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Hey everyone, Welcome back to on Purpose, the place you come to to become happier, healthier, and more healed. I appreciate your ears, I appreciate your eyes. I'm so grateful that you're here right now, and I thank you for investing in yourself. You know that this platform is all about allowing the humans to be human, to give them a space to share their heart, share their mind, and share what's really happening behind the scenes. I think it's so easy in the climate we live in to get lost in clickbait and articles and views, and often that stops us from actually getting to understand someone and see someone for who they are. And today's guest is someone that I've been wanting on the show for years. So I'm extremely happy and extremely present, even more than ever because this has been an opportunity I've been looking forward to. Today, I'm talking to the one and only Michael B. Jordan, a director, actor, producer who's recognized as an industry leader invested in bringing social change to Hollywood through his art and philanthropy. Making his feature film directorial debut, Michael B. Jordan recently reprised the role of a Donnis Creed in Creed three. I'm a big Rocky fan, so when Creed drop, you knew I had to see it, which had the biggest opening weekend for a Creed film and biggest domestic opening for a sports movie ever ever of all time. I just going to clarify that. Up next, Michael B. Jordan is set to start in Ryan Coogler's next feature film for Warner Brothers, and Michael B. Jordan also was named one of Times one hundred most Influential People of twenty twenty three, he's been recognized as People's twenty twenty Sexiest man Alive.

Hey everyone, Welcome back to on Purpose, the place you come to to become happier, healthier, and more healed. I appreciate your ears, I appreciate your eyes. I'm so grateful that you're here right now, and I thank you for investing in yourself. You know that this platform is all about allowing the humans to be human, to give them a space to share their heart, share their mind, and share what's really happening behind the scenes. I think it's so easy in the climate we live in to get lost in clickbait and articles and views, and often that stops us from actually getting to understand someone and see someone for who they are. And today's guest is someone that I've been wanting on the show for years. So I'm extremely happy and extremely present, even more than ever because this has been an opportunity I've been looking forward to. Today, I'm talking to the one and only Michael B. Jordan, a director, actor, producer who's recognized as an industry leader invested in bringing social change to Hollywood through his art and philanthropy. Making his feature film directorial debut, Michael B. Jordan recently reprised the role of a Donnis Creed in Creed three. I'm a big Rocky fan, so when Creed drop, you knew I had to see it, which had the biggest opening weekend for a Creed film and biggest domestic opening for a sports movie ever ever of all time. I just going to clarify that. Up next, Michael B. Jordan is set to start in Ryan Coogler's next feature film for Warner Brothers, and Michael B. Jordan also was named one of Times one hundred most Influential People of twenty twenty three, he's been recognized as People's twenty twenty Sexiest man Alive.

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Jordan.

Jordan.

Mike, it's great to have you.

Mike, it's great to have you.

Very appreciate it, Man, that introduction is great. I just carry you around with me everywhere I go and just introduce me places. But no, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me man.

Very appreciate it, Man, that introduction is great. I just carry you around with me everywhere I go and just introduce me places. But no, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me man.

Well, I wanted to add also, like in the few moments we've spent together, even just walking in, you know, if I can add to that intro, you know, extremely humble, gracious and like thoughtful, like it's it's almost a nice meeting that and I and I love that this platform is a space that can come out and we were just talking about that. You were saying that you know, you've almost been looking for a space where you can share that because.

Well, I wanted to add also, like in the few moments we've spent together, even just walking in, you know, if I can add to that intro, you know, extremely humble, gracious and like thoughtful, like it's it's almost a nice meeting that and I and I love that this platform is a space that can come out and we were just talking about that. You were saying that you know, you've almost been looking for a space where you can share that because.

You don't do a lot of press.

You don't do a lot of press.

I don't.

I don't.

I don't think.

I don't think.

You know, it's seasons for it, you know, obviously, you know when you have a project coming out or something you need to promote. You know, there's it's a part of that, that news cycle. But for me personally, I try to you know, kind of say to myself a little bit and and very cautious of how you want people to get to know you, you know, when you have opportunities to speak and share things about yourself and not kind of you know, be a part of sometimes other people's agenda.

You know, it's seasons for it, you know, obviously, you know when you have a project coming out or something you need to promote. You know, there's it's a part of that, that news cycle. But for me personally, I try to you know, kind of say to myself a little bit and and very cautious of how you want people to get to know you, you know, when you have opportunities to speak and share things about yourself and not kind of you know, be a part of sometimes other people's agenda.

You know.

You know.

So so that's uh.

So so that's uh.

But but been a big, big fan of yours for for a long time and the work that you've done and you are currently doing, and it felt like this was a good good time to you know, to get out and talk and and uh, you know, share some things about me. I guess you know, I've a it's been it's been a journey. You know, it's been it's been a journey. So uh, you know, this is a nice little check in point.

But but been a big, big fan of yours for for a long time and the work that you've done and you are currently doing, and it felt like this was a good good time to you know, to get out and talk and and uh, you know, share some things about me. I guess you know, I've a it's been it's been a journey. You know, it's been it's been a journey. So uh, you know, this is a nice little check in point.

I think, yeah, I love that well, I appreciate the trust and I love that checking point because it must be fascinating to look back at something and then think about where you were in life, what was going on in your mind. So I wanted to start with there was this one thing you said in an interview, and we were talking about this earlier, this idea of written versus being able to explain, and there was this great point you made that I think people wouldn't recognize with the amount of success you've had, the hits you've had. You know, I think people want to know about you and learn about you. But you said, when you come from where I come from and everybody doesn't get those breaks that luck, you start to question why am I successful in life? Why did I go this way and everybody went that way? And I just thought that that was, you know, again extremely humble and also representative of where you grew up, how you came up, Like which way did everyone go and where did that luck begin for you?

I think, yeah, I love that well, I appreciate the trust and I love that checking point because it must be fascinating to look back at something and then think about where you were in life, what was going on in your mind. So I wanted to start with there was this one thing you said in an interview, and we were talking about this earlier, this idea of written versus being able to explain, and there was this great point you made that I think people wouldn't recognize with the amount of success you've had, the hits you've had. You know, I think people want to know about you and learn about you. But you said, when you come from where I come from and everybody doesn't get those breaks that luck, you start to question why am I successful in life? Why did I go this way and everybody went that way? And I just thought that that was, you know, again extremely humble and also representative of where you grew up, how you came up, Like which way did everyone go and where did that luck begin for you?

