What idea have you been sitting on lately?

What’s been holding you back from starting?

Today, Jay sits down with engineer, innovator, and YouTube creator Mark Rober to explore the unexpected life experiences that shaped one of the internet’s most beloved minds. Mark shares the childhood moments that ignited his passion for building, breaking, and understanding how the world works, moments nurtured by a mother whose love, imagination, and encouragement helped lay the foundation for his life’s mission. He reflects on how her influence continues to ripple outward, inspiring millions of young people who learn, explore, and dream through his work today.

Jay and Mark explore the mindset that carried Mark from NASA engineer to innovative educator, unpacking what it really means to “think like an engineer:” experiment boldly, embrace failure, and treat every setback as an opportunity to learn. They follow Mark’s unusual pivots, from designing Mars rover hardware to crafting Halloween costumes, to ultimately shaping a career that blends curiosity, storytelling, science, and play. Together they reveal the deeper lessons behind Mark’s most viral experiments: why creativity thrives when we stay childlike, how passion reveals itself through repetition, and why the most meaningful work grows from genuine excitement rather than algorithms or expectations.

In this interview, you'll learn:

How to Think Like an Engineer

How to Stay Curious as an Adult

How to Follow Your Passion Practically

How to Build Ideas That Actually Work

How to Find Creativity in Everyday Life

How to Recognize Your Real Calling

How to Inspire Others Through Your Work

Keep following the questions that excite you, keep trying the things that scare you, and keep believing that you’re capable of far more than you realize. Your next breakthrough might be just one experiment, or one brave attempt away.

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

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What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

01:16 Were You Always Creative?

04:02 Understanding the Real Impact of Your Life

06:55 What It Really Takes to Work at NASA

09:49 Learning to Think Like an Engineer

11:22 How Rovers Are Tested for Mars

12:20 Searching for Life Beyond Earth

13:24 Follow What You Truly Love Doing

16:11 If You Can Imagine It, You Can Build It

17:22 Practical Wisdom from a Lifelong Tinkerer

20:57 The Pivot from NASA to Apple

23:34 Turning Ideas into Actionable Success

24:45 What is the Engineering Design Process?

28:28 Why Embracing Failure Matters

29:57 Relearning Trust and Finding Love Again

34:56 The Power of Immersion Weekends

36:45 Making Learning Engaging Through Creativity

40:29 Why Mastery Is Worth Pursuing

41:40 Balancing Business with True Creativity

44:51 How Communication Shapes Great Storytelling

47:40 Two Common Mistakes Creators Make

52:30 Staying True to Your Creative Style

54:04 The Importance of Focusing on One Passion

56:44 The Hidden Failures Behind Viral Success

59:35 Giving Kids Room to Be Creative

01:04:30 Curiosity as the Root of Creativity

01:06:07 Inside a Real Creative Process

01:08:45 Where Do You Get Your Big Ideas?

01:11:46 The Mind-Bending Question of Life in the Universe

01:16:02 The Promise and Peril of Rapid AI Growth

01:19:56 Focusing on What You Can Truly Influence 

01:24:57 Mark on Final Five

Episode Resources:

Mark Rober | X

Mark Rober | Instagram

Mark Rober | Facebook

Mark Rober | LinkedIn

Mark Rober | TikTok

Mark Rober | YouTube

What idea have you been sitting on lately?
What&rsquo;s been holding you back from starting?
Today, Jay sits down with engineer, innovator, and YouTube creator Mark Rober to explore the unexpected life experiences that shaped one of the internet&rsquo;s most beloved minds. Mark shares the childhood moments that ignited his passion for building, breaking, and understanding how the world works, moments nurtured by a mother whose love, imagination, and encouragement helped lay the foundation for his life&rsquo;s mission. He reflects on how her influence continues to ripple outward, inspiring millions of young people who learn, explore, and dream through his work today.
Jay and Mark explore the mindset that carried Mark from NASA engineer to innovative educator, unpacking what it really means to &ldquo;think like an engineer:&rdquo; experiment boldly, embrace failure, and treat every setback as an opportunity to learn. They follow Mark&rsquo;s unusual pivots, from designing Mars rover hardware to crafting Halloween costumes, to ultimately shaping a career that blends curiosity, storytelling, science, and play. Together they reveal the deeper lessons behind Mark&rsquo;s most viral experiments: why creativity thrives when we stay childlike, how passion reveals itself through repetition, and why the most meaningful work grows from genuine excitement rather than algorithms or expectations.
In this interview, you'll learn:
How to Think Like an Engineer
How to Stay Curious as an Adult
How to Follow Your Passion Practically
How to Build Ideas That Actually Work
How to Find Creativity in Everyday Life
How to Recognize Your Real Calling
How to Inspire Others Through Your Work
Keep following the questions that excite you, keep trying the things that scare you, and keep believing that you&rsquo;re capable of far more than you realize. Your next breakthrough might be just one experiment, or one brave attempt away.
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
Join over 750,000 people to receive my most transformative wisdom directly in your inbox every single week with my free newsletter. Subscribe <a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe">here</a>.&nbsp;
Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! <a href="https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast">https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast</a>&nbsp;
What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
01:16 Were You Always Creative?
04:02 Understanding the Real Impact of Your Life
06:55 What It Really Takes to Work at NASA
09:49 Learning to Think Like an Engineer
11:22 How Rovers Are Tested for Mars
12:20 Searching for Life Beyond Earth
13:24 Follow What You Truly Love Doing
16:11 If You Can Imagine It, You Can Build It
17:22 Practical Wisdom from a Lifelong Tinkerer
20:57 The Pivot from NASA to Apple
23:34 Turning Ideas into Actionable Success
24:45 What is the Engineering Design Process?
28:28 Why Embracing Failure Matters
29:57 Relearning Trust and Finding Love Again
34:56 The Power of Immersion Weekends
36:45 Making Learning Engaging Through Creativity
40:29 Why Mastery Is Worth Pursuing
41:40 Balancing Business with True Creativity
44:51 How Communication Shapes Great Storytelling
47:40 Two Common Mistakes Creators Make
52:30 Staying True to Your Creative Style
54:04 The Importance of Focusing on One Passion
56:44 The Hidden Failures Behind Viral Success
59:35 Giving Kids Room to Be Creative
01:04:30 Curiosity as the Root of Creativity
01:06:07 Inside a Real Creative Process
01:08:45 Where Do You Get Your Big Ideas?
01:11:46 The Mind-Bending Question of Life in the Universe
01:16:02 The Promise and Peril of Rapid AI Growth
01:19:56 Focusing on What You Can Truly Influence&nbsp;
01:24:57 Mark on Final Five
Episode Resources:
Mark Rober | <a href="https://x.com/MarkRober">X</a>
Mark Rober | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/markrober">Instagram</a>
Mark Rober | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/MarkRoberYouTube/">Facebook</a>
Mark Rober | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-rober-a56a6b99/">LinkedIn</a>
Mark Rober | <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@markrober">TikTok</a>
Mark Rober | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCY1kMZp36IQSyNx_9h4mpCg">YouTube</a>

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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace.
I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

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My name is Jay Shetty, and my purpose is to make wisdom go viral. I’m fortunate to have fascinating conversations with the most insightful people in the world, and on my podcast, I’m sharing those conversations with you. New episodes Mondays and Fridays. Please rate and review the podcast if you enjoy it. Live life today ON PURPOSE.

Mark Rober: Feeling Stuck in a Rut? Use THIS Simple 3- Step Method Engineers Use to FINALLY Turn Your Ideas Into Reality!

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