Ten years after the loss of her husband, neurosurgeon and bestselling author Paul Kalanithi, Dr. Lucy Kalanithi reflects on how grief continues to evolve rather than disappear. In this deeply moving conversation with Jay, she shares what it means to find purpose alongside pain, why the goal isn't to fix suffering but to make meaning from it, and how staying present through life's hardest moments can transform the way we love, heal, and truly live.

In this episode you'll learn:

How to Live Through Grief

How to Support Someone Grieving

How to Talk About Death

How to Stay Present Through Pain

How to Comfort Without Trying to Fix

How to Honor Loved Ones

How to Raise Resilient Children

No matter what season of life you're in, remember that joy and sorrow can exist side by side. Healing isn't about leaving pain behind, it's about learning to carry it with greater compassion, presence, and hope.

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

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What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

01:20 Life After Loss

03:22 A New Perspective on Death

07:15 Does Time Really Heal?

08:36 Does Everything Happen for a Reason?

11:12 Helping Someone at the End of Their Life

15:33 The Biggest Myth About Grief 

17:56 Preparing for Death

23:08 Lessons From Facing Death 

30:28 You Are Stronger Than You Think

35:33 Let Your Child Find Meaning On Their Own

40:02 Choosing Family Despite Uncertainty

43:48 A Different Way to Grieve

47:38 Keeping a Loved One Alive After They’re Gone

50:33 Can You Love Again?

53:23 What Real Partnership Means

57:19 Letting Go vs. Giving Up

01:02:39 Sitting With the Dying

01:05:58 Sharing Life-Changing News

01:08:41 How to Live Well 

Episode Resources:

LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucy-kalanithi-baab214 

X | https://x.com/rocketgirlmd

Ten years after the loss of her husband, neurosurgeon and bestselling author Paul Kalanithi, Dr. Lucy Kalanithi reflects on how grief continues to evolve rather than disappear. In this deeply moving conversation with Jay, she shares what it means to find purpose alongside pain, why the goal isn't to fix suffering but to make meaning from it, and how staying present through life's hardest moments can transform the way we love, heal, and truly live.
In this episode you'll learn:
How to Live Through Grief
How to Support Someone Grieving
How to Talk About Death
How to Stay Present Through Pain
How to Comfort Without Trying to Fix
How to Honor Loved Ones
How to Raise Resilient Children
No matter what season of life you're in, remember that joy and sorrow can exist side by side. Healing isn't about leaving pain behind, it's about learning to carry it with greater compassion, presence, and hope.
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
JAY&rsquo;S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX
Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe <a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe">https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe</a> &nbsp;
Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! <a href="https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast">https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast</a>&nbsp;
What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
01:20 Life After Loss
03:22 A New Perspective on Death
07:15 Does Time Really Heal?
08:36 Does Everything Happen for a Reason?
11:12 Helping Someone at the End of Their Life
15:33 The Biggest Myth About Grief&nbsp;
17:56 Preparing for Death
23:08 Lessons From Facing Death&nbsp;
30:28 You Are Stronger Than You Think
35:33 Let Your Child Find Meaning On Their Own
40:02 Choosing Family Despite Uncertainty
43:48 A Different Way to Grieve
47:38 Keeping a Loved One Alive After They&rsquo;re Gone
50:33 Can You Love Again?
53:23 What Real Partnership Means
57:19 Letting Go vs. Giving Up
01:02:39 Sitting With the Dying
01:05:58 Sharing Life-Changing News
01:08:41 How to Live Well&nbsp;
Episode Resources:
LinkedIn | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucy-kalanithi-baab214">https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucy-kalanithi-baab214</a>&nbsp;
X | <a href="https://x.com/rocketgirlmd">https://x.com/rocketgirlmd</a>

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace.

I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace.
I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

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My name is Jay Shetty, and my purpose is to make wisdom go viral. I’m fortunate to have fascinating conversations with the most insightful people in the world, and on my podcast, I’m sharing those conversations with you. New episodes Mondays and Fridays. Please rate and review the podcast if you enjoy it. Live life today ON PURPOSE.

Lucy Kalanithi: What Loss Can Teach Us About Living (The Perspective Shift That Changes Everything)

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In one of her most honest conversations yet, Layla Taylor reflects on the quiet journey of becoming herself. She opens up about coming out as bisexual, navigating faith, identity, single motherhood, and the weight of growing up feeling like she had to fit into everyone else's expectations. Rather than focusing on the hardships alone, this episode explores what happens when you stop living in survival mode and finally choose authenticity, self-worth, and the freedom to define your own life.