You know, I think coming up in North New Jersey, coming up in that environment, and you know, having you know, when you're younger, you know you're living life. You know you're taking it a day at a time. You know you're going a boat, well practice, you're going to school, you know you're going to church, you know you're you're Yeah. For me, it was you know, taking a lot of trips to New York City, going on auditions at a really really young age and just figuring out what what what that is? Having having parents pretty aware, you know, and and very present in my life, you know, growing up. Uh, you know, that was that was rare amongst my family, amongst my friend group, you know, having both parents that was there and very present and aware of my environment as well. You know what what uh, you know, being told to look out for these things and uh make good choices, to be disciplined, to be focused on things, you know, get your school, you know, all the the you know, the the positives and in growing up in an environment like that, and you know, hats off to my parents and to uh to sacrifice so much to make sure their kids, you know, were safe and grew up and you know, and you know, grew up in an environment ain't easy making ends meet, you know, grew up very poor, but didn't.

You know, I think coming up in North New Jersey, coming up in that environment, and you know, having you know, when you're younger, you know you're living life. You know you're taking it a day at a time. You know you're going a boat, well practice, you're going to school, you know you're going to church, you know you're you're Yeah. For me, it was you know, taking a lot of trips to New York City, going on auditions at a really really young age and just figuring out what what what that is? Having having parents pretty aware, you know, and and very present in my life, you know, growing up. Uh, you know, that was that was rare amongst my family, amongst my friend group, you know, having both parents that was there and very present and aware of my environment as well. You know what what uh, you know, being told to look out for these things and uh make good choices, to be disciplined, to be focused on things, you know, get your school, you know, all the the you know, the the positives and in growing up in an environment like that, and you know, hats off to my parents and to uh to sacrifice so much to make sure their kids, you know, were safe and grew up and you know, and you know, grew up in an environment ain't easy making ends meet, you know, grew up very poor, but didn't.

Feel like it. You know what I'm saying. It was very you know, I think they did a good job at hiding those things. You know. I think as we get older, we look back.

Feel like it. You know what I'm saying. It was very you know, I think they did a good job at hiding those things. You know. I think as we get older, we look back.

It was like, oh man, we went through that or that's why we slept in the kitchen at one time with the oven open, or oh, that's when we stayed at Grandma's house for like, you know, a couple of weeks when you you know, so you get that reflection of how we kind of grew up. And and I think for me, you know, always having a you know, a bigger purpose, I think, or just you know, just that optimism.

It was like, oh man, we went through that or that's why we slept in the kitchen at one time with the oven open, or oh, that's when we stayed at Grandma's house for like, you know, a couple of weeks when you you know, so you get that reflection of how we kind of grew up. And and I think for me, you know, always having a you know, a bigger purpose, I think, or just you know, just that optimism.

You know that that I was a big dreamer as.

You know that that I was a big dreamer as.

A kid, and I think, you know, you start to not just to focus on the just the work of it all. But since I was working such a young age, that's the thing that I can kind of point to of, you know, booking auditions and getting this job and traveling to this place and experiencing these things and coming back home with these experiences and not having a lot of people who could relate or could you know, I could soundboard off of. And I think in feeling like that, you don't want to alienate those people, you know, And I think, and this is all I guess, in hindsight, you don't share these stories as much. You know, maybe you should because you don't want somebody to feel like inadequate or you know, not being able to have that experience that you might have had. And I think, you know, that's snowballs. As you get older and from stepping stone to stepping stone, as as I continue to be successful at at at a young age, you start to question why am I being so successful? And the people that look just like me, that are right next to me and these everyday things aren't necessarily doing that or not choosing to you know, just didn't have those options that were laid out to them.

A kid, and I think, you know, you start to not just to focus on the just the work of it all. But since I was working such a young age, that's the thing that I can kind of point to of, you know, booking auditions and getting this job and traveling to this place and experiencing these things and coming back home with these experiences and not having a lot of people who could relate or could you know, I could soundboard off of. And I think in feeling like that, you don't want to alienate those people, you know, And I think, and this is all I guess, in hindsight, you don't share these stories as much. You know, maybe you should because you don't want somebody to feel like inadequate or you know, not being able to have that experience that you might have had. And I think, you know, that's snowballs. As you get older and from stepping stone to stepping stone, as as I continue to be successful at at at a young age, you start to question why am I being so successful? And the people that look just like me, that are right next to me and these everyday things aren't necessarily doing that or not choosing to you know, just didn't have those options that were laid out to them.

Uh.

Uh.

And I think it you start to doubt yourself for whatever reason, or feel guilty for.

And I think it you start to doubt yourself for whatever reason, or feel guilty for.

The things that you may or may not have, even.

The things that you may or may not have, even.

Though you know, our parents were people of service, you know, block parties or you know, cooking church dinners or.

Though you know, our parents were people of service, you know, block parties or you know, cooking church dinners or.

You know whenever.

You know whenever.

You know, my house was the house that everybody came to at some point, whether we were going to get pizza that night, or Dad was going to take everybody camping or going to these things like it was that was kind of my house, within within my neighborhood and community. And and so I think for me being a person of service kind of because you know, it's kind of comes from how I was raised. And and those are the examples that I knew growing up. I always felt lucky too. As you become more successful and you you see less people look like you that are being successful in this in this realm, and you end up being the one guy that looks like me that successful or the couple guys that are the usual suspects that you see in the audition room or in things of that nature. You know, you start to sometimes question.

You know, my house was the house that everybody came to at some point, whether we were going to get pizza that night, or Dad was going to take everybody camping or going to these things like it was that was kind of my house, within within my neighborhood and community. And and so I think for me being a person of service kind of because you know, it's kind of comes from how I was raised. And and those are the examples that I knew growing up. I always felt lucky too. As you become more successful and you you see less people look like you that are being successful in this in this realm, and you end up being the one guy that looks like me that successful or the couple guys that are the usual suspects that you see in the audition room or in things of that nature. You know, you start to sometimes question.

Why, why why are you now? I can?

Why, why why are you now? I can?

I feel as though it was my It was my path, you know, it was my purpose and spirituality and growing up in a in a household that was very focused on you know, you know, church and spiritual and meditation and and and just being.

I feel as though it was my It was my path, you know, it was my purpose and spirituality and growing up in a in a household that was very focused on you know, you know, church and spiritual and meditation and and and just being.

Aware of the world that we live in.

Aware of the world that we live in.

You know, I felt I was destined for for something, not knowing what that was, but just something.

You know, I felt I was destined for for something, not knowing what that was, but just something.

Wow.

Wow.

