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Hey. Everyone, welcome back to On Purpose, the number one health podcast in the world. Thanks to each and every one of you that come back every week to become happier, healthier, and more healed. And I'm so grateful for this community that we have here because I get to sit down with some of the most incredible minds in the world, people that I find fascinating not just personally and professionally, but because of the potential and the purpose that they have. Today's guest is someone who has been on my list to interview from day one, so it's a very special moment for me. I'm very excited. I'm speaking about someone the one and only Kevin Hart, Hollywood's box office powerhouse, opening eleven films at number one at the box office and grossing more than four point two three billion dollars in global revenue. Kevin has also become a successful entrepreneur. He's a chairman of Heartbeat, a global multimedia platform company creating entertainment at the intersection of comedy and culture with a mission to keep the world laughing together. I love that. Kevin is also the founder of Heartbeat Ventures. Kevin is the New York Times best selling author twice over, and his first audible original, The Decision, was nominated for an Audio Award for Best Original Audiobook. And I spent my last five hikes listening to his new audiobook, Monsters and How to Tame Them. And I have to tell you, and I'm going to tell Kevin right now because he's sitting in front of me. Dude, I have not been that into something for a long long time. And I'll tell you why. I have not stopped talking about the different monsters, the different personalities, to my wife, my team, to my colleagues. You've made it so relevant and accessible to talk about your flaws in a way that I've never seen before. So thank you so much for being here, man, and thank you so grateful to be sitting with you.

Hey. Everyone, welcome back to On Purpose, the number one health podcast in the world. Thanks to each and every one of you that come back every week to become happier, healthier, and more healed. And I'm so grateful for this community that we have here because I get to sit down with some of the most incredible minds in the world, people that I find fascinating not just personally and professionally, but because of the potential and the purpose that they have. Today's guest is someone who has been on my list to interview from day one, so it's a very special moment for me. I'm very excited. I'm speaking about someone the one and only Kevin Hart, Hollywood's box office powerhouse, opening eleven films at number one at the box office and grossing more than four point two three billion dollars in global revenue. Kevin has also become a successful entrepreneur. He's a chairman of Heartbeat, a global multimedia platform company creating entertainment at the intersection of comedy and culture with a mission to keep the world laughing together. I love that. Kevin is also the founder of Heartbeat Ventures. Kevin is the New York Times best selling author twice over, and his first audible original, The Decision, was nominated for an Audio Award for Best Original Audiobook. And I spent my last five hikes listening to his new audiobook, Monsters and How to Tame Them. And I have to tell you, and I'm going to tell Kevin right now because he's sitting in front of me. Dude, I have not been that into something for a long long time. And I'll tell you why. I have not stopped talking about the different monsters, the different personalities, to my wife, my team, to my colleagues. You've made it so relevant and accessible to talk about your flaws in a way that I've never seen before. So thank you so much for being here, man, and thank you so grateful to be sitting with you.

Thank you, and you know, you know when flowers are thrown out, I believe that they should, uh, they should sometimes be returned and in this case, Man, I'm here for a reason. The work that you've done, success that you've had is groundbreaking. So major congrats to you. I just want to say there's an there's an equal level of appreciation and excitement for the moment. Man, You've done some groundbreaking podcast your guests to how you've gotten people open up, the conversations that you've had. More importantly, you know, the lives that you're saving by just being transparent, authentic and true to who you are. I think it's it's dope as hell. So, uh, it's an honor the sit across from you. I'm excited about the conversation and it's one that's been on my list as well. So I'm glad that you know, we finally got it worked out. It's where we can make this happen.

Thank you, and you know, you know when flowers are thrown out, I believe that they should, uh, they should sometimes be returned and in this case, Man, I'm here for a reason. The work that you've done, success that you've had is groundbreaking. So major congrats to you. I just want to say there's an there's an equal level of appreciation and excitement for the moment. Man, You've done some groundbreaking podcast your guests to how you've gotten people open up, the conversations that you've had. More importantly, you know, the lives that you're saving by just being transparent, authentic and true to who you are. I think it's it's dope as hell. So, uh, it's an honor the sit across from you. I'm excited about the conversation and it's one that's been on my list as well. So I'm glad that you know, we finally got it worked out. It's where we can make this happen.

Yeah, thank you. Man. That's that's very kind and it's really beautiful hearing that from you, honestly, So let's dive in before we keep going back and forth with Roses.

Yeah, thank you. Man. That's that's very kind and it's really beautiful hearing that from you, honestly, So let's dive in before we keep going back and forth with Roses.

Let's go.

Let's go.

Let's get it. You know. One of the things I want to start off and this is going to take us anywhere and everywhere is how does it feel when you're winning and then you discover you got monsters? Because that's kind of the journey you've been on. And I want to go back and forth in this journey, but I want to start there, like, what does it feel like when you're winning, you're succeeding, but then you all of a sudden go, I've still got monsters in there?

Let's get it. You know. One of the things I want to start off and this is going to take us anywhere and everywhere is how does it feel when you're winning and then you discover you got monsters? Because that's kind of the journey you've been on. And I want to go back and forth in this journey, but I want to start there, like, what does it feel like when you're winning, you're succeeding, but then you all of a sudden go, I've still got monsters in there?

You know when you say and use the the word monsters, just for clarity so people can understand. Of course, we're talking about the different levels to you, right and within the levels that I've discovered in myself of myself, you know, you got your good versions and your band versions and the bad versions I refer to as monsters, but just because they're bad doesn't mean they don't have good quality. And when you're winning and you're succeeding, there's this idea that everything is right. There's this idea that perfection is now presented itself in life. Moving forward is going to be just an easy road. And it's not until you're in that position where you expect perfection and you think that that you start to see the true problems and flaws really present themselves and you know, my monsters have been masked in disguise in various different ways, but I've been able to pinpoint them throughout the years because some of those monsters grew got stronger developed. You're talking about the world of an ego, the idea of who you think you are versus what you are, or the idea of expectations and needs as to what you feel you need and what you have to have. That's a that's a monster that's feeding that right that that engine of well, now that I'm making money, this is what I should have, this is how I should look, this is how I'm supposed to be. That's a monster that you're feeding, because ultimately you're buying into something that you're creating. You're you're enhancing this world of thought. And it's not till you sit down and you take a breather and you start to really kind of you start to really figure out the true definition of happiness for you, You start to really understand, uh, the adult that you have grown into and the level of maturity that has now I guess you can say have been banked inside the the the human that you are. It's you're banking so much over the years and ultimately you're you're shaping and molding yourself into this this grounded hopefully, this grounded individual that you're proud to look at in the mirror. At the end of the day, I had to start to I had to get to a place to where I was looking in the mirror and I was proud of what I was looking at, and I was okay with checking myself. I was okay with pointing out my flaws. I was okay with knowing what I do well and what I do wrong. And at the end of the day, there's no consequence to always improving, there's no consequence to growing. You're in the time now where people almost frown upon the world of growth, I embraced at I embraced the world of correction. So the monsters and the world of how to tame them came from me understanding the different levels of monsters that have presented themselves to me over the years, and me getting them to a point to where I put them in a place where I can control them. They're still there. They can rear their heads, but I can say sit down, that's not necessary, that's not needed, And I can tell when one is trying to take me back to a place of old. But at the age forty three, it's exciting to know that I've grown from so much and you know, the world of want is significantly different than what it once was.