In this episode you'll learn:

How to Stop Living for Other People's Approval

How to Finally Embrace Your Authentic Self

How to Leave a Toxic Relationship Without Regret

How to Find Yourself After Divorce and Heartbreak

How to Be Comfortable Being Alone for the First Time

How to Turn Your Hardest Experiences Into Strength

The greatest freedom comes from embracing yourself with honesty, letting go of the expectations that no longer serve you, and trusting that growth often begins on the other side of fear. Your story doesn't have to be perfect to be meaningful, it just has to be yours.

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

JAY’S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX

Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe  

Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast 

What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

00:48 Coming Out for the First Time

02:45 Stop Living for Other People

03:48 Choosing to Be Yourself

06:33 Understanding Your Sexuality

07:56 Why We Need to Talk About Sex

10:08 Why I Became Mormon

12:50 The Need to Fit In

15:12 How My Kids Changed Me

16:53 Becoming a Mom at 19

18:15 Why I Chose Marriage

19:53 Inside a Toxic Relationship

21:04 Learning to Know Your Worth

23:24 Starting Over as a Single Mom

25:54 My Lowest Point

27:31 Learning to Date Again

29:05 Finding Yourself in Solitude

30:32 The Conversation Women Need to Have

33:08 Why Sex Education Matters

36:26 Letting Go of Perfection

36:59 Accepting Who You Are

38:51 Facing Your Biggest Fear

39:40 Dating Women for the First Time

41:07 The Reality of Parenting

43:00 Raising Mentally Healthy Kids

44:16 Healing Low Self-Worth

46:41 Using Your Platform for Good

47:58 Opening Your Heart Again

49:03 If You're Afraid to Come Out

52:30 Layla on Final Five 

Episode Resources:

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/laylaleannetaylor 

TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@laylaleannetaylor

In one of her most honest conversations yet, Layla Taylor reflects on the quiet journey of becoming herself. She opens up about coming out as bisexual, navigating faith, identity, single motherhood, and the weight of growing up feeling like she had to fit into everyone else's expectations. Rather than focusing on the hardships alone, this episode explores what happens when you stop living in survival mode and finally choose authenticity, self-worth, and the freedom to define your own life.
In this episode you'll learn:
How to Stop Living for Other People's Approval
How to Finally Embrace Your Authentic Self
How to Leave a Toxic Relationship Without Regret
How to Find Yourself After Divorce and Heartbreak
How to Be Comfortable Being Alone for the First Time
How to Turn Your Hardest Experiences Into Strength
The greatest freedom comes from embracing yourself with honesty, letting go of the expectations that no longer serve you, and trusting that growth often begins on the other side of fear. Your story doesn't have to be perfect to be meaningful, it just has to be yours.
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
JAY&rsquo;S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX
Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe <a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe">https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe</a> &nbsp;
Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! <a href="https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast">https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast</a>&nbsp;
What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
00:48 Coming Out for the First Time
02:45 Stop Living for Other People
03:48 Choosing to Be Yourself
06:33 Understanding Your Sexuality
07:56 Why We Need to Talk About Sex
10:08 Why I Became Mormon
12:50 The Need to Fit In
15:12 How My Kids Changed Me
16:53 Becoming a Mom at 19
18:15 Why I Chose Marriage
19:53 Inside a Toxic Relationship
21:04 Learning to Know Your Worth
23:24 Starting Over as a Single Mom
25:54 My Lowest Point
27:31 Learning to Date Again
29:05 Finding Yourself in Solitude
30:32 The Conversation Women Need to Have
33:08 Why Sex Education Matters
36:26 Letting Go of Perfection
36:59 Accepting Who You Are
38:51 Facing Your Biggest Fear
39:40 Dating Women for the First Time
41:07 The Reality of Parenting
43:00 Raising Mentally Healthy Kids
44:16 Healing Low Self-Worth
46:41 Using Your Platform for Good
47:58 Opening Your Heart Again
49:03 If You're Afraid to Come Out
52:30 Layla on Final Five&nbsp;
Episode Resources:
Instagram | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/laylaleannetaylor">https://www.instagram.com/laylaleannetaylor</a>&nbsp;
TikTok | <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@laylaleannetaylor">https://www.tiktok.com/@laylaleannetaylor</a>

Layla Taylor EXCLUSIVE: The Truth She's Finally Ready To Share

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Some endings hurt because they leave us with unanswered questions. After a breakup, it’s natural to search for reasons, replay memories, and hope for one final conversation that will make everything make sense. In this episode, Jay explores why closure is often misunderstood and how the answers we seek from someone else rarely bring the peace we’re hoping for. True healing begins when we stop waiting for another person to explain our pain and start turning inward instead.