Yeah, I mean when I'm when I'm hearing that, it sounds like I love what you said. You were like you know, they hit we were poor and we didn't even see that. But this idea of like you sound So when I when I see you talk about your family, and for those of you're watching, you can see it on Mike's face. But there's so much joy and there's bliss and there's like a there's like a happiness when you're looking back on that time, Like I can see it's a positive experience because of how you feel you've been loved and cared for and supported, even though the resources may not have been there or the access or opportunities. And I was wondering when I was listening to you, like, is there a memory or an experience from your childhood that you think defines who you are today? Like, was there a memory or a story that you have in your mind of an experience you went through that you think brings out maybe that service element or brings out that purposeful element.

Yeah, I mean when I'm when I'm hearing that, it sounds like I love what you said. You were like you know, they hit we were poor and we didn't even see that. But this idea of like you sound So when I when I see you talk about your family, and for those of you're watching, you can see it on Mike's face. But there's so much joy and there's bliss and there's like a there's like a happiness when you're looking back on that time, Like I can see it's a positive experience because of how you feel you've been loved and cared for and supported, even though the resources may not have been there or the access or opportunities. And I was wondering when I was listening to you, like, is there a memory or an experience from your childhood that you think defines who you are today? Like, was there a memory or a story that you have in your mind of an experience you went through that you think brings out maybe that service element or brings out that purposeful element.

And I think there's this blissedness, this this appreciation for how I grew up comes in hindsight, you know, like you know the first time you have a moment where you're like pick up the phone, you know, one morning you just call your mom and be like thank you.

And I think there's this blissedness, this this appreciation for how I grew up comes in hindsight, you know, like you know the first time you have a moment where you're like pick up the phone, you know, one morning you just call your mom and be like thank you.

I get it, and I'm sorry.

I get it, and I'm sorry.

I'm sorry for for being that kid at some point, and I'm so sorry for not understanding.

I'm sorry for for being that kid at some point, and I'm so sorry for not understanding.

I totally get what you guys are going through.

I totally get what you guys are going through.

Sheesh. I love you guys.

Sheesh. I love you guys.

You know, like you have those moments when you get older, you know that you just can't really have that perspective when you're When you were a kid, and I think, you know, I was very mischievous, you know as well. And I think there were moments when my dad disciplined me, you know, for for for whatever the you know, whatever I did at that time, and then my mom would have a conversation around the why and then being also forced or pushed and nudged into a space where you had to acknowledge your siblings also, you know, in that situation and the importance of family and what that means. You know, my parents have different upbringings, you know what I'm saying from you know, uh, and different families structures growing up, but one thing they've always provided us with is just a sense of like family over everything, you know, and how important that is, and that just kind of kept the groundedness to me throughout. So I think just the experiences of just family.

You know, like you have those moments when you get older, you know that you just can't really have that perspective when you're When you were a kid, and I think, you know, I was very mischievous, you know as well. And I think there were moments when my dad disciplined me, you know, for for for whatever the you know, whatever I did at that time, and then my mom would have a conversation around the why and then being also forced or pushed and nudged into a space where you had to acknowledge your siblings also, you know, in that situation and the importance of family and what that means. You know, my parents have different upbringings, you know what I'm saying from you know, uh, and different families structures growing up, but one thing they've always provided us with is just a sense of like family over everything, you know, and how important that is, and that just kind of kept the groundedness to me throughout. So I think just the experiences of just family.

I like your point of behind sight.

I like your point of behind sight.

I've definitely made that call to my mom for sure, Like, yeah, I made that call to my mom when we were on the same age. So for me, it's like I've made that call and I think I made it probably like twenty five. It was probably around them when I finally made that call, And not that I did love my mom before that, of course I did, but it was like that honest understanding of just how hard it was to do what she did because she was raising two kids, she was dropping us to school, picking us up. She was the breadwinner of the family. She made us breakfast, lunch, and dinner fresh every day. And you don't recognize that as a kid. You don't realize the sacrifice, the hustle and always making you feel loved on top of doing all of that. It's hard work. You've talked to you said that now you feel you've got to a place that it's your path. What was that switch for you that went from like I don't deserve this God, like I feel out of place, I'm lucky, to being like, no, actually, now I see it as this was meant to be my path because I think a lot of people and a lot of our listeners will be there, like a lot of people are like they're making moves and maybe their first person in their family to go to college, or maybe they're the first person who started up a business as an entrepreneur, or maybe one of our listeners is trying to break generational trauma and they're the first person to spot it. Yes, but then they all live in that space like can I do this? Like am I the one to do this? And so what was it that made that switch from like I'm not sure I'm the guy, but oh it is my path.

I've definitely made that call to my mom for sure, Like, yeah, I made that call to my mom when we were on the same age. So for me, it's like I've made that call and I think I made it probably like twenty five. It was probably around them when I finally made that call, And not that I did love my mom before that, of course I did, but it was like that honest understanding of just how hard it was to do what she did because she was raising two kids, she was dropping us to school, picking us up. She was the breadwinner of the family. She made us breakfast, lunch, and dinner fresh every day. And you don't recognize that as a kid. You don't realize the sacrifice, the hustle and always making you feel loved on top of doing all of that. It's hard work. You've talked to you said that now you feel you've got to a place that it's your path. What was that switch for you that went from like I don't deserve this God, like I feel out of place, I'm lucky, to being like, no, actually, now I see it as this was meant to be my path because I think a lot of people and a lot of our listeners will be there, like a lot of people are like they're making moves and maybe their first person in their family to go to college, or maybe they're the first person who started up a business as an entrepreneur, or maybe one of our listeners is trying to break generational trauma and they're the first person to spot it. Yes, but then they all live in that space like can I do this? Like am I the one to do this? And so what was it that made that switch from like I'm not sure I'm the guy, but oh it is my path.

It's the sum of all things leading up into that point. I think it's all the doubt. It's the impostor syndrome. It's the blessings that you can't really accept fully. And you listen to other people's who are successful, or you see examples that you kind of feel connected to, like man, that that kind of feels like me, or what he just said or what she just said. I kind of I resonate with that, you know, I feel like that Sometimes you know other people who are looking at you saying, no, Mike, this is what you have, this is what you can be, this.

It's the sum of all things leading up into that point. I think it's all the doubt. It's the impostor syndrome. It's the blessings that you can't really accept fully. And you listen to other people's who are successful, or you see examples that you kind of feel connected to, like man, that that kind of feels like me, or what he just said or what she just said. I kind of I resonate with that, you know, I feel like that Sometimes you know other people who are looking at you saying, no, Mike, this is what you have, this is what you can be, this.

Is what you are. Nah, nah, I can't know that. That's too good.

Is what you are. Nah, nah, I can't know that. That's too good.

No, that ain't me.