You know when you say and use the the word monsters, just for clarity so people can understand. Of course, we're talking about the different levels to you, right and within the levels that I've discovered in myself of myself, you know, you got your good versions and your band versions and the bad versions I refer to as monsters, but just because they're bad doesn't mean they don't have good quality. And when you're winning and you're succeeding, there's this idea that everything is right. There's this idea that perfection is now presented itself in life. Moving forward is going to be just an easy road. And it's not until you're in that position where you expect perfection and you think that that you start to see the true problems and flaws really present themselves and you know, my monsters have been masked in disguise in various different ways, but I've been able to pinpoint them throughout the years because some of those monsters grew got stronger developed. You're talking about the world of an ego, the idea of who you think you are versus what you are, or the idea of expectations and needs as to what you feel you need and what you have to have. That's a that's a monster that's feeding that right that that engine of well, now that I'm making money, this is what I should have, this is how I should look, this is how I'm supposed to be. That's a monster that you're feeding, because ultimately you're buying into something that you're creating. You're you're enhancing this world of thought. And it's not till you sit down and you take a breather and you start to really kind of you start to really figure out the true definition of happiness for you, You start to really understand, uh, the adult that you have grown into and the level of maturity that has now I guess you can say have been banked inside the the the human that you are. It's you're banking so much over the years and ultimately you're you're shaping and molding yourself into this this grounded hopefully, this grounded individual that you're proud to look at in the mirror. At the end of the day, I had to start to I had to get to a place to where I was looking in the mirror and I was proud of what I was looking at, and I was okay with checking myself. I was okay with pointing out my flaws. I was okay with knowing what I do well and what I do wrong. And at the end of the day, there's no consequence to always improving, there's no consequence to growing. You're in the time now where people almost frown upon the world of growth, I embraced at I embraced the world of correction. So the monsters and the world of how to tame them came from me understanding the different levels of monsters that have presented themselves to me over the years, and me getting them to a point to where I put them in a place where I can control them. They're still there. They can rear their heads, but I can say sit down, that's not necessary, that's not needed, And I can tell when one is trying to take me back to a place of old. But at the age forty three, it's exciting to know that I've grown from so much and you know, the world of want is significantly different than what it once was.

It's really interesting. You use the analogy of like looking in the mirror and being okay with yourself, And when you said that, I was thinking, Yeah, when you look in the mirror, there's no trophies. The reflection doesn't show the trophies, the wins, the money, that, whatever else. It just shows you you and the fact that you've had the courage to look at that. Where do you think when you track back. I've always been fascinated by memories that we hold from our childhood that have left an imprint that's really strong in our lives, whether it be positive, challenging, whatever it may be. What's a difficult memory from childhood? Do you think that has been the catalyst for so many things in your life? Is there anything that you go back to that you're like, I can see how that and I to turn that into a positive.

It's really interesting. You use the analogy of like looking in the mirror and being okay with yourself, And when you said that, I was thinking, Yeah, when you look in the mirror, there's no trophies. The reflection doesn't show the trophies, the wins, the money, that, whatever else. It just shows you you and the fact that you've had the courage to look at that. Where do you think when you track back. I've always been fascinated by memories that we hold from our childhood that have left an imprint that's really strong in our lives, whether it be positive, challenging, whatever it may be. What's a difficult memory from childhood? Do you think that has been the catalyst for so many things in your life? Is there anything that you go back to that you're like, I can see how that and I to turn that into a positive.

I think the biggest memory for me is the one of being complacent. You know, as a child, I wasn't really a kid that embraced the world to challenge. Right. I was very complacent. I was okay with being a subpar to low average student. Right. I was okay with not trying. I was okay with not giving my all, and I was kind of okay with getting over. Right. So, the biggest memory that I have in my childhood is like when I got to that early teen years, at twelve, at thirteen, at fourteen, being sneaky and thinking that you're constantly one uping someone was the That's what I was embracing at the highest level. Do your homework, I did it? Did you really do your homework? I did it, and you taking my word for it and not checking my homework. Oh, I didn't do it, but you think I did. I got over ultimately year. You're slowly cheating yourself over the course of years, and it's not until you get a reality check as to why that work was necessary, as you realize you're just not doing what you're supposed to do with your life, right, You're not giving your all. I had a lot of different examples of that. I truly had a mom that made sure that I had and I didn't take advantage or embrace the real work that she put in until I got to an older age of true understanding. But to be honest, I really threw a lot of those things to the side. The extracurricular activities, the swim teams, the football teams, the basketball teams, the track and field, the baseball, all of these things. As a kid, you don't understand your parents are doing to try to provide you with the world of opportunity. They're trying to keep you occupied. They're trying to embrace this idea of hard work, effort, activity, engage. They're doing all these things or all of these things to their kids, or hopefully right for their kids, to put their kids in a position to just want right, want the best, compete, study, learn, be excited about their future. That light bulb went off late. Thankfully, when it went off, it went off at the right time, and I was able to identify a lot of stuff that I couldn't then. And also, thankfully that a lot of the lessons that my mom constantly embedded in me about you don't start things that you're not going to finish, You don't quit, apply your all, do this or don't do it. You're not cheating anybody but yourself. All of these things that I heard over the course of time, there was a moment when I got older it all hit at the same time. But the real memory for me now looking back is I'm glad that I do see that, that I am aware of that, because not being aware of that as the hugest loss, Thinking that I took full advantage, thinking that I really applied or tried myself, thinking that that was one hundred percent would be the real loss. So one of my best memories is knowing that at one point I was a slacker. You know, I was the guy that wanted to look like he was doing but never truly was unless it was something that I loved and embraced, and you know that was basketball. But the chances of me making that were very slow. But you know, that's to answer your question, it's a ballpark of those memories that I now look back on that I appreciate, but that also acts as the fuel for the hard work and one hundred percent that you see that I put into everything I do to that.