Jay shares a powerful perspective on heartbreak: closure is not something we receive, it’s something we create. Through acceptance, self-reflection, and intentional healing, we can transform loss into growth. Rather than centering our lives around what ended, we learn to rebuild around who we are becoming. The goal isn’t to erase the past, it’s to emerge from it with greater self-awareness, stronger boundaries, and a deeper trust in ourselves.

In this episode you'll learn:

How to Heal Through No Contact

How to Rebuild Yourself After Heartbreak

How to Separate Facts From Feelings

How to Stop Romanticizing Your Ex

How to Turn Heartbreak Into Growth

How to Measure Healing the Right Way

Heartbreak has a way of convincing us that healing is somewhere in the future, waiting behind the perfect explanation, apology, or final conversation. But growth often begins the moment we stop chasing what we cannot control and start caring for what we can.

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

JAY’S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX

Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe here: https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe 

Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast 

What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

01:46 Why More Answers Create More Questions

05:52 The Power of No Contact After a Breakup

08:44 Why Real Closure Comes From Within

15:17 The Best Way to Find Closure

18:45 The Biggest Mistake People Make After a Breakup

20:55 It's Okay to Hold Contradictory Feelings

23:56 Measure Healing in a New Way

Some endings hurt because they leave us with unanswered questions. After a breakup, it&rsquo;s natural to search for reasons, replay memories, and hope for one final conversation that will make everything make sense. In this episode, Jay explores why closure is often misunderstood and how the answers we seek from someone else rarely bring the peace we&rsquo;re hoping for. True healing begins when we stop waiting for another person to explain our pain and start turning inward instead.
Jay shares a powerful perspective on heartbreak: closure is not something we receive, it&rsquo;s something we create. Through acceptance, self-reflection, and intentional healing, we can transform loss into growth. Rather than centering our lives around what ended, we learn to rebuild around who we are becoming. The goal isn&rsquo;t to erase the past, it&rsquo;s to emerge from it with greater self-awareness, stronger boundaries, and a deeper trust in ourselves.
In this episode you'll learn:
How to Heal Through No Contact
How to Rebuild Yourself After Heartbreak
How to Separate Facts From Feelings
How to Stop Romanticizing Your Ex
How to Turn Heartbreak Into Growth
How to Measure Healing the Right Way
Heartbreak has a way of convincing us that healing is somewhere in the future, waiting behind the perfect explanation, apology, or final conversation. But growth often begins the moment we stop chasing what we cannot control and start caring for what we can.
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
JAY&rsquo;S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX
Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe here: <a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe">https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe</a>&nbsp;
Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! <a href="https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast">https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast</a>&nbsp;
What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
01:46 Why More Answers Create More Questions
05:52 The Power of No Contact After a Breakup
08:44 Why Real Closure Comes From Within
15:17 The Best Way to Find Closure
18:45 The Biggest Mistake People Make After a Breakup
20:55 It's Okay to Hold Contradictory Feelings
23:56 Measure Healing in a New Way

If You Can't Stop Thinking About Your Ex, Do This (The Path To Real Closure)

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For decades, we’ve been told that success and spirituality live in separate worlds. One is about achievement, the other about inner peace. In this conversation, John Mackey shares why he believes the two are deeply connected. Reflecting on the journey of building Whole Foods Market, he explores how purpose, intuition, gratitude, and conscious leadership shaped both his business and his life. From navigating near-failure and selling the company to Amazon, to redefining success beyond money and status, this episode is a powerful invitation to lead with more awareness, build with more heart, and create a life that feels as meaningful on the inside as it looks on the outside.

In this episode you'll learn:

How to Build a Business With Purpose

How to Turn Setbacks Into Growth

How to Find Joy in Your Work

How to Turn Envy Into Learning

How to Create a Culture People Never Want to Leave

How to Make Difficult Decisions With Compassion

How to Stay Connected to What Matters Most

There will be setbacks, doubts, and moments when things don’t go according to plan, but those moments don’t define your journey. What matters is continuing to move forward with purpose, staying connected to what brings you joy, and remembering that success means little if it costs you who you are.