No, that ain't me.

You know, your own presence in a situation where you have to step back and look at yourself.

You know, your own presence in a situation where you have to step back and look at yourself.

And be like, am I this guy right now? Like, oh man, there's a room.

And be like, am I this guy right now? Like, oh man, there's a room.

Full of people who showed up because it's something I'm doing and they're in service or in support of my idea, my thing.

Full of people who showed up because it's something I'm doing and they're in service or in support of my idea, my thing.

Okay, that looks and feels like I'm the guy.

Okay, that looks and feels like I'm the guy.

Okay, you're in I'm in the industry where you know, you're the success of your work and your art has been you know, dictated and validated by other people's opinions, and whether those opinions are factual or projected on you from their own individual perspective. I think it's it was a combination of all those things. And I've always been curious and walked towards the how do I make myself better? What are the things that I need, the tools that I need in order to improve myself the way I think, the way how do I maximize myself? You know, so from I think getting a you know, an executive coach, you know who talks to executives all day and and and you know how to create healthy conversations, the right type of conversations that have as you're building a team around you, because.

Okay, you're in I'm in the industry where you know, you're the success of your work and your art has been you know, dictated and validated by other people's opinions, and whether those opinions are factual or projected on you from their own individual perspective. I think it's it was a combination of all those things. And I've always been curious and walked towards the how do I make myself better? What are the things that I need, the tools that I need in order to improve myself the way I think, the way how do I maximize myself? You know, so from I think getting a you know, an executive coach, you know who talks to executives all day and and and you know how to create healthy conversations, the right type of conversations that have as you're building a team around you, because.

You know, as you know, it's not just us, you know, we have an.

You know, as you know, it's not just us, you know, we have an.

Entire team of people that surround us that help us achieve our dreams and get the big idea done. A spiritual advisor, a spiritual coach that I have who you know helps me, uh do my energy work, my spiritual work, and and and and help sift through the noise and and and and find those things. And I think it wasn't until I had, you know, roles that challenged my spirit and myself in a real way that that that that and the weight and where the attention was so loud that it was you know, it was deafening, and it was and I couldn't you know, see clearly. And you know these champagne problems, you know what I'm saying. You know, you know that like you know, we're blessed, so but the weight is so heavy, you know, and people sometimes think and they see what we have or what you know, or what we're you know, what we're doing, and it's like, oh, just be grateful, you know, or just you know, what are you complaining about?

Entire team of people that surround us that help us achieve our dreams and get the big idea done. A spiritual advisor, a spiritual coach that I have who you know helps me, uh do my energy work, my spiritual work, and and and and help sift through the noise and and and and find those things. And I think it wasn't until I had, you know, roles that challenged my spirit and myself in a real way that that that that and the weight and where the attention was so loud that it was you know, it was deafening, and it was and I couldn't you know, see clearly. And you know these champagne problems, you know what I'm saying. You know, you know that like you know, we're blessed, so but the weight is so heavy, you know, and people sometimes think and they see what we have or what you know, or what we're you know, what we're doing, and it's like, oh, just be grateful, you know, or just you know, what are you complaining about?

You know?

You know?

And and you know most people wouldn't be to walk, you know, a block in our shoes, you know, with with this stuff. And I think it was and you have moments where you you resent things and you're angry at you know, the feelings that you accumulate for not being clear or or not understanding you know why this. There's a lot of wise and you're not going to get all the answers, but you want to, you know, be able to get to a place where you're you're clear.

And and you know most people wouldn't be to walk, you know, a block in our shoes, you know, with with this stuff. And I think it was and you have moments where you you resent things and you're angry at you know, the feelings that you accumulate for not being clear or or not understanding you know why this. There's a lot of wise and you're not going to get all the answers, but you want to, you know, be able to get to a place where you're you're clear.

So to answer a question, when did I decide? When did I like, you know, when did I feel like that?

So to answer a question, when did I decide? When did I like, you know, when did I feel like that?

Maybe two years ago, maybe a year ago. You look at where your family has come from, and shit, look at your bloodline. You know you look you look at you know your community. You're like, man, there's a cycle there from generation to generation that happens when you get to yourself.

Maybe two years ago, maybe a year ago. You look at where your family has come from, and shit, look at your bloodline. You know you look you look at you know your community. You're like, man, there's a cycle there from generation to generation that happens when you get to yourself.

And you're like, man, can I stop this?

And you're like, man, can I stop this?

Can I change this?

Can I change this?

I could do this.

I could do this.

Once you it's like once you, once you know better, you got to almost do better. Once you see it, you can't unsee it. And I refuse to ignore it. I refuse to see it an opportunity that I had to change things and act like it didn't exist. And I think that was the thing for me that I was like, nah, I gotta, I gotta If that's my purpose, if that's my path is to just see it and I can see the pieces and that if I can just continue to do this, or if I stay down the pathway on that and I might be able to make a big difference in my nephew's life or my my future children's, my future grandchildren's life. I gotta do that because there's been so many people that might that didn't that that it wasn't the perfect storm for them to have that opportunity.

Once you it's like once you, once you know better, you got to almost do better. Once you see it, you can't unsee it. And I refuse to ignore it. I refuse to see it an opportunity that I had to change things and act like it didn't exist. And I think that was the thing for me that I was like, nah, I gotta, I gotta If that's my purpose, if that's my path is to just see it and I can see the pieces and that if I can just continue to do this, or if I stay down the pathway on that and I might be able to make a big difference in my nephew's life or my my future children's, my future grandchildren's life. I gotta do that because there's been so many people that might that didn't that that it wasn't the perfect storm for them to have that opportunity.

It wasn't the right time in the world.

It wasn't the right time in the world.

Technology wasn't there, the resources, the right social conversations are being had for for us to have these platforms and speak and be successful the.

Technology wasn't there, the resources, the right social conversations are being had for for us to have these platforms and speak and be successful the.

Way we are. You know, you gotta you gotta do it.

Way we are. You know, you gotta you gotta do it.

And I think that was a big part of it, you know, you know, understanding my own mortality, you know, and understanding you know, you know, life isn't you know, isn't a forever thing. And I think that happens when you get older too, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, just turned thirty seven, and it's like, wow, I vividly remember, you know, fifteen, I vividly remember twenty one. I remember vividly remember twenty five, thirty, you know, And I used to look at thirty five thirty seven like like ancient you know, what I'm saying, and I'm like, oh man, we're here, and it's like, you gotta do what you gotta do while you're here and make an impact. You gotta fulfill your You got to fulfill yourself whatever that may be, you know.