I think the biggest memory for me is the one of being complacent. You know, as a child, I wasn't really a kid that embraced the world to challenge. Right. I was very complacent. I was okay with being a subpar to low average student. Right. I was okay with not trying. I was okay with not giving my all, and I was kind of okay with getting over. Right. So, the biggest memory that I have in my childhood is like when I got to that early teen years, at twelve, at thirteen, at fourteen, being sneaky and thinking that you're constantly one uping someone was the That's what I was embracing at the highest level. Do your homework, I did it? Did you really do your homework? I did it, and you taking my word for it and not checking my homework. Oh, I didn't do it, but you think I did. I got over ultimately year. You're slowly cheating yourself over the course of years, and it's not until you get a reality check as to why that work was necessary, as you realize you're just not doing what you're supposed to do with your life, right, You're not giving your all. I had a lot of different examples of that. I truly had a mom that made sure that I had and I didn't take advantage or embrace the real work that she put in until I got to an older age of true understanding. But to be honest, I really threw a lot of those things to the side. The extracurricular activities, the swim teams, the football teams, the basketball teams, the track and field, the baseball, all of these things. As a kid, you don't understand your parents are doing to try to provide you with the world of opportunity. They're trying to keep you occupied. They're trying to embrace this idea of hard work, effort, activity, engage. They're doing all these things or all of these things to their kids, or hopefully right for their kids, to put their kids in a position to just want right, want the best, compete, study, learn, be excited about their future. That light bulb went off late. Thankfully, when it went off, it went off at the right time, and I was able to identify a lot of stuff that I couldn't then. And also, thankfully that a lot of the lessons that my mom constantly embedded in me about you don't start things that you're not going to finish, You don't quit, apply your all, do this or don't do it. You're not cheating anybody but yourself. All of these things that I heard over the course of time, there was a moment when I got older it all hit at the same time. But the real memory for me now looking back is I'm glad that I do see that, that I am aware of that, because not being aware of that as the hugest loss, Thinking that I took full advantage, thinking that I really applied or tried myself, thinking that that was one hundred percent would be the real loss. So one of my best memories is knowing that at one point I was a slacker. You know, I was the guy that wanted to look like he was doing but never truly was unless it was something that I loved and embraced, and you know that was basketball. But the chances of me making that were very slow. But you know, that's to answer your question, it's a ballpark of those memories that I now look back on that I appreciate, but that also acts as the fuel for the hard work and one hundred percent that you see that I put into everything I do to that.

Yeah, that's such a great reframe around what you saw as a bigger loss. I think that's so powerful for you to sit here and say, actually, I'm really happy that I can see that I wasn't putting my best foot forward, because that helps me be grateful to my mom. It helps me understand it from a different perspective. And the one thing that came to mind for me when I'm listening to you say that is there's this quote that says, the day you realize your parents were right, your kids are telling you that you're wrong.

Yeah, that's such a great reframe around what you saw as a bigger loss. I think that's so powerful for you to sit here and say, actually, I'm really happy that I can see that I wasn't putting my best foot forward, because that helps me be grateful to my mom. It helps me understand it from a different perspective. And the one thing that came to mind for me when I'm listening to you say that is there's this quote that says, the day you realize your parents were right, your kids are telling you that you're wrong.

Wow.

Wow.

And that's always been one of those statements that I think about that in my own self, I thought my parents were wrong my entire teenage life, and I think most teenagers do. And then all of a sudden, I hit my mid twenties and I'm like, oh, wait a minute. My mom's been through a lot. You know, my parents put in a lot of sacrifice, and so I love that you brought that up. I mean, one of the reasons we pushed this showback was you lost your father recently. And when I heard the news, obviously you know my love and condolences to your family, and I was I was looking at what you were sharing and commenting about, and there was this one thing that you said that that really stuck with me, and you said that my kids actually think I'm the coolest dad on the planet. I know why I am the way I am. My dad has a lot to do with that. The mistakes that my dad made, you know, the decisions to do drugs, being in and out of jail, in and out of your lives. I saw firsthand what not being present did. Because of that, I now know what being present means. I know what I can do, I know what effect it can have her in your child coming up. But it sounded like, obviously when you lost your father recently, it sounds like you've you'd reconcile, like you'd built somewhat of a connection.

And that's always been one of those statements that I think about that in my own self, I thought my parents were wrong my entire teenage life, and I think most teenagers do. And then all of a sudden, I hit my mid twenties and I'm like, oh, wait a minute. My mom's been through a lot. You know, my parents put in a lot of sacrifice, and so I love that you brought that up. I mean, one of the reasons we pushed this showback was you lost your father recently. And when I heard the news, obviously you know my love and condolences to your family, and I was I was looking at what you were sharing and commenting about, and there was this one thing that you said that that really stuck with me, and you said that my kids actually think I'm the coolest dad on the planet. I know why I am the way I am. My dad has a lot to do with that. The mistakes that my dad made, you know, the decisions to do drugs, being in and out of jail, in and out of your lives. I saw firsthand what not being present did. Because of that, I now know what being present means. I know what I can do, I know what effect it can have her in your child coming up. But it sounded like, obviously when you lost your father recently, it sounds like you've you'd reconcile, like you'd built somewhat of a connection.

You know, me and my dad, we we weren't the closest, but we weren't not close my dad at the end of the day, I'm gonna love my dad simply being my dad. Now my dad's life, you know, I had several different versions of drastic downs. Right, a small amount of ups, but a lot of downs. I can easily sit here and ridicule to judge my dad for the mistakes that he made or for his past, but that does nothing. I don't I don't like to focus on problem. My focus on solution. Yes, So with me and my dad. In our relationship, it was always one of solution, like you can't go back and fix the years that you weren't present. There's there is nothing that we can do about that time. We can have a conversation about it, you can talk about it, and then me and my dad talking. My biggest thing was you don't have to focus on what you can't change the fact that you're here now and that you made a decision to get clean to turn your life around. It's never too late. My dad was, you know, fifty plus at the time when he said, I'm gonna go ahead and figure it out, and i'ma I'm gonna close that door and I'm gonna work on this other door. This door over here was like I said, jail, drugs in and out of his kid's life. Uh, to the point where you know, there was a there's a time where we didn't know where my dad was and I bumped into my dad on the train. I tell a story. I bumped into my dad on a public transportation in Philadelphia, Like not seeing him in years, I randomly saw my dad and my dad was so embarrassed he got on the train and rant. But it's like that's that's where that world and that relationship was, and what I do very well. I don't hold on to grudges or gripes. It takes too much time, it takes too much energy. Things will work themselves out. They never not have it always work itself out. I mean, my dad worked it out right, like it's about the grandkids. And our relationship got better as he embraced the opportunity to be a great grandpa and seeing him try to do that right was his way of saying, I wish I could have done this right for you. I can't like I know what you're saying without saying it. Sometimes you don't need words, although some people do need them. Sometimes your actions are a little better. And my dad's actions and trying his best to be an unbelievable grandfather made our father son relationship that much better. And you know, there was a lot of conflict between my brother and my dad and seeing that men over the time and just saying, look, I'm not supposed to be here, dad, look at what your son has done. Look at where I am being that I can I want to make sure that you get to see some dope things in life. Here. Let's do this and take that and live like this and do so things work themselves out. His reward for giving his energy to something positive and life changing was his son becoming successful and his son saying, Dad, huh, it's not expected. That wasn't the plan. You got a great piece of light at the end of that dark tunnel that you didn't expect. That I didn't expect because I didn't expect to be here. So everything kind of it works itself out, and you know, and losing my dad is when you look back and you go, yo, he was all right right, like mind for reflection, my conversation, my words when I speak on behalf of my father so positive and dope because he did good. I'm all right. I came out okay, Mom, Dad, he did good. Like how whatever whatever you did to to put whatever recipe in this pot, the food came out all right. I'm a good person. I got a good heart. I treat people with respect. Ultimately, I want the most that I can possibly get out of life. I love to love. I'm a good dude. Am I perfect? No? I got some of them imperfections over there. I got some of the ones from over here for my man, Dad. Okay, that's life. Of course I'm gonna figure it out, but I figure it out without the want or need for problem.