John’s book, The Whole Story: Adventures in Love, Life, and Capitalism, talks about why Whole Foods isn’t just a business success story, it’s the story of a retail, cultural, and dietary revolution that has forever changed the industry and the way we eat. Grab a copy here: https://www.amazon.com/Whole-Story-Adventures-Love-Capitalism/dp/1637745125 

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

JAY’S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX

Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe  

Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast 

What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

02:37 Answering the Call to Adventure

05:53 The Search for Meaning and Consciousness

09:42 A Spiritual Awakening Through Psychedelics

13:40 Exploring the Inner Universe

17:45 Envy Steals Joy

19:49 Understanding Ego Death

24:54 The Power of Play and Creativity

27:33 Follow What Brings You Joy

29:36 Confronting Your Inner Critic

33:45 Building a Business With Heart

35:45 The Gift of Being Fully Present

39:10 Responding to Life’s Greatest Challenges

41:35 Turn Mistakes Into Growth

44:24 The Rise of Conscious Leadership

46:15 The Decision to Sell to Amazon

53:34 A Year of Gratitude and Goodbyes

55:23 Attracting Great People to Your Mission

57:10 Letting People Go With Compassion

59:45 John on Final Five

Episode Resources:

Website | https://johnpmackey.com/ 

Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/iamjohnmackey 

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/iamjohnmackey/ 

LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/iamjohnmackey 

X | https://x.com/iamjohnmackey 

Linktree | https://linktr.ee/iamjohnmackey

For decades, we&rsquo;ve been told that success and spirituality live in separate worlds. One is about achievement, the other about inner peace. In this conversation, John Mackey shares why he believes the two are deeply connected. Reflecting on the journey of building Whole Foods Market, he explores how purpose, intuition, gratitude, and conscious leadership shaped both his business and his life. From navigating near-failure and selling the company to Amazon, to redefining success beyond money and status, this episode is a powerful invitation to lead with more awareness, build with more heart, and create a life that feels as meaningful on the inside as it looks on the outside.
In this episode you'll learn:
How to Build a Business With Purpose
How to Turn Setbacks Into Growth
How to Find Joy in Your Work
How to Turn Envy Into Learning
How to Create a Culture People Never Want to Leave
How to Make Difficult Decisions With Compassion
How to Stay Connected to What Matters Most
There will be setbacks, doubts, and moments when things don&rsquo;t go according to plan, but those moments don&rsquo;t define your journey. What matters is continuing to move forward with purpose, staying connected to what brings you joy, and remembering that success means little if it costs you who you are.
John&rsquo;s book, The Whole Story: Adventures in Love, Life, and Capitalism, talks about why Whole Foods isn&rsquo;t just a business success story, it&rsquo;s the story of a retail, cultural, and dietary revolution that has forever changed the industry and the way we eat. Grab a copy here: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Whole-Story-Adventures-Love-Capitalism/dp/1637745125">https://www.amazon.com/Whole-Story-Adventures-Love-Capitalism/dp/1637745125</a>&nbsp;
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
JAY&rsquo;S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX
Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe <a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe">https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe</a> &nbsp;
Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! <a href="https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast">https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast</a>&nbsp;
What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
02:37 Answering the Call to Adventure
05:53 The Search for Meaning and Consciousness
09:42 A Spiritual Awakening Through Psychedelics
13:40 Exploring the Inner Universe
17:45 Envy Steals Joy
19:49 Understanding Ego Death
24:54 The Power of Play and Creativity
27:33 Follow What Brings You Joy
29:36 Confronting Your Inner Critic
33:45 Building a Business With Heart
35:45 The Gift of Being Fully Present
39:10 Responding to Life&rsquo;s Greatest Challenges
41:35 Turn Mistakes Into Growth
44:24 The Rise of Conscious Leadership
46:15 The Decision to Sell to Amazon
53:34 A Year of Gratitude and Goodbyes
55:23 Attracting Great People to Your Mission
57:10 Letting People Go With Compassion
59:45 John on Final Five
Episode Resources:
Website | <a href="https://johnpmackey.com/">https://johnpmackey.com/</a>&nbsp;
Facebook | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/iamjohnmackey">https://www.facebook.com/iamjohnmackey</a>&nbsp;
Instagram | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/iamjohnmackey/">https://www.instagram.com/iamjohnmackey/</a>&nbsp;
LinkedIn | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/iamjohnmackey">https://www.linkedin.com/in/iamjohnmackey</a>&nbsp;
X | <a href="https://x.com/iamjohnmackey">https://x.com/iamjohnmackey</a>&nbsp;
Linktree | <a href="https://linktr.ee/iamjohnmackey">https://linktr.ee/iamjohnmackey</a>

John Mackey: Not Sure You're on the Right Path In Your Career? (Use THIS Framework When You Feel Lost About What's Next)

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Lucy Kalanithi: What Loss Can Teach Us About Living (The Perspective Shift That Changes Everything)

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