And I think that was a big part of it, you know, you know, understanding my own mortality, you know, and understanding you know, you know, life isn't you know, isn't a forever thing. And I think that happens when you get older too, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, just turned thirty seven, and it's like, wow, I vividly remember, you know, fifteen, I vividly remember twenty one. I remember vividly remember twenty five, thirty, you know, And I used to look at thirty five thirty seven like like ancient you know, what I'm saying, and I'm like, oh man, we're here, and it's like, you gotta do what you gotta do while you're here and make an impact. You gotta fulfill your You got to fulfill yourself whatever that may be, you know.

And uh and I think so.

And uh and I think so.

Yeah, So that that moment for me where it was like, Okay, I can do this. I can Maybe a couple of years ago, I think it was like right as I was stepping into directing Creed three and the weight of that and being the captain of the ship the first time being the captain of the ship in the you know, I've made movies before, you know, I've done that. I know what that's like, but I've never ever been the director, you know, the captain of the ship. And I think that responsibility, that pressure that you know, I'm not a dad, you know, but being everybody's looking to you for the answer, for the solve, for the leadership. And I think that really thrust me into a mindset of of leadership that I never quite had the opportunity to do before.

Yeah, So that that moment for me where it was like, Okay, I can do this. I can Maybe a couple of years ago, I think it was like right as I was stepping into directing Creed three and the weight of that and being the captain of the ship the first time being the captain of the ship in the you know, I've made movies before, you know, I've done that. I know what that's like, but I've never ever been the director, you know, the captain of the ship. And I think that responsibility, that pressure that you know, I'm not a dad, you know, but being everybody's looking to you for the answer, for the solve, for the leadership. And I think that really thrust me into a mindset of of leadership that I never quite had the opportunity to do before.

I mean, there's so much in that great I like it.

I mean, there's so much in that great I like it.

I prefer it that way because I'm connecting all the dots as you're speaking, and there's a I mean, there's so many things I want to unpacked with that. One of the things that really resonated is this idea that you had to challenge yourself, you had to do something out of your comfort zone, in order to even recognize that you could become, that you could be, and that you could develop. And often we're waiting to become before we take on the challenge. But it's the challenge that makes us become that person. And I think we resist even what you said earlier about the opportunities, this idea that if you have opportunity, and there's an Eastern spiritual teaching which talks about if you have opportunities and you don't take them, that's a disservice to humanity because they're opening up to you without your even without your will. Sometimes right like there's some of us and we'll sabotage ourselves because we'll say, oh, well, I.

I prefer it that way because I'm connecting all the dots as you're speaking, and there's a I mean, there's so many things I want to unpacked with that. One of the things that really resonated is this idea that you had to challenge yourself, you had to do something out of your comfort zone, in order to even recognize that you could become, that you could be, and that you could develop. And often we're waiting to become before we take on the challenge. But it's the challenge that makes us become that person. And I think we resist even what you said earlier about the opportunities, this idea that if you have opportunity, and there's an Eastern spiritual teaching which talks about if you have opportunities and you don't take them, that's a disservice to humanity because they're opening up to you without your even without your will. Sometimes right like there's some of us and we'll sabotage ourselves because we'll say, oh, well, I.

Didn't ask for that. I didn't I didn't know that was for me.

Didn't ask for that. I didn't I didn't know that was for me.

And so I love the idea of anyone who's listening or watching what Mike saying, I love the idea of leaning into that opportunity that is opening up for you.

And so I love the idea of anyone who's listening or watching what Mike saying, I love the idea of leaning into that opportunity that is opening up for you.

And even if you.

And even if you.

Don't have the skills and you don't have the talent yet, or you don't have all of the tools and the abilities, it's going to.

Don't have the skills and you don't have the talent yet, or you don't have all of the tools and the abilities, it's going to.

Force you to develop them for sure.

Force you to develop them for sure.

And you talk about the coaching, I want to go back to then and ask you about that, because you want to be better mentally, physically, spiritually. It's it's a big part of who you are. And even the projects you take on which I want to dive into that you said roles that challenge your spirit, Even that idea that you're looking at a role not as oh, what's the next movie to get me the thing, it's like, oh, that's going to challenge my spirit. I wanted to ask what has been your best habit or tool uniquely that you've developed for your body, your mind, and your spirit individually. What have been things that you've done with your coaches in different areas that you think has brought about new epiphanies, opportunities and ideas. What have been those tools and hacks that maybe people could lock into as well.

And you talk about the coaching, I want to go back to then and ask you about that, because you want to be better mentally, physically, spiritually. It's it's a big part of who you are. And even the projects you take on which I want to dive into that you said roles that challenge your spirit, Even that idea that you're looking at a role not as oh, what's the next movie to get me the thing, it's like, oh, that's going to challenge my spirit. I wanted to ask what has been your best habit or tool uniquely that you've developed for your body, your mind, and your spirit individually. What have been things that you've done with your coaches in different areas that you think has brought about new epiphanies, opportunities and ideas. What have been those tools and hacks that maybe people could lock into as well.

I think there's this woman, Ramona Oliver, that have known me in my entire life. You know, she's my spiritual advisor and coach. And you know, I think starting the day, you know, in meditation, you know you're taking a moment to clear yourself and prepare yourself for the day. It's so important to step out of your home with intent and intention. A lot of times it's what are you projecting on a situation to help it manifest instead of negatively thinking about things that can help block your blessings. You know, that's a big thing, you know. So so I think, I think and we all have moments of negativity. That's part of it. You know, it's ying yang. You're never going to fully get rid of that. But to practice those things in the morning, I think was a big help for me.

I think there's this woman, Ramona Oliver, that have known me in my entire life. You know, she's my spiritual advisor and coach. And you know, I think starting the day, you know, in meditation, you know you're taking a moment to clear yourself and prepare yourself for the day. It's so important to step out of your home with intent and intention. A lot of times it's what are you projecting on a situation to help it manifest instead of negatively thinking about things that can help block your blessings. You know, that's a big thing, you know. So so I think, I think and we all have moments of negativity. That's part of it. You know, it's ying yang. You're never going to fully get rid of that. But to practice those things in the morning, I think was a big help for me.

You know, you shoot movies and you're doing things, you're walking out.

You know, you shoot movies and you're doing things, you're walking out.

You know, there's there's there's your stories of people that just can't get a break sometimes and and for whatever reason, it could be from stepping off the curve, twisting the ankle to you know, the parking ticket, to the thing to the oh, I just can't get a break. And there's certain people that carry this cloud, you know, And I think some of that can be contributed to the thought process and the thinking and.