You know, me and my dad, we we weren't the closest, but we weren't not close my dad at the end of the day, I'm gonna love my dad simply being my dad. Now my dad's life, you know, I had several different versions of drastic downs. Right, a small amount of ups, but a lot of downs. I can easily sit here and ridicule to judge my dad for the mistakes that he made or for his past, but that does nothing. I don't I don't like to focus on problem. My focus on solution. Yes, So with me and my dad. In our relationship, it was always one of solution, like you can't go back and fix the years that you weren't present. There's there is nothing that we can do about that time. We can have a conversation about it, you can talk about it, and then me and my dad talking. My biggest thing was you don't have to focus on what you can't change the fact that you're here now and that you made a decision to get clean to turn your life around. It's never too late. My dad was, you know, fifty plus at the time when he said, I'm gonna go ahead and figure it out, and i'ma I'm gonna close that door and I'm gonna work on this other door. This door over here was like I said, jail, drugs in and out of his kid's life. Uh, to the point where you know, there was a there's a time where we didn't know where my dad was and I bumped into my dad on the train. I tell a story. I bumped into my dad on a public transportation in Philadelphia, Like not seeing him in years, I randomly saw my dad and my dad was so embarrassed he got on the train and rant. But it's like that's that's where that world and that relationship was, and what I do very well. I don't hold on to grudges or gripes. It takes too much time, it takes too much energy. Things will work themselves out. They never not have it always work itself out. I mean, my dad worked it out right, like it's about the grandkids. And our relationship got better as he embraced the opportunity to be a great grandpa and seeing him try to do that right was his way of saying, I wish I could have done this right for you. I can't like I know what you're saying without saying it. Sometimes you don't need words, although some people do need them. Sometimes your actions are a little better. And my dad's actions and trying his best to be an unbelievable grandfather made our father son relationship that much better. And you know, there was a lot of conflict between my brother and my dad and seeing that men over the time and just saying, look, I'm not supposed to be here, dad, look at what your son has done. Look at where I am being that I can I want to make sure that you get to see some dope things in life. Here. Let's do this and take that and live like this and do so things work themselves out. His reward for giving his energy to something positive and life changing was his son becoming successful and his son saying, Dad, huh, it's not expected. That wasn't the plan. You got a great piece of light at the end of that dark tunnel that you didn't expect. That I didn't expect because I didn't expect to be here. So everything kind of it works itself out, and you know, and losing my dad is when you look back and you go, yo, he was all right right, like mind for reflection, my conversation, my words when I speak on behalf of my father so positive and dope because he did good. I'm all right. I came out okay, Mom, Dad, he did good. Like how whatever whatever you did to to put whatever recipe in this pot, the food came out all right. I'm a good person. I got a good heart. I treat people with respect. Ultimately, I want the most that I can possibly get out of life. I love to love. I'm a good dude. Am I perfect? No? I got some of them imperfections over there. I got some of the ones from over here for my man, Dad. Okay, that's life. Of course I'm gonna figure it out, but I figure it out without the want or need for problem.

That's real, man. I mean listening to you said that, what I appreciate so much is about how you're changing on perspective again that often we feel to heal what was broken needs to be fixed. And actually what you've just said is seeing him try with the grind kids. That's not even the area that needed fixing or was broken, but seeing that starts to create some healing.

That's real, man. I mean listening to you said that, what I appreciate so much is about how you're changing on perspective again that often we feel to heal what was broken needs to be fixed. And actually what you've just said is seeing him try with the grind kids. That's not even the area that needed fixing or was broken, but seeing that starts to create some healing.

That's the best example that I can ask for. Yeah, because it's not about it's not about us, right Like me and my ex wife got to a point of realization, you know, after having a significant amount of ups and downs, you know, after our the voice, we got to a point where you realize it's not about us. Like we did it. We had our opportunity and we're now adults. How we choose to live as adults, Well that's a choice that we make. But we're trying to make the best choices so that they have a better life. So it's about them. When I see somebody making the efforts to make life for them better, well then we're on the same page.

That's the best example that I can ask for. Yeah, because it's not about it's not about us, right Like me and my ex wife got to a point of realization, you know, after having a significant amount of ups and downs, you know, after our the voice, we got to a point where you realize it's not about us. Like we did it. We had our opportunity and we're now adults. How we choose to live as adults, Well that's a choice that we make. But we're trying to make the best choices so that they have a better life. So it's about them. When I see somebody making the efforts to make life for them better, well then we're on the same page.

Have the same vision.

Have the same vision.

We have the same vision. It's not it's not about us at this point. It's not about us as a generation. At this point, it's about us trying our best to do things to create change, to move ground, shift the gear so that they have a much better opportunity than what we did. That's that's the world of the buttime being passed correctly. And if you understand that you have that mindset, you approach your day to day differently. And I do. I do have that mindset, and it's one thing that I'm very thankful for. And through the things that should be problems or were supposed to be problems, I've never held on to them long enough. And by the way, just bringing it back for a circle, that's a monster, that grudge monster. That's a monster that I'm gonna get you you back. I'm on wait, you just watch. I'm gonna hold on net and I'm gonna prove to you. I'm gonna show you or I'm not talking to nobody over here. That's a monster. So you can feel that monster or that monster doesn't have to have an existence in me.

We have the same vision. It's not it's not about us at this point. It's not about us as a generation. At this point, it's about us trying our best to do things to create change, to move ground, shift the gear so that they have a much better opportunity than what we did. That's that's the world of the buttime being passed correctly. And if you understand that you have that mindset, you approach your day to day differently. And I do. I do have that mindset, and it's one thing that I'm very thankful for. And through the things that should be problems or were supposed to be problems, I've never held on to them long enough. And by the way, just bringing it back for a circle, that's a monster, that grudge monster. That's a monster that I'm gonna get you you back. I'm on wait, you just watch. I'm gonna hold on net and I'm gonna prove to you. I'm gonna show you or I'm not talking to nobody over here. That's a monster. So you can feel that monster or that monster doesn't have to have an existence in me.

