eight eight five point fifty two, five point fifty. As the playoffs approach, are you more nervous or excited about the Bills prospects? We go to Tom on the West Side. What do you got first time you're on One Bill's Live.

Yeah, Buddy's Hey. I love the prospects of the Bills this season. I'm very excited about it. But I get a lot of angst because I think we're gonna have to play Baltimore again.

Now.

I know Baltimore is coming to Buffalo this time, but I would much prefer to have the Chargers come. But the only way that's going to happen is if the Chargers beat Houston and Seattle's got to beat Baltimore. And I got a question about the half yard to the goal line. If a penalty, if a personal foul is committed at the thirty, does it it'll go to the fifteen? Right?

Yeah?

What if it happens in the twenty nine? Does it go to the fourteen and a half yard line?

Yeah? It goes half nast distance.

Yeah.

So they're taking away almost a third of the field there, just on penalties. I don't think that's right. I think if there's enough yard it's there to give them the fifteen yard personal foul, there should be a fifteen yard personal foul. Talk about it?

Yeah, all right, okay, talk about it.

Uh yeah, that's you're gonna go down a rabbit hole of unintended consequences. But they don't want to do that. I agree that takes away a third of the field. I think I get what you're saying, but yeah, that's just they don't want to give a majority of the field left for the offense to get. They don't want to give them a vast majority of it. And what are you gonna do if you get a fifteen yard penalty on the ten yard line, give them a touchdown, then what you know, what are you gonna do? Give every every penalty that's over that line, you give him to them on the one yard line. I mean you could try. I guess that, but I don't know w the big scheme of things, that that changes things all that much in the big scheme, because you got it, it happens to you as well going in the other way. I don't know that it makes a difference. As long as you do it the same both ways. Who cares. But that's your problem. You get a fifteen yard penalty on the ten yard line, is that a touchdown? Then you got to decide what you're gonna do. Then every single red zone penalty for the defense is catastrophic. And they didn't want that. I don't think they want that.

Yeah, let's go out to Wyoming and talk to Dave. What's up, Dave?

How's it going? Boys?

Going?

Hey?

First, I just want to say welcome to Wyoming. I got so tired of seeing John Away jerseys and then Peyton Manning jerseys, and now what I'm seeing out here boys, Josh Allen jerseys, gotta love it. So Wyoming loves the Bills. Everywhere I go. I used to hear, Hey, what's your team, I'm Bill's fan. They say I'm sorry. Now they say let's go Bills. So yeah, right on, all right, So well that's the first thing, Thank you very much. Second thing, coaching going into the playoffs. Everything's a reset now, boys, everything starts over. Every team made it, So this is going to come down to coaching. We know the Bills can execute from both sides of the ball. The big thing that word that that's going to go into play here, I think is you cannot for whoever the Bill's play from here on out, they can't go in expecting to quote outscore the Bills. The Bills are scoring machine. We're hanging thirty, we're hanging forty. Just about every team that we have over the last half of the season, everything is firing. They cannot go in there and look to outscore the Bills. Defense from here on out is going to play the biggest role in all of the games, and that's going to go on throughout the playoffs and into the super Bowl. That's my take. Certainly, love to hear what you guys have to say.

About it all right, thanks Dave, appreciate the call. Glad things they're looking up in Wyoming. Yeah, I mean they're calling card all year has been. You know, they're a touchdown machine. The Bills offense. They just are second in the league in points, scoring just under thirty one a game. I think over the last seven games they've scored almost thirty eight a game. Points have not been a problem. Now they have gone against some pretty formidable defenses through the course of the season, Chiefs among them, scored thirty against them, So they've proven they can score even against the really good defensive units. I think they'll be able to score on this Denver unit. Now, Denver can be stingy, as we know, but this is where you've got to put your faith first in your coordinator and then second in your trigger man, and the Bills have probably the best trigger man in the business. And then you're passing targets have to win. As for the defense, Steve like, yeah, I'm just glad they're healthy. Now that's the primary thing for me, because I think they can be an above average defense when healthy. And they are healthy, and I think it starts with that defensive line. I think the defensive line really has to have a month. They really got to put together their best month of the season in terms of impacting opposing quarterbacks. We've seen it at times, but week over week over week, we have not seen it. And that front four, you know, the collection of eight guys, whatever it is, they've got to really bring it for the next month here and turn it up and be a consistent pass rushing force.

Yeah.