You know, there's there's there's your stories of people that just can't get a break sometimes and and for whatever reason, it could be from stepping off the curve, twisting the ankle to you know, the parking ticket, to the thing to the oh, I just can't get a break. And there's certain people that carry this cloud, you know, And I think some of that can be contributed to the thought process and the thinking and.

The energy that you're putting into these things. And and it's sometimes easier said than done.

The energy that you're putting into these things. And and it's sometimes easier said than done.

But to stop up and to reframe and to clear yourself into you know, no, I'm walking in this light today, and see how much of a difference that can make. And more on the structurally side, this guy Drew Coogler, who no relation to Ryan Coogler, who was a uh, you know, executive coach and and you know, as my ambitions grew from a production company to brand marketing consulting companies to you know, just the products and the businesses, you know, the conversations I need to have with the team, you know, and leadership and the everybody's coming from different backgrounds, and how do you speak everybody's love language because everybody You have to speak differently a little bit to everybody so they could receive it the way you meant it, you know. And I think having the quality of conversations is something that was really helpful for me, meaningful conversations and giving people the space to hear me and also hold them accountable to the things that I need to hold them accountable for. I think though the combination of the two allowed me to look at situations and opportunities differently for people to look at me differently, because it's also a troubling thing when you're walking around as talent for a long time.

But to stop up and to reframe and to clear yourself into you know, no, I'm walking in this light today, and see how much of a difference that can make. And more on the structurally side, this guy Drew Coogler, who no relation to Ryan Coogler, who was a uh, you know, executive coach and and you know, as my ambitions grew from a production company to brand marketing consulting companies to you know, just the products and the businesses, you know, the conversations I need to have with the team, you know, and leadership and the everybody's coming from different backgrounds, and how do you speak everybody's love language because everybody You have to speak differently a little bit to everybody so they could receive it the way you meant it, you know. And I think having the quality of conversations is something that was really helpful for me, meaningful conversations and giving people the space to hear me and also hold them accountable to the things that I need to hold them accountable for. I think though the combination of the two allowed me to look at situations and opportunities differently for people to look at me differently, because it's also a troubling thing when you're walking around as talent for a long time.

That's how they see you, you know, and have an identity, have an identity.

That's how they see you, you know, and have an identity, have an identity.

That's how that's what they're So there's this there's these kid gloves that come along with that.

That's how that's what they're So there's this there's these kid gloves that come along with that.

You know.

You know.

What I'm saying that is it's not everybody's fault. That's everybody's in a role. You have to sometimes just step back and look at the thing that we're in, you know, like we're in an industry you know that has generations and generations of taught behavior and practices that any positive disruptor has to understand those things in order to disrupt them in a way and evolve them. You know, and things are evolving, you see it. You know, the things are evolving in a way, and if you can look at it in it, you know, in a higher way, I think you can find your way through that.

What I'm saying that is it's not everybody's fault. That's everybody's in a role. You have to sometimes just step back and look at the thing that we're in, you know, like we're in an industry you know that has generations and generations of taught behavior and practices that any positive disruptor has to understand those things in order to disrupt them in a way and evolve them. You know, and things are evolving, you see it. You know, the things are evolving in a way, and if you can look at it in it, you know, in a higher way, I think you can find your way through that.

Yeah, yeah, that resonates. There's a You remind me of this beautiful statement from Mark Twain where he said that history never repeats itself, but it always rhymes. And I find like when you were talking about the industry. I was thinking about how if you don't study history, you have the rhyme happening in your life. But then you can't interrupt the patent. So if you were a young star, which you were. I love The Wire as well. I've been a fan of the show. It's like, so you start in this industry early, and then you could spend years trying to figure out why you still have the kid gloves on. Yeah, because you haven't studied that. Wait a minute, that's what happens that unless you disrupt the pattern, present yourself differently, show more of yourself, people are always going to say he's talent, he's an actor, that's that's what he does, as opposed to oh he's a director, Oh he's an entrepreneur, as he's an investor. Right, I know you have lots of investments all again in the healths space, like sports teams, and we're talking about mass as well. So it's it's interesting how much if you don't study the history of our industry, we get locked in the identity of the role we've played.

Yeah, yeah, that resonates. There's a You remind me of this beautiful statement from Mark Twain where he said that history never repeats itself, but it always rhymes. And I find like when you were talking about the industry. I was thinking about how if you don't study history, you have the rhyme happening in your life. But then you can't interrupt the patent. So if you were a young star, which you were. I love The Wire as well. I've been a fan of the show. It's like, so you start in this industry early, and then you could spend years trying to figure out why you still have the kid gloves on. Yeah, because you haven't studied that. Wait a minute, that's what happens that unless you disrupt the pattern, present yourself differently, show more of yourself, people are always going to say he's talent, he's an actor, that's that's what he does, as opposed to oh he's a director, Oh he's an entrepreneur, as he's an investor. Right, I know you have lots of investments all again in the healths space, like sports teams, and we're talking about mass as well. So it's it's interesting how much if you don't study the history of our industry, we get locked in the identity of the role we've played.

In that space, correct forever, correct, And it's so.

In that space, correct forever, correct, And it's so.

Easy for us to get used to feeling and often we do it to ourselves because it's comfortable playing the same role and there's a familiar feeling of when I play this role. And I felt that in my own small way, like when I went from having to create content to get my message out there, even though I wanted to do TV or film or whatever and couldn't get a break, and so I went to content and then I launched a podcast and I told you about why we launched this podcast earlier, and then I wrote books and it was like every time it was like, oh, like, oh, we thought Jay was this, Oh he's actually there. Oh, And I've had to go through that. I've realized the hardest part is you letting go of.

Easy for us to get used to feeling and often we do it to ourselves because it's comfortable playing the same role and there's a familiar feeling of when I play this role. And I felt that in my own small way, like when I went from having to create content to get my message out there, even though I wanted to do TV or film or whatever and couldn't get a break, and so I went to content and then I launched a podcast and I told you about why we launched this podcast earlier, and then I wrote books and it was like every time it was like, oh, like, oh, we thought Jay was this, Oh he's actually there. Oh, And I've had to go through that. I've realized the hardest part is you letting go of.

That identity and reinventing yourself, allowing yourself right Yeah, no, no, definitely, Like I mean have you ever like, you know, has the podcast been something you always wanted to do And this is me just just curious or is it something that you had to read you forced yourself to read to reinvent yourself in a way, because this isn't it for you? Yeah, And you know what I'm saying, I know it's not you know that this is this is a stop for you. This is this is a chapter in your book. Did you ever think I have to reinvent myself or is that a product of the things that we're telling you no or the things that was challenging.