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Hey everyone, it's Jay Schetty and I'm thrilled to announce my podcast tour for the first time ever. You can see my on Purpose podcast live and in person. Join me in a city near you for meaningful, insightful conversations with surprise guests. It could be a celebrity, top wellness expert, or a CEO or business leader. We'll dive into experiences designed to inspire growth, spark learning, and build real connections. I can't wait to see you there. Tickets are on cell now, Head to jayshetty dot me and get yours today. This year, create positive habits that make you feel good and feel productive like learning with Wondrium. Wondrium is an educational platform with content covering almost any topic you can imagine. With Wondrium, you get unlimited access to thousands of hours of trustworthy audio and video courses, documentaries, tutorials, and more. With programs about everything from history to science to baking, there's something for everyone. The Wondrium app allows you to take your love of learning to the next level. Get inspired anytime, anywhere, learning from top experts and university professors with ad free curated content without any pressure of homework or exams. Right now, I'm diving into the program, finding strength in mental health. It's so powerful and inspiring to hear successful individuals share how they fought their own battles with mental illness and how these experiences made them stronger. My personal favorite is Mary Lambert's episode about how she found an escape through songwriting and poetry. It's truly moving to hear about the healing power art can bring to us. Think of how much you can learn this year with a subscription to Wondrium. To bring in twenty twenty three. Wondrium is offering my listeners a twenty three day free trial, but it's only available if you sign up through my special URL. Go to wondrium dot com forward slash j. That's wnd rium dot com forward slash j wondrium dot com forward slash j. This episode is sponsored by Betterhelp. When you're at your best, you can do great things, but sometimes life gets you bogged down and you may feel overwhelmed or like you're not showing up the way that you want to. Working with a therapist can help you get closer to the best version of yourself, and when you feel empowered, you're more prepared to take on everything life throws at you. Some things that help me show up as my best self is having a daily mindfulness practice. For me, it's meditation, some form of journaling. I like setting intentions for the day. But sometimes when life gets tot and it's good to have a professional you can speak to that's there to help without any judgment. If you're thinking of giving therapy a try, Better Help is a great option. It's convenient, flexible, affordable, and entirely online. Just fill out a brief questionnaire to get matched with a licensed therapist and switch therapists anytime for no additional charge. Therapy can be a great way to empower yourself, to start selling healthy boundaries, to heal the past that may still be holding you back consciously or subconsciously, or to even just learn better mindsets to cope with life's everyday struggles. If you want to live a more empowered life, therapy can get you there. To see my top three reasons why you should try online therapy, visit betterhelp dot com, forward slash Jay's top three that's better HLP dot com forward slash Jay's top three and get ten percent of your first month of online therapy when you sign up. It's really really interesting hearing that perspective again because one of my favorite lessons that I've learned is that often the thing that's holding you back is something you're holding onto.

Yes, it's one of my.

Yes, it's one of my.

Favorite lessons, the idea that something that's holding you back is you're holding onto it. So, whether it's a grudge like you're saying the grudge Monster, or a feeling or an emotion or an idea, that you're not allowing it to let go when it no longer serves you, and being able to walk away from that requires real strength and courage. But one of the things that you said about you and your partner your ex wife that I think is really powerful is that when it's just about us, whoever that may be, you're either looking at each other or you're looking past each other. And what you just said is now we're looking in the same direction when it's the kids. And so that switch. If you think about any relationship in our life, when we think it's just about us, when it's not about anyone else, you're always going to be against each other. But as soon as there's a higher purpose, or there's a commitment, or there's a value that's super and understanding and understanding and understanding that comes with the world of communication and great dialogue. I can you know, and having this conversation, I can point to so many examples of how it's so hard to see the good if.

Favorite lessons, the idea that something that's holding you back is you're holding onto it. So, whether it's a grudge like you're saying the grudge Monster, or a feeling or an emotion or an idea, that you're not allowing it to let go when it no longer serves you, and being able to walk away from that requires real strength and courage. But one of the things that you said about you and your partner your ex wife that I think is really powerful is that when it's just about us, whoever that may be, you're either looking at each other or you're looking past each other. And what you just said is now we're looking in the same direction when it's the kids. And so that switch. If you think about any relationship in our life, when we think it's just about us, when it's not about anyone else, you're always going to be against each other. But as soon as there's a higher purpose, or there's a commitment, or there's a value that's super and understanding and understanding and understanding that comes with the world of communication and great dialogue. I can you know, and having this conversation, I can point to so many examples of how it's so hard to see the good if.

You're only seeing the bad. Like there's so many people that struggle with their version of successes because they're looking at someone else's. There's so many people that struggle with their world of relationship because they're judging theirs based off of someone else's right. And when you're constantly in the space of not realizing or noticing your world, your reality because you're living in what appears to be someone else's, well, your shit is never gonna be right. It's never gonna be right.

You're only seeing the bad. Like there's so many people that struggle with their version of successes because they're looking at someone else's. There's so many people that struggle with their world of relationship because they're judging theirs based off of someone else's right. And when you're constantly in the space of not realizing or noticing your world, your reality because you're living in what appears to be someone else's, well, your shit is never gonna be right. It's never gonna be right.

Right.

Right.

Like if I'm looking at everybody's relationship with their father and I'm going I want that, Yeah, well, I'm not embracing the world of good that came from my dad. I could have went down the road that my dad did. I could have easily been wrapped into the same world of you know, drugs, gangs, violence, stick up boys, right, like the embracing the hood at the highest level. Not that I don't, because I do, that's where I'm from, but I could I could have embraced it at a much higher level and followed in the footsteps of my father because that's what he did. But I was able to realize the mistakes he made. I was able to go I don't want to go down that street because I see the consequences of it. That's a choice that I made, right. Some don't make that choice, by the way, no disrespect that those that haven't. It's to each his own. You do what you want based off of who you've seen or what you want to be true to live your life. Ultimately, we get one live it for you. Live it to the best, to the best space and place that you feel you can win at. That's my motto. I'm not here to tell you right for wrong. I'm saying identify things differently, and I make decisions based off of examples that I can look at as not bad, but ones that if I didn't have, I could have made that mistake. So without a lesson, that was intentional. My dad's given me lessons, right, it's not intentional. My dad never said I went to jail so you didn't have to. He never said that. But hey, man, seeing you in jail, Dad, that just made me realize I don't want to go there, hearing how you talk about it, hearing how many times you went, But I don't want to go there. Seeing what drugs did to you and you talking and telling the stories what you lost, what you had, Well, I don't want to do that. Okay, you know, I'm going to embrace my father. I'm going to embrace this imperfect human being because I'd be damned if he's not, if he's not positioning me for personal success in just understanding what I should and shouldn't do. And it seems so logical, it seems like common sense. Sometimes it's not that easy. For some it's not that easy.

Like if I'm looking at everybody's relationship with their father and I'm going I want that, Yeah, well, I'm not embracing the world of good that came from my dad. I could have went down the road that my dad did. I could have easily been wrapped into the same world of you know, drugs, gangs, violence, stick up boys, right, like the embracing the hood at the highest level. Not that I don't, because I do, that's where I'm from, but I could I could have embraced it at a much higher level and followed in the footsteps of my father because that's what he did. But I was able to realize the mistakes he made. I was able to go I don't want to go down that street because I see the consequences of it. That's a choice that I made, right. Some don't make that choice, by the way, no disrespect that those that haven't. It's to each his own. You do what you want based off of who you've seen or what you want to be true to live your life. Ultimately, we get one live it for you. Live it to the best, to the best space and place that you feel you can win at. That's my motto. I'm not here to tell you right for wrong. I'm saying identify things differently, and I make decisions based off of examples that I can look at as not bad, but ones that if I didn't have, I could have made that mistake. So without a lesson, that was intentional. My dad's given me lessons, right, it's not intentional. My dad never said I went to jail so you didn't have to. He never said that. But hey, man, seeing you in jail, Dad, that just made me realize I don't want to go there, hearing how you talk about it, hearing how many times you went, But I don't want to go there. Seeing what drugs did to you and you talking and telling the stories what you lost, what you had, Well, I don't want to do that. Okay, you know, I'm going to embrace my father. I'm going to embrace this imperfect human being because I'd be damned if he's not, if he's not positioning me for personal success in just understanding what I should and shouldn't do. And it seems so logical, it seems like common sense. Sometimes it's not that easy. For some it's not that easy.