I think this defense, if they play as well as they can win their health, If they're healthy in which it looks like they're going to be, and they play their best, they're plenty good enough, plenty good enough. Now this Denver team, their defense has got to show up, and it's got to show up big against a really, really good offense that has been enough for them to win you know, ten games in the regular season. Well, you know they but they got to do it again against probably as good offense as they've faced. And now they let's face it, they went into Kansas City early in the year and put it to Kansas City. Kansas City only scored what was it, let's see here, Kansas City scored four sixteen points on them in Kansas City. So this defense is for real. You know, you never know how that goes. Because then the Buccaneers scored thirty on them, the Raiders scored twenty seven, the Niners scored twenty eight, Carolina scored thirty on them. So they've and Pittsburgh scored twenty scored. Well, that's not not true to Cincinnati scored on them. So they've got and they've given up some points twenty seven to the Panthers in fact, not thirty.

All of that. So it's here, I'm in the wrong.

Yeah, yeah, So the Broncos defense has given up some some points, you know, to teams like the Browns and the Ravens like that.

But they're hard to score on. But I don't know that they've played too many offenses.

Cincinnati has to this one. That's right, when they score thirty.

Three on thirty on them, Yeah, scored thirty.

Let's go to Mark in Rochester next. What's up Mark?

Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. Sure, three things, just really quick. Number one is Codrington When when I watch him returned punts, it's like he takes off like a rocket, but if the hole is not there, it's like he comes to almost a complete stop looking for a hole and then tries to restart it up again and by his time it's over. That's the only problem I have with him. I think with Ty Johnson back there, I think you'd be okay if he if he's got a return fund, I think it'll be okay as far as where I'm at, as far as the playoffs go, I'm gonna steal a line from mister Tasker.

Let's go.

Yeah, okay, that's number two.

Number three, Chris.

I want to thank you personally, and maybe I should think one Bill's live personally. I go to a local liquor store to get my wife for wine and they have trivia questions. I was the only one to get the trivia question right, and because I was the only one to get it right that day, they gave me a discount on my purchase. The trivia question was what is the official apple of the Buffalo Bills?

Haha.

I look at that.

I thank you for that, sir.

I have a good day and go builds ah. You know, we are a public service here at the end of the day in that case us in Snapdragon anyway, But look at that. Getting the discount on his liquor purchase because he knew snapdrag, the you go wow, you can't beat that. You know, rely on that to make it your day. How about that is great? Well, yeah, we're happy to be here for rats. We have to take a break. We'll see if we have time to squeeze in a phone call when we return. Here on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, back here on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker, And as you know, this is recruiting season, as there are five teams without head coaches and they need to put staffs together. And Joe Brady has already been requested from interviews by the Saints, the Bears, the Jets, and the Jaguars. Four of the five head coach openings he has been requested for. And then you have people on national shows like ESPN's NFL Live, Marcus Spears, Dan Orlovsky, Laura Rutledge, and Marcus Spears was saying he was extolling the virtues of one Joe Brady saying he should be on everybody's head coaching list. So he tweets that out, and the responses from Bills fans trying to throw people off. The scent are hilarious, right.

Yeah, first thing out of the box, he said.

Now, I pushed my grandma down the stairs and he said depressed, Buffalo said he. I heard he doesn't return his shopping cart after shopping. I heard he also throws eggs at school bus drivers. He for he forwards chain emails.

Uh.

He agreed to dog sit for my family for a week and he never showed up.

He's unreliable. He kidnapped my brother. I heard he tackled someone's uncle. Uh, you know the last one.

Uh.

I wanted a picture with him once and he threw my phone against the wall and shattered my phone and my heart.

He kicked a puppy. All this stuff.

I want to know if he say, like, yeah, they're jokingly, you know, not wanting Joe Brady to take a head coaching job anywhere because of the success this offense has had under him.

They want him to stay here and keep doing what he's doing.

Jumping on Marcus Spears tweet about you know how valuable commodity he might be.

That's pretty funny. Yeah. Does he pay for dinner bills with pennies? That's what I want to know. That would be another thing. Yeah, I mean, isn't it an amazing the transformation and the trajectory that some of these coaches get on if I mean it happens. Liam Cohen is another example, first year offensive coordinator in Tampa Bay. They get to the playoffs and Baker Mayfield's got forty one touchdown passes this season. He's getting He's on the list for the Jaguars. I mean young young guys. I mean Joe Brady's thirty six years old. Like, yeah, I mean young young guys.

If they get the right guy and they want him as young as they can get him, so you can have him for fifteen years and have him Mike Tomlin type career or you know, John Harbaugh type career.

That's it for us today. Bill's back on the practice field tomorrow, so we'll have practice updates for you, and we'll have the Hall of Famer in here too, Thurman Thomas. We'll see you tomorrow at one