That identity and reinventing yourself, allowing yourself right Yeah, no, no, definitely, Like I mean have you ever like, you know, has the podcast been something you always wanted to do And this is me just just curious or is it something that you had to read you forced yourself to read to reinvent yourself in a way, because this isn't it for you? Yeah, And you know what I'm saying, I know it's not you know that this is this is a stop for you. This is this is a chapter in your book. Did you ever think I have to reinvent myself or is that a product of the things that we're telling you no or the things that was challenging.

Yeah, it's a great question. I think it's a mix of them all. But the thing that kind of like supersedes all of them, which I try and tap into, which I think you resonate with, because I think that's the conversation we're having, is having a connection with your intuition. Like for me, it's I'm not looking at like what's the next trend or like how do I disrupt myself? Because to me, those things are still following other patterns, gotcha? Whereas it's intuitively going like what is what is the thing that I bring or what do I want to do?

Yeah, it's a great question. I think it's a mix of them all. But the thing that kind of like supersedes all of them, which I try and tap into, which I think you resonate with, because I think that's the conversation we're having, is having a connection with your intuition. Like for me, it's I'm not looking at like what's the next trend or like how do I disrupt myself? Because to me, those things are still following other patterns, gotcha? Whereas it's intuitively going like what is what is the thing that I bring or what do I want to do?

What is the.

What is the.

Missing piece of the puzzle that I believe I have a unique qualification to fill because if I'm always looking around, there will always be a million things. Like I always say to people, if you go to a real estate conference, you'll realize you don't invest enough in real estate, Yeah, you go. If you go to a cryptocurrency conference, you'll feel like, oh crap, I didn't do this and if you, like, if I sit with a group of actors, I'll.

Missing piece of the puzzle that I believe I have a unique qualification to fill because if I'm always looking around, there will always be a million things. Like I always say to people, if you go to a real estate conference, you'll realize you don't invest enough in real estate, Yeah, you go. If you go to a cryptocurrency conference, you'll feel like, oh crap, I didn't do this and if you, like, if I sit with a group of actors, I'll.

Be like, oh, man, I should have said.

Be like, oh, man, I should have said.

You're always going to feel the deficiency of the trend that you study, correct, And so if you live that way around, it gets really complicated because then you're like, well, do I do this or do I do that? Like whereas when you go inward, it's like, oh, I feel alignment with this right now because it lets me express myself, lets me connect with people in a certain way. I feel I'm at the right evolution in my journey where it can manifest as opposed to like, oh, let me just figure out what the next big thing.

You're always going to feel the deficiency of the trend that you study, correct, And so if you live that way around, it gets really complicated because then you're like, well, do I do this or do I do that? Like whereas when you go inward, it's like, oh, I feel alignment with this right now because it lets me express myself, lets me connect with people in a certain way. I feel I'm at the right evolution in my journey where it can manifest as opposed to like, oh, let me just figure out what the next big thing.

Is that if that makes so much sense, bro, And I think that's what it is, is like your alignment with where you you feel truthful, you know, and sometimes that always doesn't mean you're going to be financially okay as well. You know, you know, you can feel inspiraucally in line and everything and mortgagees do you know rent is due?

Is that if that makes so much sense, bro, And I think that's what it is, is like your alignment with where you you feel truthful, you know, and sometimes that always doesn't mean you're going to be financially okay as well. You know, you know, you can feel inspiraucally in line and everything and mortgagees do you know rent is due?

You feel?

You feel?

I mean, so there's that element of it as well that you have to find your your way through. Yeah, that that that intuition that that north star is what is something that has led me all types of places that I wouldn't trade in for the world. You know, just that feeling of this feels right, and I know doesn't make sense. Probably there's probably some other things on paper that that seems like the better option or choice, but this feels right and and you know, more often.

I mean, so there's that element of it as well that you have to find your your way through. Yeah, that that that intuition that that north star is what is something that has led me all types of places that I wouldn't trade in for the world. You know, just that feeling of this feels right, and I know doesn't make sense. Probably there's probably some other things on paper that that seems like the better option or choice, but this feels right and and you know, more often.

Than not, you know it's it's been the right move. Yeah.

Than not, you know it's it's been the right move. Yeah.

I love what you were saying earlier about how the thought process is such a powerful way of breaking out over the cloud of your head. And I think we all have moments where the cloud feels like it's never moving, it's constantly raining on you. And I think a lot of people are listening may feel that way, Like.

I love what you were saying earlier about how the thought process is such a powerful way of breaking out over the cloud of your head. And I think we all have moments where the cloud feels like it's never moving, it's constantly raining on you. And I think a lot of people are listening may feel that way, Like.

Have you ever been in that place?

Have you ever been in that place?

And how have you What has helped with your thought process is you've been tuning that what's worked for you at least.

And how have you What has helped with your thought process is you've been tuning that what's worked for you at least.

That's your moment, that's your moment.

That's your moment, that's your moment.

It's not that all is lost when you're feeling the most trapped and down and nothing can't go right. I feel like those are the moments that define you, those of those character canon moments that are like what am I going to do now? You know, how do you respond to that?

It's not that all is lost when you're feeling the most trapped and down and nothing can't go right. I feel like those are the moments that define you, those of those character canon moments that are like what am I going to do now? You know, how do you respond to that?

And thinking your way, feeling your way working your way through those things.

And thinking your way, feeling your way working your way through those things.

On the other side, it's like, you know, I don't know who said the saying, but like usually you know you're the closest to getting what you want. It's always the hardest. It's always the feeling when you're getting ready to you know, people give up right before they get what they've always want.

On the other side, it's like, you know, I don't know who said the saying, but like usually you know you're the closest to getting what you want. It's always the hardest. It's always the feeling when you're getting ready to you know, people give up right before they get what they've always want.

Wanted to get. People quit and they give up.

Wanted to get. People quit and they give up.

And I will not be the person who quit before I got what I wanted or what I needed or what I felt I was supposed to have, you know, Like and if that wasn't for me, it wasn't for me. I'm gonna keep grinding. I'm gonna keep knocking on the door until I get what I feel. That's been something I've always felt, having the name Michael Jordan and understanding that there's another guy out there named Michael Jordan and.

And I will not be the person who quit before I got what I wanted or what I needed or what I felt I was supposed to have, you know, Like and if that wasn't for me, it wasn't for me. I'm gonna keep grinding. I'm gonna keep knocking on the door until I get what I feel. That's been something I've always felt, having the name Michael Jordan and understanding that there's another guy out there named Michael Jordan and.

That was the best ever to do something.