Yeah, And sometimes what I'm hearing is sometimes the greatest wisdom is unsaid and unintentional, right, Like, sometimes the greatest wisdom is not what someone said to you. And sometimes the greatest wisdom is knowing what not to do. I think we think of it as like knowledge or learning means someone's telling me what to do, and they told me the right thing. Sometimes it's looking and saying, well, I know what not to do now and what I'm fascinated doing. And I think You're going to give people a lot of hope listening to you today, because when you say that you are complacent growing up, and I consider you today to probably be one of the hardest working people in entertainment from what I see and observe, and when I've watched your interviews or listen to you, you work super hard. You give it, you're all, You're invested from a mission purpose point of view. But hey, wait a minute, this person says I was complacent growing up, and it's never one moment, it's never one thing. So I don't even want to simplify it with that kind of a question. And what are the shifts that needed to take place in order for you to go from being complacent to being one of the hardest working people who's committed to something.

Yeah, And sometimes what I'm hearing is sometimes the greatest wisdom is unsaid and unintentional, right, Like, sometimes the greatest wisdom is not what someone said to you. And sometimes the greatest wisdom is knowing what not to do. I think we think of it as like knowledge or learning means someone's telling me what to do, and they told me the right thing. Sometimes it's looking and saying, well, I know what not to do now and what I'm fascinated doing. And I think You're going to give people a lot of hope listening to you today, because when you say that you are complacent growing up, and I consider you today to probably be one of the hardest working people in entertainment from what I see and observe, and when I've watched your interviews or listen to you, you work super hard. You give it, you're all, You're invested from a mission purpose point of view. But hey, wait a minute, this person says I was complacent growing up, and it's never one moment, it's never one thing. So I don't even want to simplify it with that kind of a question. And what are the shifts that needed to take place in order for you to go from being complacent to being one of the hardest working people who's committed to something.

I'm big on, just like logic, right? And there's this there's this like moment that I had where I just kept saying why not? Like why right? And Russell Westbrook is a good friend of mine. I tease him all the time because the one saying that he has that I wish I would have had or I wish I got to first, is why not? Right? And it's so genius. It's so genius. It's so simple, but yet so profound. You don't just have to have one job and working any job, and whether their job is a nine to five or whether it's you know, half a day, full day, whatever it is. You don't just have to do one thing. You can do a lot of different things. But there's this weird this is mindset that a lot of people have that you can only do one thing. And when I realized, I don't have to just do one thing. I can do a lot of different things. You can be good at a lot of different things. But you don't know that you're good at a lot of different things unless you try a lot of different things. And when I looked around and I kind of just realized how the world goes around. It's all based off of creativity. It's all based off of ideas. It's all based off of thought provoking then groundbreaking opportunities. But the simplest things have come from an idea, from your chair to your table, to your wheel, to your light bulb, to your car, to your plane, to your helicopter, to the idea of a hotel, from hotels going to a place, of people renting out houses and being bes to taxis to then people driving their own cars, and these all ideas and the groundbreaking thought that I had and realizing all these ideas is that these ideas have the potential to touch the sky if a person believes that they can. If a person believes that they can, well, your world of idea changes your reason for getting up, your reason for putting your feet on the ground every morning. It can change if you believe that the purpose that you now have and that you're working towards based off of an idea, it's something that you can succeed in. I grasped that understanding and I attached it to everything that I tried to do. I did not set out to be the actor, the director, the writer, the producer, the CEO, the chair men, the advice. I did not set out to do anything. And I'm gonna make it very clear, I don't have the educational background for any of these things. What I had was an idea to try, and after you get an idea to try, what I had was the patience to sit and listen, be a sponge, learn figure it out and figuring it out. There was another side of not being okay with the incomplete version of figuring out the thing that I didn't do well. Why did I go ask all these questions, but I'm not gonna try it. Now that I know how, all right, let me try it. The only consequence is failure. By the way, not trying is failing. I wanna make that very clear. Not trying is failing. There's a lot of things that people can't do simply because you've never tried to do it. And I'm not saying that you should try everything. I'm not saying that you're supposed to do everything. I'm saying that for me, when someone says something and I go, now, I never did that, I have to have a reason for why I've never done it and a justification. If you ask me something, I go no, and you just say why, and I go, that's not good enough for me. I like to have a reason why. And that's that's the foundation that I stand on. That's how I built this mindset, this this level of energy to go ahead, rhyme and reason within my why why not? It's the Russ again. I love you to death, my brother. It's the one that got away from me. And you're a genius for saying it because it's so simple but yet so profound. So everything that I'm doing that I'm attempting to do it is because I started so much and I'm just trying to finish it. Yeah, And I like the fact that I'm forty three and I still got energy behind what it is that I'm trying to do.

I'm big on, just like logic, right? And there's this there's this like moment that I had where I just kept saying why not? Like why right? And Russell Westbrook is a good friend of mine. I tease him all the time because the one saying that he has that I wish I would have had or I wish I got to first, is why not? Right? And it's so genius. It's so genius. It's so simple, but yet so profound. You don't just have to have one job and working any job, and whether their job is a nine to five or whether it's you know, half a day, full day, whatever it is. You don't just have to do one thing. You can do a lot of different things. But there's this weird this is mindset that a lot of people have that you can only do one thing. And when I realized, I don't have to just do one thing. I can do a lot of different things. You can be good at a lot of different things. But you don't know that you're good at a lot of different things unless you try a lot of different things. And when I looked around and I kind of just realized how the world goes around. It's all based off of creativity. It's all based off of ideas. It's all based off of thought provoking then groundbreaking opportunities. But the simplest things have come from an idea, from your chair to your table, to your wheel, to your light bulb, to your car, to your plane, to your helicopter, to the idea of a hotel, from hotels going to a place, of people renting out houses and being bes to taxis to then people driving their own cars, and these all ideas and the groundbreaking thought that I had and realizing all these ideas is that these ideas have the potential to touch the sky if a person believes that they can. If a person believes that they can, well, your world of idea changes your reason for getting up, your reason for putting your feet on the ground every morning. It can change if you believe that the purpose that you now have and that you're working towards based off of an idea, it's something that you can succeed in. I grasped that understanding and I attached it to everything that I tried to do. I did not set out to be the actor, the director, the writer, the producer, the CEO, the chair men, the advice. I did not set out to do anything. And I'm gonna make it very clear, I don't have the educational background for any of these things. What I had was an idea to try, and after you get an idea to try, what I had was the patience to sit and listen, be a sponge, learn figure it out and figuring it out. There was another side of not being okay with the incomplete version of figuring out the thing that I didn't do well. Why did I go ask all these questions, but I'm not gonna try it. Now that I know how, all right, let me try it. The only consequence is failure. By the way, not trying is failing. I wanna make that very clear. Not trying is failing. There's a lot of things that people can't do simply because you've never tried to do it. And I'm not saying that you should try everything. I'm not saying that you're supposed to do everything. I'm saying that for me, when someone says something and I go, now, I never did that, I have to have a reason for why I've never done it and a justification. If you ask me something, I go no, and you just say why, and I go, that's not good enough for me. I like to have a reason why. And that's that's the foundation that I stand on. That's how I built this mindset, this this level of energy to go ahead, rhyme and reason within my why why not? It's the Russ again. I love you to death, my brother. It's the one that got away from me. And you're a genius for saying it because it's so simple but yet so profound. So everything that I'm doing that I'm attempting to do it is because I started so much and I'm just trying to finish it. Yeah, And I like the fact that I'm forty three and I still got energy behind what it is that I'm trying to do.

Yeah, it sounds like it's like where you're going is not as important as who you're growing into. For that direction, like the person that you're evolving into, the things you have to learn, the things you have to be surrounded by. And I think that's the part that I get excited about. It's like, yeah, like you said, whether you get there or whatever there is or not, And it's not just the journey and the destination because I think that's the old cliche. But what I'm really hearing from you is the person you grow into, the people you surround yourself by in order to reach this big goal that is so fulfilling, and that pursuit is worthy, right. The pursuit is the happiness.

Yeah, it sounds like it's like where you're going is not as important as who you're growing into. For that direction, like the person that you're evolving into, the things you have to learn, the things you have to be surrounded by. And I think that's the part that I get excited about. It's like, yeah, like you said, whether you get there or whatever there is or not, And it's not just the journey and the destination because I think that's the old cliche. But what I'm really hearing from you is the person you grow into, the people you surround yourself by in order to reach this big goal that is so fulfilling, and that pursuit is worthy, right. The pursuit is the happiness.

It's everything. Jeff said this before, and you'll hear so many people say it that come from where I've come from the bottom, or what's considered to be the bottom. We are not stereotypically supposed to be in the rooms that we're in. And when we say that, there's a level of comfort. Right We're not supposed to be in these rooms. And it's kind of cliche when you say it. When you start getting these rooms, you know, oh wow, why are we not supposed.

It's everything. Jeff said this before, and you'll hear so many people say it that come from where I've come from the bottom, or what's considered to be the bottom. We are not stereotypically supposed to be in the rooms that we're in. And when we say that, there's a level of comfort. Right We're not supposed to be in these rooms. And it's kind of cliche when you say it. When you start getting these rooms, you know, oh wow, why are we not supposed.

To be the rooms?

To be the rooms?

Right? Like, it's so amazing when you get to the other side, you see the other side and you look back and you just look at what you've grown from the conversations that I'm able to have, the knowledge that I'm able to speak with and the understanding I understand, not because I'm a trained machine and I spent all of this time prepping for and you know, this is this is what the idea of education was all based off of. No, the idea of discovery enhanced the muscle that made me want for so much more information in the space of life that I chose to love so on entertainment and business. The level of failures that I have had that I'm still having in some regard the world of fixing, cleaning up, making better, understanding, growing relationships, building. There is nothing more intriguing than me than being able to turn around and look at Kevin at the age twenty two and then looking at Kevin at the age forty three, This was not the plan? What are you talking? Every day is a new day, and every day I found another thing to be excited about. Every day I found another goal that I decided to attach to my tree. And that tree got so many branches on it right now. And so many people say, you're doing so much, or why do you do so much? How do you do so much? What is the what's the end game? What's the goal? The game is being in the game, right like it's it's being in the game the foundation that I'm trying my best to create. I hope and pray that these four kids that I have, that they look at it, that they see that they understand. We just got a shot at something different. We gotta shot at generational wealth. We got a shot at changing the quote unquote trajectory within our culture of opportunity. We got a shot to make this normal. Once again, I'm looking past me, I'm looking at I'm looking at the bigger piece to the plan. My kids got a bigger shot at breaking ground and making this normal because other kids that look like us, that came from where we come from, and that grew up how I grew up, will now have a different level of association for what can be achieved. If it's based off of what I was able to do, I'm igniting a different level of thought, a different level of what, a different level of motivation and inspiration. I'm inspiring at a different level. Absolutely, when I get there and at the last second I miss it and I fall, I got there. I got there, And all that does is show them that they can get there. They're not gonna miss.

Right? Like, it's so amazing when you get to the other side, you see the other side and you look back and you just look at what you've grown from the conversations that I'm able to have, the knowledge that I'm able to speak with and the understanding I understand, not because I'm a trained machine and I spent all of this time prepping for and you know, this is this is what the idea of education was all based off of. No, the idea of discovery enhanced the muscle that made me want for so much more information in the space of life that I chose to love so on entertainment and business. The level of failures that I have had that I'm still having in some regard the world of fixing, cleaning up, making better, understanding, growing relationships, building. There is nothing more intriguing than me than being able to turn around and look at Kevin at the age twenty two and then looking at Kevin at the age forty three, This was not the plan? What are you talking? Every day is a new day, and every day I found another thing to be excited about. Every day I found another goal that I decided to attach to my tree. And that tree got so many branches on it right now. And so many people say, you're doing so much, or why do you do so much? How do you do so much? What is the what's the end game? What's the goal? The game is being in the game, right like it's it's being in the game the foundation that I'm trying my best to create. I hope and pray that these four kids that I have, that they look at it, that they see that they understand. We just got a shot at something different. We gotta shot at generational wealth. We got a shot at changing the quote unquote trajectory within our culture of opportunity. We got a shot to make this normal. Once again, I'm looking past me, I'm looking at I'm looking at the bigger piece to the plan. My kids got a bigger shot at breaking ground and making this normal because other kids that look like us, that came from where we come from, and that grew up how I grew up, will now have a different level of association for what can be achieved. If it's based off of what I was able to do, I'm igniting a different level of thought, a different level of what, a different level of motivation and inspiration. I'm inspiring at a different level. Absolutely, when I get there and at the last second I miss it and I fall, I got there. I got there, And all that does is show them that they can get there. They're not gonna miss.

And they can go further.

And they can go further.

They can go first. They're not gonna miss. They're equipped with too much of the weapons. I've equipped you along the way with so much, so you're prepared for all this war that's coming up here. You're not gonna miss. That might miss, that might fall, you're not. I love that, And the kids coming up from under them, they're not gonna miss. But you have to have this energy. Yeah, it's bigger than me.

They can go first. They're not gonna miss. They're equipped with too much of the weapons. I've equipped you along the way with so much, so you're prepared for all this war that's coming up here. You're not gonna miss. That might miss, that might fall, you're not. I love that, And the kids coming up from under them, they're not gonna miss. But you have to have this energy. Yeah, it's bigger than me.

What's that one mindset that you're trying to pass on to that next generation, your kids, the kids that come off to that. Because it sounds like while you were honest and saying, look, I didn't know I was going to be a right director or an entrepreneur, or CEO. I didn't have these. I didn't have the education, as you said, but it sounds like you have some. You have the mindset that's very clear, we know that. But there's some core skills here that it sounds like you've invested in very deeply and that you're trying to pass on. If you could narrow them down to one, two or three for us, what would you say are the skills that you're like, this is how I want my kids to be able to operate in this world, and that's what they need.