That was the best ever to do something.

And being teased and picked on about that, and and and and made me for a moment not wanting to play sports. But then it was like, nah, I'm actually gonna make sure I'm competitive. I'm gonna compete. At least I'm gonna compete. You're gonna at least see me. I'm gonna be somebody that it's not gonna be. Oh his name is this, it's gonna be Oh no, but he can play, or oh no he can Oh he had he has something about him, something that is formidable, that is above average, that is that is unique to him.

And being teased and picked on about that, and and and and made me for a moment not wanting to play sports. But then it was like, nah, I'm actually gonna make sure I'm competitive. I'm gonna compete. At least I'm gonna compete. You're gonna at least see me. I'm gonna be somebody that it's not gonna be. Oh his name is this, it's gonna be Oh no, but he can play, or oh no he can Oh he had he has something about him, something that is formidable, that is above average, that is that is unique to him.

And again gave me a healthy chip.

And again gave me a healthy chip.

You know, so so and And for the people who are listening, who you know, who do have you know that doesn't feel like they can change the circumstances with the way they think or they feel, just hold on, Just endure, endure, you know, look at things differently. Challenge yourself to look at things as the glass have full. Challenge yourself to think four steps ahead, think your way through it. Like now, we have so many tools, we have so much information. There's a lot of misinformation out there, but there's so much information too to be curious. Find something that you that does resonate with you, even if it's not in the world that you ever thought you would be in. Find something that you align with. And because everybody aligns with something, that's not an excuse. I'm gonna I'm willing to take from anybody you know, align with something and find your find your positivity, find your intuition within that thing, and and be obsessed about it.

You know, so so and And for the people who are listening, who you know, who do have you know that doesn't feel like they can change the circumstances with the way they think or they feel, just hold on, Just endure, endure, you know, look at things differently. Challenge yourself to look at things as the glass have full. Challenge yourself to think four steps ahead, think your way through it. Like now, we have so many tools, we have so much information. There's a lot of misinformation out there, but there's so much information too to be curious. Find something that you that does resonate with you, even if it's not in the world that you ever thought you would be in. Find something that you align with. And because everybody aligns with something, that's not an excuse. I'm gonna I'm willing to take from anybody you know, align with something and find your find your positivity, find your intuition within that thing, and and be obsessed about it.

What have you been obsessed with lately?

What have you been obsessed with lately?

Like, what would you say is the thing you're most obsessed with right now or that you have been in the past couple of years that it's kind of just.

Like, what would you say is the thing you're most obsessed with right now or that you have been in the past couple of years that it's kind of just.

Man, I've been obsessed with getting my team right. I've been obsessed with getting the right personnel on the right brain frequency and getting everybody on the same page to.

Man, I've been obsessed with getting my team right. I've been obsessed with getting the right personnel on the right brain frequency and getting everybody on the same page to.

Accomplish these things that we need.

Accomplish these things that we need.

To go accomplish because I truly believe it's going to be better for everyone.

To go accomplish because I truly believe it's going to be better for everyone.

I think it's really going to make an impact, you know.

I think it's really going to make an impact, you know.

And so there's there's a there's a obsessiveness that you got to have to over communicate, to follow up, to be redundant, to be consistent you know that you need. And I'm obsessed about it, you know, Strengthening my family, I'm obsessed over it, you know, to lead by example, you know, and break generational trauma and curses over it. And I'm obsessed over every project that I lend myself to. So this next movie that me and Ryan's doing, I'm literally you know, I'm growing on my stuff out you know what I mean, my air and stuff that now I'm becoming obsessed with it, you know, and that character and it's it's a it's an addictive feeling to have a thought and see it come to fruition, to create something out of out of you know, out of an from an idea, and to be persistent and to see it and to manifest it, you know, manifestation.

And so there's there's a there's a obsessiveness that you got to have to over communicate, to follow up, to be redundant, to be consistent you know that you need. And I'm obsessed about it, you know, Strengthening my family, I'm obsessed over it, you know, to lead by example, you know, and break generational trauma and curses over it. And I'm obsessed over every project that I lend myself to. So this next movie that me and Ryan's doing, I'm literally you know, I'm growing on my stuff out you know what I mean, my air and stuff that now I'm becoming obsessed with it, you know, and that character and it's it's a it's an addictive feeling to have a thought and see it come to fruition, to create something out of out of you know, out of an from an idea, and to be persistent and to see it and to manifest it, you know, manifestation.

You love it, you know what I mean. It's cool.

You love it, you know what I mean. It's cool.

So so that's something that I've been I've been really really locked in with, and I think it's also something that it's going to help people. You know, there's there's always a I don't want anything that's not multi hyphening. I want I want anything that I'm involved in it. It has to have layers to it, you know. How do you help? How do you educate? What's to leave behind? What blueprint am I leaving for the next generation? You know, I got a nephew now, you know that is looking up at me constantly, Yes, because of height, but also because of the example, you know, and he's mimicking everything I do. He're mimicking anything. I can say something, do something, I can sit a certain type of way.

So so that's something that I've been I've been really really locked in with, and I think it's also something that it's going to help people. You know, there's there's always a I don't want anything that's not multi hyphening. I want I want anything that I'm involved in it. It has to have layers to it, you know. How do you help? How do you educate? What's to leave behind? What blueprint am I leaving for the next generation? You know, I got a nephew now, you know that is looking up at me constantly, Yes, because of height, but also because of the example, you know, and he's mimicking everything I do. He're mimicking anything. I can say something, do something, I can sit a certain type of way.

Doing it too.

Doing it too.

It's crazy.

It's crazy.

So it clarifies your intention when you do things because you want it to have you know, purpose and intention, you know. So those are the things. And I'm obsessed with being the best version of myself and that's a daily thing, you know, And some days are better than others, finding myself in.

So it clarifies your intention when you do things because you want it to have you know, purpose and intention, you know. So those are the things. And I'm obsessed with being the best version of myself and that's a daily thing, you know, And some days are better than others, finding myself in.

A world where there's so many.

A world where there's so many.

Seen opinions about yourself, when everybody's telling you who and what you are, you know, learning how to live, you know, growing up in it, like and it's so wild. I've been doing this for twenty five years straight, you know, and that's a wild thing to think about. The man, more than half of my life has been my identity has been through the work that I've been doing and growing up and with you know, social media what didn't exist and now it does at a point where I'm old enough to understand what that can do. So I'm obsessed with finding myself now after and not having to prove anything to anybody other than myself and my family, you know, but really myself, and realizing that that is enough, you know what I'm saying, Like that, like giving your best is enough, and sometimes we lose track.