What's that one mindset that you're trying to pass on to that next generation, your kids, the kids that come off to that. Because it sounds like while you were honest and saying, look, I didn't know I was going to be a right director or an entrepreneur, or CEO. I didn't have these. I didn't have the education, as you said, but it sounds like you have some. You have the mindset that's very clear, we know that. But there's some core skills here that it sounds like you've invested in very deeply and that you're trying to pass on. If you could narrow them down to one, two or three for us, what would you say are the skills that you're like, this is how I want my kids to be able to operate in this world, and that's what they need.

The best skill that I have developed is the skill of noticing and understanding that nothing is done by one individual. No level of success is reached by one person. Right like the there is a team effort that goes into the smallest moment of success to the life charges and the person that wants the rewards and accolades for it all and that doesn't embrace the world of team and the foundation that stands underneath whatever that thing is is a person that won't last long. The thing that I am most thankful for and the thing that I that I'm glad that it has just improved over the course of time, is the world of inclusion. With the wei, there's no I and I hope that that's what I'm passing down to my kids is that you know, nothing is given, everything is earned, and for things to be earned correctly, you know, you have to surround yourself with people that you cannot only earn with, but that will support and embrace along the way. Right, I have an amazing team. After my team grows to be the stars of tomorrow, from execs to creatives, to talent to writers, producers, directors, everybody that's underneath this umbrella of heartbeat. Of heartbeat ventures of the brands and the brand partnerships and the space of entertainment and this ecosystem with the media that we've created. We flourished because they flourish. And knowing that, identifying that and try my best to support that. That's the thing that I have had to work on. And when we talk about Monsters Jay, there was a there was an eye monster, there was a I need to do it. I'm gonna make the call. I gotta I'm a boat. I'm no everybody move, watch y'all. I'm gonna show y'all how to do it. I'm gonna take the meeting hit. We're not listening to that we're gonna do it my way. There was this heavy thing of me, I I I not the way, Kevin, get out the way and let other people be great. They're only going to make this thing greater. You're prohibiting that by trying to stand in a moment of great so that people can look and point at you. Let other people do the thing that they were brought here to do, and while they do it, align yourself with them, embrace them, support them, and as they grow, we grow. That's the thing that I flourish in the most, which is why the first thing that I asked you think about it. The first thing that I asked you when we're here was setting up. I said, how long have you guys been together? That's just me asking because I want to see what the world of your team is. And when you say what you say, well, there's no coincidence that the level of success comes with relationships that's evolved from day to said date. It comes with an understanding that comes with a level of community. More importantly, a want for successful We have it together because we're embracing the world, not just one.

The best skill that I have developed is the skill of noticing and understanding that nothing is done by one individual. No level of success is reached by one person. Right like the there is a team effort that goes into the smallest moment of success to the life charges and the person that wants the rewards and accolades for it all and that doesn't embrace the world of team and the foundation that stands underneath whatever that thing is is a person that won't last long. The thing that I am most thankful for and the thing that I that I'm glad that it has just improved over the course of time, is the world of inclusion. With the wei, there's no I and I hope that that's what I'm passing down to my kids is that you know, nothing is given, everything is earned, and for things to be earned correctly, you know, you have to surround yourself with people that you cannot only earn with, but that will support and embrace along the way. Right, I have an amazing team. After my team grows to be the stars of tomorrow, from execs to creatives, to talent to writers, producers, directors, everybody that's underneath this umbrella of heartbeat. Of heartbeat ventures of the brands and the brand partnerships and the space of entertainment and this ecosystem with the media that we've created. We flourished because they flourish. And knowing that, identifying that and try my best to support that. That's the thing that I have had to work on. And when we talk about Monsters Jay, there was a there was an eye monster, there was a I need to do it. I'm gonna make the call. I gotta I'm a boat. I'm no everybody move, watch y'all. I'm gonna show y'all how to do it. I'm gonna take the meeting hit. We're not listening to that we're gonna do it my way. There was this heavy thing of me, I I I not the way, Kevin, get out the way and let other people be great. They're only going to make this thing greater. You're prohibiting that by trying to stand in a moment of great so that people can look and point at you. Let other people do the thing that they were brought here to do, and while they do it, align yourself with them, embrace them, support them, and as they grow, we grow. That's the thing that I flourish in the most, which is why the first thing that I asked you think about it. The first thing that I asked you when we're here was setting up. I said, how long have you guys been together? That's just me asking because I want to see what the world of your team is. And when you say what you say, well, there's no coincidence that the level of success comes with relationships that's evolved from day to said date. It comes with an understanding that comes with a level of community. More importantly, a want for successful We have it together because we're embracing the world, not just one.

I love that you went there, man, like that there could have been so many ways to answer that question, and the fact that you brought it back to being bigger than you. I mean that mindset, I mean that mindset is everything, but it's so easily missed because we grow up in a doggy dog society. We grow up in a U versus me. I feel like when I speak to people in the entertainment industry as well, for years, especially if you were a minority or a person of color, you were put against the only other person of color, and so it's like they can be only one person of color comedian, they can only be one person of color actor, right Like it's all divided.

I love that you went there, man, like that there could have been so many ways to answer that question, and the fact that you brought it back to being bigger than you. I mean that mindset, I mean that mindset is everything, but it's so easily missed because we grow up in a doggy dog society. We grow up in a U versus me. I feel like when I speak to people in the entertainment industry as well, for years, especially if you were a minority or a person of color, you were put against the only other person of color, and so it's like they can be only one person of color comedian, they can only be one person of color actor, right Like it's all divided.

And so talked about this. It's you know, Dave, Chris, myself, we're very close.

And so talked about this. It's you know, Dave, Chris, myself, we're very close.

Yeah, and I love seeing that. That makes me happy.

Yeah, and I love seeing that. That makes me happy.

The reason why we're so close is because you know, there is no competition. We're not We're not competing with one another. And you know, we all have different level of success. That makes sense for us, right Like one success has nothing to do with the other. And the support, the love that we give each other that we embrace each other with, it's all done with the understanding that we can all exist at the same time. And the conversation of there can only be one is one that we've created as a culture. Like you know, we really do pit our own against our own right. We really have done it throughout the time. And by the way, there's nothing wrong with competition. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be the best. There's nothing wrong with that conversation. But it's a conversation that can be had and should be had without the malicious intent behind it, right because ultimately, success and success and that's what you're that's what you're in the game for, to have some type of level of success that checks the box for you. And you know, once again, if you get to looking across the street and you're looking at what the others are doing over there, or you're missing what you've done over here, and I just it's something that I think, over the course of time has developed. It didn't start off like this. I definitely was once again and being transparent. I was a young comic that was like, man, when am I gonna get my turn? I'm funny, I'm funnier than I need it. I don't understand. Oh my god, nobody wants like you do go through that, and rightfully so there's frustration in not knowing or not understanding why my opportunity hasn't or isn't. There's frustration in that, but there's also a sense of calm that comes in confidence of knowing that you're putting the work in for a reason and that it will pay off. And I had to make that change. I had to make the change of saying, I'm doing the work. Am I showing up every day? And am I prepared? And if this opportunity does come, am I ready for it? Because there's nothing worse than it comes. And I don't have a set. I don't have a tight five minutes. I don't have a tight ten. I didn't have a twenty five minute set. Oh my god. They wanted to clean material. I didn't have no clean material. There's nothing worse than not being ready.